r/bobiverse

Re listening to the book and the question randomly popped in my head

Obviously he can’t really say much…

I am just re-listening to the whole series and I’m on book 5.

We know from book 4 that the Skippies believe souls to be real, and that “the first one up gets the soul” among the replicants they tested. (With the second activated matrix showing statistical drift from the original or parent.) They even implied that Bob 1 is not the first replicant of Bob but actually IS Bob Johansen. But I digress…

Now in book 5, when Bob >!clones Teresa at the time of her passing!< we learn that cryogenics has come so far (using stasis pods) that a frozen body could be revived again if a cure for their cause of death is found (and that this has been done successfully).

So that got me thinking… what if someone died, was scanned AND their body was put into stasis, and THEN, after the replicant had been activated in virt, their body was revived? Under “first one up gets the soul” theory, the replicant would be the original, and whoever wakes up in the body is not actually the person who died in that body, but a new clone activated in the flesh rather than a matrix. (Unless stasis revival only works if the person was frozen before death, and dead really means dead, and there’s no reviving even from a body in status…)

But for the sake of argument - IF a dead body preserved in stasis, who had been scanned, replicated and activated was revived once their injury or illness had been healed… would that body house the “original” or would the matrix house “the original”?

Please discuss!!

It is probably just because Dennis Taylor decided on some random number but is anyone else irked out by the fact that 86 years after Herschel and Neil left Sol in 2259 with the remaining 14 million humans, the human population already blew up to 60 billion in 2345 according to Bill? If one takes into account the travel time for the 14 million to their colonies they maybe had 70 years to propagate. Even if you factor in a generous growth for the already established colonies fom one million to 11 million and low mortality rates each couple would require 20-30 kids at least. (Yes, I asked ChatGPT, sue me ;))

would it have been more interesting if starfleet wasn’t the most idiotic set of assumptions ever?

I really find myself getting frustrated with the Bobs for not just…wiping them out. Someone attempting to force me? CONTROL me by hacking my mind? That is something that presents an existential threat, and must be removed.

it would be one thing if they had a good point, or addressed an issue in the bobiverse that needed it (like killmonger from the Black Panther movies) but deciding well for everyone I get to make all the decision because I know best…you get to be scrap metal.

I only recently finished the fifth book and I am puzzled by the whole Alexander situation. Everything about him screams "replicant" in my opinion. He has parts of an interstellar ship and parts of a scut which he turned into a canoe, a thing completely unknown to the dragons (I get why he would keep the canoe but why keep that chunk of useless metal instead of melting it into spear tips?). He is inofficially from Lemuria but claims he only went there and came back (why go in the first place?), and didn't find any dragon population there that he could hail from. He supposedly comes from a family that has knowledge about the fish population dating back millennia in an iron age society. He notices Howard and Bridgets fast intercom communication and easily notices their advanced knowledge and he is only interested in Bridget for her mind, not as a mate. And after he did what he wanted, which was saving the dragons, he seemingly really disbanded his floatilla. Nothing of this makes sense for a biological being but a lot for a replicant trying to help. I wonder why nor Howard neither Bridget ever thought in that direction. Any opinions on that?

Edit: I should probably add that I think he somehow got stranded on the planet.

Does anyone else think Howard is turning into kind of a dick in book 5? His interactions with his huey company staff kinda rubbed me the wrong way. Like yeah he says hes joking about some of it but its almost like hes saying that to make himself feel better about it. He also seems to be turning into a bit of a snob too by bragging about how much money he has with his condescending "woe is me look at how rich i am" comments and the way hes wanting to monetize EVERYTHING hes working on. Idk, i just dont like where his personality seems to be heading.

So, I just finished All These Worlds and noticed something interesting. Right before the end of the fight at Earth, Bill (I think) was bemoaning the fact that he never had a mind for fighting and original Bob always preferred being a magic user.

Shortly after that Will pops in and they decide that it’s time for a desperation move . . . Cast Fireball.

Their move with the Jokers’ nukes was just the space warfare equivalent of casting fireball in a room with everyone in it and hoping your friends make their saving throws.

I love this series so much.

Anyone else reminded of the Outer Wilds DLC when reading Heaven's River?

Bob often makes allusions to other SciFi and says things that mush have a reason, like a quote or something. I’m going to make a list and anyone who wants to answer. Also add new items to the request.

1. Other species
   HeeChee
   K2
   Xindi or sint-y

2. “Why yes I will have the Pie”

3. What is Tao or maybe Tau?

4. Did a Bob ever make it to Rocky’s planet from Project Hail Mary?

5. I finally got Skippy the beer-can.

6. Requests?

I really want to get my copy of Bobiverse signed, does the main man/big boss ever come to the UK?