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Arab parents acceptance (advice needed)

Arab parents acceptance (advice needed)

Hello moms and dads, im a 23yr old ftm, i still live w my parents due to financial and personal reasons also as an arab living in the middle east, the norm is to live w ur parents until u wanna get married or have a very stable income (which im not there yet as i have literally just graduated uni).

ever since i was a kid i refused the idea of being a girl and always forced my gender identity and presented as a boy and even asked my parents to call me a boy name that i used to like, always played the dad/bro/son while playing house with my sister. cried if i was forced to wear a dress, took it off always and kept asking for boy superhero costumes and boy clothes.
my mom used to take me and my sister to the mall and i would always try to convince her to get me stuff from the boys section and always refused to buy girl clothes so she ends up giving up and doing what i want even gave in to me trying to have boys boxers.

i came out to her when i was 11, she basically shut me down so hard. i had to bury my feelings and basically emotionally and mentally shut down, still presented masculine but tried to avoid any thoughts about being trans, up until i started having severe panic attacks and very frequent mental breakdowns and depressive episodes, i started going to therapy and we figured that all of that was caused by my repressed identity and slowly i started presenting in a way that was more me.

as i mentioned i was already masculine presenting but i cut my hair ever shorter, started to dress in more of a manly way, i stopped holding back and “girl moding”, i started to hang out more with straight cis men and getting more involved in strict guys only hangouts. also as an arab, i am hairy so i stopped shaving my arms and legs, i started to grow a moustache. i hit the gym and got a more masculine build. weirdly but fortunately, my brain and body had a response where my voice got deeper and i started to look manlier although i am still pre t.

HERE IS THE ISSUE.. my parents started losing their shit as if they did not expect that to happen. they stsrted judging me more, my mother would only speak to me to make a comment about me shaving or changing something in my appearance, my dad would get mad and yell at me saying i look like a man. constant fights and arguments.
my mother ended up forcing me to go to endocrinologists with her, run blood tests, gyno visits and a lot of uncomfortable testing. the endocrinologist outed me to her saying “people like ur kid end up changing their gender based on how ur kid is acting” and when my mother confronted me about it i broke down. i ran to my room while having a panic attack and crying. she followed me and closed the door and sat next to me in bed, she kept trying to take words out of my mouth saying that she wants to help and wants to hear me out, i ended up blabbing everything then she betrayed my trust, she didnt help me, she kept judging me and forcing me to be more like a girl.

so for the next 2 years, my mother’s relationship with me gets worse to the point where we dont talk unless she wants to tell me to change something or shave. i started avoiding her and just took my space and if she ever tells me any comment i just say “sure okay” and end up doing whatever i want. on the other hand, my relationship with my dad during those 2 years have gotten stronger, he calls me at night to watch a show together, sit and talk about life, he rants to me about things and he tries to talk to me about how i feel but i always hide it from him, but we have a very good relationship where we text like best friends during the day at work and at night we hang and have son-father time as he genuinely speaks to me as his son.

2 months ago, my mother found a psychologist on instagram through ads and she decided to text her and told her about me, the doctor told her to come in and she went and talked to her about everything. a week later she tells me about what she did and asked me to go to that doctor and speak to her because she wants to see me. i agreed to go with a plan in mind (my mother picked this doctor and she likes her, if i go and the doctor diagnoses me with gender dysphoria and that i am trans and tells my mother, then mother would believe her because it is coming from the doctor that she likes and she will slowly begin to understand).

i go in, a couple of weeks in and i kept feeling like i am going just to convince her that i am actually a guy and my mother’s wishes of me become a girl is not possible and inachievable. i ended up snapping a month later and asked her “do u seriously believe that u can make me magically become a girl?” she said “no i can’t force u” i told her “then lemme be clear, this isnt possible and we deep down both know it so i need you to help me make my parents understand it” she agreed obviously and a couple of weeks later she sat with my parents. i made sure my dad goes because he is the one that understands me most at home.

the doctor spoke to them (i wasnt there upon the doctor’s request) i gave her consent to talk to them about the topic. i get a call after the session from my dad, it went like this: “the doctor explained how you feel, i understand how hard this must be for u, it isnt easy and cannot be solved by a press of a button, the doctor told us how there is a very small percentage of people who end up not being trans or detransition, the majority of people who have ur case end up transitioning and i want you to know that i accept that u got this issue and i accept you, i am here to help u. i will keep talking to ur mother and i will talk to ur sister about how they treat u, you should be treated just as normal as any other family member and we should stop bringing up this topic and make u feel different and keep arguing about this because it isnt ur fault. i will ask u to try to change but if it doesnt work, i dont want u to end up hurting urself trying to get better, all i ask for is that u stay within the limits of religion (i am muslim and me and my family are religious and we actively practice islam). whatever u do try to stay within the religion borders, if u need anything i am here, i got ur back”

my mother on the other hand told me “do not surrender, keep trying and u will be cured”. she is in denial still, the doctor spoke to her about her judgemental comments and she tries to do better but it took her less than 2 weeks to blab and comment about me shaving again.

my sister also sat with the doctor as she explained to her how i felt even in childhood and how difficult it has been for me, she has been trying to be understanding.

now today 3 weeks later, i am here thinking now what? i been here for 23 yrs and all i did in those 23 yrs is wait and try to survive just to end up living as myself one day. i recently started working although the pay is very little, i started to save for my top surgery. i should be able to do it in a couple of months hopefully. i still don’t know if i will disclose that information with my dad (i won’t discuss that with my mother) but i am scared my dad would go against it so i am still thinking about it.

i pass 100% of the time in oublic because i do have pretty masculine features and a deep voice and have manly mannerisms BUT i am always mistaken to be a younger boy rather than a 23yr old man which is causing me too much dysphoria. also the fact that u have been waiting all my life to do this, idk howm uch linger i can wait, i really want to start taking testosterone but i dont know how my parents would take it. i do not want to upset my dad because he means the most to me. my mother still in denial will cause me a lot of trouble.

the reason i am posting this is to ask parents, after a good talk with the psychologist and getting a better understanding, partial acceptance from my dad and my mother still in denial, when would it be or what is the way where it could be alright to actually slowly transition medically with hormones? do i talk about it? do i let my psychologist sit with them a couple more times to introduce the idea or hint at it? do i just wait more? should i just do it and put them on the spot suddenly? i need a parent’s pov.

TO CLARIFY: my dad is NOT supportive of me medically transitioning since it goes against my religion.

u/Unfair-Gate-2555 — 11 hours ago

Parental rejection

FTM, came out to my mom six months ago and recently wrote her to share my new name because I didn't want her to find out when I updated it on socials, email address, etc.

She hasn't written back and it has been over a week now. Our relationship has been distant for a while because my dad is very conservative and has anger issues which fractured our family dynamic when I confronted him about this as a young adult (pre-transition / egg crack). But I once considered my mom to be my advocate and miss her and said this as much in my email. She never says she misses me, too. She never says "I love you" anymore.

I feel deflated and sad. Looking for words of support or advice on how to feel better. How long did it take you to believe and support your child?

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u/TangerineUnlikely1 — 2 days ago

Sleepover 14/15 year olds

Hello

My mtf 14yo is invited to a sleepover. I don't know the parents personally, but my daughter's best friend's parents do and the best friend sleeps over there regularly.

My child has had sleep overs with girls before but the parents know she is trans and are accepting. They knew her before she transitioned too.

My child has said she would rather I don't say anything about her being trans to the parents.

I'm not sure what to do.

Any advice?

Thanks

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u/Wonderful-Carob-4468 — 3 days ago
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Doubting my parents support

Long rant sry!

For context im a 17 yr old ftm. I came out to my mom and her bf about 5 months ago, my mom was really shocked when i first came out since she thought i was just a butch lesbian (which to be fair isnt far off because of how I look pre-T) and she has seemed to take it well but I know shes struggling. Shes always let me express myself outwardly through clothes and haircuts and I trust them both but im also questioning their "support". Theyve done all the right steps like calling me he/him, getting me binding tape and a binder, packers, haircuts, clothes, etc. But as of lately the topic between us has been diy hrt. Shes allowing me to go forward with it since I do have my own funds to do so and has been somewhat helping me kn the sidelines. Shes always been sort of a helicopter parent not in a overwhelming way but shes always stressed something is going to happen to me. While doing her own research in the beginning she went down a rabbit hole of misinformation and the myths surrounding hrt and i had to gently correct and redirect her and it hasnt been a issue since. Now im fine with having to correct her but now shes stressed about me being ripped off buying T or it being laced etc etc. Im beginning to have a short fuse and i get its a huge change but I feel very very fucking alone. Ive been getting almost all of the info myself from hrt forums and reaching out to people in dms to get recommendations for places to buy from. I feel like she doesnt trust me. Ive sent her the link for the https://diyhrt.info/ and since its not founded by "medical professionals" or "doctors" its apparently sketchy. Im very aware of the risks of hrt just a heads up. She also is very adamant that i dont order anything without her knowing even once i turn 18 (in relation to buying T itself) and i feel very micromanaged. Ill hopefully be buying the T vials within the next 2 weeks im just hoping she doesnt change her mind because of the type of stuff her and her bf have been saying in "concern" for me.

I guess what im asking at the end of all of this is if any of your kids have done diy or gone through hrt was this the sort of reaction you had and is it normal?

I really just want to feel like myself idk how much longer I can do this.

u/Dsmpfanatic — 3 days ago

My adult son has not told me yet

My “son” as I have always referred to him is about to tell me. My wife has known for a while and told me. I want to be as supportive as possible but I know I will struggle with the language. I know that they are an incredible person and that this is what they need to do to be happy and their full self. This is all new to me and I just want to react correctly to let them know I love them and will always be their most fierce advocate.

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u/Bawlmerian21228 — 3 days ago

Social verses home ?

Hello, I should preface by saying that this might be a long story and I don’t always find the proper words to say and I am posting because I am looking for advice on how to support my child in the best way possible.

Two weeks ago I connect to my bluetooth headphones that O must have been using. Because they connected straight to their phone instead of my laptop. I hear a females voice calling for (M initial changed to protect my child identity/privacy.) Saying that they could no longer hear M. Now I know my child’s voice and one that was not theirs and two I do not know a friend by the name of M.

For reference the rule of thumb for having a phone instead our house is safe communication. If I notice we speak to someone we don’t know this includes online gaming I will and have taken the electronic and asked who you are, how you know my child etc. Neither of my children have never broken this rule but I do not want them potentially talking to a random 20 something year old they could have met through Roblox. They have their privacy unless I see or notice things that can get it taken away.

My first instinct was maybe I just didn’t recognize O voice, so I send them a message via laptop and tell them to bring me their phone. And they know that I’m 34 I was there when the laws for hiding stuff on phones were written so I wanted it now and not after they try to delete things. Because if they are speaking to someone named M, I need to know how you know them and which friend you know through so I can verify via mom chain. I don’t go any deeper than getting an okay of like yeah that’s so and sos kid they play soccer together. I trust them for the most part but they are in their moody preteens.

Well they hit me with a quick text that said. I’m M. And I want to be a boy. It was like everything clicked for me, their rather androgynous styling — and I’m very aware of their discomfort in with their body. I always thought it was puberty discomfort. I think I was quick to respond with asking them to come talk and they refused. I gave them the obvious I love you speech via text because they wouldn’t come out of their room.

Over the next few weeks we’ve have a few conversations by conversations I feel like it’s me talking because they clearly aren’t ready to talk about it or they are unwilling to speak. They don’t care about pronouns we use. They don’t care which name we use. They only want me and their father to know so I feel terrible like we’ve been misgendering them the entire time around the house because their younger sibling is 11.

I decided yesterday to just tell them that our doors would be open when she is ready. I don’t feel like she was ready to tell me that she felt pressured to tell me. I attempted to talk to her about getting her into therapy and she refused saying she would just come out and not care if she didn’t have to go but I didn’t feel like that was a good choice for them to force themselves when I’m not sure they understand the gravity of everything.

As of now they seem okay using their cis name and pronouns but they like using their chosen name and pronouns with their friends. I guess is this normal? Do we wait for them to be ready at home? I asked if they’d like us to privately use their chosen option and they just shrug their shoulders and I guess I feel like I’m not doing enough but I’m doing too much all at the same time.

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u/Quick-Wolverine1067 — 3 days ago

Resources on puberty for trans kids

Hi all!

I am a proud mom to a seven year old daughter (MTF). She came out earlier this year, though the writing had been on the wall for a couple of years before that. My wife (her other mom) is also trans, so while this is not our first rodeo, my wife came out as an adult, which is why I am here asking other parents of trans kids.

My daughter is of an age where we are starting to explain the concept of puberty to her and the difference between a child's body and a grown ups body. I know that puberty blockers and HRT will be an option for her (Ontario), but I don't have a good idea of what the results would look like to explain to her - I've only personally known trans people who have done HRT as an adult after going through an initial puberty.

What can a MTF child expect out of an HRT induced puberty? I understand that she would develop hips and breasts, and she would not grow facial hair. What happens to the penis and testicles? Do they grow to the same size that she would expect if she allowed a male puberty to happen? Would she still experience erections, wet dreams, ejaculation? If the penis does end up being smaller, does that impact her ability to have a vaginoplasty later in life? From what I understand from my wife's bottom surgery, they turned her penis inside out to create the vagina - would not going through a male puberty before doing HRT affect the end result of a vaginoplasty? Are there any fun surprises for an HRT induced female puberty? Would she be able to save sperm at a sperm bank for if she wants to have kids as an adult? What is the minimum age she can do that, and how long can it be frozen for? Or is there not really an option and she would never be able to have biological kids?

I am hoping to be able to explain what changes she should expect in her body if she does not intervene, and what changes she can expect if she chooses HRT, and then letting her decide as she gets older and closer to puberty. I'm not finding a lot of good information online other than "be sure to affirm your child's gender," etc. The local children's hospital does have a gender clinic, but they don't start to see kids until the very early onset of puberty. Most cis kids are raised with puberty talks at this age, and I don't want to leave her out just because her puberty may be medically assisted.

Thank you all for your help!

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u/Digzalot — 4 days ago

Mod request for trans kids with questions about their parents

​We've noticed more posts recently by trans kids, asking other parents for advice about their own parents. These posts are generally welcome here, but sometimes they're frequently asked and advice on identical situations can be found by searching on this subreddit.

If you're a trans kid and want to post a question, please search the subreddit history first, to see if it's been answered already. These subreddits might also be an option: they're non-trans-specific support by parents, and when I searched them for trans-related keywords, the downvote patterns didn't seem transphobic to me.

u/chiselObsidian — 3 days ago

Resources for unsupportive grandparents?

I’m looking for resources for adults that could teach my mother “penis = boy; vagina = girl” is not actually “just the science.”

My kid is showing some early but consistent signs that they may be trans. My mother wants me to “correct” and “teach” my child their “real gender” because “having a penis is what makes you a boy, that’s just science.”

I do not agree. I tried to explain the intersection of chromosomal, hormonal, and genetic factors that contribute to gender as best I could and I do think she’s open enough that the right resources could help.

My understanding is that “correcting” my kid in this way can be very emotionally damaging.

Does anyone have any good educational link/book suggestions?

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u/Any_Pirate_5633 — 3 days ago

Seven years after my sons (FTM) transition and as a dad this keeps happening

My (58 cis hetero) son (FTM 26) is the light of my life. He transitioned over 7 years ago and since then has thrived in just about every way a young adult can. He found love, is getting married next year and co owns a house. Great job. A smart, caring person in every way.

This is after teen years that included suicide attempts, a drug OD that led to being life flighted and intubated , and just missing a bullet from some other teen during an altercation. Total chaos.

Prior to the teen years he was a real daddy’s girl. I still grieve that loss privately ( except to my partner and my therapist ). After my first son was born I really wanted a girl , but I (and his mom and older brother) totally supported his transition.

The moment that keeps happening, although rare, is me seeing a young woman of his age in public somewhere who looks like what he would have looked like as a woman. I feel like I’ve been punched in the gut and I’m in tears.

Do any parents of trans men have this experience? Am I still holding on to something here? Thank you for any thoughtful comments.

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u/draniac21 — 5 days ago
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Pushing away Supportive Parents

I came out to my parents, and they responded supportively. But, I keep pushing them away whenever they want to talk to me for some reason. I don’t know why, they only want to support me, but I can’t bring myself to talk about it. Has anybody else had this problem?

EDIT: I am currently addressing the problem, thank you for all the advice.

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u/Alice_the_amazing — 4 days ago

Struggling Trans Kid

I'm writing here in the hopes of getting some advice from the kind of parents I wish I had. I'm trans FTM, and really struggling. I'm not a minor, but still pretty young. I've been out since I was a younger teen, but my parents are transphobic. I've recently come to terms with the fact that they're abusive. I was neglected to extreme levels as a kid, and have been my whole life. I have BPD from their abuse, and I'm currently being tested for C-PTSD, too. I'm lucky enough to have MH support from the NHS, as I live in the UK. But my luck ends there, as the support for trans people is dire. I don't even feel safe enough to tell my therapist that I am trans. I have to live at home, as my mental health and physical health are disabling - I have a genetic disease and endometriosis. I'm too disabled to work, but I'm currently trying to find a volunteering place to take me on, just to get out of the house for a bit.

I just feel so, so trapped in my body. I'm so obviously female. I have short hair, but no binder. A kind friend from abroad sent me some male clothes. It's only one outfit, but it was so nice. I still, though, look so female. The shirt doesn't even fit, because my chest is huge, and I have no binder. It hurts so badly that I look this way, and have no hope of ever transitioning. I feel so hopeless and lost. I feel like such a freak, trapped in my body. Just a binder would help so much. I tried charities, but they have such long waits, and there is nothing local to me. No home method works, as my chest is too large. I feel so horrible, and would love to just talk to some parents who are accepting.

Please delete if not allowed.

- Evan <3

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u/DifferentMagazine4 — 4 days ago

Parenting advice - child displaying gender dysphoria?

Hello Friends,

I know now it's easier, but wrong, to just let my child "decide when they grow up". Helping them now can let them go so much further towards fulfilment and enjoying their life as their true selves.

My \*son\* will soon be 9. They express femininity in so many ways:

\- loves when her sister braids their hair

\- keen interest in makeup

\- keeps turning towards girl clothes when I let him pick

\- shows no "traditionally masculine" interests

Two psychiatrists consulted said the same thing. It could either be gender dysphoria, or the influence of their older sister and result from living in a female-only home (apart from them, of course). Both said that, ultimately, the decision is with me as a parent.

They are consistently displaying this for years now, and only strengthening in it.

I want to make a decision prior to their puberty, but fear hurting them.

Please tell me what you think.

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u/Brokenintohonesty — 5 days ago

Im a teenage trans boy.

My dad doesn't support me and things have been really fucking hard. Im tired. I cant think straight. I see all the supportive parents here and I wish I had that. Im still trying to convince my dad to call me a different name and pronouns. Advice or comfort appreciated.

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u/defidentlyadinosaur — 4 days ago

Are there any parents who were not supportive in the beginning? If so, what made you change?

Hello everyone. I wanted to make a post sharing my story of who I am and why I’m writing this post.

My name is Gabriel (Or Gabe for short). I am 18 years old, and FTM. I’ve been having feelings of being transgender ever since I was 6 years old. This year I finally came out, and it didn’t go well with my family. They told me a mix of things I didn’t understand. They told me I was brainwashed, that I was only trans because I was overweight. My mom had also said that “when I was your age, I felt like a boy in a dress.” They have said they were going to accept me, but not support me. They have chosen to not address me by my name and preferred pronouns. They’ve refused to let me cut my hair, and even made me cancel my appointment to go on testosterone because it meant that I had to move out.

I came out as lesbian when I was 12 years old and my mom was supportive of it, but my dad was not. He told me I wasn’t and was in denial. My mom defended me as much as she could, but my dad is never coming around. I have not brought up my identity ever since. Now, I do my best to try and not be around them anymore. I also did come out as non binary and my mom cracked jokes about my “they/them” pronouns every now and then. I never said anything to her but it hurt my feelings.

I know they’re my parents but it feels like they don’t love me for me, even if they might. But I’m not sure if I should give them time. They’ve given me everything as a kid. I bought a book to educate them on transgender identities with a note but I haven’t gotten the courage to really hand it to them. This seems odd to ask, but what do I do? Should I keep talking to them? Should I give them that book? Will it get easier? I would love some advice from parents. I don’t want to be harsh on my parents because it’s their first time living and parenting, but there can be a multitude of reasons of why they can be acting like this. I would love some parent’s perspectives on this, simply because I’m not a parent and I truly don’t understand. Sorry if this post was a ramble. Thank you for reading.

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u/No_Profession9073 — 3 days ago

Daughter wanted to boy mode for a weekend with a relative. Some of us messed up and used her current name instead of her boy name

Not sure if I am asking for advice or just processing. I have a relative who came to visit. She’s not great about LGBTQ issues, but my kids love her anyway. My daughter isn’t ready to come out to her. So she said she’d just boy mode it and suggested we just call her “Lyle” instead of her current “Lily.”

Well, a few of the people in my household flubbed it. We are so used to saying Lily that someone would say, “Oh I was telling Lily, uh, I mean Lyle that dinner is ready,” etc.

Anyway, eventually the family member asked “Do you guys sometimes call Lyle Lily?” I said yes, and the family member didn’t ask anything else, and we changed the subject.

Lily just says “oh well.” But the whole thing just feels unsettling. On the one hand, it’s a decent soft launch for the eventual coming out. On the other, it feels ironic and odd that we screwed up by NOT consistently using the dead name.

I don’t know. Family member was visiting because she is going through a tough time, and Lily didn’t want to open up a new conversation about being trans in the middle of it. So…mission accomplished? Maybe it was a terrible idea to think boy mode would work. I’m not sure what the lesson is here.

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u/Extreme-Pirate1903 — 4 days ago

Am I missing something?

I'm really struggling. My eldest just had his (FAB) high school orientation and it was fantastic. I haven't seen him make friends this fast since the heady pre-pandemic days. He was very cute in his Hello Kitty shirt, checkered skirt and pink tights. When I met back up after it was over he was sitting at a lunch table and everyone was trading Candy bracelets and talking about MCR. So there's my son sitting at this table of 7 girls, who were all in somewhat similar clothes, with similar hairstyles, makeup, etc. The exception was the two that are apparently in the "Lolita" subculture, which, as someone who had to read Nabokov in college, makes me deeply uncomfortable, but that's a different post.

Afterwards I'm asking about the new friends and my son starts going down the line... "the one with blue hair, his name is Alex... the black frilly dress, his name is Simon and the other Lolita's name is Jay..."

My response was, "all of those people that I just met were boys?" And he responded:

"You thought they were girls? Gross..."

So my question is, has the man-o-sphere infiltrated tween/teen media aimed at girls somewhere and started feeding them the idea that being a girl is bad? None of these people, my son included, are making any attempt to be perceived as boys, but they're all calling themselves boys. It feels like when I got skateboard for Christmas one year and then I was a skater. Could I skate? No, because I didn't want to break my wrist, but I liked carrying it around the boardwalk.

There's a kid we carpool with who was female assigned at birth and there's no question he's a boy. The way he carries himself, his clothes, the way he talks... everything. The pronoun switch was so easy, because it made more sense. But with all these other kids it feels like an affectation. Is this just a roll your eyes and wait for the dust to settle situation? Or is this actually offensive behavior, like an obviously white person talking about how they identify as black bc they're 1/16th black.

I know we're not supposed to question people's pronouns, but I feel like if I was trans, and felt deep psychological pain when I was misgendered, I would look at all these girls wearing the "trans" badge as something they can just take off whenever they feel like it, and I would feel like they didn't take my struggle seriously.

Is anyone else seeing this in their communities?

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u/The--scientist — 5 days ago

My son came out to the whole family and I couldn't be prouder

My son (15) came out to me a few months ago but he told me not to tell anyone else. Yesterday he told me he felt ready and wanted me to be next to him when he told my husband and younger kid. And he did it!! I can tell what a big weight off his shoulders it was. Our 6 year old is young enough to where she doesn't even really think this is that weird, and my husband expressed his support to.

He still hasn't settled on a name so he says for now it's fine to keep using his birth name. But I am so proud of him and happy for him.

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u/DoubleAxelDVM — 5 days ago