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Ok this might be a bit of a cold take, but I am EXTREMELY fed up of the voight and I'm fed up of the fact we barely get any unsubs.

Now, with voight, they could have done a really interesting thing of where it's like a Hannibal lecter type scenario. Because it could generally be interesting, if it is done right. But it gets to a point where all the nuances and interesting things go out the window.

And also, why is it that for every season we only get like three or 4 unsubs? I'm going to sound so old and I say this but back in the old criminal minds days they used to be a quote and then the unsubs case would somehow relate to that case but they've obviously got rid of that now and that's annoyed me

Ok so I know most people think >!The Fan!< showed >!Voit!< a photo of >!his family!< at the end. That was my first thought, and I’m still sold. However, I’m wondering if anyone has any strong theories that are NOT that? What could the photo be of that’s NOT >!Voit’s family!< but would still illicit a strong response? I can’t help but feel like the writers might have wanted something that wasn’t quite as cut and dry..

Hi! I hope this post doesn’t violate any rules, and if so, feel free to redirect me, thank you.

I’m getting a kitten in a few weeks, and I want to name him something inspired by CM. Any name suggestions?

So far I am considering naming him Spence, but I’m not sure if that’s a good cat name? lol. What’s your thoughts?

He’s a boy, and grey with stripes!

I am rewatching Criminal Minds and I am currently almost at the end of season 6, in which we have a new entry: Ashley Seaver the new BAU agent.

I really don't like her because it feels like she's faking it the whole time, like she seems very stiff and it just irritates me. It really gives me the impression she's forcing her emotions.

Just to be clear, my issue with Ashley Seaver has nothing to do with the fact that she was brought in to replace JJ and Emily. I actually think rotating the cast every now and then helps to keep a long-running show fresh, I simply don't find her acting very convincing. Compared to the rest of the cast, I always feel like she's acting, whereas the others make their characters feel real.

Ofc I'm not an actress and I am aware that's a very difficult job, it's just an opinion.

What do you guys think?

Even though I’m a new watcher (even though I’m on my second watch) I just feel like criminal minds is not criminal minds anymore. Because now criminal minds evolution now just heavily focused around Voit and not their weekly crime episode where they find a different unsub in every state that they visit to. I hope I’m not the only one who thinks this

Episode 7 was brilliant and had so much heart and felt so much like the old Criminal Minds! I'm delighted!!!!!

I watch a lot of crime shows, so I’ve seen tons of good villains/unsubs. I recently started Criminal Minds again because I never finished the entire show when I started it a few years ago. I just got to the conclusion of The Replicator and liked it, but nothing has compared to the Foyet storyline. He was terrifying! He ultimately does what he does for power and control to a degree we’ve never seen in an unsub before. He’s so obsessed, calculated, and truly patient. Spending 10 years planning his comeback and escape from prison is so insane and terrifying.

When I first watched his storyline, it was the first time an unsub really got to me and freaked me out. I rewatched all his episodes last night and the actor is phenomenal. He seems so average at first, but now that I’m watching it again, I can pick up on little mannerisms and how he says things that sort of reveal something is off with him. It makes me wonder what kind of people I pass on a regular basis or who in my life could be up to something terrible and I’m completely fooled by the act they put on.

The writers did an incredible job building the suspense over multiple episodes and showing how morally grey the job can be sometimes.

I still can’t decide if I think Hotch should have taken Foyet’s deal at the beginning. Haley might still be alive, but who knows if Foyet would have actually kept his end of the bargain this time.

Show runners have said after they confirmed season 19 to be renewed how this is finally Luke's season to shine but yet it doesn't feel like it. In episode 2 Roxy dies, then following episode it doesn't even get mentioned, Episode 5 his friend dies, following episode everyone even Luke act like it never happened compared to when the writers killed off Kristal and Will we got multiple episodes of JJ and Rossi grieving yet for Luke one episode and forget about it (the same thing happened when Phill died in Season 14). He also is the one who now has the least connections,interactions and screentime with Voit out of the main characters, that even Brian has way more importance this season than him, the past two episodes he was almost nonexistent. I am just hoping they give him something in the next three episodes because all the build-up and interviews hyping him up to have this massive arc would feel pointless.

Season 2 episode 15 is driving me a bit batty referencing the last book of the Bible as Revelations instead of Revelation. So far Gideon is the only person calling it by its correct name. It’s a small thing but it pulls me out of the show every time.

Are there any errors in an episode that do this to you too?

Hey everyone. This is my first post. I'm loving this Season so far. I have so many theories after the latest episode. So do not read this unless you have watched the latest episode.

Here's one of my theories. This will probably not happen... but this is what I imagined after watching the latest episode. I do think the photo is Voit's family. Possibly them coming and going at home or whatever. What the Fan conveys here is that he is a God, he has the power to either kill them or let them live, their lives are in his hands. He completely played Voit by making Voit believe he had control over the suitation when in reality he didn't. Honestly I loved seeing Voit on the back foot for once it's great to see a unsub who can go toe to toe with him. It instantly made the Fan very interesting and he could possibly become a very good villain if done right.

Question is what would Voit do? The best option would be is that he immediately tells the BAU which honestly he should have done in the first place. I can see what Voit was trying to do. Bond with the guy, get something out of him, get the Fan to incriminate himself so they would have something on him but clearly Voit underestimated him. Evidence or no evidence Voit should have told the BAU anyway and they could have kept tabs on the guy until he possibly slipped up. Voit's ego was his downfall here. Here's what I think, his ego will end up being a problem again. I can't see him telling the BAU because one he doesn't trust them and two he will think he can handle this himself, he has to be the one to stop the Fan. So I bet he will escape. Episode 2 they spoke a lot about Voit's inner desire to escape and I feel that was all foreshadowing. If the photo is his family, that will be the trigger, the cause that will finally make him give into those instincts he has and break out.

The BAU are probably gonna think the worse like oh great Voit is back to being Voit. Unaware at first why he did what he did until they eventually start digging.

Meanwhile Voit is hunting The Fan but I actually would like to see Voit's actions having consequences here. Imagine if Voit escaping and going after the Fan is exactly what the Fan expected. Voit ended up playing right into his hands. One thing we know about Voit is that his weakness is his family. Cyrus once said: "Family's what gets you killed. But you'll find that out soon enough. That little family of yours... yeah... they'll find out too."

Rossi knew this too. It's what led to Voit being caught. So what if the same thing happens again? His belief that he could save his family and stop the Fan ends up backfiring on him massively. This is the consequence I thought of: we have seen that the Fan is quite bold already. He was bold going into the prison, bold in targeting Voit's family (if it is them) he could be bold and kidnap Voit's family but let's take it a step further. The Fan kills Sydney. Voit falls for whatever trap The Fan set and as a result he loses Sydney. His ego, trying to handle it on his own costs him big time. He loses one of the people he cares about the most. A cruel twist. This season has mainly been about family. The victims' families, JJ's family etc. Of course Sydney doesn't deserve this she is innocent but what about Voit's victims they didnt deserve it, they were innocent. He took people, loved ones away from their families so it feels I don't wanna say karma but having a loved one being taken away from him feels...I can't describe it but I think it would leave an impact. It's not that we would feel sorry for him as such but we would be feeling for his daughters. They lost their Dad already and now they lost their Mum as well. The Fan has officially destroyed their lives. It will all go back to Voit being "pathetic" and experience the feeling of being powerless.

Unfortunately the BAU arrived when it was too late. They did eventually figure it out why Voit escaped but they don't get there in time. The storyline could go two ways either Voit completely loses it I know he has empathy and all but he is furious whatever he tried to hold back, the restrain he had is gone I'm not saying he will be evil again it will be more complex than that. It will be revenge and Voit probably would feel guilt as well blaming himself for Sydney's death. The BAU have gotta go after both unsubs. The other option is Voit finally realises he can't do this alone, Sydney's death is a wake up call and he finally turns to the BAU for help especially if the Fan is not done yet and he's I don't know taken Holly or both daughters. Voit will know he can't make the same mistake again. Another thing about this season has been trust. Voit and the BAU don't trust each other but they could come to some sort of common ground, they develop a fragile alliance and work together to stop the Fan and save the girls. It would be character growth for Voit too putting trust in someone else for a change. Of course the trust needs to go both ways as well. Penelope's belief that Voit has changed and everything we saw last season can come into play here. This is the test. An opportunity to prove Penelope and Dr Ochoa are right. I would really like this option to happen because Voit and the BAU being on the same page would certainly speed things along. We saw Voit's potential in regards to his style of profiling in episode 3. His input and the BAU's combined no drama, no crap just getting straight into it could be the key in stopping the Fan for good.

Brian, I still think something will happen to him. He's been too involved this season and after all this has all started because of the podcast. Brian has given it up for good but what if the Fan targets him? Kidnaps him? Maybe the Fan will force Brian to do a podcast while in captivity. A live broadcast? A message to Voit? Or the Fan makes his own name and presence known to the world? gloating and smug about being the one who took down Sicarius, overthrown him as the ultimate serial killer. What a ego boost that would be and goes with the God Complex.

Voit's fate. I will be surprised if he survives this season. Zach hasn't been confirmed for Season 20 and I don't know this season, the way his screen time has been reduced it does really feel like its his final season. The writers and cast did speak about certain chapters closing at the end of the season and I think Voit will be one of those chapters. So fate options. Option 1: He does have the Fan in his grasp and is very close to killing him but his daughters or the BAU will stop him. His daughters, he hates that they know about this side of him now. It could be his daughters' reactions to what he is about to do that makes him pause. Or the BAU try to talk him out of it. Either way this causes Voit to hesitate and that hesitation is enough for the Fan to strike back. The Fan kills him but the Fan is soon stopped by the BAU. Option 2: He sacrifices himself to save his family or the BAU and stops the Fan in the process. A fitting end to his character and it would mess with the BAU a bit knowing he has done that and makes them question on him being a changed man. Option 3: If Voit did survive and that is a big if I guess he goes back to prison and we never see him again or he pops up time to time to consult on cases? He is useful. Option 4: He fakes his death and gets away after the Fan has been stopped and we don't hear from him again or it leads to Zach getting his dream Voit spin off lol.

As I said this probably won't happen because Sydney being killed feels like a repeat of Hotch, Foyet and Haley. I just thought given Zach and Kiele are divorced in real life this could be a way to handle Sydney's character while still involving the daughters in the show. I'm so intrigued about Holly given what happened the last time we saw her. If Sydney dies...will this finally push Holly over the edge? As for Sydney she could be killed off screen or Kiele comes back to do her own separate scenes. Then again maybe Sydney doesn't need to die she could be moved somewhere maybe her and Harlow and its Holly that gets taken. Voit's ego costs him in another way like as I said before the Fan predicts Voit will escape, Voit falls into his trap and gets captured. We could still have that podcast session as described above but including Voit in it too. The family is leverage there to keep him in check. The BAU have gotta save them and the various fate options could still happen. Ok I will stop now. I'm rambling 😂😂😂 but I'm just really drawn to the Sydney idea. 👀

tl;dr: are there other episodes where the team is visibly upset/emotional by a case? Aside from any episodes from Evolution as imo the team in general got much more unstable and unraveled quite a bit from before s16

It sometimes bothered me how most of the team members throughout the years are so ‚ok‘ with the various horrific cases. Ofc JJ and Garcia did often show more reactions (though JJ moreso in the beg.) but in general because the show set them up as experienced profilers who are focused on their jobs, the reactions to the case details were sometimes missing

I mean on the other hand, i get they had to compartmentalize their emotions because otherwise they couldn’t do their jobs

But in ‚too hell and back‘ even Hotch, Morgan and Rossi were all deeply disturbed and off their game for a moment because of the horrifics of this case

are there other episodes where the team is visibly upset/emotional by a case?

Hello guys. I finally got around to watching criminal minds after my sister told me to watch for years. I usually watch all kinds of shows including very dark ones, however, s3 e7 "Identity" heavily disturbed me. I do not feel good and even after 2 days. I do not know why and I am frankly surprised because this is not the darkest episode thus far. There have been darker.

How do you guys deal with episodes like this? Did you also find the episode very disturbing?

It's been a couple of seasons now but every time I see an edit where they include Spencer's birthday party I'm just irritated. I don't think them forgetting but 30th birthday makes any sense.

Yes, of course, maybe Rossi, Hotch, Prentiss or Morgan would forget it in the heat of a case, but JJ? Garcia? No way!

Okay so here me out

I already searched and googled this storyline because my postpartum anxiety can’t deal with what’s happening with Reid. Lol anyway I’m thinking of just skipping and start watching the episode when his issue gets resolved. Did anybody else do that?👉🏻👈🏻

I only remember the beginning but it was a unsub who kidnaps couples. He tied both the wife and husband up and has the wife say he loves him and when she doesn’t he kills the husband. After that the wife starts saying she loves him and asked him to come closer and when he does she grabs the gun and kills herself making the unsub very mad.