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Let’s talk about the Reid x JJ drama at the beginning of season 7

This might be controversial because a lot of people sided against Reid there but tbh I think he had a point. Because sorry, there was really no reason to keep Emily being alive a secret from the team.

What exactly was the purpose? To make Emily’s death more believable in case Doyle was watching them? Bullshit. It’s not like the team was publicly putting on huge displays of grief, and people grieve differently regardless. And on top of that, most of them are literally trained profilers with experience manipulating emotions and reactions around unsubs, they absolutely could’ve faked it if they needed to (tho I would be a bit worried about Penelope maybe). Like Doyle clearly wasn’t obsessively microanalysing the BAU’s grief responses anyway. Seeing Emily impaled by a massive piece of wood was quite enough + he was busy keeping a low profile while looking for his son.

And they work for the FBI, for god’s sake. They’re not strangers to dangerous classified situations. Plus Morgan and Penelope were investigating Doyle anyway (which Hotch knew about) so the team getting pulled back into the case was obviously inevitable, and keeping it secret from them might actually be a bit counterproductive. 

So yeah, I think Reid had every right to be upset. Especially considering he was apparently going to JJ regularly, grieving Emily and breaking down over it. Realistically, anyone would feel hurt and a little humiliated too after finding out the friend comforting them already knew the person was alive the whole time. It’s not just lying, it’s lying in a pretty emotionally intimate situation.

And I don’t think Reid bringing up almost relapsing on dilaudid was him trying to dump responsibility for his actions onto JJ. I think he was trying to put into perspective how badly the situation affected him and what the consequences could’ve been for him. He wasn’t saying it just to hurt her, he was saying it because it was true and she (and Hotch) should know. 

The whole thing was just unnecessary to me. Just an excessive amount of emotional distress to put them through for very little actual payoff.

Also, why the hell was Morgan suddenly so chill about everything, like he wasn’t the one most pressed about Emily being involved with a terrorist before? 

Anyway. End of rant. Thanks.

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u/Hot_Industry4829 — 12 hours ago

Looking for an episode

I might have dreamt this or maybe I’m misremembering/mixing episodes (or shows) in my mind.

But I’m pretty sure I remember an episode where there is a sort of wealthy family with a brother and sister, where the sister killed a caretaker-type (like an au pair / nanny / babysitter / tutor) young woman, while the sibling pair where teens/kids. I seem to remember the sister thinking she was “protecting” the brother from the caretaker-type? I don’t really remember if the death was covered up by the family, if the brother was blamed or if it was ruled accidental, but I seem to remember that it was revealed to the audience that the sister did it in like a flashback (so during the current case the brother and sister is aged up, and maybe the brother/family is being targeted by the unsub because of the death of the caretaker)?

I seem to remember the scene where the caretaker dies, where the brother is asleep on a lounge chair in the yard?

Idk if anyone can help me with this - as I said, I might be mixing episodes 😅

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u/Alternative_Toe_823 — 16 hours ago

CRIMINAL MINDS SUSPECT BEHAVIOR

okay why is the last episode doesn’t have continuation??? why would they do that 😭 the series is good, kinda disturbing yeah but it is crime themed so as exp

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u/nothingtwohide — 16 hours ago

I need Morgan to suffer

I am on season 8 and I feel that so far he is the only one who has not suffered, for example:

1- Guideon- Got his special place outraged and his significant other killed

2- Hutch- His wife was killed

3- Spencer- Kidnapped, drugged, almost killed, shot in the leg and I feel that the girl he is calling on the public phones will be more character development for him

4-Emily Prentiss-Got her previous job friends killed and she almost got killed, she had to pretend her own dead.

5-Penelope- Someone used her insecurities to flirt and then shot her expecting to kill her

And I can keep giving examples for each character but Morgan. The only two episodes where he was the main character were when his childhood coach was doing the same to the kids that he did to Morgan and when he saved her cousin from the guy that kept her for 8 years and I feel that both episodes were more like a redemption where he can be a hero and I feel that's unfair hehe

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u/Antique_Lobster_2036 — 20 hours ago

Garcia on caffeine is the best

Garcia- in full blown word vomit mode about a tv show they're supposedly watching together,running alll the spoilers

Prentis: 'Garcia, that isn't your first coffee is it?'

Garcia: -looks down at her mostly drunk coffee- 'well if you brew it yourself it doesn't count'

Prentis: 'okay I'm cutting you off' -takes the coffee out of her hand

Garcia- looks down at her still raised,now empty hand 'fair point'

I'm dead.

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u/Haloween_Queen94 — 1 day ago

Boston Reaper

This *thing* is the **most** terrifying thing i have ever seen.

His profile is watered down to the most narcissistic AND sadistic man to ever live. Yet he's complex but I can't quite figure out how?

He cannot be manipulated. He cannot be reasoned with. That's the most terrifying thing of all time. It's inhuman to me.

The only theory I have to survive him--and it's a LOOOONG shot--is for someone to seem pleased or unbothered that they will die. I think it just might completely throw him off for one. Second, he gets off on the terror so if there is no terror, no satisfaction?

I'm obsessed with this because I've never had something scare me this badly. I had to take a 2 month break from the show because of that episode. Yes, I know what he does later, too.

Does anyone have anything to add about this guy? Or maybe there's an unsub from the show that scares you just as bad as this guy does me?

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u/497864 — 1 day ago

The Dynamic Duo between Spencer Reid and Emily Prentiss: The Boy Genius and the Snarky Spy Agent 🕵️‍♀️📚

OMG!

Okay, can we please talk about one of the most underrated, wholesome, and intellectually elite dynamics in the entire BAU?! I am talking about our resident boy genius, Dr. Spencer Reid, and our favorite multi-lingual, snarky spy queen, Emily Prentiss!

Seriously, their dynamic gives me literal life every time I rewatch. They are so completely different on paper, yet they fit together perfectly like the missing pieces of a profiling puzzle.

Here is why they are absolute peak duo goals:

  1. The Ultimate Brain-Power Flex.

When these two pool their knowledge together? It is over for the UnSubs. Period! We have Spencer with his 187 IQ, photographic memory, and ability to read 20,000 words per minute. Then we have Emily, who is a literal diplomatic legacy, completely fluent in multiple languages (Arabic, Spanish, Italian, Russian, etc.), and packed with dark international espionage experience.

• Remember when they went undercover in the polygamist cult ("Minimal Loss")?! The way they trusted and protected each other when things went south? Chills. Actual chills!

  1. The Mutual Respect & Inside Jokes.

Emily never, ever talks down to Spencer. While other team members sometimes roll their eyes at his lengthy trivia rants, Emily actually engages with him, matches his wit, or delivers the perfect, dry, sarcastic one-liner to tease him lovingly. She treated him like an equal from day one, and Spencer respected her boundaries and her intellect right back.

  1. The "Ian Doyle / Lauren Reynolds" Angsty Era.

Can we talk about the absolute heartbreak of Season 6? When Emily "died" (fake-died), Spencer was absolutely devastated. The fact that he spent weeks staring at her empty desk, calculating the statistics of grief, and crying at JJ's house for a while broke my heart. And when she came back in Season 7? The raw, complex emotion and the temporary friction between them showed just how deeply he valued her presence in his life. He wasn't just mad; he was hurt because he loved his friend so much.

  1. Boss Lady and Her Trusted Academic.

Fast forward to Emily becoming the BAU Section Chief! The transition from peers to her leading the team was seamless because of the foundational trust they built over a decade ago. She knew exactly how to utilize Spencer’s brain, and he always had her back against the bureaucratic nightmares of the FBI brass.

They are the ultimate definition of platonic soulmates, mutual protectors, and the coolest "Boy Genius and Spy" duo in television history!

What are your guys' favorite Reid/Prentiss moments? Let’s obsess over them in the comments!

u/Full-Art3439 — 1 day ago

HELP ME FIND EP

Okay this is driving me absolutely insane because I KNOW I watched this Criminal Minds episode but I cannot find it anywhere. Spencer Reid went undercover dressed like an old lady/grandma and was sitting in a rocking chair in this creepy old house trying to catch an unsub. The unsub talked to his dead mom like she was still alive, but I’m pretty sure she was basically a skeleton/body sitting in a rocking chair in the house. Reid kept repeating some kind of code word or phrase for the team outside, and I vaguely remember the audio/feed cutting out or something going wrong while the BAU was waiting outside before rushing in. I remember the unsub was targeting old ladies or elderly women. I know this sounds bizarre but I vividly remember this episode and it’s bothering me so bad because I can’t find it. Did I somehow mix multiple episodes together or does anyone know what episode I’m talking about??

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u/Vegetable_Bet5982 — 2 days ago

Does anyone else imagine the team rehearsing the profile presentation beforehand?

Every time they present the profile to the local police department, I can’t help but notice how perfectly coordinated they are.

One person says exactly one or two sentences, then another immediately jumps in with the next part like they rehearsed it 20 times beforehand.

And somehow nobody ever talks over each other or interrupts at the wrong moment.

It never fails to make me laugh.

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u/fildo-daggins — 2 days ago

"I never have any normal friends"

Edit: It's fans, of course, not friends.

As some of you may already know, I recently started watching Criminal Minds and I’m absolutely obsessed with Spencer (surprise...)

He said this a few episodes ago, but I can’t stop thinking about it. Simply because the topic has come up quite often, of course, and Reid has struggled with it himself (when it came to the boy and his violent fantasies involving prostitutes). When you think about everything Spencer has already been through at such a young age, and the burdens he has to carry... That must be an incredibly painful and heart-wrenching thought. Every time he deals with cases like this, he’s reminded that he could have ended up that way too. And the question of whether that might still happen hangs emotionally in the air for him.

I’m very curious to see if there will be further plot developments in that regard.

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u/marphenia — 2 days ago

Wow. The "Reid Effect" must make dogs have bones to pick with the Genius Boy Wonder.

This is from season 1 episode 1 "Extreme Aggressor", where Hotch said this to David Woodland after the latter's dog barked at Reid.

Woodland: "Sandy! No, no, no, no! I'm so sorry."

Hotch: "It's okay. It's what we call 'the Reid Effect'. Happens with children too."

XD! LOL!

I wonder if cats like Reid more than the dogs.....

u/Full-Art3439 — 3 days ago

Paget's the GOAT

In my Community phase, I stumbled upon a podcast with Joel McHale and Ken Jeong where Paget was a guest. I love how she fought for the women's salary. One of her conditions was for the female cast to not be removed when she returned in season 12. She really tried to be discreet, but she does mention Thomas Gibson and it's inferred there were salary issues from his end.

She's amazing.

Podcast: Episode #17 - The Humble Outsider Who Came In And Nailed It PAGET BREWSTER (around the 1 hr mark)

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u/Swimming_Passion621 — 3 days ago

It's still so good

I've just started a full series rewatch and can absolutely see why I fell hard and fast for the show. Even though the first season dynamics aren't my favorite (I LOVE Morgan but not how he bullied Reid), I'm happily watching every episode and picking up fun little details I missed before. I'm on a full tilt binge!

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u/Frictish — 2 days ago

Jennifer Jareau "JJ" really is like a ray of blonde sunshine.

Not to mention that she's so cute and adorable!

u/Full-Art3439 — 4 days ago

I just watched "Zugzwang" for the first time... Diane x Maeve's storyline didn't really land the way I expected it to. I wanted a Foyet-level capability and motive.

Incoming rant. Spencer Reid fans, do not attack me. I love the show.

Diane's motives were shallow. I don't think she can outsmart a geneticist with a BAU Agent boyfriend for that long. See.. I always, ALWAYS try to understand where the UnSub is coming from even if I don't agree with them. Obviously, I don't agree with murder. But I would ask myself if I would do that, too. Most of the time, my answer would be, if I were as crazy as them, I would. However, Diane is just out of reach for me. And it felt like the entire point of that episode is to make Reid suffer. There are worse ways to make Reid suffer.

For instance, Reid could've found Maeve already tortured and unrecognizable. Meaning, if Maeve died and he buried her, he doesn't have a "good memory" of her face. He cannot romanticize her death. That'd be a great way to weaponize his eidetic memory. If the first image he sees of her is all covered in blood, those headaches will now be mixed with nightmares (as in screaming in the middle of the night type). That's going to hurt more. He can contemplate relapsing to his addiction, too.

Also, I'd increase the credentials of Maeve's stalker. Maybe a professor disgraced because of Maeve's genius or a head of a national project whose funds were deprioritized because of her. Then, that would be understandable.

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u/Mountain_Coconut_474 — 3 days ago

Tragedy/trauma

The episodes in season 3 have some really heavy stuff with small children being home when their parent(s) were murdered. Some of the scenes are a bit much imo. Like truly awful stuff.

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u/Any_Coyote6662 — 3 days ago

Haley

I've watched CM 3 times now and each time I feel differently about Haley and why she divorced Aaron. I've been through "you bitch, you dont understand how important his job is", to "wait a second, he should've been there for his son's medical issues" , to actually realising that she did the absolute best thing she knew how to do - protect their kid.

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u/shanes_lass — 4 days ago

Is Evolution worth watching?

Just finished the og finale, initially I decided to only watch till that, but now I wanna know if newer seasons are good enough ig? The last few seasons lacked in writing for me, like did not feel like the profiling they did in the beginning seasons, so I'm skeptical about watching ahead. Would like some opinions!

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u/Ajeeb_bakwas — 4 days ago

Lauren Reynolds Appreciation Post

Let's talk about Lauren Reynolds because she's that IT woman.

She's classy, sophisticated, reserved, witty, intelligent, beautiful, alluring, knows how to have a man wrapped around her finger, collected, and seems to be quite a mystery.

It's almost as if....she's similar to a certain raven-haired Agent.

u/Full-Art3439 — 6 days ago