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My wife told me she wants to quit church.

This is going to be long but I’m a bit lost as to what to do. My wife and I have been married for 2 years. She’s from Japan and she never really had any context for religion before coming to the USA to study English. Her family was sorta Buddhist but if you know much about Japan it’s not really based in religious theology and more just tradition. When we met I still had a bit of bitterness (tbh I still do) towards the church here in Utah. I was in a relationship with someone who felt like every suggestion by the church leadership was a commandment and that she would be a sinner if she missed institute for example. Because of this I never really connected with members here. (I grew up in Chicago only the second member in my school). I met my wife and I loved her. I still do. We’re very happy. We have a son on the way.

When we got close to getting married she met with the missionaries and got baptized. But I was never a great example and we were inconsistent with our church attendance. She never really connected with the teachings. She sorta went through the motions because she knew I wanted her too. I was hoping that something would change but I think her core worldview on religion is too different from mine for me to know how to help her. She doesn’t even know if she cares to know. I served my mission in North Carolina and I didn’t really have any real baptisms either. I’ve struggled with my faith as well. And I’d say currently I know more with my head that the church is true than feel it in my heart. Idk I’m rambling. I just don’t know what I can do. I told her we’re gonna go to church more often now and that I’d donate plasma to start paying tithing without putting a strain on our finances. I’m trying to increase my activity. But I don’t want to do it alone. And I know that language barrier and just culture differences are a big factor. She doesn’t really relate with testimonies of people who grew up in the church. Idk. I’m just looking for any advice.

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u/Adventurous_Today993 — 8 days ago
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Investing vs Gambling

I have observed over the past few days quite the debates regarding the recent talk about gambling. I’m glad that we have Prophets, Seers, and Revelators who help and guide us, seeing the challenges we need to avoid. I encourage anyone who is struggling with gambling to take that message to heart and do all you can to withdraw from the practice.

I have also seen quite a few comments and questions regarding “investing” or the “stock market” and whether that too is considered gambling. To those who believe it is, I’ll start by conceding that there certainly can be some cases where it is like unto it, and should be avoided for the very reasons outlined in the talk. However, generally speaking, I hope Church members will understand that “investing,” specifically investing in the “stock market” of any country, foreign or domestic, is not gambling.

I think President Christofferson’s talk actually gives us a useful framework for understanding the difference. There is certainly risk involved in both activities. An investment can lose money, just as a bet can lose money. But risk by itself does not make something gambling. The more important question is what is happening with the money and where the return is coming from.

Consider the Savior’s Parable of the Talents in Matthew 25. A man preparing to leave on a journey entrusts his servants with his property. To one he gives five talents, to another two, and to another one, “to every man according to his several ability.” The first servant takes his five talents and gains five more. The second takes his two and gains two more. The third servant, however, is afraid and buries his talent in the ground.

When the master returns, the first two servants are commended. The master tells them, “Thou hast been faithful over a few things, I will make thee ruler over many things.”

I think there is an interesting principle here when we consider how we handle our financial resources. The talents in this parable were not simply symbolic abilities. A talent was a measure of money or property. The servants had been entrusted with something of value, and the servants who put those resources to productive use were commended for doing so.

I certainly don't believe the Parable of the Talents is a commandment from the Savior that everyone should invest in the stock market. I think that would be taking the parable beyond its intended purpose. But I do think it illustrates a broader principle of stewardship. We are given resources, and we have a responsibility to be wise stewards of what we have been given. We are not supposed to worship wealth, become greedy, or make money the purpose of our lives. But neither does the gospel teach that we should simply bury our resources because there is some risk associated with using them.

That is where I believe legitimate investing is fundamentally different from gambling. When I purchase shares of a legitimate company, I am purchasing an ownership interest in an enterprise that produces something. That company may manufacture products, provide services, employ people, develop technology, build houses, transport goods, or otherwise create something of economic value. My capital is being put to work in that enterprise.

If the company succeeds, it generates revenue, pays its employees and expenses, invests in its operations, and hopefully produces a profit. As an investor, I participate in that enterprise by providing capital.

That is fundamentally different from placing $100 on a football game. If I bet $100 on a football game, the game itself does not become more productive because of my wager. My potential winnings are dependent upon the outcome, and the money I receive comes from the pool of money wagered by others, with the gambling operator generally retaining its margin. Someone wins because someone else loses.

Investing in a productive company is different. The company is actually doing something. It is creating products, providing services, employing people, generating revenue, and attempting to create value. The investor's return is ultimately connected to the economic success of that underlying enterprise.

I think this distinction is important because sometimes we use “risk” as though it were synonymous with “gambling.” But risk is everywhere. Owning a business is risky. Starting a company is risky. Buying a rental property is risky. Farming is risky. Going to medical school is risky. Taking a new job is risky. Getting married is risky…in some ways the riskiest!

The existence of risk does not make an activity gambling. The better question is what we are actually doing with that risk. Are we putting money at risk primarily to wager on an uncertain outcome and hoping to take money from the losing side? Or are we deploying capital into something productive with the expectation that it will generate value and, over time, produce a return?

That does not mean everything that takes place in the financial markets should automatically be called investing. There are certainly activities that can become functionally indistinguishable from gambling. If someone is constantly buying and selling highly speculative stocks because they enjoy the thrill of winning, that deserves some serious self-examination. If someone is making enormous leveraged bets on short term price movements without understanding what they are doing, that can certainly mimic gambling. If someone is day trading primarily for the excitement and adrenaline rather than following a rational investment strategy, I don't think calling it “investing” automatically changes what the activity actually is.

This is also why I think President Christofferson's comments about prediction markets are important. There can be financial products that technically exist within a financial market but are nevertheless functionally a wager. Simply placing a bet through a brokerage account does not magically transform it into an investment.

So, I think there is a meaningful distinction between investing, speculation, and gambling. For example, if someone invests $500 into a diversified index fund and leaves it invested for 20 years, the money is ultimately being invested in hundreds of companies that employ people, produce goods and services, generate revenue, and create economic value. The investor accepts the possibility of losing money, but the objective is to participate in the long-term growth and profitability of those underlying businesses.

I have a difficult time equating that with putting $500 on a roulette table.

Both involve uncertainty. Both can result in gains or losses. But uncertainty and gambling are not synonymous. I also think this is where the Parable of the Talents becomes particularly relevant. The servant who received five talents did not simply preserve the five talents he had been given. He put them to work and returned ten. The servant who received two did likewise and returned four. The servant who received one buried it because he was afraid of losing it.

Again, I don't think the lesson is that God expects everyone to maximize financial returns. The gospel certainly does not teach that wealth is the measure of righteousness. But I do think there is a principle here about stewardship, responsibility, and using the resources we have been given wisely.

We should learn how money works. We should avoid unnecessary debt. We should provide for our families. We should save for the future. We should be generous and charitable. We should build productive businesses if the Lord has blessed you with such a “talent.” And for those who have the means and understanding to do so, we can responsibly put our money to work by investing.

At the same time, we should be very careful about allowing investing to become an obsession with money, greed, excitement, or the thrill of winning. At that point, the label we put on the activity may matter less than what it has actually become in our lives.

The warning against gambling should not be diluted. Gambling can be destructive, addictive, financially devastating, and spiritually harmful. Those who are struggling with it should absolutely take the counsel of our prophets seriously and remove themselves from it.

However, if the Lord has given us resources, then I believe we have a responsibility to be wise stewards of those resources. To me, legitimate long-term investing is much closer to the principle illustrated by the Parable of the Talents than it is to putting money on a roulette table.

The important distinction is not simply whether there is risk. The important distinction is what we are doing with the resources God has entrusted to us, what motivates us to do it, and whether we are putting those resources to productive use or simply wagering them on an uncertain outcome.

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u/Flat_Advertising_573 — 8 days ago
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Baby Blessing

Is it bad taste to advertise my baby's blessing on instagram and facebook?

Wife and I are both converts and sometimes we're ignorant of the customs.

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u/ajitomojo — 7 days ago
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SHOULD I PERSUE BYU(Provo?

I'm currently at 12th grade near graduating in Philippines and plan to serve on a mission. My academic transcripts are decent but I think it would be difficult for me to enter Provo. I am planning to study in Idaho first to build up credentials, then transfer to Provo eventually. Is it a good plan? Or do you have any sugggestions?

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u/Bubbly_Hornet_3421 — 9 days ago
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Prayers

I'm a member have been for years all my life. 40 f mid single...

My family is struggling can you pray for us ? What was supposed to be a week trip ended up month due to family in hospital. With a 101 grandma a stubborn bank that cant seem to understand shes blind and cant get an account because shes old. What was supposed to be hey nice seeing you turned into a cant leave yet trip. ..we're tired.

Sure wish I was dating a tony stark or batman. But they don't exist... prayin hail Mary's. Right now. Exhausted.

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u/Straight_Dig_2796 — 8 days ago
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Race and the Priesthood

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Prophets of the Past – Forgive Past Prophets | Elder Corbitt

>Thus, the issue is not whether someone in the past had a “flawless performance.” Let’s just take the latter-day and ancient prophets and apostles at their word and concede (to those who pick through history looking to publish such things) that, like us, “all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God,” in Paul’s words.

>No, the far greater issue is whether we will embrace the greater things in faith. The greater things include charity without which we are nothing anyway. And that forward-facing faith is unto repentance.

>Again, we should be careful to avoid assuming past prophets’ actions were wrong, unwise or the fruit of human weakness simply because they look wrong from our modern perspective.

>Prophets in the scriptures have, in fact, been commanded to do things that are clearly contrary to today’s norms, customs and even laws.

>As we seek and focus on the greater things in forward-looking faith unto repentance, we will less likely misinterpret as wrong the actions of past prophets.

Near the end of her life, Jane Manning James and a black pioneer, identified by name Brigham Young, John Taylor, Wilford Woodruff, Lorenzo Snow, and Joseph F. Smith, not as men who upheld the Church’s race restrictions for priesthood and temple blessings (by which she was denied these blessings personally); rather, she identified them as ‘good, great, and holy men’ whom others should listen to and obey.”

u/KURPULIS — 9 days ago
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Remembering everything said in a blessing

I just got a blessing and wasn’t really able to take notes but mostly bc I’m so stressed I was struggling to remember what all was said. I did ask but it got awkward when I knew it was on me to remember. I’ve prayed about it, will Heavenly Father help me follow thru with the suggestions? How do you guys keep up with everything said?

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u/LugNutCoconut — 8 days ago