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and as predicted, top showing its colours with the "id vote national" but for those who need more, read these.

and as predicted, top showing its colours with the "id vote national" but for those who need more, read these.

even right wing shills are pointing it out:

PLEASE any potential left voters EDUCATE YOURSELVES before you fall for tops trojan horse

https://archive.is/20261010162148/https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/the-truth-luxon-let-slip-during-the-leaders-debate-heather-du-plessis-allan/premium/6YQXGOJVTVEQJFMPMYPZJGYEOU/

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/politics/opportunity-abandoning-tax-reform-next-term-worth-considering-in-potential-national-led-coalition-qiulae-wong/K77UD6IRHFERBH7RHN5MTK2QLI/

edit: for clarity based on some of the pro-top responses here - this post is for LEFT voters considering top.

I want them to understand that if top are in a kingmaker position, they'll vote right. ABSOLUTELY GUARANTEED.

SO IF YOU WANT TO REPEAL THE SHIT THATS HAPPENED THIS TERM, DONT VOTE TOP.

u/frenetic_void — 5 days ago

As seen in Auckland

Tbf it's the same money pool

Note - while poor quality, that image is of a real altered sign in Western Springs.

u/derekdiggs — 4 days ago
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Tax the wealth, not the wage. Young Kiwis are being locked out while property portfolios grow tax-free

u/Diligent-Dingo-291 — 5 days ago

New Zealand economy was significantly deteriorating "before the Iran war"

As I've said before too. Credit to Jack Tame for being the only Aotearoa New Zealand journalist to pick it up. You would never hear it from Newstalk ZB political editor Jason Walls

u/Mountain_Tui_Reload — 4 days ago

It came from Fox News, The Australian and The Telegraph fUK too - all Rupert Murdoch/right wing aligned media. What they fought wasn't Ardern - it was her ideology

u/Mountain_Tui_Reload — 4 days ago

Simeon Brown announces new policy to force 16 year olds to stay in school (without trades/ready work)

This is an interesting one but it feels like they are increasingly fascist in their approach. They also negate the effects of poverty and disenfranchisement, much of which often drives issues like mental health, domestic violence and homelessness.

Thoughts?

u/Mountain_Tui_Reload — 4 days ago
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PSA: Enrol to vote by 25 October, midnight, or you will not be allowed to vote anymore

Those enrolled can also check their registration at Election NZ

National were told this law would disenfranchise tens of thousands of Kiwis, and will reliably help them gain ~2 extra seats. The younger age brackets are where the biggest gap is

u/Mountain_Tui_Reload — 4 days ago

Drug Testing Beneficiaries - Spinoff

"It's cynical politics that stokes a popular prejudice that unemployment is a personal failing, and it lets the government off the hook for its failed economic management, argues Neale Jones.

National never lost voters promising tougher sanctions on beneficiaries. Yesterday’s announcement of random drug testing is the latest in the party’s sorry history of framing an economic failure as a personal one.

It is true that unemployment is rising. Stats NZ's latest figures put it at 5.6% for the June quarter, the highest in more than a decade. That is 171,000 people out of work, around 50,000 more than when this government took office.

To listen to the government, you would think those 50,000 people had suddenly become lazy and morally dissolute. Christopher Luxon told unemployed school leavers last year to "get off the couch, stop playing PlayStation and go find a job". David Seymour, backing the drug tests policy, described the alternative to work as being to "get stoned, stay in bed".

High unemployment tells us nothing about the character of the unemployed. It tells us there are not enough jobs. When the Great Depression left as many as three in 10 New Zealand workers without a job, it was not because they had all lost the will to work. The economic system had collapsed.

Standard economics explains why unemployment is high right now. Trump's war in Iran has pushed oil above US$100 a barrel and petrol to $3.50 a litre. His tariffs, now 12.5% on New Zealand exports to the United States, are dragging on trade.

At home, the government has made a bad situation worse. The building industry is in a deep slump, and still reeling from the decision to scrap almost 3,500 Kāinga Ora homes. In May it announced another nearly 9,000 public service jobs would go by 2029, so every public servant who still has a job is spending less while they wait to find out if they are next.

A responsible government would do something to fix this. It would be building houses while builders are short of work, and it would stop pulling spending out of a weak economy. 

But that would require hard work and perhaps even some self-reflection. It is much easier to blame the people who have lost their jobs, or who cannot work. So National's solution is to spend $1.5 million a year on 10,000 random drug tests, with more to follow.

The tests will find next to nothing. We know because jobseekers have had to pass a drug test for any job that requires one since 2013. In the year to June 2018, 47,115 were referred to those jobs. Just 170 failed, and that figure included people who did not turn up. That is 0.36% of referrals, probably lower than you'd find in most workplaces on any given day.

None of that will trouble National because the policy is not meant to get anyone into work. Social development minister Louise Upston says this "isn't about punishing someone because they haven't found a job". Of course it is. The cruelty is the point. It stokes a popular prejudice that unemployment is a personal failing, and it lets the government off the hook for its failed economic management. It no doubt focus-groups brilliantly and may well win National votes.

It is cynical politics and it follows a well-worn pattern. National has a crack at beneficiaries whenever it needs red meat for a conference or wants a bump in the polls near election time.

In August 2011, John Key told National's conference that 16- and 17-year-old beneficiaries would be given payment cards that could not be used to buy alcohol or cigarettes. They were already too young to buy either. The delegates cheered anyway. Twenty-five days before that year's election it was solo mums: any sole parent who had another baby while on the benefit would have to look for work once the child turned one. Eleven days out, it was drug tests.

In 2017, less than three weeks from polling day, Bill English promised to halve the benefit of young jobseekers who turned down drug rehab. In 2023, the traffic light sanctions were unveiled 18 days before the election. Now, 30 days out from an election where National is sliding in the polls, we get random drug tests.

As someone who grew up the son of a solo mum on the DPB, I find this kind of politics particularly shameful. The welfare state gave me security in childhood at a time when our small family was vulnerable. I know many people who have had to rely on it more recently, former public servants among them, to get through after this government took their livelihoods away.

If anyone in this story is lazy and morally dissolute, it is not the growing number of New Zealanders who are out of work. It is a government that would sooner kick them while they are down than help them back on their feet.

Neale Jones is a former senior adviser to the Labour Party.

thespinoff.co.nz
u/tedison2 — 4 days ago

Barbara Edmonds on Q&A - she's no politician (Topic: Indexation)

I watched Edmonds and Willis go head to head and Willis was continually attacking Labour, making assertions that were frequently untrue/out of context, and Edmonds just stuck to her lane - answering eeach question and ignoring the jibes.

It was odd as my instinct was to point out Willis's mistruths but Edmonds was calm, cool and only spoke up a few times e.g. National's fearmongering about CGT and Covi

Anyway it was kind of odd watching someone who is clearly not a politician but with their own mind, and sense of responsibility, go against spin master Willis

u/Mountain_Tui_Reload — 4 days ago

Labour says its school lunches would be made on-site [if possible], and cover all 244,400 students already involved

The document said the lunches would continue to cover 244,400 students in the 1014 schools already included. Lunches would be $5 a meal, and $6.50 for students in years 9 to 13.

The lunches would be made in school kitchens, by iwi and hapū partners or by local caterers.

Labour's fiscal plan, released last week, said it would continue to fund the existing programme at $146.2 million for the 2027/28 fiscal year, $295.4m for 2028/29, and then $149.2m in 2029/30.

The cost of living policy plan also included a commitment to restore rural school bus routes.

Labour said if it could not restore a cancelled route, then it would work with rural communities and local councils to find an alternative.

rnz.co.nz
u/Moonfrog — 4 days ago
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Nearly 15% of working population on jobseekers, 80,000 above National's target as Coalition's job cuts, record biz failures & cost of living results in 220,000 Kiwis on jobseekers while ~160,000 so far leave permanently. Their answer: cut benefits, cut youth off benefits & drive more into poverty

u/Mountain_Tui_Reload — 7 days ago

Young Voters need to enroll 18-24 year olds

Even Mike says they need to enroll. The Greens are only campaigning around Universities telling the youth to enroll but it doesnt appear to be working. Also, Mike reckons a lot of new migrants will vote conservative :(

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u/easternbrown — 13 days ago