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⚡ IS IT TIME TO EXPLORE PUBLIC POWER IN THURSTON COUNTY? ⚡

A PUD — for the people, by the people, accountable to the people.

Before PSE customers are asked to pay even more, I think we should ask a simple question:

Would we be better off with a publicly owned electric utility?

Here are some numbers worth knowing.

According to Washington Attorney General Nick Brown’s office:

🔴 PSE electric rates nearly doubled between 2020 and 2025.

💰 PSE paid shareholders $175.9 million in dividends in 2024 and another $62.9 million in 2025.

💰 PSE’s CEO received $6.4 million in total compensation in 2024.

📈 PSE is seeking to increase its authorized return on equity from 9.9% to 10.8%.

💵 The Attorney General argues customers could save as much as $695 million in 2027 under the state’s alternative recommendations.

The Attorney General’s office also says approximately 12% of customers’ electric bills goes toward investor payments and returns.

According to the Attorney General, PSE’s overall proposal would collect approximately $3.396 BILLION more from customers over three years.

SO WHERE HAS THE MONEY WE’VE ALREADY PAID BEEN GOING?

We’ve paid our electric bills year after year.

If billions more are now needed for infrastructure, reliability, modernization and growing demand, customers deserve a transparent accounting.

Were previous investments sufficient?

Were necessary improvements delayed?

Could better long-term planning have reduced some of today’s costs?

I don’t claim to know those answers. I think we deserve to find out.

PSE says it needs more than $3.2 billion in electric and natural-gas system investment over the next three years, with roughly 70% going toward the electric system. PSE says those investments are needed for reliability, growing demand, aging infrastructure, severe-weather and wildfire resilience, and Washington’s clean-energy requirements.

Those are real costs that should be considered.

But customers also deserve to know whether a different ownership model could provide the same reliable service at a lower long-term cost.

And unlike many other services, most of us can’t simply choose another electric company.

⚡  HERE’S WHAT REALLY GOT MY ATTENTION: THURSTON COUNTY HAS ALREADY STUDIED THIS.

In 2012, Thurston PUD commissioned an electric utility business assessment.

One scenario examined acquiring PSE electric facilities in a limited area along the I-5/Highway 101 corridor, primarily from Tumwater north toward the Port of Olympia.

That study projected approximately $215.7 million in cumulative savings over 10 years for that particular scenario.

Those numbers are now more than a decade old, and the study was not a countywide takeover analysis.

So we should not assume those savings would exist today.

But it tells us something important:

THIS IDEA HAS BEEN STUDIED BEFORE — AND IT DESERVES TO BE STUDIED AGAIN USING TODAY’S NUMBERS.

Instead of starting from scratch, let’s update the feasibility analysis.

Let’s answer:

• What would PSE’s Thurston County electric infrastructure be worth today?

• What would it cost to acquire and separate the system?

• How much would financing cost?

• What wholesale power would be available to a public utility?

• What would our monthly bills actually be?

• What would rates look like over 10, 20 and 30 years?

• How would those costs compare with staying with PSE?

• Could public ownership provide reliable electricity at a lower long-term cost?

A PUD DOES NOT MEAN FREE ELECTRICITY.

We would still have to pay for electricity, employees, maintenance, repairs, upgrades, substations, transformers, transmission and other infrastructure.

Buying or otherwise acquiring PSE’s local system could also be very expensive.

That’s exactly why we need current numbers rather than assumptions from either side.

If an updated independent study shows staying with PSE makes more financial sense, let the public see the numbers.

If it shows public ownership could provide reliable electricity for less over the long term, let the public see those numbers too.

⚡  FOR THE PEOPLE. BY THE PEOPLE. ACCOUNTABLE TO THE PEOPLE.

I’m not asking people to assume a PUD is automatically better or cheaper.

I’m asking Thurston County to update the study, put the numbers on the table, and let the public make an informed decision.

We studied this in 2012.

A lot has changed since then.

Maybe it’s time to run the numbers again.

👇 If you think Thurston County should update the public-power feasibility study, share this so more people can join the conversation.

SOURCES/CREDIT: Washington State Attorney General’s Office, July 30, 2026; Puget Sound Energy 2026 General Rate Case; Thurston Public Utility District Electric Utility Business Assessment, 2012.

The financial figures concerning dividends, executive compensation, investor payments and potential customer savings above are attributed to the Washington Attorney General’s Office. PSE disputes aspects of the state’s analysis and says its proposed increases are necessary to fund infrastructure, reliability, growing demand and clean-energy requirements. The 2012 Thurston PUD figures are historical projections for a limited service-area scenario and should not be treated as estimates of what a countywide electric PUD would cost or save today.

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u/Kombi19 — 7 days ago
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Angel number necklace?

Hello friends ! Does anyone know of a place in Olympia (or Lacey) that is selling angel number necklaces? I know we have tons of jewelry stores but I kinda wanted to narrow my search (I need it asap for a gift). I don’t use Amazon and would prefer to buy in person and local.
Thank ya kindly

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u/knockoffmalcolm — 4 days ago
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Places to donate like-new sofa that pick up?

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u/[deleted] — 5 days ago
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Revolutionary Communists are in the Capitol, come honk and show your support. End Imperialism and the Cuba blockade!

u/GayInThePNW — 11 days ago
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Bored? Go yell at patriot front!

Located on the scenic trosper bridge stands a group of 5 racist, cowards AND an opportunity to verbally abuse someone who deserves it. Bad week? Bad day? Be glad you aren't a worthless waste of oxygen like these losers and remind them that's exactly what they are. For a group of people who are proud of themselves, they sure do love to cover their faces.

So come on down to the trosper bridge located by fred Meyers in Tumwater; and exercise your first amendment right to call these idiots names!

Please note, if you defend them, you are a racist as well. Yes, they have every right to exercise their first amendment but so do the rest of us. I do not condone violence by u do support letting these losers know exactly what they are, loudly and with venom.

ETA: looks like we ran those losers off. Good work everyone!

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u/No_Ocelot_6773 — 11 days ago
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Board Games & Brews - Thursday

This Thursday August 20th join us for Board Games & Brews at Wild child downtown!

Board Games & Brews
Wild child
414 4th Ave Se Olympia
8/20
6:30-8:30 pm

We meet in the back room at about 6:30pm, some people come a little early to snag a table if they want to host a specific game.
The event is FREE but we strongly encourage supporting Wild Child our host location.

Don’t worry about skill level, and feel free to borrow from our board games! We highly value creating an inclusive environment and it’s really laid back.

Join our discord for future updates!
https://discord.gg/7J7zuwk9t

u/Plastic_Cabinet_3838 — 10 days ago
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Who actually owns PSE? Investors in Canada, the Netherlands, and Australia. I read the filings.

Spent the last few weeks going through WUTC filings and case law after wondering about my own power bill. Short version: PSE is owned by six investors, mostly pension funds, based in Canada, the Netherlands, and Australia, none in Washington or the US. Rate increases are locked in for 2026, and the pending case asks for electric increases of 15.15% in 2027, 3.74% in 2028, and 8.7% in 2029. I also checked whether the monopoly could be challenged legally. It's a harder no than most people assume, for two separate legal reasons. There's a virtual public comment hearing on the rate request on October 7, and written comments are open too. I wrote the full piece with sources (I'm the author), link in the comments.

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u/369OneofaKind — 11 days ago
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Lost Cat

I hope this post is allowed.

Our sweet boy cat Mochi hasn’t been home since Friday evening and we are missing him very much. He lives in the Bigelow Neighborhood, very close to Harbor Church on Olympia Ave. He is unchipped and doesn’t wear a collar. He’s a very sweet boy who’s usually shy around strangers. Please help us bring him home.

(I have put food out for him and he hasn’t come to eat any. We are hoping he is inside with a kind person…)

u/Strange_Artichoke801 — 11 days ago
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Photos of the Capitol Campus neighborhood prior to 1960

I’m looking for some photos of a family house that used to be located where the Department of Licensing building is now in Olympia, WA. Is there anywhere I could find photos of that neighborhood prior to April of 1960? Aerial or street photos. Thank you

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u/PartyMcFly420 — 11 days ago
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MOVIE NIGHT IS TONIGHT AT LACEY LIBRARY!

Start spooky season with a modern classic.

Movie Night returns tonight at 5:30 pm with Christopher Nolan’s mind-bending MEMENTO, one of the most acclaimed and unforgettable psychological thrillers of the past 25 years.

Leonard is hunting for the man who murdered his wife—but there’s a problem: he can’t form new memories. Armed with Polaroids, handwritten notes, and tattoos, he tries to piece together the truth before it disappears again.

Dark, twisty, ingenious, and told in a way that completely messes with your sense of time, Memento is the kind of movie that practically demands a conversation afterward.

Kick off October with a movie that will keep you guessing until the very end.

Lacey Timberland Library
500 College Street SE

For more info, click HERE.

u/LibraryVibes — 14 days ago
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Affordable apartments with washer and dryer included?

Rn I’m paying 1600 for a crappy apartment in Shelton with no washer or dryer and my bathroom came with an open hole in the wall and torn up bathtub.
Anything is better than this.
Please give recommendations!!

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u/Otherwise_Track_2277 — 13 days ago