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Out of court disposal namely conditional caution

Following a VRR, I have been informed that an out of court disposal, namely a conditional caution, will be issued. Generally, how long does this take? Will I be informed when the caution is made to the perpetrator? Does it go on his ‘record’? Any information would be gratefully received.

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u/MyStrangeAddiktion — 3 hours ago

"I want your supervisor here"

I've had someone say this to me, when giving them a ticket for having all three of their children completely unsecured on the back seats. They declared that I was a liar and that they wanted my supervisor to attend immediately. I politely declined to have my sergeant come down to the scene of what was just a minor traffic stop, but explained the complaints procedure and that if a complaint was made it would be reviewed by a supervisor anyway.

My question is: is there any obligation when a member of the public asks for a supervisor to be present to get one to come to the scene and speak to them there and then? I struggle to see what it might achieve that couldn't be resolved in a phone call at a later point. In my view, the person seemed more interested in trying to have my decision to issue a ticket overruled than anything else.

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u/Nice-Grapefruit-2588 — 11 hours ago

Solicitation, I know it's not legal but...

...is it worth reporting?

Somehow my cynicism tells me it's not a large enough crime that anything would come of it, as well as people can easily deny it.

But I've now had 3 instances in the span of a year of people asking me / indicating that they want to pay me for xyz - either being followed by a car in a very obvious way, one person asking me I want to make £100, and one instance of a person just asking me outright how much I charge. And I was giving absolutely zero indication that it's something I would ever do (one time I was just walking home with shopping bags from the grocery store, in the middle of the day) and I don't know what's shifted in the past year or so because this type of thing never happened before.

I'm getting a bit sick of it, and I read up on the law so I know it's illegal to try to solicit someone - so;

  1. What the f has happened to London, and
  2. If it were to happen again, is it worth calling to report it?

Honest answers, please, because I don't want to waste my time nor police time and resources on something that's not worth pursuing in the first place.

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u/lee_remick — 11 hours ago

What exactly happens if I provide a friend with my address for his bail?

Long story short, my partner found out that his best friend had been arrested a few days ago but due to him being homeless, he has been unable to get bail. The other addresses he has tried to give have been denied as they are too close to the area where the offence has been committed. My partner has offered up my address but I live in temporary accommodation provided by the council with my two children.
I would like to know what exactly it would mean if I agree to it?
the process, will they get in contact with the council , will he have stay here etc

I would like to say no but feeling a lot of pressure to say otherwise

thanks

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u/No-Ground3263 — 7 hours ago

Power to seize vehicles involved in an RTC

It’s becoming more and more common in my force that officers are responding to an RTC and instead of recovering the vehicles just leaving them smashed up at the side of the road with some police tape on it.

When I was in tutorship I remember being given some directive by a traffic cop that we can’t do this as by leaving it with some police tape on is the police claiming responsibility for it and instead if we go to an RTC, and the owner isn’t getting it recovered themselves there and then, then we have the power to get the vehicle recovered.

What legislation would this be under so I can be confident with the law I use to call recovery? I’m fed up with seeing other cops just chuck some tape on a car and leave it there for weeks.

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u/cookj1232 — 1 day ago

So if you’re in the 87 scheme….

Apparently the Government is making instant changes to the lump sum: by reducing it. There have been some announcements about it, but I have not seen anything official in my force. Does anyone have any insight into this?

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u/Proud_Duty9716 — 1 day ago

Is it possible?

Good evening,

I hope this is allowed here bit of a random request what are the chances that I could possibly get a police car or an officer to take my son to prom in one of vehicles let me tell you the boy is obsessed, he plays "role play" in GTA knows every single law has a job on the game he's obsessed, takes pictures of police cars and has been accepted for a police interview thing for police cadets I have a brother in the MET and I swear when these 2 get together I may as well change my last name there's no emails for the stations I don't know if I'm pushing my luck if I walk into a station and ask so I'm asking here what my chances are I live in West Yorkshire!

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u/UniversityAdept8287 — 1 day ago

Regret / cold feet ?

Hi all I have a start date next month and was wondering if anyone has regretted joining a force / being a officer or if you have left what made you ?

Many thanks

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u/Nobody2026 — 1 day ago

Court appeals

Recently had a case go to mags where I was supposed to give evidence as the OIC over live link. Spent hours building the file and making sure everything was nailed on. Cut to me sat in front of my laptop for 4 hours waiting for the call only to find out it was dismissed as the prosecutor couldn’t get hold of me! Even after contacting the court that morning to let them know I was ready and waiting, and to make sure the prosecution had my contact details! Apologies for my ignorance but is there an appeals procedure for this? Feeling very frustrated that it was dropped over a breakdown of communication, makes me wonder why we bother sometimes.

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u/antwon1217 — 1 day ago

Manchester Airport Assault - What Am I Missing?

We’ve all seen the videos but it’s linked below for posterity.

Why could they not convict the guy on assaulting the male officer? Can any police members give insight as from what I saw, he attempted to arrest him then they almost immediately escalated and attacked, including the brother on this guy too.

The head kick is disgraceful but I wouldn’t have thought that could have negated the original assault and should be treated separately.

Was the initial arrest too quick? Should they have been asked to step aside first or was this by the book?

There’s also a claim they slammed him into the machine but I don’t see that in the video.

Hoping someone can explain what I’m missing.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ZypdNYhA9OI&pp=ygUZbWFuY2hlc3RlciBhaXJwb3J0IHBvbGljZQ%3D%3D

u/CyclePrevious9043 — 1 day ago
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Never seen a job that punishes its staff for doing their job like thos before

Couple of hours left of shift, driving around with a probationer, thought to myself 'I know, we'll do some traffic as she hasn't had much exposure to that yet and its a bit Q thos afternoon'.

End up with a disqual driver on the side of the road. Long story short - now stuck with a full file to complete trying to navigate an absolutely shocking IT system.
1 or 2 other members of the team? Sat in the office all day. Workloads on 0, easy life.

Where in the holy fuck is the incentive to go out and pull over another car?

EDIT: Just to clarify as I may have worded this poorly: I am NOT asking for others to do my work for me. It just seems to be a bit of a negative feedback loop where detecting low-level crime is disincentivised with wholly disproportionate file builds.

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u/LastRoman2023 — 3 days ago

Pension at inspector rank

I’ve heard musings that some may have to go on to the age of 58 (rather then go at 55) in order to draw the maximum benefits of pension if promoted to inspector within the last few years of service. Does this sound familiar at all?

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u/Proud_Duty9716 — 3 days ago

PCDA lit review advise!

Ive recently started the PCDA route, we have been tasked to write a 1500 word lit review on one of the following topics :- knife crime, crime prevention or the re victimisation of burglary victims….
As someone who has never written as essay before i need some inspo on what to write about.. the topics are so broad! Im struggling to narrow it down to something i can write about in 1500s words..
Please! If any PCDAs can help with a bit of advice

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u/HanesReddit — 3 days ago

E-scooter policy (North-East)

What’s your approach to a respectable middle-aged bloke riding an e-scooter on a suburban commute? Do you issue a warning, or go straight to Defcon 1 with confiscation/fine/points?

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u/Middle_Branch_1148 — 5 days ago

If I want to S&S a vehicle under S23 MDA, what power do I use to stop the vehicle?

Does the power come from the RTA or does S23 allow stopping of vehicles?

Thanks

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u/cvd9 — 4 days ago

I would like to say, thank you.

I made a post recently, asking wtf is the point, and expressing how tired I am in general.

Was met with plenty of DMs letting me know, I shouldn't be so weak/I should be doing better/what am I even doing etc.

However, I also had plenty of fellow officers and people in general cheering me on and simply offering me an ear to listen. I obvs won't take anyone up on this, bc f knows we can't have anything held against us.

I know, I signed up for this and I have zero regrets. Ultimately, I love this job, but a girl is allowed to have feelings here and there. As are my fellow geezers.

Tl;dr blah blah blah, thank you.

I suppose I should ask a question to open up some sort of discussion... what are your fav snacks to keep on hand to ensure you don't crash? Mine are those Maoam ball things and Salt and Vinegar Hula Hoops.

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u/bluesourbelts — 5 days ago

How much pressure is needed to leave a shoe tread bruise on skin?

Hi everyone 👋🏻

A bit of a random question but my daughter had an incident at school today where another child stomped (seemingly purposefully) on her hand to the extent she ended up with some small cuts to her fingers and a bruise on the back of her hand where the tread of the other child’s trainer is visible in the bruise.

I watch a lot of forensics type shows and I seem to recall that leaving a shoe print as a bruise requires a fair bit of force?

I want to approach the school about it as I don’t feel it’s been handled appropriately but I’d like to be accurately informed first, as the other child says it was an accident.

ETA: To clarify, I just wanted to know for when I approach school that it isn’t something that could occur with very minimal contact.

I don’t want the other child to get in trouble. I just thought police officers would obviously have experience with assault type stuff and so know what common type injuries are, I don’t know if that makes sense!

I’ll add this to my OP.

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u/Princess_starkitty — 4 days ago