u/Advanced_Pack4241

I had the discussion with a Lute fan about the exorcists' formation

I understand that Adam dosen't look like a dude who genuinly believe his mission, but I feel he would be literally be the only one who could indocrinate the exorcists, since they seem to spended time only with him, we barely see in the court other than Lute for being the second in command.

I think Adam may have hated the sinners for some things, like maybe the trauma of the fruit or any other, and then forced his view on the exorcists of black and white.

In the beginning of the movie is confirm there will be a montage of Spidey across the years, with some of his villains appearing.

Two I would personally like are:

1. Black Cat, that fit pretty well in this moment of Peter's life were he wants to be just Spider-Man and she is more into the mask than the person behind initially. I thought her with a mask that jhidd her face so can recast her in future movies
2. Lizard, since he is likely never gonna be adapt as a major villain, and Hulk will likely take his place, so a cameo in the montage would be cute. This would be MCU's variant.

I think someone mentioned that when Peter fall from he building with Hulk, he has what it's seem to be Shocker's guantlet.

The building I think is Damage Control's headquaters of New York, so maybe they arrested Shocker before, so they have his tech around.

I think he may appears at the end of the initial montage, with Peter defeating him and the DODC arresting him.

Lilith was implied being an important figure in sinners society, and Zestial is the oldest overlord, so I think make sense tey both know each other and pheraps worked together. I think may be this the reason of the green of the S3 title card will have purple and green, reprsenting both Zestial and Lilith.

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While I understand people not trusting it, I think there are some quotes or dialogues that legitmaze it at some capacity.

First, Lucifer dialogue in 1x05 towards Charlie, about sinners

>They got gifted free will and look what they did with it! Everything's terrible!

This imply Lucifer never wanted the evil to get free and was out of desire to help.

I think may have been like with Vox confrontation, Lucifer out of his pride, he didn't consider potential consequences. I feel this respond to one of the arguments used by some fans to refute the story, that it must be fake because Lilith choose to leave Adam. While I do hope the official show answer to this, I think the fact that Lucifer depression is because he see just the evil that came out of his dream means he actually give it to them.

Other argument that is used by some fans to refute the story is that potray Adam as the bad guy who wanted to control Lilith, while her as the good girl. On Lilith I will talk later on the post, but I think Adam was controlling towards Lilith, because in the present he continued to had the behavior of controlling women with his army of exorcists, that are all women.

The second major point is about the story potraying Heaven as the evil and Lucifer and Lilith as the victims. I think is important to remind this dialogue of Sera:

>if you start to question... you could end up like Lucifer: Fallen. I couldn't bear to see you suffer that fate

This fit pretty much well with the fall of Lucifer in the story, since seem imply the fall as something scary thqt may happen by questioning the rules

So I think the story may be true on this points.

The part that I don't completely trust, are Lilith's, because seem to me to tend to put her in a better light than Lucifer's, since he is potrayed as a person who lose hope and her as the saviour of Hell.

I think are complicated to add because you need to justify in your script why the protagonists should go in the ocean. I was reading a rewrite of Rebirth set on the Amazons that had Zora and the characters forced to go on the Ocean to adapt the mosasaurus scene. Also, I always have the idea that they may escape and destroy the ecostystem.

I think a good way to add them, is having them being able to live in freshwater, like some amazonians dolphins. Also, if we can accept Spinosaurus travelling on the ocean, I don't think is an issue seeing marine reptiles, smaller than Rebirth's and 2015's Mosa, in freshwaters.

While she must likely have her reasons to doing disasters, maybe Meztger killed her family, I hope we have her saving civillians in the background, because is bad having a future heroine doing disasters and putting people in danger.

The AU are alternative universe created by the fans

1. Isla Sorna. The Site B. The fabric of the animals. After the mysterious disappearence of dinosaurus from Nublar, the few left were transported to Sorna, become the house of dinosaurus. It was also the place were Jurassic World, Fallen Kingdom and Camp Cretaceous take place in my AU, so in the present Sorna was destroyed by Mount Sibo
2. Isla Muerta. The Site C. The first experiments of dino clonation happened here, and a lot of mutands born from them. Basically Saint Hubert. An expedetion financied by Hammond and Lockwood taked place shortly after San Deigo accident, to find a cure for a dino desease in Sorna. This ended up in a big bombardment, as an act of mercy for this sutfering creaures. In 2010s, Doctor Wu returned to the island for start his hybridation experiments, that then were gonna continued on Isla Pena
3. Isla Matanceros. The Site D. Here happened the first experiments of clonation ever, only on cenozoic animals, to being easier to clone. Smilodons, Mammoths, Wolly Rhinos, Cave lions, short-faced bears, megatheriums, Gigantopitechus, Paraceratherium, Entelodons, Terror Birds, Embelotheriums, Andrewsarchus, Ambulocetus and Amphicyons
4. Isla Tacaño. Site B2. Experiments were conducted on this island using cloning methods that did not require amber—utilizing metal analyzers instead. The dominant species are aquatic, such as mosasaurs, ichthyosaurs, pre-mssozoic animals and Cenozoic whales. But unlike JW's mosasaurus, this creatures were genetically altered to live on were genetically altered to live exclusively in fresh water.
5. Isla Pena. Site B3. Designed just for the clonation of preisthoric plants. Then in 2010s, Doctor Wu continued his expeiments on hybridations, like the spinoraptor, stegoceratops, ankylodocus, mutadons, the indominus rex and the indoraptor. Was then abbandoned after Eli Mills death, leaving the hybrids on their own

all the islands, share also some commons habitants that managed to travell among the islands, like pteranodons and some spinosaurus like baryonyx an suchumimus, that swim to the other islands.

Compsognatus managed to travell to throught all the islands becuase they hided on Ingen's boats

I feel they should have been the villains of all the JW trilogy.

Hoskins and Eli Mills working secretely for them, desining the productions of hybrids to use them as weapons, then for the third movie creating the atrociraptors to replace the Indoraptor, and use them as the main dino villains.

This is possibly the most controversery, but I feel also they should have put them creating the new species like the Giganotosaurus and the Atrociraptors by using Nedry's shaving cream from the OG Jurassic Park movie.

I realize that, realistically, the embryos would have died, but:

1. The shaving cream would have been a genuine plot point instead of just an insignificant Easter egg.
2. They could have put an excuse to why they survived. Like in Jurassic Park the game, they send someone to recollect them

A thing I really do like about Evolution 3 was that it bring up Extinction Now group, from one of the official sites, sabotaging the park you build.

This makes me wish all the saga embrace, at some capacity, the lore from various media from firstvJurassic World's era.

For example:

1. While Evolution games shouldn't be canon, having the experiments on hybrids of Doctor Wu of Evolution Isla Muerta and Tacaño happening in the canon too
2. Having the extinction now group being behind of the dinosaurus extinction in Rebirth's time.
3. Having Dinosaur Protection Group helping the dinosaurus that survived
4. Have Isla Muerta as the Site C as mentioned in Evolution

I think are those little connections that help to unite the saga

I can understand thelore of evolution being controversery take, but if the campaign of the game not canon ajd it's just other element like DIN or some special missions or characters, then I don't see the issue

ing mostly have green hulk.

Wouldn't be a big reveal as far I can tell.

So I think is fake.

I remember Glitch made a deal with Prime Video to distribuite their series.

But by far, just Murder Drones is there. Neither Gaslight District's, Gameoverse's, or Gunevere's pilota are on Prime.

It's because they want more episodes to get released, because they will stream when the series ended, or any other reason?

Okay, Tom Holland reveal the villain of Brand New Day wasn't leaked yet, which surprised me a lot, but rewatching the trailers I suspect I may understand it.

Wanna start by saying Jean Grey is defenetly in the movie, we can pretty much confirm it since William Metzger is confirmed, and he appeared just once in comics, to kidnap Jean.

But I suspect that she is not the one behind the disasters in the city and controlling people, she may being framed by someone else.

Another thing to notice, is that the Damage Control divisione under William Metzger is working alongside the Hand, since both Control's soldiers and Hand's ninjas are in the prision sequence.

The Hand in comics worship a demon called Krahllak, who possesed Daredevil once.

I think this is in line with the people who more than being mind controled seem to be posses by some kind of entity that can travell among bodies.

I think Krahllak and the Damage Control allied somehow, he would have caused disasters to justify hunting down Jean and pheraps the Damage Control may have helped Krhallak to take control of Hulk, a strong body to posses.

I think pheraps Jean will help out Bruce to get free of the mind control.

I think the recent miniseries were confirmed to be various shorts, and Viv always said was something smaller, so I think may be reserved for Spindlehorse channel.

However, if Viv decide to continue with a real series, would you mind if is stream by Prime Video.

While I don't like any big company, they are in good terms with Viv thanks to Hazbin and Helluva, so they may be open to stream another series of her.

A lot of people on twitter were saying was gonna be for a younger audience, and not adult as Hazbin and Helluva, but I always thought at least 18+, since it feature Hell and demons in some capacity.

While maybe Viv could have decided to cut the whole Hell's plot, I don't think she shouldn't if she dosen't want it or if is necessary to the plot.

I personally think either Koepp or other writer will be force to do it, because there is really nothing else they could do other than re-propose again for the 15th time the story of an abbandoned island.

While get rid of dinos in the mainland maked me unirojically hate Rebirth more than Dominion, I think obstacles can be opportunities, and they should at least try to work on the idea either to just retcon it off-screen.

I had the idea to reveal an organization altered the food or water dinos are eating to make them extinct again, and with Duncan, Zora and Loomis trying to discover it and stop them.

I wouldn't mind even if Owen or Claire returns either as secondary characters or cameos. Especially Claire who I think is one of my favorite characters and always fought for dinos rights after understanding her mistakes.

I personally feel is a good premise that allow you to do at least one movie different than one on the island or another with dinos in the mainland, at least for now.

I think isla sorna didn't make much sense.

In the book it does because isla nublar is destroyed, but in the movie wasn't the case, so adding Sorna is pretty much useless.

They even joke it in Jp3 when Alan said he never was on Sorna "There are two islands with dinosaurus?"

While it really dosen't matter if it is Nublar or Sorna in the big scheme, just an island full of dinosaurus, I think you shouldn't add things unless there s a valid reason to add it, so I think they should have set the plot in Nublar as "The lost world".

I rewwtch it 3 times in this days.

Defently more fun than Dominion. Work as a survival movie.

I think one of the main issues I have it's that it's really try to play safe, with the protagonists going to an island full of dinosaurs.

I readed was bedause Koepp didn't know what to do with the dinosaurs in the mainland, but I feel may have been precisley to answer to fans bad reactions to Dominion's ending.

On this, I think the reason I hate this movie more than dominion, is because while one was just a bad movie, this one is a bad movie that putted in the corner the saga, almost every plot they could came up with the dinosaurus in the mainland was scrap.

Seem Koepp didn't thought on the long run. While I do respect his "work first one good movie" I think at least should have consider the idea of a sequel that sooner or later would arrived, especially before doing a big retcon. And now he straight up said he has no ideas for a sequel. So I think either him or his replacement will have to retcon the dinosaurus dying on the mainland, because they have nothing else to do.

While Duncan, Loomis and Zora are enjoyable, they don't have any real arch or anything else interesting. I really wished they explored Zora's relationship with her mother. I do hope they return in a sequel and get a better writing.

On the human villain, I think I have to say:

1. Even before the movie got released, I predict who was
2. He is basically z rip off of Fallen Kingdom human villain
3. I think it's hilarious how is reveal to the audience he is s villain be let one of the two girls die and basically do nothing with. You just wait until he betrays them

I think other issue I hage is how this movie basically have no real soul. It's just characters going on a mission and a family losing in the island.

I'm saying this as a person who likes Distortus look and find the idea of mutants logical, but if you do nothing with it, then it's not worth to be put. They are just other dinosaurus with whom the protagonists fight and can be replaced. Just feel like bait for the old fans to watch the movie. Someone oncd suggested that they should have been fictional species inside the movie, and I agree, they just works better this way, pheraps removing to the Scorpius two of the six limbs.

I think rebirth is a 90s action movie in 2020s, enjoyable, but that dosen't hold up so well.

Since the theme is the bioengineering is the theme of the movies, I think make sense both concepts.

Indominus in particular I feel is very well excuted because was created in a functional park to encrase the visitors. Is human hubrish thinking they can be God. And also how she lose her mind for living all her life isolated.

The Indoraptor I feel work in a similar way, it's humanity trying to turn an animal into z weapon, even if he ends up being instable.

My issue with the mutants is that they havs no impact other than being other monsters with whom the protsgonists have to fight and escape. Like, they were put just to bait people to watch the movie I feel. And their background dosen't even make so sense, or at least is not so interesting. While probably was gonna be a huge retcon, the idea of them being the first attempts to clone some dinosaurus for the original jurassic park is actually really intersting, pheraps just chaning Saint Hubert with Isla Sorna to fit in the canon, or use Isla Muerta as the Site C.

Put them as experiments for jurassic world is really weird, because at that point of the timeline you think they can control the clonation process.

Other issue, specifically with the mutadons, is that they are basically hybrids, not mutated animals. Also, dk how they would fit if in theory the Scorpius Rex was the first hybrid in all the saga made by Ingen.