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What Will it take to Convince People that UFOs are Important?

What Will it take to Convince People that UFOs are Important? UFO historian Richard Dolan has described the initial reaction of many people to his passionate involvement with the subject. They express interest, might even describe something they saw on TV concerning the phenomenon, and then after a few minutes of his well-informed explanations, their eyes gloss over and they are clearly bored.

THE ROLE OF AUTHORITY FIGURES

Yes, it’s true; opinion polls indicate the public is interested in UFOs, now officially called UAP. Advertising executives have long known this, but the fascination is for most part quite superficial. Why is this? I suspect that it is because prior to the winter of 2017 most authority figures have essentially said that there’s nothing to it.

After all, the world is terribly complex. Thus, we rely on authorities to use vast amounts of data to make what we hope are reasonable decisions. Most people have little understanding of the technological “miracles” that science has achieved, but they are grateful and trust the devices, like planes, autos and computers to work reliably.

Needing to trust leaders, I suspect, might be built into our psychobiology. For a million years before civilization was established, hunter-gatherers worked in small groups to survive. Shamans that could use primitive psi abilities combined with careful observations of nature played important roles. Leadership was a question of life and death. Those clans that had the best leaders, the shamans that knew how to most best hunt animals, find healing herbs and deliver babies, played critical roles in survival. Thus, most of us have a strong tendency to “follow the leader” and when this becomes extreme, “We the People” run the risk of becoming, “We the sheeple.”

LINKING UFOs TO SOLUTIONS FOR MAJOR PROBLEMS

For the UFO question to have a truly major impact on the mass consciousness, this subject will need to be transformed from an entertaining diversion and become a way of addressing the seemingly insurmountable problems our planet is facing. This is already being attempted by those within the UFO community that discuss the possibility of downloading into our technological culture the secrets of the energy propulsion systems of flying saucers. So-called “free energy” in one fell swoop might eliminate poverty and pollution, possibly even reversing global warming and ending world hunger.

Of course, for the so-called ETs to give us such devices, they might understandably insist on a peaceful transformation of our planet to replace what Ufologist Stanton Friedman called our perpetual state of “tribal warfare.” In the past such a proposition was an impossibly “hard sell” because military and political leaders, the mass media and academia all in service to ruling elites repeatedly insisted, “There is nothing to it.”

HE WHO PAYS THE PIPER CALLS THE TUNE

Clandestine forces determined to keep a lid on the UFO issue have been called “the control groups.” In the past, they employed a strategy of recruiting authority figures to block any significant discussion of flying saucers. Opinion makers that stepped out of line found that their access to funding would be cut off. This was done behind the scenes and has been quite effective in my opinion.

In the USA, the National Academy of Sciences made it perfectly clear that UFO studies are not part of the “legitimate” agenda for professional science. Scientists that stepped out of line could find themselves unable to secure grants thus ending their careers. This has now changed somewhat with the Galileo Project headed by Harvard astrophysicist Avi Loeb. It should be mentioned, however, that Dr. Loeb’s UAP detection project is reportedly supported in such a way so as not to take money from traditional scientific financial backers. Heavens forbid a UAP investigation might divert funding for “real science.”

In broadcast journalism in the past, talk show hosts that might inform the public in a detailed way about flying saucers could find themselves without corporate sponsors. We should not forget that major newspapers are controlled through their editorial boards that in turn are dependent on commercial advertising to continue publishing.

This analysis of the social mechanisms of the “UFO Truth Embargo” is not a conspiracy theory. I merely describe the way power works. In the former Soviet Union, it was the political dictatorship of the Communist Party that attempted to regulate almost every aspect of people’s lives. That social experiment failed miserably. In the West, however, social control is far more sophisticated, decentralized and uses the knowledge of social psychology called “public relations” to effectively manipulate the masses.

RESISTANCE TO CHANGE ALSO COMES FROM WITHIN

On the individual level, our tendency to identify with our thoughts leads to profound attachments to old ideas. This resistance to changing one’s point of view flows from the ego itself. “Ego” in this context means identification with thought forms.  People strive to defend their religion, political ideology, or moral customs to the point where some would even kill to maintain them. Just look at the present situation in Middle East, or at the millions killed centuries ago during the Spanish Inquisition and the Protestant Reformation in Europe.

Something similar in my opinion applies to acknowledging that an “ET” and/or “interdimensional” explanation for the flying saucer phenomenon might be true. Such a realization threatens to radically change the conceptual paradigm of our entire civilization. Since humans so strongly identify with their present beliefs, it is understandable that many reject such a brave new worldview in which we might have to accept a potent non-human presence.

UFO INTELLIGENCE HAS A TIGER BY THE TAIL.

What about the intelligences responsible for flying saucers? Could “they” (whoever they ultimately turn out to be) simply fill the sky with structured craft? Or stage the proverbial “landing on the Whitehouse Lawn?” Such actions would certainly convince the masses that flying saucers are of the greatest importance. In my judgment, this scenario is the least likely to ever take place. Given the militaristic mindset of our civilization, a sudden realization of the reality of UFOs could be catastrophic. My guess is that careful gradual efforts to alert us of their importance is the game plan of both the intelligences responsible for the phenomenon and some elements of the establishment as well. I recommend Grant Cameron’s book “Managing Magic.” He shows how the US Executive Branch has pursued a gradual acclimatization project which runs in parallel to the coverup. 

So, what will it take to change mass public opinion on the flying saucer question? If the alleged “ETs” continue the present pattern of interactions, millions of individual sightings yearly interspersed with occasional massive waves, I imagine that there will be opportunities to slowly build public awareness by a responsible program of education.

RESPONSIBLE PROGRAM OF PUBLIC EDUCATION

This will require UFO enthusiasts to discipline the crazies in our midst, think creatively and most importantly of all build stable, well-financed organizations to carry out the educational campaign. All this will need to be done in opposition to the control groups that have great experience in manipulating public opinion and putting their spin on the limited disclosure efforts that has been going on.

“TURNING PAGES IN A PLAY BOOK”

Can we trust UFO intelligences to follow what we imagine is their existing “game plan” of gradually alerting humanity to their presence? I suppose not. UFO researcher Michael Lindemann once said that we should never assume that we can think like the so-called “aliens.” Nevertheless, the ever-changing pattern of interactions, as pointed out by UFO researcher Grant Cameron, appears to be as if the aliens have been turning the pages of a “play book.” This can be seen by the appearance of “Men in Black” in the 1950s, so called “alien abductions” starting in the 1960s and followed by crop circles reported in Southern England and then all over the world. While all this has been happening, tens of thousands of contact experiencers have described mental interactions with flying saucer intelligences. Many of these individuals are instilled with a sense of mission and are striving to convince their fellow “Earthlings” that we should look up and accept what our eyes are seeing.

In my judgment, UFO intelligences will continue to present us with new and creative ways of waking us up from our collective stupor concerning their “wonders in the sky.” I believe their presence is non-harmful and very likely beneficial for mankind. Bringing others to this hopeful perspective, I imagine, is a challenge that many contact and disclosure activists will continue to face for some time.

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What Will it take to Convince People that UFOs are Important?

UFO historian Richard Dolan has described the initial reaction of many people to his passionate involvement with the subject. They express interest, might even describe something they saw on TV concerning the phenomenon, and then after a few minutes of his well-informed explanations, their eyes gloss over and they are clearly bored.

THE ROLE OF AUTHORITY FIGURES

Yes, it’s true; opinion polls indicate the public is interested in UFOs, now officially called UAP. Advertising executives have long known this, but the fascination is for most part quite superficial. Why is this? I suspect that it is because prior to the winter of 2017 most authority figures have essentially said that there’s nothing to it.

After all, the world is terribly complex. Thus, we rely on authorities to use vast amounts of data to make what we hope are reasonable decisions. Most people have little understanding of the technological “miracles” that science has achieved, but they are grateful and trust the devices, like planes, autos and computers to work reliably.

Needing to trust leaders, I suspect, might be built into our psychobiology. For a million years before civilization was established, hunter-gatherers worked in small groups to survive. Shamans that could use primitive psi abilities combined with careful observations of nature played important roles. Leadership was a question of life and death. Those clans that had the best leaders, the shamans that knew how to most best hunt animals, find healing herbs and deliver babies, played critical roles in survival. Thus, most of us have a strong tendency to “follow the leader” and when this becomes extreme, “We the People” run the risk of becoming, “We the sheeple.”

LINKING UFOs TO SOLUTIONS FOR MAJOR PROBLEMS

For the UFO question to have a truly major impact on the mass consciousness, this subject will need to be transformed from an entertaining diversion and become a way of addressing the seemingly insurmountable problems our planet is facing. This is already being attempted by those within the UFO community that discuss the possibility of downloading into our technological culture the secrets of the energy propulsion systems of flying saucers. So-called “free energy” in one fell swoop might eliminate poverty and pollution, possibly even reversing global warming and ending world hunger.

Of course, for the so-called ETs to give us such devices, they might understandably insist on a peaceful transformation of our planet to replace what Ufologist Stanton Friedman called our perpetual state of “tribal warfare.” In the past such a proposition was an impossibly “hard sell” because military and political leaders, the mass media and academia all in service to ruling elites repeatedly insisted, “There is nothing to it.”

HE WHO PAYS THE PIPER CALLS THE TUNE

Clandestine forces determined to keep a lid on the UFO issue have been called “the control groups.” In the past, they employed a strategy of recruiting authority figures to block any significant discussion of flying saucers. Opinion makers that stepped out of line found that their access to funding would be cut off. This was done behind the scenes and has been quite effective in my opinion.

In the USA, the National Academy of Sciences made it perfectly clear that UFO studies are not part of the “legitimate” agenda for professional science. Scientists that stepped out of line could find themselves unable to secure grants thus ending their careers. This has now changed somewhat with the Galileo Project headed by Harvard astrophysicist Avi Loeb. It should be mentioned, however, that Dr. Loeb’s UAP detection project is reportedly supported in such a way so as not to take money from traditional scientific financial backers. Heavens forbid a UAP investigation might divert funding for “real science.”

In broadcast journalism in the past, talk show hosts that might inform the public in a detailed way about flying saucers could find themselves without corporate sponsors. We should not forget that major newspapers are controlled through their editorial boards that in turn are dependent on commercial advertising to continue publishing.

This analysis of the social mechanisms of the “UFO Truth Embargo” is not a conspiracy theory. I merely describe the way power works. In the former Soviet Union, it was the political dictatorship of the Communist Party that attempted to regulate almost every aspect of people’s lives. That social experiment failed miserably. In the West, however, social control is far more sophisticated, decentralized and uses the knowledge of social psychology called “public relations” to effectively manipulate the masses.

RESISTANCE TO CHANGE ALSO COMES FROM WITHIN

On the individual level, our tendency to identify with our thoughts leads to profound attachments to old ideas. This resistance to changing one’s point of view flows from the ego itself. “Ego” in this context means identification with thought forms.  People strive to defend their religion, political ideology, or moral customs to the point where some would even kill to maintain them. Just look at the present situation in Middle East, or at the millions killed centuries ago during the Spanish Inquisition and the Protestant Reformation in Europe.

Something similar in my opinion applies to acknowledging that an “ET” and/or “interdimensional” explanation for the flying saucer phenomenon might be true. Such a realization threatens to radically change the conceptual paradigm of our entire civilization. Since humans so strongly identify with their present beliefs, it is understandable that many reject such a brave new worldview in which we might have to accept a potent non-human presence.

UFO INTELLIGENCE HAS A TIGER BY THE TAIL.

What about the intelligences responsible for flying saucers? Could “they” (whoever they ultimately turn out to be) simply fill the sky with structured craft? Or stage the proverbial “landing on the Whitehouse Lawn?” Such actions would certainly convince the masses that flying saucers are of the greatest importance. In my judgment, this scenario is the least likely to ever take place. Given the militaristic mindset of our civilization, a sudden realization of the reality of UFOs could be catastrophic. My guess is that careful gradual efforts to alert us of their importance is the game plan of both the intelligences responsible for the phenomenon and some elements of the establishment as well. I recommend Grant Cameron’s book “Managing Magic.” He shows how the US Executive Branch has pursued a gradual acclimatization project which runs in parallel to the coverup. 

So, what will it take to change mass public opinion on the flying saucer question? If the alleged “ETs” continue the present pattern of interactions, millions of individual sightings yearly interspersed with occasional massive waves, I imagine that there will be opportunities to slowly build public awareness by a responsible program of education.

RESPONSIBLE PROGRAM OF PUBLIC EDUCATION

This will require UFO enthusiasts to discipline the crazies in our midst, think creatively and most importantly of all build stable, well-financed organizations to carry out the educational campaign. All this will need to be done in opposition to the control groups that have great experience in manipulating public opinion and putting their spin on the limited disclosure efforts that has been going on.

“TURNING PAGES IN A PLAY BOOK”

Can we trust UFO intelligences to follow what we imagine is their existing “game plan” of gradually alerting humanity to their presence? I suppose not. UFO researcher Michael Lindemann once said that we should never assume that we can think like the so-called “aliens.” Nevertheless, the ever-changing pattern of interactions, as pointed out by UFO researcher Grant Cameron, appears to be as if the aliens have been turning the pages of a “play book.” This can be seen by the appearance of “Men in Black” in the 1950s, so called “alien abductions” starting in the 1960s and followed by crop circles reported in Southern England and then all over the world. While all this has been happening, tens of thousands of contact experiencers have described mental interactions with flying saucer intelligences. Many of these individuals are instilled with a sense of mission and are striving to convince their fellow “Earthlings” that we should look up and accept what our eyes are seeing.

In my judgment, UFO intelligences will continue to present us with new and creative ways of waking us up from our collective stupor concerning their “wonders in the sky.” I believe their presence is non-harmful and very likely beneficial for mankind. Bringing others to this hopeful perspective, I imagine, is a challenge that many contact and disclosure activists will continue to face for some time.

 

 

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u/Contactunderground — 1 day ago

What Will it take to Convince People that UFOs are Important?

What Will it take to Convince People that UFOs are Important? UFO historian Richard Dolan has described the initial reaction of many people to his passionate involvement with the subject. They express interest, might even describe something they saw on TV concerning the phenomenon, and then after a few minutes of his well-informed explanations, their eyes gloss over and they are clearly bored.

THE ROLE OF AUTHORITY FIGURES

Yes, it’s true; opinion polls indicate the public is interested in UFOs, now officially called UAP. Advertising executives have long known this, but the fascination is for most part quite superficial. Why is this? I suspect that it is because prior to the winter of 2017 most authority figures have essentially said that there’s nothing to it.

After all, the world is terribly complex. Thus, we rely on authorities to use vast amounts of data to make what we hope are reasonable decisions. Most people have little understanding of the technological “miracles” that science has achieved, but they are grateful and trust the devices, like planes, autos and computers to work reliably.

Needing to trust leaders, I suspect, might be built into our psychobiology. For a million years before civilization was established, hunter-gatherers worked in small groups to survive. Shamans that could use primitive psi abilities combined with careful observations of nature played important roles. Leadership was a question of life and death. Those clans that had the best leaders, the shamans that knew how to most best hunt animals, find healing herbs and deliver babies, played critical roles in survival. Thus, most of us have a strong tendency to “follow the leader” and when this becomes extreme, “We the People” run the risk of becoming, “We the sheeple.”

LINKING UFOs TO SOLUTIONS FOR MAJOR PROBLEMS

For the UFO question to have a truly major impact on the mass consciousness, this subject will need to be transformed from an entertaining diversion and become a way of addressing the seemingly insurmountable problems our planet is facing. This is already being attempted by those within the UFO community that discuss the possibility of downloading into our technological culture the secrets of the energy propulsion systems of flying saucers. So-called “free energy” in one fell swoop might eliminate poverty and pollution, possibly even reversing global warming and ending world hunger.

Of course, for the so-called ETs to give us such devices, they might understandably insist on a peaceful transformation of our planet to replace what Ufologist Stanton Friedman called our perpetual state of “tribal warfare.” In the past such a proposition was an impossibly “hard sell” because military and political leaders, the mass media and academia all in service to ruling elites repeatedly insisted, “There is nothing to it.”

HE WHO PAYS THE PIPER CALLS THE TUNE

Clandestine forces determined to keep a lid on the UFO issue have been called “the control groups.” In the past, they employed a strategy of recruiting authority figures to block any significant discussion of flying saucers. Opinion makers that stepped out of line found that their access to funding would be cut off. This was done behind the scenes and has been quite effective in my opinion.

In the USA, the National Academy of Sciences made it perfectly clear that UFO studies are not part of the “legitimate” agenda for professional science. Scientists that stepped out of line could find themselves unable to secure grants thus ending their careers. This has now changed somewhat with the Galileo Project headed by Harvard astrophysicist Avi Loeb. It should be mentioned, however, that Dr. Loeb’s UAP detection project is reportedly supported in such a way so as not to take money from traditional scientific financial backers. Heavens forbid a UAP investigation might divert funding for “real science.”

In broadcast journalism in the past, talk show hosts that might inform the public in a detailed way about flying saucers could find themselves without corporate sponsors. We should not forget that major newspapers are controlled through their editorial boards that in turn are dependent on commercial advertising to continue publishing.

This analysis of the social mechanisms of the “UFO Truth Embargo” is not a conspiracy theory. I merely describe the way power works. In the former Soviet Union, it was the political dictatorship of the Communist Party that attempted to regulate almost every aspect of people’s lives. That social experiment failed miserably. In the West, however, social control is far more sophisticated, decentralized and uses the knowledge of social psychology called “public relations” to effectively manipulate the masses.

RESISTANCE TO CHANGE ALSO COMES FROM WITHIN

On the individual level, our tendency to identify with our thoughts leads to profound attachments to old ideas. This resistance to changing one’s point of view flows from the ego itself. “Ego” in this context means identification with thought forms.  People strive to defend their religion, political ideology, or moral customs to the point where some would even kill to maintain them. Just look at the present situation in Middle East, or at the millions killed centuries ago during the Spanish Inquisition and the Protestant Reformation in Europe.

Something similar in my opinion applies to acknowledging that an “ET” and/or “interdimensional” explanation for the flying saucer phenomenon might be true. Such a realization threatens to radically change the conceptual paradigm of our entire civilization. Since humans so strongly identify with their present beliefs, it is understandable that many reject such a brave new worldview in which we might have to accept a potent non-human presence.

UFO INTELLIGENCE HAS A TIGER BY THE TAIL.

What about the intelligences responsible for flying saucers? Could “they” (whoever they ultimately turn out to be) simply fill the sky with structured craft? Or stage the proverbial “landing on the Whitehouse Lawn?” Such actions would certainly convince the masses that flying saucers are of the greatest importance. In my judgment, this scenario is the least likely to ever take place. Given the militaristic mindset of our civilization, a sudden realization of the reality of UFOs could be catastrophic. My guess is that careful gradual efforts to alert us of their importance is the game plan of both the intelligences responsible for the phenomenon and some elements of the establishment as well. I recommend Grant Cameron’s book “Managing Magic.” He shows how the US Executive Branch has pursued a gradual acclimatization project which runs in parallel to the coverup. 

So, what will it take to change mass public opinion on the flying saucer question? If the alleged “ETs” continue the present pattern of interactions, millions of individual sightings yearly interspersed with occasional massive waves, I imagine that there will be opportunities to slowly build public awareness by a responsible program of education.

RESPONSIBLE PROGRAM OF PUBLIC EDUCATION

This will require UFO enthusiasts to discipline the crazies in our midst, think creatively and most importantly of all build stable, well-financed organizations to carry out the educational campaign. All this will need to be done in opposition to the control groups that have great experience in manipulating public opinion and putting their spin on the limited disclosure efforts that has been going on.

“TURNING PAGES IN A PLAY BOOK”

Can we trust UFO intelligences to follow what we imagine is their existing “game plan” of gradually alerting humanity to their presence? I suppose not. UFO researcher Michael Lindemann once said that we should never assume that we can think like the so-called “aliens.” Nevertheless, the ever-changing pattern of interactions, as pointed out by UFO researcher Grant Cameron, appears to be as if the aliens have been turning the pages of a “play book.” This can be seen by the appearance of “Men in Black” in the 1950s, so called “alien abductions” starting in the 1960s and followed by crop circles reported in Southern England and then all over the world. While all this has been happening, tens of thousands of contact experiencers have described mental interactions with flying saucer intelligences. Many of these individuals are instilled with a sense of mission and are striving to convince their fellow “Earthlings” that we should look up and accept what our eyes are seeing.

In my judgment, UFO intelligences will continue to present us with new and creative ways of waking us up from our collective stupor concerning their “wonders in the sky.” I believe their presence is non-harmful and very likely beneficial for mankind. Bringing others to this hopeful perspective, I imagine, is a challenge that many contact and disclosure activists will continue to face for some time.

Reddit version

What Will it take to Convince People that UFOs are Important?

UFO historian Richard Dolan has described the initial reaction of many people to his passionate involvement with the subject. They express interest, might even describe something they saw on TV concerning the phenomenon, and then after a few minutes of his well-informed explanations, their eyes gloss over and they are clearly bored.

THE ROLE OF AUTHORITY FIGURES

Yes, it’s true; opinion polls indicate the public is interested in UFOs, now officially called UAP. Advertising executives have long known this, but the fascination is for most part quite superficial. Why is this? I suspect that it is because prior to the winter of 2017 most authority figures have essentially said that there’s nothing to it.

After all, the world is terribly complex. Thus, we rely on authorities to use vast amounts of data to make what we hope are reasonable decisions. Most people have little understanding of the technological “miracles” that science has achieved, but they are grateful and trust the devices, like planes, autos and computers to work reliably.

Needing to trust leaders, I suspect, might be built into our psychobiology. For a million years before civilization was established, hunter-gatherers worked in small groups to survive. Shamans that could use primitive psi abilities combined with careful observations of nature played important roles. Leadership was a question of life and death. Those clans that had the best leaders, the shamans that knew how to most best hunt animals, find healing herbs and deliver babies, played critical roles in survival. Thus, most of us have a strong tendency to “follow the leader” and when this becomes extreme, “We the People” run the risk of becoming, “We the sheeple.”

LINKING UFOs TO SOLUTIONS FOR MAJOR PROBLEMS

For the UFO question to have a truly major impact on the mass consciousness, this subject will need to be transformed from an entertaining diversion and become a way of addressing the seemingly insurmountable problems our planet is facing. This is already being attempted by those within the UFO community that discuss the possibility of downloading into our technological culture the secrets of the energy propulsion systems of flying saucers. So-called “free energy” in one fell swoop might eliminate poverty and pollution, possibly even reversing global warming and ending world hunger.

Of course, for the so-called ETs to give us such devices, they might understandably insist on a peaceful transformation of our planet to replace what Ufologist Stanton Friedman called our perpetual state of “tribal warfare.” In the past such a proposition was an impossibly “hard sell” because military and political leaders, the mass media and academia all in service to ruling elites repeatedly insisted, “There is nothing to it.”

HE WHO PAYS THE PIPER CALLS THE TUNE

Clandestine forces determined to keep a lid on the UFO issue have been called “the control groups.” In the past, they employed a strategy of recruiting authority figures to block any significant discussion of flying saucers. Opinion makers that stepped out of line found that their access to funding would be cut off. This was done behind the scenes and has been quite effective in my opinion.

In the USA, the National Academy of Sciences made it perfectly clear that UFO studies are not part of the “legitimate” agenda for professional science. Scientists that stepped out of line could find themselves unable to secure grants thus ending their careers. This has now changed somewhat with the Galileo Project headed by Harvard astrophysicist Avi Loeb. It should be mentioned, however, that Dr. Loeb’s UAP detection project is reportedly supported in such a way so as not to take money from traditional scientific financial backers. Heavens forbid a UAP investigation might divert funding for “real science.”

In broadcast journalism in the past, talk show hosts that might inform the public in a detailed way about flying saucers could find themselves without corporate sponsors. We should not forget that major newspapers are controlled through their editorial boards that in turn are dependent on commercial advertising to continue publishing.

This analysis of the social mechanisms of the “UFO Truth Embargo” is not a conspiracy theory. I merely describe the way power works. In the former Soviet Union, it was the political dictatorship of the Communist Party that attempted to regulate almost every aspect of people’s lives. That social experiment failed miserably. In the West, however, social control is far more sophisticated, decentralized and uses the knowledge of social psychology called “public relations” to effectively manipulate the masses.

RESISTANCE TO CHANGE ALSO COMES FROM WITHIN

On the individual level, our tendency to identify with our thoughts leads to profound attachments to old ideas. This resistance to changing one’s point of view flows from the ego itself. “Ego” in this context means identification with thought forms.  People strive to defend their religion, political ideology, or moral customs to the point where some would even kill to maintain them. Just look at the present situation in Middle East, or at the millions killed centuries ago during the Spanish Inquisition and the Protestant Reformation in Europe.

Something similar in my opinion applies to acknowledging that an “ET” and/or “interdimensional” explanation for the flying saucer phenomenon might be true. Such a realization threatens to radically change the conceptual paradigm of our entire civilization. Since humans so strongly identify with their present beliefs, it is understandable that many reject such a brave new worldview in which we might have to accept a potent non-human presence.

UFO INTELLIGENCE HAS A TIGER BY THE TAIL.

What about the intelligences responsible for flying saucers? Could “they” (whoever they ultimately turn out to be) simply fill the sky with structured craft? Or stage the proverbial “landing on the Whitehouse Lawn?” Such actions would certainly convince the masses that flying saucers are of the greatest importance. In my judgment, this scenario is the least likely to ever take place. Given the militaristic mindset of our civilization, a sudden realization of the reality of UFOs could be catastrophic. My guess is that careful gradual efforts to alert us of their importance is the game plan of both the intelligences responsible for the phenomenon and some elements of the establishment as well. I recommend Grant Cameron’s book “Managing Magic.” He shows how the US Executive Branch has pursued a gradual acclimatization project which runs in parallel to the coverup. 

So, what will it take to change mass public opinion on the flying saucer question? If the alleged “ETs” continue the present pattern of interactions, millions of individual sightings yearly interspersed with occasional massive waves, I imagine that there will be opportunities to slowly build public awareness by a responsible program of education.

RESPONSIBLE PROGRAM OF PUBLIC EDUCATION

This will require UFO enthusiasts to discipline the crazies in our midst, think creatively and most importantly of all build stable, well-financed organizations to carry out the educational campaign. All this will need to be done in opposition to the control groups that have great experience in manipulating public opinion and putting their spin on the limited disclosure efforts that has been going on.

“TURNING PAGES IN A PLAY BOOK”

Can we trust UFO intelligences to follow what we imagine is their existing “game plan” of gradually alerting humanity to their presence? I suppose not. UFO researcher Michael Lindemann once said that we should never assume that we can think like the so-called “aliens.” Nevertheless, the ever-changing pattern of interactions, as pointed out by UFO researcher Grant Cameron, appears to be as if the aliens have been turning the pages of a “play book.” This can be seen by the appearance of “Men in Black” in the 1950s, so called “alien abductions” starting in the 1960s and followed by crop circles reported in Southern England and then all over the world. While all this has been happening, tens of thousands of contact experiencers have described mental interactions with flying saucer intelligences. Many of these individuals are instilled with a sense of mission and are striving to convince their fellow “Earthlings” that we should look up and accept what our eyes are seeing.

In my judgment, UFO intelligences will continue to present us with new and creative ways of waking us up from our collective stupor concerning their “wonders in the sky.” I believe their presence is non-harmful and very likely beneficial for mankind. Bringing others to this hopeful perspective, I imagine, is a challenge that many contact and disclosure activists will continue to face for some time.

 

 

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u/Contactunderground — 1 day ago

What Will it take to Convince People that UFOs are Important? UFO historian Richard Dolan has described the initial reaction of many people to his passionate involvement with the subject.

What Will it take to Convince People that UFOs are Important? UFO historian Richard Dolan has described the initial reaction of many people to his passionate involvement with the subject. They express interest, might even describe something they saw on TV concerning the phenomenon, and then after a few minutes of his well-informed explanations, their eyes gloss over and they are clearly bored.

THE ROLE OF AUTHORITY FIGURES

Yes, it’s true; opinion polls indicate the public is interested in UFOs, now officially called UAP. Advertising executives have long known this, but the fascination is for most part quite superficial. Why is this? I suspect that it is because prior to the winter of 2017 most authority figures have essentially said that there’s nothing to it.

After all, the world is terribly complex. Thus, we rely on authorities to use vast amounts of data to make what we hope are reasonable decisions. Most people have little understanding of the technological “miracles” that science has achieved, but they are grateful and trust the devices, like planes, autos and computers to work reliably.

Needing to trust leaders, I suspect, might be built into our psychobiology. For a million years before civilization was established, hunter-gatherers worked in small groups to survive. Shamans that could use primitive psi abilities combined with careful observations of nature played important roles. Leadership was a question of life and death. Those clans that had the best leaders, the shamans that knew how to most best hunt animals, find healing herbs and deliver babies, played critical roles in survival. Thus, most of us have a strong tendency to “follow the leader” and when this becomes extreme, “We the People” run the risk of becoming, “We the sheeple.”

LINKING UFOs TO SOLUTIONS FOR MAJOR PROBLEMS

For the UFO question to have a truly major impact on the mass consciousness, this subject will need to be transformed from an entertaining diversion and become a way of addressing the seemingly insurmountable problems our planet is facing. This is already being attempted by those within the UFO community that discuss the possibility of downloading into our technological culture the secrets of the energy propulsion systems of flying saucers. So-called “free energy” in one fell swoop might eliminate poverty and pollution, possibly even reversing global warming and ending world hunger.

Of course, for the so-called ETs to give us such devices, they might understandably insist on a peaceful transformation of our planet to replace what Ufologist Stanton Friedman called our perpetual state of “tribal warfare.” In the past such a proposition was an impossibly “hard sell” because military and political leaders, the mass media and academia all in service to ruling elites repeatedly insisted, “There is nothing to it.”

HE WHO PAYS THE PIPER CALLS THE TUNE

Clandestine forces determined to keep a lid on the UFO issue have been called “the control groups.” In the past, they employed a strategy of recruiting authority figures to block any significant discussion of flying saucers. Opinion makers that stepped out of line found that their access to funding would be cut off. This was done behind the scenes and has been quite effective in my opinion.

In the USA, the National Academy of Sciences made it perfectly clear that UFO studies are not part of the “legitimate” agenda for professional science. Scientists that stepped out of line could find themselves unable to secure grants thus ending their careers. This has now changed somewhat with the Galileo Project headed by Harvard astrophysicist Avi Loeb. It should be mentioned, however, that Dr. Loeb’s UAP detection project is reportedly supported in such a way so as not to take money from traditional scientific financial backers. Heavens forbid a UAP investigation might divert funding for “real science.”

In broadcast journalism in the past, talk show hosts that might inform the public in a detailed way about flying saucers could find themselves without corporate sponsors. We should not forget that major newspapers are controlled through their editorial boards that in turn are dependent on commercial advertising to continue publishing.

This analysis of the social mechanisms of the “UFO Truth Embargo” is not a conspiracy theory. I merely describe the way power works. In the former Soviet Union, it was the political dictatorship of the Communist Party that attempted to regulate almost every aspect of people’s lives. That social experiment failed miserably. In the West, however, social control is far more sophisticated, decentralized and uses the knowledge of social psychology called “public relations” to effectively manipulate the masses.

RESISTANCE TO CHANGE ALSO COMES FROM WITHIN

On the individual level, our tendency to identify with our thoughts leads to profound attachments to old ideas. This resistance to changing one’s point of view flows from the ego itself. “Ego” in this context means identification with thought forms.  People strive to defend their religion, political ideology, or moral customs to the point where some would even kill to maintain them. Just look at the present situation in Middle East, or at the millions killed centuries ago during the Spanish Inquisition and the Protestant Reformation in Europe.

Something similar in my opinion applies to acknowledging that an “ET” and/or “interdimensional” explanation for the flying saucer phenomenon might be true. Such a realization threatens to radically change the conceptual paradigm of our entire civilization. Since humans so strongly identify with their present beliefs, it is understandable that many reject such a brave new worldview in which we might have to accept a potent non-human presence.

UFO INTELLIGENCE HAS A TIGER BY THE TAIL.

What about the intelligences responsible for flying saucers? Could “they” (whoever they ultimately turn out to be) simply fill the sky with structured craft? Or stage the proverbial “landing on the Whitehouse Lawn?” Such actions would certainly convince the masses that flying saucers are of the greatest importance. In my judgment, this scenario is the least likely to ever take place. Given the militaristic mindset of our civilization, a sudden realization of the reality of UFOs could be catastrophic. My guess is that careful gradual efforts to alert us of their importance is the game plan of both the intelligences responsible for the phenomenon and some elements of the establishment as well. I recommend Grant Cameron’s book “Managing Magic.” He shows how the US Executive Branch has pursued a gradual acclimatization project which runs in parallel to the coverup. 

So, what will it take to change mass public opinion on the flying saucer question? If the alleged “ETs” continue the present pattern of interactions, millions of individual sightings yearly interspersed with occasional massive waves, I imagine that there will be opportunities to slowly build public awareness by a responsible program of education.

RESPONSIBLE PROGRAM OF PUBLIC EDUCATION

This will require UFO enthusiasts to discipline the crazies in our midst, think creatively and most importantly of all build stable, well-financed organizations to carry out the educational campaign. All this will need to be done in opposition to the control groups that have great experience in manipulating public opinion and putting their spin on the limited disclosure efforts that has been going on.

“TURNING PAGES IN A PLAY BOOK”

Can we trust UFO intelligences to follow what we imagine is their existing “game plan” of gradually alerting humanity to their presence? I suppose not. UFO researcher Michael Lindemann once said that we should never assume that we can think like the so-called “aliens.” Nevertheless, the ever-changing pattern of interactions, as pointed out by UFO researcher Grant Cameron, appears to be as if the aliens have been turning the pages of a “play book.” This can be seen by the appearance of “Men in Black” in the 1950s, so called “alien abductions” starting in the 1960s and followed by crop circles reported in Southern England and then all over the world. While all this has been happening, tens of thousands of contact experiencers have described mental interactions with flying saucer intelligences. Many of these individuals are instilled with a sense of mission and are striving to convince their fellow “Earthlings” that we should look up and accept what our eyes are seeing.

In my judgment, UFO intelligences will continue to present us with new and creative ways of waking us up from our collective stupor concerning their “wonders in the sky.” I believe their presence is non-harmful and very likely beneficial for mankind. Bringing others to this hopeful perspective, I imagine, is a challenge that many contact and disclosure activists will continue to face for some time.

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What Will it take to Convince People that UFOs are Important?

UFO historian Richard Dolan has described the initial reaction of many people to his passionate involvement with the subject. They express interest, might even describe something they saw on TV concerning the phenomenon, and then after a few minutes of his well-informed explanations, their eyes gloss over and they are clearly bored.

THE ROLE OF AUTHORITY FIGURES

Yes, it’s true; opinion polls indicate the public is interested in UFOs, now officially called UAP. Advertising executives have long known this, but the fascination is for most part quite superficial. Why is this? I suspect that it is because prior to the winter of 2017 most authority figures have essentially said that there’s nothing to it.

After all, the world is terribly complex. Thus, we rely on authorities to use vast amounts of data to make what we hope are reasonable decisions. Most people have little understanding of the technological “miracles” that science has achieved, but they are grateful and trust the devices, like planes, autos and computers to work reliably.

Needing to trust leaders, I suspect, might be built into our psychobiology. For a million years before civilization was established, hunter-gatherers worked in small groups to survive. Shamans that could use primitive psi abilities combined with careful observations of nature played important roles. Leadership was a question of life and death. Those clans that had the best leaders, the shamans that knew how to most best hunt animals, find healing herbs and deliver babies, played critical roles in survival. Thus, most of us have a strong tendency to “follow the leader” and when this becomes extreme, “We the People” run the risk of becoming, “We the sheeple.”

LINKING UFOs TO SOLUTIONS FOR MAJOR PROBLEMS

For the UFO question to have a truly major impact on the mass consciousness, this subject will need to be transformed from an entertaining diversion and become a way of addressing the seemingly insurmountable problems our planet is facing. This is already being attempted by those within the UFO community that discuss the possibility of downloading into our technological culture the secrets of the energy propulsion systems of flying saucers. So-called “free energy” in one fell swoop might eliminate poverty and pollution, possibly even reversing global warming and ending world hunger.

Of course, for the so-called ETs to give us such devices, they might understandably insist on a peaceful transformation of our planet to replace what Ufologist Stanton Friedman called our perpetual state of “tribal warfare.” In the past such a proposition was an impossibly “hard sell” because military and political leaders, the mass media and academia all in service to ruling elites repeatedly insisted, “There is nothing to it.”

HE WHO PAYS THE PIPER CALLS THE TUNE

Clandestine forces determined to keep a lid on the UFO issue have been called “the control groups.” In the past, they employed a strategy of recruiting authority figures to block any significant discussion of flying saucers. Opinion makers that stepped out of line found that their access to funding would be cut off. This was done behind the scenes and has been quite effective in my opinion.

In the USA, the National Academy of Sciences made it perfectly clear that UFO studies are not part of the “legitimate” agenda for professional science. Scientists that stepped out of line could find themselves unable to secure grants thus ending their careers. This has now changed somewhat with the Galileo Project headed by Harvard astrophysicist Avi Loeb. It should be mentioned, however, that Dr. Loeb’s UAP detection project is reportedly supported in such a way so as not to take money from traditional scientific financial backers. Heavens forbid a UAP investigation might divert funding for “real science.”

In broadcast journalism in the past, talk show hosts that might inform the public in a detailed way about flying saucers could find themselves without corporate sponsors. We should not forget that major newspapers are controlled through their editorial boards that in turn are dependent on commercial advertising to continue publishing.

This analysis of the social mechanisms of the “UFO Truth Embargo” is not a conspiracy theory. I merely describe the way power works. In the former Soviet Union, it was the political dictatorship of the Communist Party that attempted to regulate almost every aspect of people’s lives. That social experiment failed miserably. In the West, however, social control is far more sophisticated, decentralized and uses the knowledge of social psychology called “public relations” to effectively manipulate the masses.

RESISTANCE TO CHANGE ALSO COMES FROM WITHIN

On the individual level, our tendency to identify with our thoughts leads to profound attachments to old ideas. This resistance to changing one’s point of view flows from the ego itself. “Ego” in this context means identification with thought forms.  People strive to defend their religion, political ideology, or moral customs to the point where some would even kill to maintain them. Just look at the present situation in Middle East, or at the millions killed centuries ago during the Spanish Inquisition and the Protestant Reformation in Europe.

Something similar in my opinion applies to acknowledging that an “ET” and/or “interdimensional” explanation for the flying saucer phenomenon might be true. Such a realization threatens to radically change the conceptual paradigm of our entire civilization. Since humans so strongly identify with their present beliefs, it is understandable that many reject such a brave new worldview in which we might have to accept a potent non-human presence.

UFO INTELLIGENCE HAS A TIGER BY THE TAIL.

What about the intelligences responsible for flying saucers? Could “they” (whoever they ultimately turn out to be) simply fill the sky with structured craft? Or stage the proverbial “landing on the Whitehouse Lawn?” Such actions would certainly convince the masses that flying saucers are of the greatest importance. In my judgment, this scenario is the least likely to ever take place. Given the militaristic mindset of our civilization, a sudden realization of the reality of UFOs could be catastrophic. My guess is that careful gradual efforts to alert us of their importance is the game plan of both the intelligences responsible for the phenomenon and some elements of the establishment as well. I recommend Grant Cameron’s book “Managing Magic.” He shows how the US Executive Branch has pursued a gradual acclimatization project which runs in parallel to the coverup. 

So, what will it take to change mass public opinion on the flying saucer question? If the alleged “ETs” continue the present pattern of interactions, millions of individual sightings yearly interspersed with occasional massive waves, I imagine that there will be opportunities to slowly build public awareness by a responsible program of education.

RESPONSIBLE PROGRAM OF PUBLIC EDUCATION

This will require UFO enthusiasts to discipline the crazies in our midst, think creatively and most importantly of all build stable, well-financed organizations to carry out the educational campaign. All this will need to be done in opposition to the control groups that have great experience in manipulating public opinion and putting their spin on the limited disclosure efforts that has been going on.

“TURNING PAGES IN A PLAY BOOK”

Can we trust UFO intelligences to follow what we imagine is their existing “game plan” of gradually alerting humanity to their presence? I suppose not. UFO researcher Michael Lindemann once said that we should never assume that we can think like the so-called “aliens.” Nevertheless, the ever-changing pattern of interactions, as pointed out by UFO researcher Grant Cameron, appears to be as if the aliens have been turning the pages of a “play book.” This can be seen by the appearance of “Men in Black” in the 1950s, so called “alien abductions” starting in the 1960s and followed by crop circles reported in Southern England and then all over the world. While all this has been happening, tens of thousands of contact experiencers have described mental interactions with flying saucer intelligences. Many of these individuals are instilled with a sense of mission and are striving to convince their fellow “Earthlings” that we should look up and accept what our eyes are seeing.

In my judgment, UFO intelligences will continue to present us with new and creative ways of waking us up from our collective stupor concerning their “wonders in the sky.” I believe their presence is non-harmful and very likely beneficial for mankind. Bringing others to this hopeful perspective, I imagine, is a challenge that many contact and disclosure activists will continue to face for some time.

 

 

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What Will it take to Convince People that UFOs are Important? UFO historian Richard Dolan has described the initial reaction of many people to his passionate involvement with the subject. Serious

What Will it take to Convince People that UFOs are Important? UFO historian Richard Dolan has described the initial reaction of many people to his passionate involvement with the subject. They express interest, might even describe something they saw on TV concerning the phenomenon, and then after a few minutes of his well-informed explanations, their eyes gloss over and they are clearly bored.

THE ROLE OF AUTHORITY FIGURES

Yes, it’s true; opinion polls indicate the public is interested in UFOs, now officially called UAP. Advertising executives have long known this, but the fascination is for most part quite superficial. Why is this? I suspect that it is because prior to the winter of 2017 most authority figures have essentially said that there’s nothing to it.

After all, the world is terribly complex. Thus, we rely on authorities to use vast amounts of data to make what we hope are reasonable decisions. Most people have little understanding of the technological “miracles” that science has achieved, but they are grateful and trust the devices, like planes, autos and computers to work reliably.

Needing to trust leaders, I suspect, might be built into our psychobiology. For a million years before civilization was established, hunter-gatherers worked in small groups to survive. Shamans that could use primitive psi abilities combined with careful observations of nature played important roles. Leadership was a question of life and death. Those clans that had the best leaders, the shamans that knew how to most best hunt animals, find healing herbs and deliver babies, played critical roles in survival. Thus, most of us have a strong tendency to “follow the leader” and when this becomes extreme, “We the People” run the risk of becoming, “We the sheeple.”

LINKING UFOs TO SOLUTIONS FOR MAJOR PROBLEMS

For the UFO question to have a truly major impact on the mass consciousness, this subject will need to be transformed from an entertaining diversion and become a way of addressing the seemingly insurmountable problems our planet is facing. This is already being attempted by those within the UFO community that discuss the possibility of downloading into our technological culture the secrets of the energy propulsion systems of flying saucers. So-called “free energy” in one fell swoop might eliminate poverty and pollution, possibly even reversing global warming and ending world hunger.

Of course, for the so-called ETs to give us such devices, they might understandably insist on a peaceful transformation of our planet to replace what Ufologist Stanton Friedman called our perpetual state of “tribal warfare.” In the past such a proposition was an impossibly “hard sell” because military and political leaders, the mass media and academia all in service to ruling elites repeatedly insisted, “There is nothing to it.”

HE WHO PAYS THE PIPER CALLS THE TUNE

Clandestine forces determined to keep a lid on the UFO issue have been called “the control groups.” In the past, they employed a strategy of recruiting authority figures to block any significant discussion of flying saucers. Opinion makers that stepped out of line found that their access to funding would be cut off. This was done behind the scenes and has been quite effective in my opinion.

In the USA, the National Academy of Sciences made it perfectly clear that UFO studies are not part of the “legitimate” agenda for professional science. Scientists that stepped out of line could find themselves unable to secure grants thus ending their careers. This has now changed somewhat with the Galileo Project headed by Harvard astrophysicist Avi Loeb. It should be mentioned, however, that Dr. Loeb’s UAP detection project is reportedly supported in such a way so as not to take money from traditional scientific financial backers. Heavens forbid a UAP investigation might divert funding for “real science.”

In broadcast journalism in the past, talk show hosts that might inform the public in a detailed way about flying saucers could find themselves without corporate sponsors. We should not forget that major newspapers are controlled through their editorial boards that in turn are dependent on commercial advertising to continue publishing.

This analysis of the social mechanisms of the “UFO Truth Embargo” is not a conspiracy theory. I merely describe the way power works. In the former Soviet Union, it was the political dictatorship of the Communist Party that attempted to regulate almost every aspect of people’s lives. That social experiment failed miserably. In the West, however, social control is far more sophisticated, decentralized and uses the knowledge of social psychology called “public relations” to effectively manipulate the masses.

RESISTANCE TO CHANGE ALSO COMES FROM WITHIN

On the individual level, our tendency to identify with our thoughts leads to profound attachments to old ideas. This resistance to changing one’s point of view flows from the ego itself. “Ego” in this context means identification with thought forms.  People strive to defend their religion, political ideology, or moral customs to the point where some would even kill to maintain them. Just look at the present situation in Middle East, or at the millions killed centuries ago during the Spanish Inquisition and the Protestant Reformation in Europe.

Something similar in my opinion applies to acknowledging that an “ET” and/or “interdimensional” explanation for the flying saucer phenomenon might be true. Such a realization threatens to radically change the conceptual paradigm of our entire civilization. Since humans so strongly identify with their present beliefs, it is understandable that many reject such a brave new worldview in which we might have to accept a potent non-human presence.

UFO INTELLIGENCE HAS A TIGER BY THE TAIL.

What about the intelligences responsible for flying saucers? Could “they” (whoever they ultimately turn out to be) simply fill the sky with structured craft? Or stage the proverbial “landing on the Whitehouse Lawn?” Such actions would certainly convince the masses that flying saucers are of the greatest importance. In my judgment, this scenario is the least likely to ever take place. Given the militaristic mindset of our civilization, a sudden realization of the reality of UFOs could be catastrophic. My guess is that careful gradual efforts to alert us of their importance is the game plan of both the intelligences responsible for the phenomenon and some elements of the establishment as well. I recommend Grant Cameron’s book “Managing Magic.” He shows how the US Executive Branch has pursued a gradual acclimatization project which runs in parallel to the coverup. 

So, what will it take to change mass public opinion on the flying saucer question? If the alleged “ETs” continue the present pattern of interactions, millions of individual sightings yearly interspersed with occasional massive waves, I imagine that there will be opportunities to slowly build public awareness by a responsible program of education.

RESPONSIBLE PROGRAM OF PUBLIC EDUCATION

This will require UFO enthusiasts to discipline the crazies in our midst, think creatively and most importantly of all build stable, well-financed organizations to carry out the educational campaign. All this will need to be done in opposition to the control groups that have great experience in manipulating public opinion and putting their spin on the limited disclosure efforts that has been going on.

“TURNING PAGES IN A PLAY BOOK”

Can we trust UFO intelligences to follow what we imagine is their existing “game plan” of gradually alerting humanity to their presence? I suppose not. UFO researcher Michael Lindemann once said that we should never assume that we can think like the so-called “aliens.” Nevertheless, the ever-changing pattern of interactions, as pointed out by UFO researcher Grant Cameron, appears to be as if the aliens have been turning the pages of a “play book.” This can be seen by the appearance of “Men in Black” in the 1950s, so called “alien abductions” starting in the 1960s and followed by crop circles reported in Southern England and then all over the world. While all this has been happening, tens of thousands of contact experiencers have described mental interactions with flying saucer intelligences. Many of these individuals are instilled with a sense of mission and are striving to convince their fellow “Earthlings” that we should look up and accept what our eyes are seeing.

In my judgment, UFO intelligences will continue to present us with new and creative ways of waking us up from our collective stupor concerning their “wonders in the sky.” I believe their presence is non-harmful and very likely beneficial for mankind. Bringing others to this hopeful perspective, I imagine, is a challenge that many contact and disclosure activists will continue to face for some time.

Reddit version

What Will it take to Convince People that UFOs are Important?

UFO historian Richard Dolan has described the initial reaction of many people to his passionate involvement with the subject. They express interest, might even describe something they saw on TV concerning the phenomenon, and then after a few minutes of his well-informed explanations, their eyes gloss over and they are clearly bored.

THE ROLE OF AUTHORITY FIGURES

Yes, it’s true; opinion polls indicate the public is interested in UFOs, now officially called UAP. Advertising executives have long known this, but the fascination is for most part quite superficial. Why is this? I suspect that it is because prior to the winter of 2017 most authority figures have essentially said that there’s nothing to it.

After all, the world is terribly complex. Thus, we rely on authorities to use vast amounts of data to make what we hope are reasonable decisions. Most people have little understanding of the technological “miracles” that science has achieved, but they are grateful and trust the devices, like planes, autos and computers to work reliably.

Needing to trust leaders, I suspect, might be built into our psychobiology. For a million years before civilization was established, hunter-gatherers worked in small groups to survive. Shamans that could use primitive psi abilities combined with careful observations of nature played important roles. Leadership was a question of life and death. Those clans that had the best leaders, the shamans that knew how to most best hunt animals, find healing herbs and deliver babies, played critical roles in survival. Thus, most of us have a strong tendency to “follow the leader” and when this becomes extreme, “We the People” run the risk of becoming, “We the sheeple.”

LINKING UFOs TO SOLUTIONS FOR MAJOR PROBLEMS

For the UFO question to have a truly major impact on the mass consciousness, this subject will need to be transformed from an entertaining diversion and become a way of addressing the seemingly insurmountable problems our planet is facing. This is already being attempted by those within the UFO community that discuss the possibility of downloading into our technological culture the secrets of the energy propulsion systems of flying saucers. So-called “free energy” in one fell swoop might eliminate poverty and pollution, possibly even reversing global warming and ending world hunger.

Of course, for the so-called ETs to give us such devices, they might understandably insist on a peaceful transformation of our planet to replace what Ufologist Stanton Friedman called our perpetual state of “tribal warfare.” In the past such a proposition was an impossibly “hard sell” because military and political leaders, the mass media and academia all in service to ruling elites repeatedly insisted, “There is nothing to it.”

HE WHO PAYS THE PIPER CALLS THE TUNE

Clandestine forces determined to keep a lid on the UFO issue have been called “the control groups.” In the past, they employed a strategy of recruiting authority figures to block any significant discussion of flying saucers. Opinion makers that stepped out of line found that their access to funding would be cut off. This was done behind the scenes and has been quite effective in my opinion.

In the USA, the National Academy of Sciences made it perfectly clear that UFO studies are not part of the “legitimate” agenda for professional science. Scientists that stepped out of line could find themselves unable to secure grants thus ending their careers. This has now changed somewhat with the Galileo Project headed by Harvard astrophysicist Avi Loeb. It should be mentioned, however, that Dr. Loeb’s UAP detection project is reportedly supported in such a way so as not to take money from traditional scientific financial backers. Heavens forbid a UAP investigation might divert funding for “real science.”

In broadcast journalism in the past, talk show hosts that might inform the public in a detailed way about flying saucers could find themselves without corporate sponsors. We should not forget that major newspapers are controlled through their editorial boards that in turn are dependent on commercial advertising to continue publishing.

This analysis of the social mechanisms of the “UFO Truth Embargo” is not a conspiracy theory. I merely describe the way power works. In the former Soviet Union, it was the political dictatorship of the Communist Party that attempted to regulate almost every aspect of people’s lives. That social experiment failed miserably. In the West, however, social control is far more sophisticated, decentralized and uses the knowledge of social psychology called “public relations” to effectively manipulate the masses.

RESISTANCE TO CHANGE ALSO COMES FROM WITHIN

On the individual level, our tendency to identify with our thoughts leads to profound attachments to old ideas. This resistance to changing one’s point of view flows from the ego itself. “Ego” in this context means identification with thought forms.  People strive to defend their religion, political ideology, or moral customs to the point where some would even kill to maintain them. Just look at the present situation in Middle East, or at the millions killed centuries ago during the Spanish Inquisition and the Protestant Reformation in Europe.

Something similar in my opinion applies to acknowledging that an “ET” and/or “interdimensional” explanation for the flying saucer phenomenon might be true. Such a realization threatens to radically change the conceptual paradigm of our entire civilization. Since humans so strongly identify with their present beliefs, it is understandable that many reject such a brave new worldview in which we might have to accept a potent non-human presence.

UFO INTELLIGENCE HAS A TIGER BY THE TAIL.

What about the intelligences responsible for flying saucers? Could “they” (whoever they ultimately turn out to be) simply fill the sky with structured craft? Or stage the proverbial “landing on the Whitehouse Lawn?” Such actions would certainly convince the masses that flying saucers are of the greatest importance. In my judgment, this scenario is the least likely to ever take place. Given the militaristic mindset of our civilization, a sudden realization of the reality of UFOs could be catastrophic. My guess is that careful gradual efforts to alert us of their importance is the game plan of both the intelligences responsible for the phenomenon and some elements of the establishment as well. I recommend Grant Cameron’s book “Managing Magic.” He shows how the US Executive Branch has pursued a gradual acclimatization project which runs in parallel to the coverup. 

So, what will it take to change mass public opinion on the flying saucer question? If the alleged “ETs” continue the present pattern of interactions, millions of individual sightings yearly interspersed with occasional massive waves, I imagine that there will be opportunities to slowly build public awareness by a responsible program of education.

RESPONSIBLE PROGRAM OF PUBLIC EDUCATION

This will require UFO enthusiasts to discipline the crazies in our midst, think creatively and most importantly of all build stable, well-financed organizations to carry out the educational campaign. All this will need to be done in opposition to the control groups that have great experience in manipulating public opinion and putting their spin on the limited disclosure efforts that has been going on.

“TURNING PAGES IN A PLAY BOOK”

Can we trust UFO intelligences to follow what we imagine is their existing “game plan” of gradually alerting humanity to their presence? I suppose not. UFO researcher Michael Lindemann once said that we should never assume that we can think like the so-called “aliens.” Nevertheless, the ever-changing pattern of interactions, as pointed out by UFO researcher Grant Cameron, appears to be as if the aliens have been turning the pages of a “play book.” This can be seen by the appearance of “Men in Black” in the 1950s, so called “alien abductions” starting in the 1960s and followed by crop circles reported in Southern England and then all over the world. While all this has been happening, tens of thousands of contact experiencers have described mental interactions with flying saucer intelligences. Many of these individuals are instilled with a sense of mission and are striving to convince their fellow “Earthlings” that we should look up and accept what our eyes are seeing.

In my judgment, UFO intelligences will continue to present us with new and creative ways of waking us up from our collective stupor concerning their “wonders in the sky.” I believe their presence is non-harmful and very likely beneficial for mankind. Bringing others to this hopeful perspective, I imagine, is a challenge that many contact and disclosure activists will continue to face for some time.

 

 

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u/Contactunderground — 1 day ago
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Dr. Jacques Vallee is Skeptical of the ET Explanation for UFOs: All those with a Serious Interest in this Subject Should Study his Detailed Investigations. “There is probably no more influential thinker in the study of UFOs than the French astronomer and computer scientist Jacques Vallee.”

Dr. Jacques Vallee is Skeptical of the ET Explanation for UFOs: All those with a Serious Interest in this Subject Should Study his Detailed Investigations.

“There is probably no more influential thinker in the study of UFOs than the French astronomer and computer scientist Jacques Vallee.”

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lmLE0X5FRFc&t=342s

Thus, starts this excellent short YouTube documentary linked above, Jacques Vallee, UFOs and the Case against Extraterrestrial Origins produced by Think Anomalous in 2022. Dr. Jacques Vallee early in his career was a proponent of the ET Hypothesis (ETH) as explanation for UFOs. However, after years of speaking to UFO witnesses and discussing the cases with an informal group of scientists that he called “The Invisible College”, Vallee concluded the following: the proposition that UFOs were controlled by ET beings was too simplistic. 
In my opinion, contact experiencers and activists should also be skeptical of  ET origin as the exclusive explanation for UFOs and the non-human beings associated with them. This is especially so given the larger society is starting to acknowledge the reality and importance of what are now called UAP. Although the current emphasis is on sighting reports, eventually societal discussions will not be able to ignore the stories of contact and communications with the non-human intelligences associated with flying saucers. 

As one who supports the staging of Human Initiated Contact Events (HICE) popularly known as CE-5s, it is crucially important that contact activists have at their disposal the most accurate assessments of what is truly going on. The thoughtful analyses of a brilliant thinker such as Dr. Jacques Vallee should guide our investigations into UFOs and associated paranormal phenomena. These have been called “The Contact Modalities.” This is term coined by author Rey Hernandez, who believes that UFOs, out of body, and near-death experiences as well as other paranormal events should be studied as related phenomena characterized by manipulations of spacetime within a matrix of consciousness. In my judgment, by having a nuanced and sophisticated approach to flying saucers, contact and disclosure activists, as well as all those who have a strong interest in this topic, will be able to share their knowledge most effectively with the larger society. 
An important factor that contributed to Vallee rejecting the ET Hypothesis is that encounters were associated with a multitude of what are considered paranormal phenomena like poltergeists and apparitions. Many of the reports often included absurd elements and behaviors exhibited by the “ufonauts” that Vallee deemed were not consistent with their being highly advanced ET visitors with sophisticated technologies. The seemingly nonsensical behaviors of the so-called aliens seemed so contrived that he suspected they were designed to display certain images. Those visual displays were associated with profound psychological transformations in many witnesses and over time have had an effect of society in general. Perhaps the most important effect was to promote a belief in extraterrestrial visitations.

In the documentary, producer Jason Charboneau lists Vallee’s reasons for challenging the ET Hypothesis. These appeared in an article Vallee published in 1990 in The Journal of Scientific Exploration. 

“First: he argued that there were far more landings and contacts than would be necessary for an interplanetary survey or surveillance operation. By his and others estimates there must have been 3 million UFO landings around the world in the last 20 years, an impossibly large number.

Second: UFOs and ufonauts rarely flew away or walked off. When they left, often they simply vanished blinked out of existence or slowly faded away. This suggests that the craft and occupants were more like projections than physical things.

Third: the bodies, actions, and the abilities of the ufonauts do not suggest an extraterrestrial or evolutionary origin. Often the aliens were identical to humans, spoke our languages and were perfectly capable of breathing our air and walking in our gravity.

Fourth: Vallee noted that most of the ufonauts revelations, especially those concerning their origins were nonsense and almost entirely different from one another. Ufonauts claimed to be from just about everywhere in the universe and frequently gave directions or offered maps that made no logical sense such as the two-dimensional star map shown to Betty Hill.

Fifth: finally, Vallee argued that the data collected from cases of so-called alien abduction were unreliable and again involved highly unlikely scenarios. For example, abductees frequently describe highly invasive and painful medical procedures in order to achieve tasks that even doctors in the 1980s could have done with minimal discomfort.”

The Think Anomalous team has produced many excellent short documentaries and I encourage everyone to view and share widely this important resource.  

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Are Human Appearing “ETs” Operating on Earth? A “Contact Download” suggested to me that perhaps they are.There is a fascinating literature about human appearing ETs living among us. I even thought I might have met one at the Los Angeles International Airport

Are Human Appearing “ETs” Operating on Earth? A “Contact Download” suggested to me that perhaps they are.There is a fascinating literature about human appearing ETs living among us. I even thought I might have met one at the Los Angeles International Airport when I took Dr. Greer there in February of 1994. This was before Ingo Swann published “Penetration." In that book Swann describes meeting a beautiful humanoid ET being pursued by shadowy black ops types that were monitoring her activities. The man allegedly in charge of the surveillance was the mysterious intelligence official called "Mr. Axelrod." If I recall correctly, he described her as "one of the most dangerous people on the planet."

Two months before taking Dr. Greer to the LAX, the CSETI leader met with CIA Director Woolsey in December of 1993. The day after the meeting I experienced "an awake dream." I believe this might also be called a “contact download.” I had the experience while I was in my on-call room near the emergency room. After an overnight shift, I needed to get some rest before I hit the 405 Freeway that would take me home. I did not fall asleep, however. The “download” was like watching a movie in my mind. It was so detailed, so intense, that I cannot totally convince myself it was merely my imagination. Even though I was part of the CSETI leadership, the details of the meeting with the CIA Director were highly confidential. I was only told that the Dr. Greer would be meeting in Washington with a " very highly placed government official." 

In the "awake dream" that I experienced in my on-call room, I was shown three different ETs that were supposedly highly specialized in various aspects of interacting with humans. The experience was like a tutorial and was given by rather tall ET with grayish skin who served as “my instructor.” 

He had on a very high collar that reached up to the back of his head. It reminded me of a priest’s ceremonial garb. I called him “MM” for “Middle Management.” He stood in a lecture hall behind a desk. Behind him was a large jet-black viewing screen that reminded me of the chalk boards used in colleges. We had a telepathic exchange in which I suggested that since I was a CE-5 Working Group Coordinator and he coordinated some aspect of contact operations that we were sort of like “colleagues.” His reply was forceful and swift. He left me with the impression that in no way was I an equal in my capacities and responsibilities compared to his position. 

In one part of the "download" I found myself at the entrance to the main terminal at Washington National Airport. It was early evening, cold and with a light snow in the air. The phone booths on the sidewalk were the glass-walled cubicle type so popular prior to the 1970s.

A short, somewhat husky brunette, dressed in a Navy-blue stewardess’ uniform was walking quickly toward a phone booth. I noticed that she wore silver wings on her heavy wool overcoat indicating some kind of company insignia. The cold wind tussled her short brown hair that peeked out from under her blue cap. Behind her she pulled a wheeled luggage bag. Inside her overcoat in the inner pocket, I could actually “see” her travel documents. Passport, tickets, and visas, they seemed to be “in order.” There was just one catch. The documents were all phony! I understood at the level of knowledge that she was not working for an airline. She was not a stewardess. In fact she was not even human! And she was not alone on her mission. 

My “ET mentor”, who I called MM, “explained” to me that her assignment was a highly specialized security mission. As she stepped into the glass-enclosed phone booth and closed the door behind her, I thought that if she were supposed to be one of the so-called Pleiadean or Nordic types of ETs then somehow, she had short changed. According to UFO subculture mythology, as a Nordic ET she was supposed to be a striking beauty; tall and slender with long hair was the stereotype that I was accustomed to. This woman in the phone booth appeared quite physically fit (an appropriate attribute for a member of a security detail) but she was not tall and not pretty.

As I looked at the stocky “stewardess” inside the telephone booth, the marked contrast between my preconception and what I was “seeing” was bewildering. MM must have sensed my confusion and his explanation was simple and direct. I was made to understand that for security missions like this one at Washington National, operatives were required to alter their typical appearance. Elegant beauties in scanty shimmering garb would not blend in at a chilly airport-loading zone.

All these thoughts and images flashed before me in an instant. I watched the female security agent enter the phone booth. She left her wheeled luggage on the pavement outside. She removed the receiver as if she were making a phone call. Instead, she linked up telepathically to a co-worker in the security assignment.

His appearance was as striking as hers was plain. This physically powerful man was clearly the enforcer. His muscular form looked like it was ready to explode out of his double-breasted, gray-colored oversized trench coat. This agent was stationed inside the terminal several hundred feet away from her. 

He stood in one of the small drab waiting areas that made the old airport look like it had fallen on hard times. He was clearly playing the role of a passenger waiting for a flight, pacing back and forth and impatiently looking at his watch. At the level of knowledge, I understood that he was carefully monitoring a complex security situation at the main terminal. 

The thought occurred to me that he was some kind of bodyguard and that he was waiting to meet someone important at the airport. I strongly suspected that he was armed and perfectly capable of using force if necessary. It seemed however that he also possessed the sophisticated psi capabilities that one might expect from an “ET intelligence officer” of an advanced civilization.

Subtle parapsychological methods were his preferred defensive weapons. If enemy agents threatened whomever he was protecting, then he could telepathically arrange for the opposition to suddenly be distracted, thus allowing the target of their surveillance to slip by unnoticed.

Who could be the person that he was supposed to protect? Why was I “seeing” in my mind this little drama at the Washington Airport? 

I didn’t focus on these questions while I subjectively acquired this material. I was more excited about the prospect that this entire channeling experience was not merely the result of my imagination and that it represented bona fide interspecies communication. Thus concluded this “awake dream.”

After getting home from the hospital, I was eager to share my experience with trusted contact workers. I decided to call Shari Adamiak, Working Group Coordinator for CSETI Denver. She was in my opinion the third most important person in Dr. Greer’s organization, after the Director and Emily Greer.  Just before I spoke to Shari, while half giddy from sleep deprivation from an overnight on duty, it suddenly hit me like a bombshell. The individual that MM’s “Pleiadean friends” were assigned to protect must have been none other than CSETI founder Dr. Steven Greer! 

 Just the day before he had been scheduled to meet with a “high government official” that turned out to be CIA Director Woolsey. Flying in from North Carolina, Dr. Greer would have landed at National Airport. If some MJ-12 like organization had wanted to place a tail on him or carry out some other mischief, Washington National was the best place to intercept the CSETI Director. Although it seemed like a long shot, I couldn’t ignore the possibility that Dr. Greer was being protected by “the ETs” as I was shown. Even if the narrative were pure ego-based fantasy it still was quite a story for me to receive in such a novel way. This is particularly true because over three decades of pro-contact advocacy, I can only recall having one dream with a flying saucer theme. 

Two months later after a brief visit to Los Angeles to meet with potential donors, I drove the CSETI Director to Los Angeles International Airport. While in the waiting area with him, I recalled my “awake dream” that was set at Washington National, now called Ronald Reagan International Airport. I couldn’t help but wonder whether it was possible that human appearing ETs might be at LAX to provide “back up” for Dr. Greer. 

 I realized that such a notion was likely just fantasy. As I had these thoughts, however, I noticed a rather unremarkable airline steward looking at me rather nonchalantly. He was about five foot seven, with brown curly hair and a round face. There was nothing unusual about him. I wondered if it were possible that he might be part of an “ET security team.” As I had this thought, our eyes met and he nodded to me. I realized that his gesture was likely nothing more than just a polite way of acknowledging a total stranger in a public setting. Or could it have been something else? I quickly turned away. I bid Dr. Greer farewell and he boarded the plane that took him home to Asheville North Carolina.  

The idea that extraterrestrials are living among us is a popular science fiction theme that conceivably is more than just fantasy. In 2015 prominent UFO historian Richard Dolan was interviewed Alexis Brooks “Higher Journeys” podcast. Their discussion focused on reports of human appearing extraterrestrials among us. 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JbVyST3W9s0

REQUEST TO THE READER: If you are an experiencer and have received the kind of “contact download” described in the above narrative, please share that information on these social media pages. 

Comments:

J. Burkes MD: It is hard to know how much of this download is accurate. It could all be a legend created to reassure me and others via my writing that we are being protected in the manner I describe. I believe there is protection afforded to contact workers, I am just not certain if it takes this dramatic form. 

Name Deleted: MM was very superior to you? was there a feeling of condescension? J. 

Burkes MD: Yes, I suppose there was, but given my low level of spiritual development and my primitive thinking it might have been justified. I imagine I was dealing with a very high-powered individual that clearly was helping us, but in no way was he my equal. A seasoned UFO Intel “case officer” running dozens of operations simultaneously would not surprisingly see me as a useful asset, but in no way was near his rank as "colleagues" might be.

(Name Deleted): I had a "contact download" on 12/12/12 that lasted 36 continuous hours. This was the beginning of my conscious relationship with the Star Beings. I was trying to fall asleep on the night of 12/12/12, and as soon as I closed my eyes, I began seeing a slide show in my mind. Image after image of mathematical formulas, apocalyptic images of nuclear bomb blasts, flattened cities, etc. were being downloaded into my mind.

Then more and more mathematical formulas. It looked like hundreds of chalkboards of formulas were being downloaded into my mind. I was reminded of the kind of slide show that my family would watch of vacation pictures as a kid. Only these sure weren't family slides. This lasted the entire night and I did not get a wink of sleep. The next day, every time I closed my eyes the slides would start again. Fast forward to the night of 12/13/12, I lay down, quite exhausted, and closed my eyes and as soon as I did, the slide show images began again. 

Sometime in the middle of the night, I finally asked out loud (and didn't even know who I was asking) "What is going on, and why am I seeing all this? I can't remember any of these mathematical formulas!". (This is significant because I have never had a strong "math mind", and really struggled in college with physics and calculus.) I heard a voice say to me, "You don't need to remember these or even know what this means now, but it will be there when you need it." 

Many more advanced psychic and intuitive skills began developing after this experience, including remote viewing and telepathic communications with ET's, non-physical and inter-dimensional beings.

Kevin Briggs: Hi Joseph Burkes.
That is a very interesting experience. I have not had that particular experience. However a few years ago, not certain of the exact date until I check my notes. I was given information for Dr Greer from two ETs. I do not know Dr Greer and have never met him. I was travelling out of my body on the astral plane.

I was approached by two ETs who have interacted with me from the age of eight. They were travelling in a conscious craft. I was invited aboard. As I entered the craft, I noticed the skin of the craft was conscious. The two ETs were in the craft as pure conscious energy, as I was. They asked me if I would convey a message to Dr Greer, I said I would.

The message was that he should change his itinerary for a specific date as he was in danger. He was not to tell anyone that he was changing his itinerary. I left the craft and returned to my body. I woke up and wrote the message down so I would not forget. I went back to sleep. 

When I woke in the morning, I looked at the note and said I am not doing that. I threw the note in the trash. I thought that would be the end of it.
However when I went to bed that night the same two ETs entered as a dream.  They said it was important I conveyed the message if I did not then Dr Greer would die on that day. I did convey the message although I only informed him he was in some danger and needed to change his itinerary for the particular date. I conveyed the message via a third party, I received confirmation from Dr Greer. I have not had any contact with Dr Greer before or since. There is a more detailed account in my book, but I omitted Dr Greers name.

I am sure the third party and Dr Greer would confirm. I have copies of my emails.

Joseph Burkes MD: Thank you for sharing this information.

Name Deleted: Cool story. I am very suspicious of anything Greer related. But I believe the story.

Joseph Burkes MD: It might be helpful to think of the CSETI Director as a kind of "agent of influence" working with both certain non-human intelligences and factions of the military industrial intelligence complex that are pushing for more openness on this topic. Being an asset in the intelligence counterintelligence drama does not require any individual to be a paragon of virtue. In fact being "ethically challenged" could be helpful when dealing with professional human intelligence case officers who routinely lie, cheat, deceive, coerce and if necessary, betray people when serving their nation under the most stressful conditions.

I was close to the CSETI Director for three years starting in 1992 and I saw how hard "UFO Intelligence "worked him." He was having direct telepathic communication on a regular basis. Astounding synchronicities occurred helping his operations. These included not only facilitating the formation of contact teams to engage UFO Intel under fieldwork conditions, (not an easy task I assure you as a CE-5 Woking Group Coordinator), but also meeting with an array of Executive Branch intelligence groups as part of the President's "gradual acclimatization program" that Grant Cameron has written about in his book “Managing Magic.”

u/Contactunderground — 8 days ago

ET “Party Monsters”: Prolonged Interactive Encounter in the Queen Valley. This in-depth report is based on my detailed CE-5 field notes for an encounter in Joshua Tree on November 11, 1993. A co-worker from our medical center and I interacted with two UFOs for over an hour and a half.

My notes describing this encounter were shared with other CE-5 contact teams. I reconstructed my conversations with co-worker “Misha” to give this narrative a sense of immediacy.  This story is not a work of fiction. 

I did fieldwork with “Misha” from 1993 to 1997. Based on my experiences with him and the founder of the Center for the Study of ET Intelligence (CSETI) Steven Greer MD, I formulated the category of “prime contactee.” These are contact experiencers who have some of the following characteristics:

  1. They have frequent encounters with UFO intelligence, usually starting in childhood or adolescence.

  2. As youths they may become skilled meditators, typically without any apparent adult encouragement or supervision.

  3. “Primes” have strong psychic abilities that facilitate contact and communication with UAP intelligences. 

  4. Most importantly they serve as a kind of human UFO magnet in that they can request UFO contacts with other witnesses are present. When subsequent sightings occur, these witnesses can verify the “prime’s special relationship with non-human intelligences associated UFOs.

 

 The term “prime contactee” describes experiencers who function in a similar fashion to individuals described as “psionic assets.” Psionic assets are psi capable operatives who allegedly are employed in UFO retrieval and reverse engineering programs because of their presumed ability to attract or “summon” UFOs. to them. 

 All the prime contactees that I became aware of during my field investigations were men, with possibly one exception. She was a volunteer contact worker originally from the UK. I did fieldwork with “Tracy Travis” in the summer of 1997. A link to that detailed report is posted below.  

Introduction:

During the last week of October 1993, I made plans to lead a team of UFO investigators into the high desert. After numerous phone calls I was still unable to get more than two other investigators to promise to accompany me. For 16 months I had been a Working Group Coordinator for CSETI’s CE-5 Initiative. My original team was beginning to show clear signs of fatigue. The group had carried out almost two-dozen research outings, many of which had documented the appearance of anomalous nocturnal lights. On rare occasions other teams in the CE-5 network even had sightings of structured craft that were definite unknowns. In another words, bona fide UFOs had appeared at our research sites.

For the full report the link below is provided:

https://www.reddit.com/user/Contactunderground/comments/1vj36an/et_party_monsters_prolonged_interactive_encounter/

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u/Contactunderground — 11 days ago

ET “Party Monsters”: Prolonged Interactive Encounter in the Queen Valley. This in-depth report is based on my detailed CE-5 field notes for an encounter in Joshua Tree on November 11, 1993

ET “Party Monsters”: Prolonged Interactive Encounter in the 

Queen Valley.  

This in-depth report is based on my detailed CE-5 fieldnotes for an encounter in Joshua Tree on November 11, 1993. A co-worker from our medical center and I interacted with two UFOs for over an hour and a half. My notes describing this encounter were shared with other CE-5 contact teams. I reconstructed my conversations with co-worker “Misha” to give this narrative a sense of immediacy.  This story is not a work of fiction. 

I did fieldwork with “Misha” from 1993 to 1997. Based on my experiences with him and the founder of the Center for the Study of ET Intelligence (CSETI) Steven Greer MD, I formulated the category of “prime contactee.” These are contact experiencers who have some of the following characteristics:

  1. They have frequent encounters with UFO intelligence, usually starting in childhood or adolescence.
  2. As youths they may become skilled meditators, typically without any apparent adult encouragement or supervision.
  3. “Primes” have strong psychic abilities that facilitate contact and communication with UAP intelligences. 
  4. Most importantly they serve as a kind of human UFO magnet in that they can request UFO contacts with other witnesses are present. When subsequent sightings occur, these witnesses can verify the “prime’s special relationship with non-human intelligences associated UFOs.

 

 The term “prime contactee” describes experiencers who function in a similar fashion to individuals described as “psionic assets.” Psionic assets are psi capable operatives who allegedly are employed in UFO retrieval and reverse engineering programs because of their presumed ability to attract or “summon” UFOs. to them. 

 All the prime contactees that I became aware of during my field investigations were men, with possibly one exception. She was a volunteer contact worker originally from the UK. I did fieldwork with “Tracy Travis” in the summer of 1997. A link to that detailed report is posted below.  

Introduction:

During the last week of October 1993, I made plans to lead a team of UFO investigators into the high desert. After numerous phone calls I was still unable to get more than two other investigators to promise to accompany me. For 16 months I had been a Working Group Coordinator for CSETI’s CE-5 Initiative. My original team was beginning to show clear signs of fatigue. The group had carried out almost two-dozen research outings, many of which had documented the appearance of anomalous nocturnal lights. On rare occasions other teams in the CE-5 network even had sightings of structured craft that were definite unknowns. In another words, bona fide UFOs had appeared at our research sites.

For the full report the link below is provided:

https://www.reddit.com/user/Contactunderground/comments/1vj36an/et_party_monsters_prolonged_interactive_encounter/

reddit.com
u/Contactunderground — 11 days ago
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ET “Party Monsters”: Prolonged Interactive Encounter in the Queen Valley. This in-depth report is based on my detailed CE-5 field notes for an encounter in Joshua Tree on November 11, 1993. Serious

My notes describing this encounter were shared with other CE-5 contact teams. I reconstructed my conversations with co-worker “Misha” to give this narrative a sense of immediacy.  This story is not a work of fiction. 

I did fieldwork with “Misha” from 1993 to 1997. Based on my experiences with him and the founder of the Center for the Study of ET Intelligence (CSETI) Steven Greer MD, I formulated the category of “prime contactee.” These are contact experiencers who have some of the following characteristics:

  1. They have frequent encounters with UFO intelligence, usually starting in childhood or adolescence.
  2. As youths they may become skilled meditators, typically without any apparent adult encouragement or supervision.
  3. “Primes” have strong psychic abilities that facilitate contact and communication with UAP intelligences. 
  4. Most importantly they serve as a kind of human UFO magnet in that they can request UFO contacts with other witnesses are present. When subsequent sightings occur, these witnesses can verify the “prime’s special relationship with non-human intelligences associated UFOs.

 

 The term “prime contactee” describes experiencers who function in a similar fashion to individuals described as “psionic assets.” Psionic assets are psi capable operatives who allegedly are employed in UFO retrieval and reverse engineering programs because of their presumed ability to attract or “summon” UFOs. to them. 

 All the prime contactees that I became aware of during my field investigations were men, with possibly one exception. She was a volunteer contact worker originally from the UK. I did fieldwork with “Tracy Travis” in the summer of 1997. A link to that detailed report is posted below.  

Introduction:

During the last week of October 1993, I made plans to lead a team of UFO investigators into the high desert. After numerous phone calls I was still unable to get more than two other investigators to promise to accompany me. For 16 months I had been a Working Group Coordinator for CSETI’s CE-5 Initiative. My original team was beginning to show clear signs of fatigue. The group had carried out almost two-dozen research outings, many of which had documented the appearance of anomalous nocturnal lights. On rare occasions other teams in the CE-5 network even had sightings of structured craft that were definite unknowns. In another words, bona fide UFOs had appeared at our research sites.

For the full report the link below is provided:

https://www.reddit.com/user/Contactunderground/comments/1vj36an/et_party_monsters_prolonged_interactive_encounter/

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u/Contactunderground — 11 days ago

ET “Party Monsters”: Prolonged Interactive Encounter in the Queen Valley. This in-depth report is based on my detailed CE-5 fieldnotes for an encounter in Joshua Tree on November 11, 1993. A co-worker from our medical center and I interacted with two UFOs for over an hour and a half.

ET “Party Monsters”: Prolonged Interactive Encounter in the 

Queen Valley.  

This in-depth report is based on my detailed CE-5 fieldnotes for an encounter in Joshua Tree on November 11, 1993. A co-worker from our medical center and I interacted with two UFOs for over an hour and a half. My notes describing this encounter were shared with other CE-5 contact teams. I reconstructed my conversations with co-worker “Misha” to give this narrative a sense of immediacy.  This story is not a work of fiction. 

I did fieldwork with “Misha” from 1993 to 1997. Based on my experiences with him and the founder of the Center for the Study of ET Intelligence (CSETI) Steven Greer MD, I formulated the category of “prime contactee.” These are contact experiencers who have some of the following characteristics:

  1. They have frequent encounters with UFO intelligence, usually starting in childhood or adolescence.
  2. As youths they may become skilled meditators, typically without any apparent adult encouragement or supervision.
  3. “Primes” have strong psychic abilities that facilitate contact and communication with UAP intelligences. 
  4. Most importantly they serve as a kind of human UFO magnet in that they can request UFO contacts with other witnesses are present. When subsequent sightings occur, these witnesses can verify the “prime’s special relationship with non-human intelligences associated UFOs.

 

 The term “prime contactee” describes experiencers who function in a similar fashion to individuals described as “psionic assets.” Psionic assets are psi capable operatives who allegedly are employed in UFO retrieval and reverse engineering programs because of their resumed ability to attract or “summon” UFOs. to them. 

 All the prime contactees that I became aware of during my field investigations were men, with possibly one exception. She was a volunteer contact worker originally from the UK. I did fieldwork with “Tracy Travis” in the summer of 1997. A link to that detailed report is posted below.  

Introduction:

During the last week of October 1993, I made plans to lead a team of UFO investigators into the high desert. After numerous phone calls I was still unable to get more than two other investigators to promise to accompany me. For 16 months I had been a Working Group Coordinator for CSETI’s CE-5 Initiative. My original team was beginning to show clear signs of fatigue. The group had carried out almost two-dozen research outings, many of which had documented the appearance of anomalous nocturnal lights. On rare occasions other teams in the CE-5 network even had sightings of structured craft that were definite unknowns. In another words, bona fide UFOs had appeared at our research sites.

For the full report the link below is provided:

https://www.reddit.com/user/Contactunderground/comments/1vj36an/et_party_monsters_prolonged_interactive_encounter/

reddit.com
u/Contactunderground — 11 days ago
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PSYCHOLOGICAL WARFARE AGAINST A UFO REPORTER: Originally published over three decades ago, this disturbing narrative describes an investigative reporter’s odyssey into the bizarre world of orchestrated deception by psychological warfare agents.

My friend Ralph Steiner was the target of an elaborate hoax in which he was supplied disinformation. He stated that,

“If I had gone public with my “findings” at the time, my credibility as a journalist would have been destroyed, my career as a producer ruined, my marriage and family demolished, my friendships cancelled. I would have gained a reputation for insanity…Unwittingly, I would have become one of the disinformers.”

PSYCHOLOGICAL WARFARE AGAINST A UFO REPORTER. 

Introduction: The speculative term the “control groups” refers to those alleged powerful corporate/governmental forces working behind the scenes to keep a lid on the UFO situation. Historically they have also been called MJ-12 or Majestic-12. Former Department of Defense insiders like David Grusch and Luis Elizondo have acknowledged that such a group exists. Furthermore, these former Department of Defense officials have confirmed that the American people have been targeted for a sophisticated psychological warfare program as part of a corporate and US Executive Branch coverup.  

Within this coverup campaign, it is postulated that the control groups hire private intelligence contractors to conduct surveillance of UFO witnesses and groups. It appears that they can go beyond surveillance as this report outlines in detail. It involved contact activist Ralph Steiner. Back in the 1990s he worked as a KPFA Berkeley radio journalist and was targeted for a host of dirty tricks to disrupt his UFO related investigations. 

His important article for several years was not available on the web and so I have posted it again with his permission.

Joseph Burkes MD 2026
https://contactunderground.org/2024/09/13/psychological-warfare-against-a-ufo-reporter-an-expose-by-ralph-steiner-2/

u/Contactunderground — 15 days ago

Contact Network History Project: Questions and Answers: I have reposted a Q&A exchange from a decade ago that still may have relevance. Topics covered include: 1.telepathic overrides alerting me to the programmed appearance of UFOs at our research sites.

2.Surveillance/harassment of my volunteer effort 

3.The existence of a possible “ET Masterplan” for Earth Civilization

 4.Militarization of space in response to a possible “ET” presence.
On one social media page, I was asked about what races of ETs I might have had physical or mental connections with, also if I have ever had any interactions with MIBs. These questions give me a chance to review my contact activities over the years.
When it comes to meeting beings, there are no recollections of face-to-face encounters with them physically. However, during the five-year period of volunteering as a CE-5 coordinator back in the 1990s, I had dozens of sightings of UFOs. On two separate occasions I experienced what the CSETI Director called “telepathic overrides” during fieldwork with my Los Angeles based contact team. In each I received advance notification telling me when UFOs were going to show up later those nights. I also learned the number of craft that would be involved and their locations of their appearances in the sky. I immediately shared the info with my co-workers as suggested by the contact protocols. As "predicted" the UFOs subsequently showed up as I had been notified.
Along with these verifiable events I had many "contact downloads” during a two-year period 1993 to 1995. In a kind of stereotypic "awake dream state" I received much abstract information plus visual impressions. It was like watching a movie in your head. Most of narratives involved so-called "Grays" although a few “Nordics" appeared in one of these experiences. I look at these anomalous occurrences as a form of channeling. All those experiences while very Interesting to me personally were totally unverifiable except for the two "heads up" messages I describe above.
The themes of these mental encounters were basically instructional in nature. At the level of mind, I was allowed to view or actually "meet" specific "ETs" that lectured me about various contact themes such as, why they are here, and what are their capabilities. I also “downloaded” the typical contactee fare about an “ET master plan" that allegedly has been unfolding here on Earth for some time.
No MIB encounters but there was telephone harassment. Once it happened before going out into the field. The strange calls to my home lasted for about a week. The phone would ring, but nobody was on the line when my wife or I picked up. Every hour on the hour the phone rang during 9 to 5 business hours. I assume that whoever they were that they were sending a sort of message like, "We know who you are and what you are doing.” Then during the subsequent fieldwork investigation in Joshua Tree my team was photographed by what appeared to be military intelligence or private contractors.
In the summer of 1997, I received threatening phone calls from what appeared to be private contract agents. One was able to describe my CSETI activities in detail. This rude rather aggressive individual told me, "It would be better for you if you got out of CSETI."
Maybe I will put it all together in a book someday as I am retired from my medical career, till then I will post articles to my blog site at Wordpress.
Additional Questions and Answers
1.What about the “ET master plan” that you mentioned, and about the assumption that there are many different motivations for different ET groups?
Joseph Burkes‪: I assume no such thing. After resigning from CSETI in 1998, I took a critical look at the UFO subculture that I had been so active in. I read the works of John Keel and Dr Vallee. I concluded that the although the ET hypothesis might be true, the UFO phenomenon was far more complicated than the simplistic view describing "good or bad aliens" from different groups operating here on Earth.
This new perspective was not an easy thing for me accept. After all, I had contributed thousands of hours of volunteer work doing contact related activities. I imagined that we in the contact network were attempting to reach out to spiritually and technologically advanced ETs. While I was closely associated with Dr Greer, I raised money for CSETI, did media events but the best thing was that I got to be contact team leader. In that capacity I had an opportunity to be part of a collective of determined UFO investigators that were driven to engage the phenomenon with high ideals for what we hoped was peaceful communication leading to a more open and mutually beneficial relationship.
I suggest all UFO truth seekers get a hold of Colin Wilson's book "Alien Dawn" that provides an excellent summary of the theories of those two greats of UFO research, John Keel and Dr Vallee. Keel's work should be understood to be a product of a time 50 years ago when much important testimony confirming the probable ET nature of some UFO related phenomena had not been investigated yet. I am talking about the Roswell incident and the release of government documents in the 1970s and 1980s showing very forceful governments efforts maintaining a cover up.
As far as the so-called "master plan", I will continue to post blogs on this and related topics. I re-circulate some posts on a yearly basis.
2. What did you do when you received the threatening phone calls?
Joseph Burkes‪: Thanks for the question but the answer is not a pretty story, and it is difficult for me to share. The threat I received contributed to my resigning from CSETI under very unpleasant circumstances. I might work up the courage to share on social media my narrative that goes into the circumstances of my resignation from CSETI but I am tired of the ugly personal aspects of UFO politics. Sharing it, however, might be instructive for future generations of activists trying to avoid pitfalls of past organizing efforts. 
3. Another commenter expressed surprise about my having contact downloads with “Gray and Nordic” types. Also why did I refer to my contact downloads as being “totally unverifiable.”
Joseph Burkes: Sure, it was great to have "downloads." I wanted them to go on forever, but after a few months they just petered out. I suspect that I could have meditated upside down chanting to try and get them to come back, but it would be to no avail. My fellow CE-5 Working Group Coordinator Wayne Peterson who headed the Phoenix team summed my contact downloads in the following way. He said that the ETs gave you a course, something like “Channeling 101.” As if to say, “Joseph, you can do this.” Once the course was over there was no need to continue it.
I repeat only two contact downloads could be verified because they accurately predicted the subsequent appearance of UFOs that were multiply witnessed. The contact network has been instructed to work in groups, so my co-workers were able to verify the accuracy of the “heads up.” The detailed “awake dreams” that contained much abstract concepts as well as details about the alleged ET groups working here were like watching a sci-fi series with my mind’s eyes. They were very entertaining but  almost totally unverifiable. 

I should point out that when I use the term “Contact Underground” I am not just referring to CE-5ers, or what is left of the Peruvian Rama started in 1974 now called Rahma, but more importantly to the many, perhaps hundreds of contact workers that are “flying below the radar” as the result of their being deliberately warned not to associate with more public, less secretive groups.
I am hopeful that over generations, perhaps it will be centuries, we will establish on this planet of so much greed, cruelty and pain a new kind of just and peaceful civilization. I imagine that full contact can only be achieved in a world based on peace and social/environmental justice. At that moment in our civilization’s history, whatever are the origins of UFO intelligences, (ET? interdimensional? or their being time travelers?) perhaps then they might be willing to level with us as to who they truly are.
According to my analysis, with terrestrial elites opposing contact, to reveal publicly in detail the actual " master plan" (if such a thing exists) would be foolish. Only after a protracted period of social action and spiritual transformation will humanity be able to grasp and support any kind of “masterplan” for Earth civilization.
I say this because I believe that there are fanatical Christian fundamentalist religious trends that have decided that the so-called aliens are "demons" and we UFO activists and contact experiencers are “dancing with the devil.” If deranged people are willing to kill physicians that do safe legal abortions and the killers are applauded by some groups, might similarly motivated fundamentalists be convinced to kill those who are promoting contact?
We should not ignore the possibility that militarists some day in the future might use an “ET presence” to justify an accelerated buildup of space-based weapons. Currently this seems to be extremely unlikely as the US military budget keeps getting larger ever year by frightening the masses and politicians with conventional threats.
If mankind is properly prepared for full open peaceful contact with UFO associated non-human intelligences, then the risks of this issue being used by militarists will be minimized.
4. What is the content of your “contact downloads?”
Joseph Burkes: I have about 40 pages of material about what those downloads contained. I must admit that have doubts concerning their value. I believe that like most channeled material “downloads” are a co-creation of human (that's me I hope, just kidding) and non-human intelligences (the so-called ETs.) I think of this kind of material as “fairy tales for adults.” They reveal more about how UFO Intel can read our consciousness and co-create with us an emotionally compelling narratives than it says anything accurate about who they are or where they come from.
When I say "emotionally compelling" I mean that I could not speak about one of those downloads in public for 15 years because I would start crying. So, the alleged ETs can really push our emotional buttons.
Does my weeping make any of what I experienced more "real?" No, it doesn't. My behavior is reminiscent of those so-called abduction victims that shed tears during hypnotic sessions. The expression of powerful emotion doesn't prove that “abductees” physically went on board spacecraft, but it gives dramatic testimony to how increasing numbers of individuals are being powerfully affected by the phenomenon.
In my opinion, mankind is dealing with an array of incredibly sophisticated paranormal intelligences that probably has been creating belief systems here on Earth for a long time.
5.Do any of our interactions provide trustworthy information about where UFO Intelligence comes from?
Joseph Burkes: Probably not.
Unfortunately, most people when confronted with UFOs or any other potentially threatened subject, they usually end up creating an emotionally satisfying belief system and to hell with any evidence that doesn't support their beloved pet theories.
This was one of the stated reasons why Dr Vallee reportedly stopped interacting with popular UFO groups over 25 years ago. He found ufology to be a shouting arena in which people mostly argued about their belief systems. This made rational discussion of the issues nearly impossible and the possibility of doing scientific research with such groups nil.

 

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u/Contactunderground — 23 days ago

Contact Network History Project: Questions and Answers: I have reposted a Q&A exchange from a decade ago that still may have relevance. Topics covered include: 1.telepathic overrides alerting me to the programmed appearance of UFOs at our research sites.

2.Surveillance/harassment of my volunteer effort 

3.The existence of a possible “ET Masterplan” for Earth Civilization

 4.Militarization of space in response to a possible “ET” presence.

On one social media page, I was asked about what races of ETs I might have had physical or mental connections with, also if I have ever had any interactions with MIBs. These questions give me a chance to review my contact activities over the years.
When it comes to meeting beings, there are no recollections of face-to-face encounters with them physically. However, during the five-year period of volunteering as a CE-5 coordinator back in the 1990s, I had dozens of sightings of UFOs. On two separate occasions I experienced what the CSETI Director called “telepathic overrides” during fieldwork with my Los Angeles based contact team. In each I received advance notification telling me when UFOs were going to show up later those nights. I also learned the number of craft that would be involved and their locations of their appearances in the sky. I immediately shared the info with my co-workers as suggested by the contact protocols. As "predicted" the UFOs subsequently showed up as I had been notified.
Along with these verifiable events I had many "contact downloads” during a two-year period 1993 to 1995. In a kind of stereotypic "awake dream state" I received much abstract information plus visual impressions. It was like watching a movie in your head. Most of narratives involved so-called "Grays" although a few “Nordics" appeared in one of these experiences. I look at these anomalous occurrences as a form of channeling. All those experiences while very Interesting to me personally were totally unverifiable except for the two "heads up" messages I describe above.
The themes of these mental encounters were basically instructional in nature. At the level of mind, I was allowed to view or actually "meet" specific "ETs" that lectured me about various contact themes such as, why they are here, and what are their capabilities. I also “downloaded” the typical contactee fare about an “ET master plan" that allegedly has been unfolding here on Earth for some time.
No MIB encounters but there was telephone harassment. Once it happened before going out into the field. The strange calls to my home lasted for about a week. The phone would ring, but nobody was on the line when my wife or I picked up. Every hour on the hour the phone rang during 9 to 5 business hours. I assume that whoever they were that they were sending a sort of message like, "We know who you are and what you are doing.” Then during the subsequent fieldwork investigation in Joshua Tree my team was photographed by what appeared to be military intelligence or private contractors.
In the summer of 1997, I received threatening phone calls from what appeared to be private contract agents. One was able to describe my CSETI activities in detail. This rude rather aggressive individual told me, "It would be better for you if you got out of CSETI."
Maybe I will put it all together in a book someday as I am retired from my medical career, till then I will post articles to my blog site at Wordpress.
Additional Questions and Answers
1.What about the “ET master plan” that you mentioned, and about the assumption that there are many different motivations for different ET groups?
Joseph Burkes‪: I assume no such thing. After resigning from CSETI in 1998, I took a critical look at the UFO subculture that I had been so active in. I read the works of John Keel and Dr Vallee. I concluded that the although the ET hypothesis might be true, the UFO phenomenon was far more complicated than the simplistic view describing "good or bad aliens" from different groups operating here on Earth.
This new perspective was not an easy thing for me accept. After all, I had contributed thousands of hours of volunteer work doing contact related activities. I imagined that we in the contact network were attempting to reach out to spiritually and technologically advanced ETs. While I was closely associated with Dr Greer, I raised money for CSETI, did media events but the best thing was that I got to be contact team leader. In that capacity I had an opportunity to be part of a collective of determined UFO investigators that were driven to engage the phenomenon with high ideals for what we hoped was peaceful communication leading to a more open and mutually beneficial relationship.
I suggest all UFO truth seekers get a hold of Colin Wilson's book "Alien Dawn" that provides an excellent summary of the theories of those two greats of UFO research, John Keel and Dr Vallee. Keel's work should be understood to be a product of a time 50 years ago when much important testimony confirming the probable ET nature of some UFO related phenomena had not been investigated yet. I am talking about the Roswell incident and the release of government documents in the 1970s and 1980s showing very forceful governments efforts maintaining a cover up.
As far as the so-called "master plan", I will continue to post blogs on this and related topics. I re-circulate some posts on a yearly basis.
2. What did you do when you received the threatening phone calls?
Joseph Burkes‪: Thanks for the question but the answer is not a pretty story, and it is difficult for me to share. The threat I received contributed to my resigning from CSETI under very unpleasant circumstances. I might work up the courage to share on social media my narrative that goes into the circumstances of my resignation from CSETI but I am tired of the ugly personal aspects of UFO politics. Sharing it, however, might be instructive for future generations of activists trying to avoid pitfalls of past organizing efforts. 
3. Another commenter expressed surprise about my having contact downloads with “Gray and Nordic” types. Also why did I refer to my contact downloads as being “totally unverifiable.”
Joseph Burkes: Sure, it was great to have "downloads." I wanted them to go on forever, but after a few months they just petered out. I suspect that I could have meditated upside down chanting to try and get them to come back, but it would be to no avail. My fellow CE-5 Working Group Coordinator Wayne Peterson who headed the Phoenix team summed my contact downloads in the following way. He said that the ETs gave you a course, something like “Channeling 101.” As if to say, “Joseph, you can do this.” Once the course was over there was no need to continue it.
I repeat only two contact downloads could be verified because they accurately predicted the subsequent appearance of UFOs that were multiply witnessed. The contact network has been instructed to work in groups, so my co-workers were able to verify the accuracy of the “heads up.” The detailed “awake dreams” that contained much abstract concepts as well as details about the alleged ET groups working here were like watching a sci-fi series with my mind’s eyes. They were very entertaining but  almost totally unverifiable. 

I should point out that when I use the term “Contact Underground” I am not just referring to CE-5ers, or what is left of the Peruvian Rama started in 1974 now called Rahma, but more importantly to the many, perhaps hundreds of contact workers that are “flying below the radar” as the result of their being deliberately warned not to associate with more public, less secretive groups.
I am hopeful that over generations, perhaps it will be centuries, we will establish on this planet of so much greed, cruelty and pain a new kind of just and peaceful civilization. I imagine that full contact can only be achieved in a world based on peace and social/environmental justice. At that moment in our civilization’s history, whatever are the origins of UFO intelligences, (ET? interdimensional? or their being time travelers?) perhaps then they might be willing to level with us as to who they truly are.
According to my analysis, with terrestrial elites opposing contact, to reveal publicly in detail the actual " master plan" (if such a thing exists) would be foolish. Only after a protracted period of social action and spiritual transformation will humanity be able to grasp and support any kind of “masterplan” for Earth civilization.
I say this because I believe that there are fanatical Christian fundamentalist religious trends that have decided that the so-called aliens are "demons" and we UFO activists and contact experiencers are “dancing with the devil.” If deranged people are willing to kill physicians that do safe legal abortions and the killers are applauded by some groups, might similarly motivated fundamentalists be convinced to kill those who are promoting contact?
We should not ignore the possibility that militarists some day in the future might use an “ET presence” to justify an accelerated buildup of space-based weapons. Currently this seems to be extremely unlikely as the US military budget keeps getting larger ever year by frightening the masses and politicians with conventional threats.
If mankind is properly prepared for full open peaceful contact with UFO associated non-human intelligences, then the risks of this issue being used by militarists will be minimized.
4. What is the content of your “contact downloads?”
Joseph Burkes: I have about 40 pages of material about what those downloads contained. I must admit that have doubts concerning their value. I believe that like most channeled material “downloads” are a co-creation of human (that's me I hope, just kidding) and non-human intelligences (the so-called ETs.) I think of this kind of material as “fairy tales for adults.” They reveal more about how UFO Intel can read our consciousness and co-create with us an emotionally compelling narratives than it says anything accurate about who they are or where they come from.
When I say "emotionally compelling" I mean that I could not speak about one of those downloads in public for 15 years because I would start crying. So, the alleged ETs can really push our emotional buttons.
Does my weeping make any of what I experienced more "real?" No, it doesn't. My behavior is reminiscent of those so-called abduction victims that shed tears during hypnotic sessions. The expression of powerful emotion doesn't prove that “abductees” physically went on board spacecraft, but it gives dramatic testimony to how increasing numbers of individuals are being powerfully affected by the phenomenon.
In my opinion, mankind is dealing with an array of incredibly sophisticated paranormal intelligences that probably has been creating belief systems here on Earth for a long time.
5.Do any of our interactions provide trustworthy information about where UFO Intelligence comes from?
Joseph Burkes: Probably not.
Unfortunately, most people when confronted with UFOs or any other potentially threatened subject, they usually end up creating an emotionally satisfying belief system and to hell with any evidence that doesn't support their beloved pet theories.
This was one of the stated reasons why Dr Vallee reportedly stopped interacting with popular UFO groups over 25 years ago. He found ufology to be a shouting arena in which people mostly argued about their belief systems. This made rational discussion of the issues nearly impossible and the possibility of doing scientific research with such groups nil.

 

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u/Contactunderground — 23 days ago
▲ 6 r/aliens

Contact Network History Project: Questions and Answers: I have reposted a Q&A exchange from a decade ago that still may have relevance. Topics covered include: 1.telepathic overrides alerting me to the programmed appearance of UFOs at our research sites. Serious

2.Surveillance/harassment of my volunteer effort 

3.The existence of a possible “ET Masterplan” for Earth Civilization

 4.Militarization of space in response to a possible “ET” presence.
On one social media page, I was asked about what races of ETs I might have had physical or mental connections with, also if I have ever had any interactions with MIBs. These questions give me a chance to review my contact activities over the years.
When it comes to meeting beings, there are no recollections of face-to-face encounters with them physically. However, during the five-year period of volunteering as a CE-5 coordinator back in the 1990s, I had dozens of sightings of UFOs. On two separate occasions I experienced what the CSETI Director called “telepathic overrides” during fieldwork with my Los Angeles based contact team. In each I received advance notification telling me when UFOs were going to show up later those nights. I also learned the number of craft that would be involved and their locations of their appearances in the sky. I immediately shared the info with my co-workers as suggested by the contact protocols. As "predicted" the UFOs subsequently showed up as I had been notified.
Along with these verifiable events I had many "contact downloads” during a two-year period 1993 to 1995. In a kind of stereotypic "awake dream state" I received much abstract information plus visual impressions. It was like watching a movie in your head. Most of narratives involved so-called "Grays" although a few “Nordics" appeared in one of these experiences. I look at these anomalous occurrences as a form of channeling. All those experiences while very Interesting to me personally were totally unverifiable except for the two "heads up" messages I describe above.
The themes of these mental encounters were basically instructional in nature. At the level of mind, I was allowed to view or actually "meet" specific "ETs" that lectured me about various contact themes such as, why they are here, and what are their capabilities. I also “downloaded” the typical contactee fare about an “ET master plan" that allegedly has been unfolding here on Earth for some time.
No MIB encounters but there was telephone harassment. Once it happened before going out into the field. The strange calls to my home lasted for about a week. The phone would ring, but nobody was on the line when my wife or I picked up. Every hour on the hour the phone rang during 9 to 5 business hours. I assume that whoever they were that they were sending a sort of message like, "We know who you are and what you are doing.” Then during the subsequent fieldwork investigation in Joshua Tree my team was photographed by what appeared to be military intelligence or private contractors.
In the summer of 1997, I received threatening phone calls from what appeared to be private contract agents. One was able to describe my CSETI activities in detail. This rude rather aggressive individual told me, "It would be better for you if you got out of CSETI."
Maybe I will put it all together in a book someday as I am retired from my medical career, till then I will post articles to my blog site at Wordpress.
Additional Questions and Answers
1.What about the “ET master plan” that you mentioned, and about the assumption that there are many different motivations for different ET groups?
Joseph Burkes‪: I assume no such thing. After resigning from CSETI in 1998, I took a critical look at the UFO subculture that I had been so active in. I read the works of John Keel and Dr Vallee. I concluded that the although the ET hypothesis might be true, the UFO phenomenon was far more complicated than the simplistic view describing "good or bad aliens" from different groups operating here on Earth.
This new perspective was not an easy thing for me accept. After all, I had contributed thousands of hours of volunteer work doing contact related activities. I imagined that we in the contact network were attempting to reach out to spiritually and technologically advanced ETs. While I was closely associated with Dr Greer, I raised money for CSETI, did media events but the best thing was that I got to be contact team leader. In that capacity I had an opportunity to be part of a collective of determined UFO investigators that were driven to engage the phenomenon with high ideals for what we hoped was peaceful communication leading to a more open and mutually beneficial relationship.
I suggest all UFO truth seekers get a hold of Colin Wilson's book "Alien Dawn" that provides an excellent summary of the theories of those two greats of UFO research, John Keel and Dr Vallee. Keel's work should be understood to be a product of a time 50 years ago when much important testimony confirming the probable ET nature of some UFO related phenomena had not been investigated yet. I am talking about the Roswell incident and the release of government documents in the 1970s and 1980s showing very forceful governments efforts maintaining a cover up.
As far as the so-called "master plan", I will continue to post blogs on this and related topics. I re-circulate some posts on a yearly basis.
2. What did you do when you received the threatening phone calls?
Joseph Burkes‪: Thanks for the question but the answer is not a pretty story, and it is difficult for me to share. The threat I received contributed to my resigning from CSETI under very unpleasant circumstances. I might work up the courage to share on social media my narrative that goes into the circumstances of my resignation from CSETI but I am tired of the ugly personal aspects of UFO politics. Sharing it, however, might be instructive for future generations of activists trying to avoid pitfalls of past organizing efforts. 
3. Another commenter expressed surprise about my having contact downloads with “Gray and Nordic” types. Also why did I refer to my contact downloads as being “totally unverifiable.”
Joseph Burkes: Sure, it was great to have "downloads." I wanted them to go on forever, but after a few months they just petered out. I suspect that I could have meditated upside down chanting to try and get them to come back, but it would be to no avail. My fellow CE-5 Working Group Coordinator Wayne Peterson who headed the Phoenix team summed my contact downloads in the following way. He said that the ETs gave you a course, something like “Channeling 101.” As if to say, “Joseph, you can do this.” Once the course was over there was no need to continue it.
I repeat only two contact downloads could be verified because they accurately predicted the subsequent appearance of UFOs that were multiply witnessed. The contact network has been instructed to work in groups, so my co-workers were able to verify the accuracy of the “heads up.” The detailed “awake dreams” that contained much abstract concepts as well as details about the alleged ET groups working here were like watching a sci-fi series with my mind’s eyes. They were very entertaining but  almost totally unverifiable. 

I should point out that when I use the term “Contact Underground” I am not just referring to CE-5ers, or what is left of the Peruvian Rama started in 1974 now called Rahma, but more importantly to the many, perhaps hundreds of contact workers that are “flying below the radar” as the result of their being deliberately warned not to associate with more public, less secretive groups.
I am hopeful that over generations, perhaps it will be centuries, we will establish on this planet of so much greed, cruelty and pain a new kind of just and peaceful civilization. I imagine that full contact can only be achieved in a world based on peace and social/environmental justice. At that moment in our civilization’s history, whatever are the origins of UFO intelligences, (ET? interdimensional? or their being time travelers?) perhaps then they might be willing to level with us as to who they truly are.
According to my analysis, with terrestrial elites opposing contact, to reveal publicly in detail the actual " master plan" (if such a thing exists) would be foolish. Only after a protracted period of social action and spiritual transformation will humanity be able to grasp and support any kind of “masterplan” for Earth civilization.
I say this because I believe that there are fanatical Christian fundamentalist religious trends that have decided that the so-called aliens are "demons" and we UFO activists and contact experiencers are “dancing with the devil.” If deranged people are willing to kill physicians that do safe legal abortions and the killers are applauded by some groups, might similarly motivated fundamentalists be convinced to kill those who are promoting contact?
We should not ignore the possibility that militarists some day in the future might use an “ET presence” to justify an accelerated buildup of space-based weapons. Currently this seems to be extremely unlikely as the US military budget keeps getting larger ever year by frightening the masses and politicians with conventional threats.
If mankind is properly prepared for full open peaceful contact with UFO associated non-human intelligences, then the risks of this issue being used by militarists will be minimized.
4. What is the content of your “contact downloads?”
Joseph Burkes: I have about 40 pages of material about what those downloads contained. I must admit that have doubts concerning their value. I believe that like most channeled material “downloads” are a co-creation of human (that's me I hope, just kidding) and non-human intelligences (the so-called ETs.) I think of this kind of material as “fairy tales for adults.” They reveal more about how UFO Intel can read our consciousness and co-create with us an emotionally compelling narratives than it says anything accurate about who they are or where they come from.
When I say "emotionally compelling" I mean that I could not speak about one of those downloads in public for 15 years because I would start crying. So, the alleged ETs can really push our emotional buttons.
Does my weeping make any of what I experienced more "real?" No, it doesn't. My behavior is reminiscent of those so-called abduction victims that shed tears during hypnotic sessions. The expression of powerful emotion doesn't prove that “abductees” physically went on board spacecraft, but it gives dramatic testimony to how increasing numbers of individuals are being powerfully affected by the phenomenon.
In my opinion, mankind is dealing with an array of incredibly sophisticated paranormal intelligences that probably has been creating belief systems here on Earth for a long time.
5.Do any of our interactions provide trustworthy information about where UFO Intelligence comes from?
Joseph Burkes: Probably not.
Unfortunately, most people when confronted with UFOs or any other potentially threatened subject, they usually end up creating an emotionally satisfying belief system and to hell with any evidence that doesn't support their beloved pet theories.
This was one of the stated reasons why Dr Vallee reportedly stopped interacting with popular UFO groups over 25 years ago. He found ufology to be a shouting arena in which people mostly argued about their belief systems. This made rational discussion of the issues nearly impossible and the possibility of doing scientific research with such groups nil.

 

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u/Contactunderground — 23 days ago

Contact Network History Project: Questions and Answers: I have reposted a Q&A exchange from a decade ago that still may have relevance. Topics covered include: 1.telepathic overrides alerting me to the programmed appearance of UFOs at our research sites.

Contact Network History Project: Questions and Answers:

I have reposted a Q&A exchange from a decade ago that still may have relevance. Topics covered include: 1.telepathic overrides alerting me to the programmed appearance of UFOs at our research sites.

2.Surveillance/harassment of my volunteer effort 

3.The existence of a possible “ET Masterplan” for Earth Civilization

 4.Militarization of space in response to a possible “ET” presence.
On one social media page, I was asked about what races of ETs I might have had physical or mental connections with, also if I have ever had any interactions with MIBs. These questions give me a chance to review my contact activities over the years.
When it comes to meeting beings, there are no recollections of face-to-face encounters with them physically. However, during the five-year period of volunteering as a CE-5 coordinator back in the 1990s, I had dozens of sightings of UFOs. On two separate occasions I experienced what the CSETI Director called “telepathic overrides” during fieldwork with my Los Angeles based contact team. In each I received advance notification telling me when UFOs were going to show up later those nights. I also learned the number of craft that would be involved and their locations of their appearances in the sky. I immediately shared the info with my co-workers as suggested by the contact protocols. As "predicted" the UFOs subsequently showed up as I had been notified.
Along with these verifiable events I had many "contact downloads” during a two-year period 1993 to 1995. In a kind of stereotypic "awake dream state" I received much abstract information plus visual impressions. It was like watching a movie in your head. Most of narratives involved so-called "Grays" although a few “Nordics" appeared in one of these experiences. I look at these anomalous occurrences as a form of channeling. All those experiences while very Interesting to me personally were totally unverifiable except for the two "heads up" messages I describe above.
The themes of these mental encounters were basically instructional in nature. At the level of mind, I was allowed to view or actually "meet" specific "ETs" that lectured me about various contact themes such as, why they are here, and what are their capabilities. I also “downloaded” the typical contactee fare about an “ET master plan" that allegedly has been unfolding here on Earth for some time.
No MIB encounters but there was telephone harassment. Once it happened before going out into the field. The strange calls to my home lasted for about a week. The phone would ring, but nobody was on the line when my wife or I picked up. Every hour on the hour the phone rang during 9 to 5 business hours. I assume that whoever they were that they were sending a sort of message like, "We know who you are and what you are doing.” Then during the subsequent fieldwork investigation in Joshua Tree my team was photographed by what appeared to be military intelligence or private contractors.
In the summer of 1997, I received threatening phone calls from what appeared to be private contract agents. One was able to describe my CSETI activities in detail. This rude rather aggressive individual told me, "It would be better for you if you got out of CSETI."
Maybe I will put it all together in a book someday as I am retired from my medical career, till then I will post articles to my blog site at Wordpress.
Additional Questions and Answers
1.What about the “ET master plan” that you mentioned, and about the assumption that there are many different motivations for different ET groups?
Joseph Burkes‪: I assume no such thing. After resigning from CSETI in 1998, I took a critical look at the UFO subculture that I had been so active in. I read the works of John Keel and Dr Vallee. I concluded that the although the ET hypothesis might be true, the UFO phenomenon was far more complicated than the simplistic view describing "good or bad aliens" from different groups operating here on Earth.
This new perspective was not an easy thing for me accept. After all, I had contributed thousands of hours of volunteer work doing contact related activities. I imagined that we in the contact network were attempting to reach out to spiritually and technologically advanced ETs. While I was closely associated with Dr Greer, I raised money for CSETI, did media events but the best thing was that I got to be contact team leader. In that capacity I had an opportunity to be part of a collective of determined UFO investigators that were driven to engage the phenomenon with high ideals for what we hoped was peaceful communication leading to a more open and mutually beneficial relationship.
I suggest all UFO truth seekers get a hold of Colin Wilson's book "Alien Dawn" that provides an excellent summary of the theories of those two greats of UFO research, John Keel and Dr Vallee. Keel's work should be understood to be a product of a time 50 years ago when much important testimony confirming the probable ET nature of some UFO related phenomena had not been investigated yet. I am talking about the Roswell incident and the release of government documents in the 1970s and 1980s showing very forceful governments efforts maintaining a cover up.
As far as the so-called "master plan", I will continue to post blogs on this and related topics. I re-circulate some posts on a yearly basis.
2. What did you do when you received the threatening phone calls?
Joseph Burkes‪: Thanks for the question but the answer is not a pretty story, and it is difficult for me to share. The threat I received contributed to my resigning from CSETI under very unpleasant circumstances. I might work up the courage to share on social media my narrative that goes into the circumstances of my resignation from CSETI but I am tired of the ugly personal aspects of UFO politics. Sharing it, however, might be instructive for future generations of activists trying to avoid pitfalls of past organizing efforts. 
3. Another commenter expressed surprise about my having contact downloads with “Gray and Nordic” types. Also why did I refer to my contact downloads as being “totally unverifiable.”
Joseph Burkes: Sure, it was great to have "downloads." I wanted them to go on forever, but after a few months they just petered out. I suspect that I could have meditated upside down chanting to try and get them to come back, but it would be to no avail. My fellow CE-5 Working Group Coordinator Wayne Peterson who headed the Phoenix team summed my contact downloads in the following way. He said that the ETs gave you a course, something like “Channeling 101.” As if to say, “Joseph, you can do this.” Once the course was over there was no need to continue it.
I repeat only two contact downloads could be verified because they accurately predicted the subsequent appearance of UFOs that were multiply witnessed. The contact network has been instructed to work in groups, so my co-workers were able to verify the accuracy of the “heads up.” The detailed “awake dreams” that contained much abstract concepts as well as details about the alleged ET groups working here were like watching a sci-fi series with my mind’s eyes. They were very entertaining but  almost totally unverifiable. 

I should point out that when I use the term “Contact Underground” I am not just referring to CE-5ers, or what is left of the Peruvian Rama started in 1974 now called Rahma, but more importantly to the many, perhaps hundreds of contact workers that are “flying below the radar” as the result of their being deliberately warned not to associate with more public, less secretive groups.
I am hopeful that over generations, perhaps it will be centuries, we will establish on this planet of so much greed, cruelty and pain a new kind of just and peaceful civilization. I imagine that full contact can only be achieved in a world based on peace and social/environmental justice. At that moment in our civilization’s history, whatever are the origins of UFO intelligences, (ET? interdimensional? or their being time travelers?) perhaps then they might be willing to level with us as to who they truly are.
According to my analysis, with terrestrial elites opposing contact, to reveal publicly in detail the actual " master plan" (if such a thing exists) would be foolish. Only after a protracted period of social action and spiritual transformation will humanity be able to grasp and support any kind of “masterplan” for Earth civilization.
I say this because I believe that there are fanatical Christian fundamentalist religious trends that have decided that the so-called aliens are "demons" and we UFO activists and contact experiencers are “dancing with the devil.” If deranged people are willing to kill physicians that do safe legal abortions and the killers are applauded by some groups, might similarly motivated fundamentalists be convinced to kill those who are promoting contact?
We should not ignore the possibility that militarists some day in the future might use an “ET presence” to justify an accelerated buildup of space-based weapons. Currently this seems to be extremely unlikely as the US military budget keeps getting larger ever year by frightening the masses and politicians with conventional threats.
If mankind is properly prepared for full open peaceful contact with UFO associated non-human intelligences, then the risks of this issue being used by militarists will be minimized.
4. What is the content of your “contact downloads?”
Joseph Burkes: I have about 40 pages of material about what those downloads contained. I must admit that have doubts concerning their value. I believe that like most channeled material “downloads” are a co-creation of human (that's me I hope, just kidding) and non-human intelligences (the so-called ETs.) I think of this kind of material as “fairy tales for adults.” They reveal more about how UFO Intel can read our consciousness and co-create with us an emotionally compelling narratives than it says anything accurate about who they are or where they come from.
When I say "emotionally compelling" I mean that I could not speak about one of those downloads in public for 15 years because I would start crying. So, the alleged ETs can really push our emotional buttons.
Does my weeping make any of what I experienced more "real?" No, it doesn't. My behavior is reminiscent of those so-called abduction victims that shed tears during hypnotic sessions. The expression of powerful emotion doesn't prove that “abductees” physically went on board spacecraft, but it gives dramatic testimony to how increasing numbers of individuals are being powerfully affected by the phenomenon.
In my opinion, mankind is dealing with an array of incredibly sophisticated paranormal intelligences that probably has been creating belief systems here on Earth for a long time.
5.Do any of our interactions provide trustworthy information about where UFO Intelligence comes from?
Joseph Burkes: Probably not.
Unfortunately, most people when confronted with UFOs or any other potentially threatened subject, they usually end up creating an emotionally satisfying belief system and to hell with any evidence that doesn't support their beloved pet theories.
This was one of the stated reasons why Dr Vallee reportedly stopped interacting with popular UFO groups over 25 years ago. He found ufology to be a shouting arena in which people mostly argued about their belief systems. This made rational discussion of the issues nearly impossible and the possibility of doing scientific research with such groups nil.

 

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Contact Network History Project: Questions and Answers In 2015 I posted a Q&A blog about my many years of contact work/activism. In this edited blog, a range of topics are covered. These include:

Contact Network History Project: Questions and Answers

In 2015 I posted a Q&A blog about my many years of contact work/activism. In this edited blog, a range of topics are covered. These include:

1.telepathic overrides alerting me to the staged appearance
of UFOs at our research sites
2.Surveillance/harassment of my volunteer efforts
3.The existence of a possible “ET Masterplan” for Earth
Civilization
4.Militarization of space in response to a possible “ET”
presence.

SOME HIGHLIGHTS OF MY CONTACT WORK.

On another social media page, I was asked about what races of
ETs I might have had physical or mental connections with, also if I have ever
had any interactions with MIBs. These questions give me a chance to review my
contact activities over the years.

When it comes to meeting beings, there are no recollections
of face-to-face encounters with them physically. However, during the five year
period of volunteering as a CE-5 coordinator back in the 1990s, I had dozens of
sightings of UFOs. On two separate occasions I experienced what the CSETI
Director called “telepathic overrides” during fieldwork with my Los Angeles
based contact team. In each I received advance notification telling me when
UFOs were going to show up later those nights. I also learned the number of
craft that would be involved and their locations of their appearances in the
sky. I immediately shared the info with my co-workers as suggested by the
contact protocols. As "predicted" the UFOs subsequently showed up as
I had been notified.

‪Along with these verifiable events I had many "contact
downloads” during a two-year period 1993 to 1995. In a kind of stereotypic
"awake dream state" I received much abstract information plus visual
narratives. It was like watching a movie in your head. Most of narratives
involved so-called "Grays" although a few “Nordics" appeared in
one of these experiences. I look at these anomalous occurrences as a form of
channeling. All those experiences while very Interesting to me personally were
totally unverifiable except for the two "heads up" messages I
describe above.

‪The themes of these mental encounters were basically
instructional in nature. At the level of mind, I was allowed to view or
actually "meet" specific "ETs" that lectured me about
various contact themes such as, why they are here, and what are their
capabilities. I also “downloaded” the typical contactee fare about an “ET
master plan" that allegedly has been unfolding here on Earth for some time.

‪No MIB encounters but there was telephone harassment. Once
it happened before going out into the field. The strange calls to my home
lasted for about a week. The phone would ring, but nobody was on the line when
my wife or I picked up. Every hour on the hour the phone rang during 9 to 5
business hours. I assume that whoever they were that they were sending a sort
of message like, "We know who you are and what you are doing.” Then during
the subsequent fieldwork investigation in Joshua Tree my team was photographed
by what appeared to be military intelligence or private contractors.

In the summer of 1997, I received threatening phone calls
from what appeared to be private contract agents. One was able to describe my
CSETI activities in detail. This rude rather aggressive individual told me,
"It would be better for you if you got out of CSETI."

‪Maybe I will put it all together in a book someday as I am
retired from my medical career, till then I will post articles to my blog site
at Wordpress.

Additional Questions and Answers

1.What about the “ET master plan” that you mentioned, and
about the assumption that there are many different motivations for different ET
groups?

Joseph Burkes‪: I assume no such thing. After
resigning from CSETI in 1998, I took a critical look at the UFO subculture that
I had been so active in. I read the works of John Keel and Dr Vallee. I
concluded that the although the ET hypothesis might be true, the UFO phenomenon
was far more complicated than the simplistic view describing "good or bad
aliens" from different groups operating here on Earth.

This new perspective was not an easy thing for me accept.
After all, I had contributed thousands of hours of volunteer work doing contact
related activities. I imagined that we in the contact network were attempting
to reach out to spiritually and technologically advanced ETs. While I was
closely associated with Dr Greer, I raised money for CSETI, did media events
but the best thing was that I got to be contact team leader. In that capacity I
had an opportunity to be part of a collective of determined UFO investigators
that were driven to engage the phenomenon with high ideals for what we hoped
was peaceful communication leading to a more open and mutually beneficial
relationship.

‪I suggest all UFO truth seekers get a hold of Colin Wilson's
book "Alien Dawn" that provides an excellent summary of the theories
of those two greats of UFO research, John Keel and Dr Vallee. Keel's work
should be understood to be a product of a time 50 years ago when much important
testimony confirming the probable ET nature of some UFO related phenomena had
not been investigated yet. I am talking about the Roswell incident and the
release of government documents in the 1970s and 1980s showing very forceful
governments efforts maintaining a cover up.

‪As far as the so-called "master plan", I will
continue to post blogs on this and related topics. I re-circulate some posts on
a yearly basis.

  1. What did you do when you received the threatening phone
    calls?

Joseph Burkes‪: Thanks for the question but the answer is not a pretty story, and it is difficult for me to share. The threat I received contributed to my resigning from CSETI under very unpleasant circumstances. I might work up the courage to share on social media my narrative that goes into the circumstances of my resignation from CSETI but I am tired of the ugly personal aspects of UFO politics. Sharing it, however, might be instructive for future generations of activists trying to avoid pitfalls of past organizing efforts. 

  1. Another commenter expressed surprise about my having
    contact downloads with “Gray and Nordic” types. Also why did I refer to my
    contact downloads as being “totally unverifiable.”

Joseph Burkes: Sure, it was great to have "downloads." I wanted them to go on forever, but after a few months they just petered out. I suspect that I could have meditated upside down chanting to try and get them to come back, but it would be to no avail. My fellow CE-5 Working Group Coordinator Wayne Peterson who headed the Phoenix team summed my contact downloads in the following way. He said that the ETs gave you a course, something like “Channeling 101.” As if to say, “Joseph, you can do this.” Once the course was over there was no need to continue it.

I repeat only two contact downloads could be verified because
they accurately predicted the subsequent appearance of UFOs that were multiply
witnessed. The contact network has been instructed to work in groups, so my
co-workers were able to verify the accuracy of the “heads up.” The detailed
“awake dreams” that contained much abstract concepts as well as details about
the alleged ET groups working here were like watching a sci-fi series with my
mind’s eyes. They were very entertaining but  almost totally unverifiable.

I should point out that when I use the term “Contact
Underground” I am not just referring to CE-5ers, or what is left of the
Peruvian Rama started in 1974 now called Rahma, but more importantly to the
many, perhaps hundreds of contact workers that are “flying below the radar” as
the result of their being deliberately warned not to associate with more
public, less secretive groups.

I am hopeful that over generations, perhaps it will be
centuries, we will establish on this planet of so much greed, cruelty and pain
a new kind of just and peaceful civilization. I imagine that full contact can
only be achieved in a world based on peace and social/environmental justice. At
that moment in our civilization’s history, whatever are the origins of UFO
intelligences, (ET? interdimensional? or their being time travelers?) perhaps
then they might be willing to level with us as to who they truly are.

According to my analysis, with terrestrial elites opposing
contact, to reveal publicly in detail the actual " master plan" (if
such a thing exists) would be foolish. Only after a protracted period of social
action and spiritual transformation will humanity be able to grasp and support
any kind of “masterplan” for Earth civilization.

I say this because I believe that there are fanatical
Christian fundamentalist religious trends that have decided that the so-called
aliens are "demons" and we UFO activists and contact experiencers are
“dancing with the devil.” If deranged people are willing to kill physicians
that do safe legal abortions and the killers are applauded by some groups,
might similarly motivated fundamentalists be convinced to kill those who are
promoting contact?

We should not ignore the possibility that militarists some
day in the future might use an “ET presence” to justify an accelerated buildup
of space-based weapons. Currently this seems to be extremely unlikely as the US
military budget keeps getting larger ever year by frightening the masses and
politicians with conventional threats.

If mankind is properly prepared for full open peaceful
contact with UFO associated non-human intelligences, then the risks of this
issue being used by militarists will be minimized.

4. What is the content of your “contact downloads?”

Joseph Burkes: I have about 40 pages of material about what those downloads contained. I must admit that have doubts concerning their value. I believe that like most channeled material “downloads” are a co-creation of human (that's me I hope, just kidding) and non-human intelligences (the so-called ETs.) I think of this kind of material as “fairy tales for adults.” They reveal more about how UFO Intel can read our consciousness and co-create with us an emotionally compelling narratives than it says anything accurate about who they are or where they come from.

When I say "emotionally compelling" I mean that I
could not speak about one of those downloads in public for 15 years because I
would start crying. So, the alleged ETs can really push our emotional buttons.

Does my weeping make any of what I experienced more
"real?" No, it doesn't. My behavior is reminiscent of those so-called
abduction victims that shed tears during hypnotic sessions. The expression of
powerful emotion doesn't prove that “abductees” physically went on board
spacecraft, but it gives dramatic testimony to how increasing numbers of
individuals are being powerfully affected by the phenomenon.

In my opinion, mankind is dealing with an array of incredibly
sophisticated paranormal intelligences that probably has been creating belief
systems here on Earth for a long time.

5.Do any of our interactions provide trustworthy information
about where UFO Intelligence comes from?

Joseph Burkes: Probably not.

Unfortunately, most people when confronted with UFOs or any
other potentially threatened subject, they usually end up creating an
emotionally satisfying belief system and to hell with any evidence that doesn't
support their beloved pet theories.

This was one of the stated reasons why Dr Vallee reportedly
stopped interacting with popular UFO groups over 25 years ago. He found ufology
to be a shouting arena in which people mostly argued about their belief
systems. This made rational discussion of the issues nearly impossible and the
possibility of doing scientific research with such groups nil.

The link below is for by blog site where over one hundred of
my postings can be viewed.
https://contactunderground.org

If readers of this posting have questions for an updated Q&A blog, please post them below and I will endeavor to publish my replies as a future blog. 

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u/Contactunderground — 23 days ago

The astounding UAP healings experienced by retired DEA Special Agent Alberto Fernandez are described in this report.

Case Study# 5**: Alberto Fernandez Part 1, Healing of Traumatic Avulsion of Right Eye (Interview by Joseph Burkes MD)** 

Mr. Alberto Fernandez is a retired Federal Drug Enforcement Administration (DEA) agent and his wife, Rebeca Fernandez, is a Ph.D. psychologist.  Both have a history of seeing UAPs up close and close contact experiences with non-human intelligence.  Alberto was born in 1945 in Santiago, Cuba. Orphaned soon after birth, he was raised by his maternal grand aunt. They lived in the Sierra Maestra Mountains of eastern Cuba. There he had what he described as his first paranormal experience. It reportedly happened when he was about three years old. He recalled seeing a man sitting on his bed wearing a white robe. This stranger was filled with light. The being watched as Alberto played and tenderly patted him on the head. Years later after seeing a painting of Jesus, he thought that this was the man that had seen sitting on his bed. Alberto wrote, “I felt a deep connection with him.”

Strange encounters continued during his childhood. Mr. Fernandez described another experience as follows. *“*One evening, when I was six years old, I was in my bedroom by myself when suddenly the lights went off. It was pitch black. Suddenly, a bright light appeared in front of me out of nowhere. This light had an ignited heart within it. The light was hovering approximately a foot from my chest. This ignited red heart slowly got closer and closer to my chest, when [it] entered my chest, I started to convulse. Sometime later, I saw a drawing of Jesus depicting the ignition inside of the sacred heart of Jesus Christ. This intense image gave me a ‘déjà vu’ of the experience I had as a child. I have not witnessed anything like that again in my life.” 

At age fourteen he had a near-death experience while swimming alone at a Havana Beach. He was caught in a strong rip current and could not make it back to shore. He became totally exhausted. “I just gave up. I was drowning, I would see myself going down under the water. Flashes of my entire life went through my mind, thoughts of my deceased mother Lydia and of God. I knew this was the end of my life. I remember I said, ‘Mother! God! Help me!’ Suddenly, almost in a flash, I felt a tremendous force, like an immense energy, that pulled me out of the depths and gently placed me on the concrete sidewalk across the street from the pier. I did not have a scratch, nor did I even cough up any water! I was in such a state of shock.  I was soaking wet with water. I stood up immediately and walked home. I did not tell anyone about this incident.”

In 1961 at age sixteen, Fernandez left communist Cuba for the USA as a part of Operation Peter Pan **in which thousands of children were flown to the States without their families.**^(7) At that time many Cubans were frightened by rumors that the Castro regime might take custody of their children and send them to the former Soviet Union. At age eighteen, Mr. Fernandez joined the U.S. Army in a program to train young Cuban men to combat the Castro dictatorship. The operation however was discontinued following the President Kennedy assassination. Several years after completing his military service Fernandez joined the Metro-Dade Police Department. 

His first UAP sighting was in 1973. One night at 11:30 p.m., Officer Fernandez had just come off a shift and was standing in front of his home. Suddenly a bright beam of light flashed down from the sky. He looked up and at first, he thought he was seeing a helicopter, but it didn’t have the typical roar of a chopper. The object hovered directly above his house, clearing the roof by only five feet. It was forty feet wide, shaped like a hamburger and had a bright blue light that rotated counterclockwise. A yellow light shined through the windows. Alberto Fernandez stated, “This phenomenon tampered with my brain. I wasn’t the same individual after this encounter.”

A few days later Mr. Fernandez experienced a frightful encounter in which he felt the presence of a non-human intelligence in his bedroom. He then became completely paralyzed. For the next 10 years he was plagued by recurrent terrifying contact experiences that occurred two to three times per month. “I would wake up in the middle of the night sensing the presence of an entity in my bedroom. This energy would start paralyzing me from my feet to my head. This unknown energy possessed my body and my mind. I had no control over it. I was in terror every night because I couldn’t scream….” It is difficult for Alberto to estimate how long these agonizing experiences typically lasted. His guess was that they went on for less than one minute, but he is not certain. Each time as they ended, he described feeling totally drained as if he had engaged in prolonged sexual activity. And then he would lose consciousness and awake the next morning feeling exhausted.

After working five years for the Metro-Dade Police Department in 1975 Officer Fernandez changed jobs and joined the Drug Enforcement Administration. He was trained to be a Special Agent and worked first in Miami and then in Puerto Rico. In 1984 he was given diplomatic status as a DEA officer attached to the U.S. Embassy in the Dominican Republic. Injured on the job he returned to Miami and was given temporary housing in the penthouse of Hotel Sofitel. There he had a Close Encounter of the Third Kind in which he was given an explanation as to why he had been subjected to 10 years of recurrent visitations. 

“One evening (approximately 11:00 p.m.) the fire alarm of the hotel went off. At first, many hotel guests came out of their rooms. The management explained it was a false alarm, when we returned to our room my beeper started to shake and randomly vibrate; the electricity flickered on and off and the super thick, glass windows started to shake intensely as if they were made from plastic. This all happened while I was laying on the bed wide awake with my wife (my one-year-old infant daughter slept quietly in the crib while all this was happening.) Suddenly, an unknown creature appeared floating in front of my bed. (My wife was apparently hypnotized and fell asleep suddenly without witnessing my encounter. I saw a solid, three-dimensional, grey, dolphin-skinned creature approximately three feet tall with a big head, no hair, huge black eyes, (no pupils no sclera), tiny black nose and mouth, no ears, a long neck, long skinny arms to her side, long hands and fingers and nails, her facial expression was flat, no emotions. I was not scared but calm. This unknown creature talked to me telepathically telling me it was a female. She proceeded to explain that they have been collecting semen from me for years to help them in the procreation of their dying race and that my helping mission was completed with them. (In fact, she kept her promise, and I was never bothered again.)”

Mr. Fernandez stated that prior to this dramatic event he had little interest in the subject of extraterrestrials. He considered his one flying saucer sighting and the earlier bizarre encounters as simply “paranormal” events of his youth. After his encounter with the female alien being, however, he became very interested in the subject of flying saucers. He joined in the activities of the Peruvian contact network known now as Rahma. He became friends with Sixto Paz Wells, one of the founders of that group. On three occasions, he travelled to the Peruvian desert to participate in fieldwork with Rahma. In one incident at a remote location called Chilca, he, his wife, and the other witnesses saw up close UAP crafts, and Alberto reportedly entered a dimensional portal that the Peruvians call a “Xendra.” After retiring from the DEA, he has publicly spoken about his contact experiences.

In 2001, he experienced a serious traumatic injury and reportedly had a subsequent healing encounter. A heavy-set elderly woman fainted while standing next to him. He caught her in his arms but was unable to sustain their combined weight. Together they fell. While still holding on to her he smashed the right side of his face against the edge of a chair. His right eye was severely damaged. Prior to this injury his visual acuity was reportedly “20/20” following prior corrective Lasik surgery. In the ER, X-rays showed multiple fractures to the right eye orbit (socket) and right maxilla (cheek bone). The soft tissue swelling around the right eye was so great that the eyelids could not be opened to allow for an eye exam. He was advised to see an ophthalmologist as soon as possible. This was not done. 

According to Alberto and his wife, an expensive multi-week ocean cruise had been purchased for them and several other members of his family. They were scheduled to leave the day after his injury. Mrs. Fernandez advised her husband that they should stay in Miami so that he could get continued treatment for his injuries. He stubbornly insisted however that they go on the cruise. Three days into the voyage, the ship’s doctor examined him. Mrs. Fernandez stated that the injuries were deemed so severe that this physician wanted to order an emergency helicopter evacuation to the mainland. Her husband refused to have this done. Once the swelling was reduced and he could open his right eye, the vision in this eye was extremely impaired. He could not read and only recognized the blurred shapes of objects. 

Three weeks after the injury he was finally seen by Dr. Kurstein, a Miami ophthalmologist eye doctor. Alberto stated that he was told that the cornea had been torn off the surface of his right eye and that it was “very dry.” Mrs. Fernandez stated that the cornea looked like a piece of dry cardboard. (The cornea is a tough transparent protective membrane on the surface of the eye that requires moisture to function properly. The absence of sufficient moisture for several weeks would definitely impede the healing process.) The eye doctor reportedly used tweezers to drag the torn cornea onto the surface of his right eye. He advised Mr. Fernandez and his wife that the patient would likely have some permanent loss of vision in that eye. It was probable that he would develop glaucoma as well. Close medical follow-up with the doctor was advised. This did not occur. Instead, five or six nights later Mr. Fernandez had another contact encounter. 

He awoke in bed and sensed an alien presence. During many previous visitations he experienced extreme panic attacks when he was rendered paralyzed by a non-human intelligence. In contrast, this time he was extremely calm and cooperative. He voluntarily kept his left eye closed. A very bright green light shined into his right eye that Fernandez believes was a laser surgical instrument. With machine like precision the brilliant light flashed striking his injured cornea. There was no pain associated with the procedure. The bursts of green light were rapid, several per second, and in retrospect he realized that they were suturing the torn cornea to his injured right eye. The Fernandezes stated that the next morning to their amazement he was able to see perfectly with his right eye. He never followed up with Dr. Kurstein, but several months later visited an associate physician, Dr. Companioni, examined Mr. Fernandez. According to him, this physician was shocked to find that Alberto’s eye was perfectly normal. Mr. Fernandez and his wife stated that he never developed glaucoma.

Case Study 6Alberto Fernandez Part 2, Healing of Large Right Lung Mass deemed likely to be malignant (Interview by Joseph Burkes MD) 

According to the Fernandezes, in 2005 another high strangeness event occurred when he visited a prominent Miami physician, Dr. Ralph G. Nader. Mr. Fernandez has a history of prostate cancer and a routine follow-up chest X-ray was done at this appointment. After looking at the films his doctor notified Mr. Fernandez that he had some very bad news. The X-ray showed a baseball-sized mass in his right lung that was very likely cancer. According to Mr. Fernandez his physician insisted that he be immediately admitted to Mount Sinai Medical Center for evaluation and treatment. He was told not to go home and that his wife should meet him at a lung specialist’s office that Dr. Nader was referring Alberto to. The pulmonologist ordered another chest X-ray. 

Mrs. Fernandez accompanied her husband into the X-ray department. There a curtain separated her from him as she waited a short distance away for the technician to do the repeat study. Alberto stated that suddenly his entire body started vibrating. He said that he was shaking as if he had severe chills. There was no loss of consciousness. He denied being in pain. According to his wife he started shouting to her repeatedly in Spanish “Ellos están aqui!”  “They are here! They are here!” and then, “They cured me!” Mrs. Fernandez stated that as she rushed towards her husband, she noticed that the curtain was moving in a most bizarre manner. A rhythmic, orderly, perfect sine-wave pattern moved across its surface as if her husband located behind the curtain had been enveloped in some kind of energy field. The patient stated that although he remembered his violent shaking, he did not recall crying out to his wife. Mrs. Fernandez reported that she observed the shaking of his body. The entire episode lasted less than a minute. The test was then done, and they brought the X-rays to the pulmonologist for review. When the specialist looked at the films, he became angry saying that the X-rays were “perfectly normal” and that he could not understand why the patient had been sent to his office to “waste his time.” Dr. Nader was reportedly shocked when he found out that the repeat chest X-ray showed no evidence of the right lung mass. 

Commentary: 

Joseph Burkes MD: The question arises is there a connection between where a healing takes place and the type of illness that is addressed by non-human intelligences. In Mr. Fernandez’ traumatic eye injury, only one body part was treated, and the healing reportedly took place in his bedroom. It is important to note that the doctor told him some permanent impairment of his vision was likely. Nevertheless, the next morning his vision was reportedly perfectly normal. In addition, he never developed post traumatic glaucoma that is often seen in such cases. Obviously, the current level of medical science has no explanation for how these amazing cures are accomplished so quickly. Under ordinary circumstances a minimum of several weeks should be required for healing. Yet the Fernandezes reported that he was fully recovered the morning after his encounter with a green laser. 

The lung mass seen in the X-ray ordered by Dr. Nader was described as being approximately the size of baseball (about 3 inches in diameter). Lung nodules are abnormalities in chest films of three centimeters in size (about 1.2 inches) or less and are far less likely to be malignant than lung masses which are defined as being larger than three centimeters across. In general, the larger the abnormality is, the more likely it will be malignant. Although bacterial and fungal infections can cause lung masses, patients with these illnesses are usually symptomatic at time of diagnosis, especially if on X-ray the abnormality is the size of a baseball. Mr. Fernandez did not have symptoms indicating infection. There was no history of fevers or coughing up phlegm or blood and the high probability that he had cancer prompted his physician to order an immediate work up. Whether this large mass was caused by cancer or infection, its rapid disappearance is truly astonishing. For discussion purposes, I feel obliged to make some radical speculations in an attempt to understand what might be the technological challenges involved in such amazing cures. From these bizarre cases, it appears that non-human intelligence has a technology that carries out extensive tissue repairs very rapidly. One can posit that the same rules of time and space in our plane of existence might not apply to non-human intelligence. This is the opinion of the prominent scientist and contact researcher Dr. Jacques Vallee who has observed that the intelligence behind the phenomenon doesn’t behave like visitors from other planets, but rather more like visitors from another dimension.^(8)

Perhaps contact experiencers are engulfed in some kind field, or they are taken to a place, where time elapses far more rapidly than in our dimensional plane. Once the prolonged treatment is completed then the experiencer is returned to our dimensional plane where presumably time passes more slowly. This mechanism might explain how Alberto’s lung mass apparently was cured instantaneously while in the X-ray suite. This speculative theme will be further discussed in the concluding remarks of this article.  

Preston Dennett: Fernandez’s case of an eye-healing provides an extraordinary example of medical healing from non-human intelligence. Both the injury of the eye, and its repair were verified by the witness and his wife, and by an amazed doctor. Fernandez with his career in military and law enforcement is an outstanding witness. The description given by Fernandez of his eye healing is reminiscent of other cases. The use of lasers-like lights seems to be pretty much standard in healing cases. Interestingly, today we can cure detached retina with laser therapy. Fernandez’s healing shows that the ETs and humans are using similar methods.

Fernandez, like many other UAP related contact experiencers, reports having multiple healing events. His second healing event occurred in a hospital-room. While this may sound unusual, my own research found that nine percent of known CE healing cases took place in hospital rooms. Again, the healing was verified not only by his wife, a Ph.D. Psychologist, but by X-rays, leaving an upset and confused doctor. In most cases, witnesses do not tell their doctors about their encounters. The extraordinary sine-wave pattern witnessed by Mrs. Fernandez is compelling. Could it be that some strange beam of energy was causing this pattern? In any event, it appears that Mrs. Fernandez witnessed the healing take place, or very nearly so.

The question remains, why was Fernandez healed? It appears that his cooperation with the ETs in their alleged attempts to replenish the genetics of their race may be a factor. It’s a simple conclusion that the ETs are particularly interested in healing people who are important to them. While not always the case, NHI medical healing events are far more common among those who exhibit a lifelong history of extensive contact. Here-in may lie the answer as to who is healed and why. It is interesting to note that Alberto and his wife Rebeca have visited with contactee, Sixto Paz Wells, on multiple occasions and have had many up close UAP contact sightings and contact with NHI during these trips to Peru and Chile. Fernandez describes entering a “Xendra,” or energetic portal. There is another account of a CE healing which comes from a gentleman who received a healing to his swollen legs after visiting with Wells and going through a “Xendra” experience.^(9)

References

  1. Vallee, Jacques. The Invisible College. New York: E.P. Dutton, 1976

9. Randazzo, Joseph. Contactees: The Manuscript. Studio City, CA: The UFO Library, Limited, 1993. (See Chapter 3) 

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u/Contactunderground — 25 days ago
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The astounding UAP healings experienced by retired DEA Special Agent Alberto Fernandez are described in this report.

The first was repair of his cornea that had been torn off from a fall. The second case was the healing of a large chest mass that almost certainly was malignant. Remarkably this healing reportedly occurred while in the X-ray suite of a Miami Hospital.  

For the complete detailed report, the following link is provided:

https://www.reddit.com/r/ContactUnderground/comments/1k3s2wh/two_dramatic_uap_healing_events_in_a_retired_dea/

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u/Contactunderground — 25 days ago
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The astounding UAP healings experienced by retired DEA Special Agent Alberto Fernandez are described in this report.

The first was repair of his cornea that had been torn off from a fall. The second case was the healing of a large chest mass that almost certainly was malignant. Remarkably this healing reportedly occurred while in the X-ray suite of a Miami Hospital.  

For the complete detailed report, the following link is provided:

https://www.reddit.com/r/ContactUnderground/comments/1k3s2wh/two_dramatic_uap_healing_events_in_a_retired_dea/

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u/Contactunderground — 25 days ago

The astounding UAP healings experienced by retired DEA Special Agent Alberto Fernandez are described in this report.

The first was repair of his cornea that had been torn off from a fall. The second case was the healing of a large chest mass that almost certainly was malignant. Remarkably this healing reportedly occurred while in the X-ray suite of a Miami Hospital.  

For the complete detailed report, the following link is provided:

https://www.reddit.com/r/ContactUnderground/comments/1k3s2wh/two_dramatic_uap_healing_events_in_a_retired_dea/

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u/Contactunderground — 25 days ago