u/Due_Stick3002

Why do some Liberal Pakistani Muslims pick and choose what they follow

This is something that's been on my mind:

I see a lot of people who call themselves muslim but then label parts of islam as "too conservative" or outdated. like they'll accept some things but reject others completely bcz it doesn't fit their liberal views.

im not even saying im a good muslim or anything. im not. i struggle to pray 5 times a day and im in a relationship that i know is haram. but at least i know its wrong i dont try to justify it or change the rules js so that i can make myself feel better.

at the end of the day if islam clearly says something is right or wrong then our personal opinions dont really change that. we can struggle with it thats human but acting like our opinion overrides it doesnt make sense.

sometimes this comes up in topics people argue about a lot. like marriage laws islam allows marriage after puberty (with maturity too) but people were criticizing the bill that was proposed saying 'ye tu sb tu pedophile hein'.. when Islam allows marriage after puberty who are you to question it.

same with roles in family and work. youll hear people say "aurat ki zimmedari nahi hai ghr ki" but in islam a womans first responsibility is her household and children. if she wants to work thats fine but that doesnt change the priority. you cant js ignore that part bcz it doesnt fit what you prefer.

If you don't want to marry, don't it's not farz but if u do,and im not saying this randomly like my own mother is a working woman. she worked bcz our situation allowed it my grandparents and my aunt were there so things at home were managed. but not everyone has that setup. a lot of women ignore their responsibilities at home and js say they wanna work when their first priority shouldnt be their job.

like even in normal life you see it. deen becomes "personal" when someone doesn't like an Islamic Rule and people push independence and careers (which isnt even haram) but completely reject responsibilities in family life js bcz they dont like it. and instead of saying "im wrong" people try to change whats halal and haram itself.

and whenever someone actually tries to explain fiqh or correct this stuff they just get labeled as "conservative" or "stone age mindset" instead of people actually listening to the point. (The same is gonna happen down here with me)

and then when it comes to pakistan it gets even more confusing. this country was literally made with an islamic identity so obviously islamic laws are gonna be part of it. yeah theyre not even properly followed rn and theres a lot of hypocrisy in the system at the state level.

but then why do people get so triggered at the idea of islamic laws here like what were you expecting pakistan to be based on.

at the same time i dont think the government should be forcing stuff like hijab on a state level.

idk i js feel like people want the label of being muslim without actually accepting what comes with it.

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u/Due_Stick3002 — 11 days ago
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Why do some Liberal Pakistani Muslims pick and choose what they follow

This is something that's been on my mind:

I see a lot of people who call themselves muslim but then label parts of islam as "too conservative" or outdated. like they'll accept some things but reject others completely bcz it doesn't fit their liberal views.

im not even saying im a good muslim or anything. im not. i struggle to pray 5 times a day and im in a relationship that i know is haram. but at least i know its wrong i dont try to justify it or change the rules js so that i can make myself feel better.

at the end of the day if islam clearly says something is right or wrong then our personal opinions dont really change that. we can struggle with it thats human but acting like our opinion overrides it doesnt make sense.

sometimes this comes up in topics people argue about a lot. like marriage laws islam allows marriage after puberty (with maturity too) but people were criticizing the bill that was proposed saying 'ye tu sb tu pedophile hein'.. when Islam allows marriage after puberty who are you to question it.

same with roles in family and work. youll hear people say "aurat ki zimmedari nahi hai ghr ki" but in islam a womans first responsibility is her household and children. if she wants to work thats fine but that doesnt change the priority. you cant js ignore that part bcz it doesnt fit what you prefer.

If you don't want to marry, don't it's not farz but if u do,and im not saying this randomly like my own mother is a working woman. she worked bcz our situation allowed it my grandparents and my aunt were there so things at home were managed. but not everyone has that setup. a lot of women ignore their responsibilities at home and js say they wanna work when their first priority shouldnt be their job.

like even in normal life you see it. deen becomes "personal" when someone doesn't like an Islamic Rule and people push independence and careers (which isnt even haram) but completely reject responsibilities in family life js bcz they dont like it. and instead of saying "im wrong" people try to change whats halal and haram itself.

and whenever someone actually tries to explain fiqh or correct this stuff they just get labeled as "conservative" or "stone age mindset" instead of people actually listening to the point. (The same is gonna happen down here with me)

and then when it comes to pakistan it gets even more confusing. this country was literally made with an islamic identity so obviously islamic laws are gonna be part of it. yeah theyre not even properly followed rn and theres a lot of hypocrisy in the system at the state level.

but then why do people get so triggered at the idea of islamic laws here like what were you expecting pakistan to be based on.

at the same time i dont think the government should be forcing stuff like hijab on a state level.

idk i js feel like people want the label of being muslim without actually accepting what comes with it.

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u/Due_Stick3002 — 11 days ago

Why do some Muslims pick and choose what they follow(Rant kinda)

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This is something that's been on my mind :

I see a lot of people who call themselves muslim but then label parts of islam as “too conservative” or outdated. like they’ll accept some things but reject others completely bcz it doesn't fit their liberal views.

im not even saying im a good muslim or anything. im not. i struggle to pray 5 times a day and im in a relationship that i know is haram. but at least i know its wrong i dont try to justify it or change the rules js so that i can make myself feel better.

at the end of the day if islam clearly says something is right or wrong then our personal opinions dont really change that. we can struggle with it thats human but acting like our opinion overrides it doesnt make sense.

sometimes this comes up in topics people argue about a lot. like marriage laws islam allows marriage after puberty (with maturity too) but people were criticizing the bill that was proposed saying 'ye tu sb tu pedophile hein'.. when Islam allows marriage after puberty who are you to question it.

same with roles in family and work. youll hear people say “aurat ki zimmedari nahi hai ghr ki” but in islam a womans first responsibility is her household and children. if she wants to work thats fine but that doesnt change the priority. you cant js ignore that part bcz it doesnt fit what you prefer.

If you don't want to marry, don't it's not farz but if u do, fulfill ur responsibilities

and im not saying this randomly like my own mother is a working woman. she worked bcz our situation allowed it my grandparents and my aunt were there so things at home were managed. but not everyone has that setup. a lot of women ignore their responsibilities at home and js say they wanna work when their first priority shouldnt be their job.

like even in normal life you see it. deen becomes “personal" when someone doesn't like an Islamic Rule and people push independence and careers (which isnt even haram) but completely reject responsibilities in family life js bcz they dont like it. and instead of saying “im wrong” people try to change whats halal and haram itself.

and whenever someone actually tries to explain fiqh or correct this stuff they just get labeled as “conservative” or “stone age mindset” instead of people actually listening to the point. (The same is gonna happen down here with me)

and then when it comes to pakistan it gets even more confusing. this country was literally made with an islamic identity so obviously islamic laws are gonna be part of it. yeah theyre not even properly followed rn and theres a lot of hypocrisy in the system at the state level.

but then why do people get so triggered at the idea of islamic laws here like what were you expecting pakistan to be based on.

at the same time i dont think the government should be forcing stuff like hijab on a state level.

idk i js feel like people want the label of being muslim without actually accepting what comes with it.

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u/Due_Stick3002 — 11 days ago

Need a RTX 2060 Laptop ISB (that doesn't look like a spaceship and isn't too heavy)

Yes I am looking for a gaming laptop with wn RTX 2060 used but in good condition.

My budget is 150-160k, and it shouldn't be a Victus or ASUS TUF btw.

And No I can't increase my budget so don't come sayin' that an RTX 2060 isn't good anymore.

Other than that my Location is ISB, if anyone is selling or knows any shop near I-9. Do hit me up. Thanks

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u/Due_Stick3002 — 12 days ago

Hey Guys, I have these two options, and I can't decide between both. (i am gonna use both for gaming btw)

Lenovo legion offere like 20% better performance, whole ASUS has better build quality, portability, premium feel.

Help me decide between both please.

NOTE : IDC ABT FUTURE PROOFING, AS I AM GONNA CHANGE IT AFTER 2 YEARS WHEN I GET INTO UNI ANYWAYS.

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u/Due_Stick3002 — 20 days ago

Hey Guys, I have these two options, and I can't decide between both. (i am gonna use both for gaming btw)

Lenovo legion offere like 20% better performance, whole ASUS has better build quality, portability, premium feel.

Help me decide between both please.

NOTE : IDC ABT FUTURE PROOFING, AS I AM GONNA CHANGE IT AFTER 2 YEARS WHEN I GET INTO UNI ANYWAYS.

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u/Due_Stick3002 — 20 days ago
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Hey Guys, I have these two options, and I can't decide between both. (i am gonna use both for gaming btw)

Lenovo legion offere like 20% better performance, whole ASUS has better build quality, portability, premium feel.

Help me decide between both please.

NOTE : IDC ABT FUTURE PROOFING, AS I AM GONNA CHANGE IT AFTER 2 YEARS WHEN I GET INTO UNI ANYWAYS.

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u/Due_Stick3002 — 20 days ago

The title is pretty self explanatory, but i'll elaborate more.

I used to play MC long ago, like in 2020, downloaded it again yesterday and started playing again. Back in those days I used to play with my brother. Now they all have Unis and no time.

So I was looking for peeps from Pakistan, who know of any SMP(chaotic) or if anyone js wanna start a survival world together.

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u/Due_Stick3002 — 21 days ago

Hello, the title is pretty self explanatory, I am looking for a 2060 Laptop (not victus please). Preferably Legion or ASUS.

It should have 16 GB Ram.

AT LEAST 9/10 CONDITION. (ISB)

My budget is 150-160k..

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u/Due_Stick3002 — 21 days ago

Hello, the title is pretty self explanatory, I am looking for a 2060 Laptop (not victus please). Preferably Legion or ASUS.

It should have 16 GB Ram.

AT LEAST 9/10 CONDITION.

My budget is 150-160k..

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u/Due_Stick3002 — 21 days ago

Hello, the title is pretty self explanatory, I am looking for a 2060 Laptop (not victus please). Preferably Legion or ASUS.

It should have 16 GB Ram.

AT LEAST 9/10 CONDITION. (ISLAMABAD)

My budget is 150-160k..

If anyone has one, comment below or just dm me

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u/Due_Stick3002 — 21 days ago

I am new to gaming and was thinking of buying a laptop for the first time.

So I wanted to ask if I get an HP Victus with a 3060, what should be my expectations.

My goal is to have 1080p - 50-60fps - mixed high ultra graphics... Is this realistic or too much?

And if y'll have one, what's ur exp with it ?

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u/Due_Stick3002 — 25 days ago