This is all copied over from this thread on VSBW made by BattleHawks0670, so be sure to check out that thread so you can see the continued debate in the comment section of that forum post. I'm just posting it here to encourage debate and see what this sub thinks of this scaling.

1.0 Introduction

So, I’m aware that there’s like a fixed revision in Invincible (Verse) scaling that kinda ranks the high tiers around the tiers of Low 5-B (examples: Thragg, Dinosaurus, Omni Man and Mark Grayson.) and ranks the low-mid tiers in around the ranges of the tiers 10 through 6 (particularly Athlete Level-Large Country Level.)

However, I’ve discovered an acceptable way of possibly shifting the Immortal up to the Low-5B tier.

Do note, I am not really an all-time member so bear with me here. Lemme know if I missed any chainscaling regarding the re-scaling.

2.0 Chainscaling with BoS Invincible

Now, I am gonna restate some of the recent Re-Scaling of Invincible’s Earth Heroes which consists of characters like Brit, Bulletproof and the Immortal being around BOS Mark’s level. This is mainly due to characters such as Tether Tyrant, a supervillain who is capable of harming Beginning of Series Mark and even impress a later stronger version of him with his strength.

And in future stories, it is shown that Brit is capable of generating enough attack power into being able to actually knock out Tether Tyrant through the use of his Jet Gloves.

https://preview.redd.it/w7rr5pofwcbh1.png?width=760&format=png&auto=webp&s=76944013756731401c2b1bacc7a7b2544da81ad3

Earlier on in comics, it is demonstrated that BoS Mark has a feat of driving Allen’s body into the moon which was calculated to about Large Country Level or High 6-B. So with this being said, Tether Tyrant being able to harm this same Invincible with a single punch and in turn gives him the High-6B rating as well.

While Brit’s feat was mainly achieved with equipment, it is treated as apart of his Attack Potency.

So with this, Brit is granted Large Country Level

In a battle with the creature known as Gorgg, Bulletproof is able to withstand an attack from it. This same character was previously able to damage one of Brit’s Jet Gloves.

Zandale also contributes in being able to knock out the Giant alongside Brit. And additionally should be comparable to mid tier guardian characters like Kaboomerang who can harm the likes of Octoboss with his boomerangs.

https://preview.redd.it/f1gi7kthwcbh1.png?width=760&format=png&auto=webp&s=51c9be4275eec80151cf4009b7ce8febcc02cb8e

So Bulletproof with these plus my own additional information, is granted Large Country Level as well.

In the Guarding the Globe comic series, we are actually informed that next to Invincible, the Immortal is considered a big gun amongst the Guardians of the Globe.
This very panel portrays the Immortal to be the strongest guardian on the team as well as being one of the only heroes to be selected to venture down into the intense heat and pressure of volcanic vents in order to disarm one of Dinosaurus’s bombs (will be brought back up later.)

https://preview.redd.it/9qpo3uojwcbh1.png?width=1280&format=png&auto=webp&s=bc297d8abaf5927677c42102b06cd47ee443aaba

Which of course didn’t exclude Brit because of his invulnerability but excluded the likes of Bulletproof and other guardians.

And if this page is anything to really go by, the Immortal states he is fully capable of taking out BoS Mark prior to the Sequid Invasion. Even shrugging aside Mark’s own response in claiming he held his own against Nolan longer than the Immortal, which even though that’s obviously not the case.

https://preview.redd.it/f22jwfwmwcbh1.png?width=760&format=png&auto=webp&s=5fa42a2b8db3a7a201570312db39ec966a38aa5b

But if anything this is more of a case of them being in each others league.

So overall, The Immortal is considered the strongest member on the Guardians of the Globe which automatically places him around the Large Country Level rating in power but I will present a list of things that may warrant Immortal for an even greater rating in Tier.
3.0 Immortal Upgrade
Alright, let’s get into it.

So, during the issues of Robot’s takeover of Earth, there was a coordinated elimination of basically all the heroes on Earth that would potentially oppose Rudy in his plans of world domination.

Characters with a page already on the wiki, such as Black Samson (Listed Tier of 7-B) were victims in this attack as Black Samson was effortlessly taken out by an upgraded automaton of Robot with a single shot of its energy beam. It should also be noted that characters like Yeti, who are portrayed to be stronger than Black Samson and being capable of harming Octoboss were also overpowered by these automatons.

https://preview.redd.it/2si020zpwcbh1.png?width=1280&format=png&auto=webp&s=23f2172035c3db18dc4adabc84b949228320f1c2

https://preview.redd.it/qqilxerqwcbh1.png?width=1280&format=png&auto=webp&s=5bb716b7d7213adf7fc49658993c9533f3fcb82f

Heading over to the specific panel in question, the Immortal is also seen coming under attack of one of these drones if not two of them as he goes onto rescue his family.

On the left side of that top part of the panel, i noted that an upgraded automaton is actually torn in half.

https://preview.redd.it/xtzaa0rrwcbh1.png?width=760&format=png&auto=webp&s=d0c667c6cf5347e21b8cc903f3b4b56f9f093c73

Now we don’t actually see the Immortal actually battle this particular drone on panel, but if I had to guess then this would mean the Immortal was actually able to take out one of these guys off panel.

Now do keep in mind, any other hero or being on Earth that wasn’t a Viltrumite (aside from Brit with his son) was unable to take out a single drone at the time, which those automatons have been accepted to Small Planet Level.

This is particularly due to the fact that these drones have a sort of power level on the level of that of a Viltrumite. An example of this is shown when an automaton of Rudy was sent to combat Donald who organizes a horde of Invincible Reanimen to assist him in taking out the specific drone.

However, this doesn’t go so well for Donald as it turns out these automatons were able to easily punch apart the Invincible Reanimen.

https://preview.redd.it/hg3vsrntwcbh1.png?width=1280&format=png&auto=webp&s=6bab4b8259dcabf10fb7a81c8c4bc8bd27a9df86

These same reanimated variants of Mark Grayson were previously able to pose a threat to Middle Series Invincible and Dinosaurus.

https://preview.redd.it/pxb1zg0vwcbh1.png?width=1041&format=png&auto=webp&s=454f38c74e917f84a2decbe011eb533d241ce276

And Rudy admits himself that they can kill viltrumites in an all-out war .

https://preview.redd.it/1uha1y1wwcbh1.png?width=1041&format=png&auto=webp&s=6706efbedfcd4daf9a245dcf2cad7c41b297c74d

It should also be noted again that the Immortal is considered one of the big guns next to Invincible in the Guardians of the Globe.

Which would put him considerably above characters like Monster Girl, who were also able to dismantle Robot’s automatons.

https://preview.redd.it/g57gvh3xwcbh1.png?width=760&format=png&auto=webp&s=a99df4c68512858eccd5e04afeacf21250d91d11

Now you might consider Robot War scaling to be a little wonky here and there since heroes are doing things they seemingly shouldn’t be able to do, but when it comes to characters like Monster Girl here it should be stated that her powers are kind of fixed with the belt to where I assume that whenever she uses her powers she actually continues to grow in strength while maintaining a stable age instead of getting younger.

And the Immortal does have equivalent power levels to viltrumites in terms of Smart Atom based DNA so his potential to grow isn’t much of a surprise.

https://preview.redd.it/8vy5q8xxwcbh1.png?width=293&format=png&auto=webp&s=d68e639c9332a112708a88d8dff9a5740cbb37d0

It should be mentioned that characters like Atom Eve are even listed in this image, who’s powers grow to the point where she can actually hold her own against the Viltrumite elite Ursaal who matches General Kregg later on in the comics.

Additionally, I brought up how Invincible and the Immortal were selected to disarm Dinosaurus’s nuclear weapons. And when a far stronger Mark is taking care of his, he states it’s a tougher task than he thought and was notably impressed by the strength of the housing vessel storing the bomb.

https://preview.redd.it/h08b218zwcbh1.png?width=760&format=png&auto=webp&s=616a62de416243af919d4e56fd45765ff4bdd9c5

Admitting it to be super-dense housing mechanism here.
Later on, it’s revealed around the 9:16 timer mark that both Invincible and the Immortal have gotten through these shells offpanel.

https://preview.redd.it/7o3omzi0xcbh1.png?width=760&format=png&auto=webp&s=1cc944735ee5960e32637de0a1f54cabb19683bd

So with all this collected evidence, I propose we upgrade The Immortal’s general Attack Potency to “at least Small Planet Level” while possibly giving Monster Girl a page and maybe even giving her the Low-5B tier as well.

The Immortal Upgrade:
Agree:

Disagree: That_moron2

Neutral: ShionAH, Tyranno223