People who keep bashing the animation of Seven Havens really need to tone it down

People who keep bashing the animation of Seven Havens really need to tone it down

I mean yeah, the animation has fr gotten worse but I don’t think most people realize how huge of a cost factor animation is for shows like this.

On top of that, we shouldn’t forget that Paramount has been cutting costs actively since the merger and they clearly haven’t shown much faith in the Avatar franchise either as we saw with the disastrous release of the Aang movie and the cancellation of the Avatar game (which even boiled the uncle iroh VA)

The fact that this shareholder driven company even greenlit a new series with 26 episodes as of now is already kind of a miracle. So honestly, I’d rather have a well written, complete story with enough episodes than a top tier animated series that gets cancelled after the first season because it didn’t meet expectations and with a second season at that level of animation being financially unrealistic anyway

u/Fickle-Classroom1487 — 11 days ago

Imagine Sanji’s power-up in Elbaf just being that he can “control his Ifrit Jambe better now” and that he has to use it against Elbaf’s absolute hype-tool bum

Y‘all can say whatever u want but zoro fighting bummers and his recycled power up was not executed well

u/Fickle-Classroom1487 — 11 days ago

How do we feel about Zoros match-up being the bonni blue of one piece while also getting the same recycled power-up from wano?

Yo Oda stop disrespecting my goat and making him to a cook‘s equal 😤

u/Fickle-Classroom1487 — 15 days ago

As a Zoro Fan, his power up is kinda lame

Oda literally recycled Zoro’s Wano power-up and gave it to him again. He literally didn’t even change the design. Meanwhile Sanji gets ACoC this arc and back in Wano he got Ifrit Jambe, which already had him pretty much equal to Zoro.

Ngl, I was really hoping for a Black Blade or something

u/Fickle-Classroom1487 — 15 days ago

The dumbest argument from Zorotards

„If sanji started using his hands, it wouldn’t make him any stronger because he specializes in fighting with his legs.”

That might genuinely be one of the dumbest thing you could hear from Zorotards.

That’s like saying McGregor would not become a stronger mma fighter if he suddenly started using his hands while fighting exclusively with his legs. Being specialized in kicking doesn’t mean having your hands available adds nothing. Fighters literally use their hands for punching, blocking, parrying, grabbing, controlling, etc. your Hands are literally the Most important tool in fighting and sanji has them most of the time in his pockets even though he could easily use ifrit jambe on them and defeat his opps even faster.

Zoro using his legs would add nothing to his fighting style, but Sanji using his hands would add everything. It should be clear that Sanji using his Hands would make him way stronger than Zoro and most Zorotards know this.

u/Fickle-Classroom1487 — 2 months ago

To this day, it still scares me how catastrophically bad Zorotards’ reading comprehension is

„Gaban is ignoring this bum.” „Conqueror’s Haki for Sanji is finally dead, Oda really hates Nr.4 haha.” “If he had Conqueror’s Haki, why didn’t he react to it like he did with Zoro?”

Fr I’m not kidding, even my 4 y/o cousin would’ve recognized that all of this was foreshadowing. U can’t blame it on agenda either because even if it were a character I absolutely hated instead of Sanji, I would’ve immediately realized that Oda was hiding an important conversation and an indirect confirmation here.

I think this is just another piece of evidence that Zoro and Nami fans have the worst reading comprehension

u/Fickle-Classroom1487 — 2 months ago

Mark my words: Imu is still a woman

The body shape and outfit still strongly suggest that Imu is a woman. I’m 100% convinced that the Imu we see in Elbaf is only a physical manifestation, while Imu’s true form is still in Mary Geoise and is female.

The muscular Imu in Elbaf doesn’t look like someone who would walk through a flower garden in a long robe and veil covering their face while admiring butterflies.

I think it’ll be similar to Masquerade from Bakugan, who was actually female.

u/Fickle-Classroom1487 — 2 months ago

I hope that if the theories about Vaatu returning are true, we’ll get both a female and a male Avatar in the next series.

Honestly, if they handle the whole light and dark Avatar concept well, it has insane potential. Just imagine the next Fire Nation Avatar generation being a male and a female Avatar and we get a storyline similar to Eren/Mikasa from AOT, Anakin/Padme from Star Wars or Ekko and Jinx from Arcane:

two Avatars who meet and develop feelings for each other, but the one who embodies the Dark Avatar slowly gives in to the darkness and eventually becomes the antagonist.

And since Raava and Vaatu are also male and female, it wouldn’t even feel weird or forced. Or imagine if the next Light Avatar is a female Firebender, while the Dark Avatar follows an opposite cycle and is a male Waterbender. Either way, there’s honestly so much potential for future storylines with this concept.

u/Fickle-Classroom1487 — 2 months ago

Say what u want but Gaban clears Rayleigh in terms of writing

Already set the path for M3 for their next awakening just by casually scolding them

u/Fickle-Classroom1487 — 2 months ago
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Do you think Gaban’s hand will be reattached again?

Gaban has one of the most unique and coolest fighting styles as a dual axe wielder. If Oda takes away one of his hands, he’s basically taking away his entire fighting style as well.

Do you think Chopper will reattach his hand like he did with Gerd’s finger? Maybe Lilith could also experiment and give him some kind of mechanical prosthetic yk

u/Fickle-Classroom1487 — 2 months ago
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It’s honestly crazy how badly Sanji would’ve been slandered into oblivion if this bum had been his matchup instead.

This is seriously insane. The guy took loss after loss, but because he casually blocked Zoro’s strongest attack, he’s suddenly Admiral level. Imagine if it had been Ifrit Jambe getting blocked instead people wouldn’t have scaled this bum to Admiral level, nah nah, instead they would’ve used it to downscale Sanji to being hard-stuck YC2 lol.

That’s why this one-sided agenda war is so dumb. For years it’s mostly been delusional, insecure Zoro fans hating on Sanji for no reason because they can’t stand the fact that some goofy simp a$$ cook who constantly nerfs himself in every possible way is still almost as strong as their „goat“ who does 1,000 push ups and 500 pull ups a day.

Meanwhile, Sanji fans are just trying to enjoy the moments of their favorite character.

u/Fickle-Classroom1487 — 2 months ago

Just two or three more chapters until Sanji takes the last thing that ever put Zoro above him

Zoro fans were so confident that Sanji could never get it because it would make him too overpowered and put him above Zoro. Well, it looks like that might actually be exactly what’s happening.

And honestly, the chances of Zoro getting some new power-up beyond stronger Conquerors Haki are looking extremely slim lol

u/Fickle-Classroom1487 — 2 months ago

Why did Zoro became such a one dimensional boring bum after time skip?

When I watch the old episodes, it’s honestly crazy how different Zoro used to be. The guy actually had personality back then. He was cool without having to act like some wannabe edgelord. It’s wild what they’ve turned him into nowadays. We’ll probably never see his goofy or hot-headed side again.

u/Fickle-Classroom1487 — 2 months ago

From a writing perspective, I think Elbaf Sanji is going to be better executed than Wano Zoro

Wano Zoro was definitely insane, especially considering that before Wano a lot of people thought he’d lose to Cracker in an extreme-diff fight. Imo though, Oda wanked him way too hard and completely fckd up powerscaling discussions for the next 5 years. It’s only since Elbaf that things have started to feel balanced again, and most Zorotards have finally come down from their high horse with their delusional luffy>=zoro>sanji takes.

That being said, I still think Elbaf Sanji will end up being far more interesting than Wano Zoro not because of feats, but because of the narrative. People are excited to see how he’ll awaken Conqueror’s Haki, what kind of king he’ll become, and what internal struggles and conflicts he’ll have to overcome.

Personally, I’m way more hyped for Sanji in Elbaf. On top of that, neither of them is going to get wanked to the moon this time. They’ll both get comparable fights, but the narrative focus will be on Sanji.

u/Fickle-Classroom1487 — 3 months ago

This was revealed way before the trailer, so I do think we’re indeed getting a Dark Avatar

I’m also pretty sure Pavi is going to be the one who hosts Vaatu

u/Fickle-Classroom1487 — 3 months ago

This is probably the most important panel the Sanji fandom has ever gotten.

For years, Zoro fans and other agendaheads kept insisting Sanji would never reach a high level because he’d never fight an opponent strong enough. “Luffy has Imu, Zoro has Mihawk etc“ 🤡

Now we finally have definitive confirmation that Sanji is destined to reach PK level. With ACoC now confirmed, it’s only logical that he’ll face Mars in the final war.

Just look at how much stronger Sommers became. He went from YC3 to at least YC+ thanks to the Omen buffs and his family’s Divine Weapon. The Marcus family most likely possesses an even stronger weapon. And that’s on top of the fact that Mars was already at least OG Admiral level with just his awakened Yokai Df and Conquerors Haki.

Give him the Divine Weapon and the Omen buffs as well, and he’s easily High Yonko level, if not outright PK level.

u/Fickle-Classroom1487 — 3 months ago

Yup, I was right Zoro and Sanji defeating the Gorosei will push them to PK Lvl

Zoro is literally getting overwhelmed by Sommers, and he couldn’t even scratch him with the same attack that defeated King. This is the same Sommers who was, at best YC3 before the buffs, and is now overwhelming a YC+ fighter.

The Gorosei especially Mars, Nusjuro, and Warcury are all probably on par with, if not stronger than, the original Admirals. With Imu’s buffs (the strongest Abyss mark, Omen, awakened df’s and legendary weapons), they’re operating in PK/high Yonko territory.

u/Fickle-Classroom1487 — 3 months ago
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Sanji fits the definition of a king more than Zoro does

Before people instantly downvote me:

Zoro definitely has the more ambitious dream, one that requires an incredible amount of willpower to achieve. However, he fits the definition of a king far less than Sanji does.

Not only is Sanji literally of royal blood, but he also possesses the qualities of a noble and compassionate king. His willingness to immediately protect and sacrifice himself for the weak and the people he cares about, treating everyone equally, feeding anyone in need, and standing by his principles even when it means facing death.

These are the traits that have always defined great kings in stories and mythology: compassion, selflessness, justice and putting others before themselves.

The only thing holding him back is his low self-worth but that is going to be be his final requirement for him to awaken his Conqueror’s Haki.

u/Fickle-Classroom1487 — 3 months ago