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It's an honest advice, specially if you don't have sufficient amount of money to finance your whole studies with no stress. I came to study abroad when I was 19/20 to study engineering after working like a rat in my home country and toxic household, I also had a ldr relationship and I thought huh I will just study abroad, get my degree come back and get a good job, sounds straightforward right? No, during my first year abroad, I experienced severe psychosis and anger towards my past and the loneliness physically hurt not just mentally to the point there were some days I couldn't get out of bed to go uni from the physical pain and stress I was experiencing. The thing that affected me the most was my ldr, and being 20, young, and naive got the worst out of me.

Nowadays, I'm nearly 24 and I'm just empty and emotionless, severe ahedonia and while I don't have outbursts of anger, I just don't have interest for anything anymore. My sincere advice, is to really sit down and evaluate your situation wether it's actually worth it, specially if you don't know if it's short term or long term.

En redes se ve que dicen que nooo que los salvadoreños son cálidos y sociales, gente abierta, lista para ser servicial pero en mi experiencia cuando aún vivía en el país nada que ver, al cumplir la mayoría de edad me di cuenta la lacra de personas que me rodeaban y como todas las "amistades" de antes te daban la espalda y como te intentan hacer la camita en el trabajo. Había visto que los Europeos son fríos, antisociales y cerrados y en mi experiencia ni los Europeos son tan hechos mierdas como en El Salvador, irónicamente tengo más vida social y amistades afuera, qué opinan ustedes?

Como dice el título llevo ya varios años afuera del país porque no soportaba a mis tatas y un empleo salvadoreño. Puedo sonar cristalito o delicado, pero la verdad bastó solo 7 meses en call center (telus) para irme a la mierda y nunca más volver a trabajar otro empleo salvadoreño. Y eso que ganaba casi 1000 y eran solo correos y chats, pero trabajaba sábados y domingos.

Quería un trabajito normal de oficina y terminar a las 3 o 4 de la tarde y no sé disfrutar la vida; ir a las ruedas, festivales, algo normalito, pero nah. Veía bichos universitarios estudiando cualquier carrera pedorra y jodiendo, tomando haciendo desmadre y pensé que si hacía una carrera en el extranjero, iba a tener mi trabajito chiche donde me rasque los huevos pero ya me fije que todo es puro cuello y a las empresas les vale verga tu título y que todo está caro.

Y pues la verdad yo soy antisocial, no me gustó nunca salir, ni andar tomando o de fiesta, prefiría andar jugando videojuegos, pero hay un límite jajajaja no soporto trabajar en call center o a madrugar solo para poder tener lo del super. Trabajaría duro, si tuviera un hijo, esposa y eso, pero nambre era hijo único, solo quería estar tranquilo viendo netflix o mis hobbies y me estaban chingando y obligando a trabajar cuando no tengo ninguna obligación ni responsabilidad, por lo que se podría decir que efectivamente ando fuera del país pendejeando sin rumbo alguno, solo para evitar trabajar un empleo salvadoreño

If you got a job, were you able to save a lot and have a comfortable life

Edit: more details about the question, students who came in the last 2 to 5 years, field: IT, engineering, law, etc

I'm finishing college computer science and that was already very hard to handle and working part time, I had episodes of severe depression and mal nutrition and gain weigh and that was just college! I just don't think I will be able to handle responsability when getting a full time job, specially since the older I get the more I get away from humans to deal as little as possible with them and have panic attacks the moment I face a little inconvenience at work.

The only jobs I would be able to handle would be remote where I answer few emails and work 4 hours a day max, but the job market seems to only get harsher and harsher and I just don't have the strength to deal with it. Customer service jobs scare me really badly, physical jobs also scare me and even an office job because I feel dizzy been trapped 8-9 hours a day, and also I'm very introverted and often scared to even leave my apartment, what should I do?

Seriously, I love Germany there are many things to do, to see, many sports, hobbies, you can get into skating, dancing, mma, volleyball, play uni sports, climbing, arcade games but the problem is I don't feel I can't enjoy it till I'm very financially secure.

That's the reason, I don't even try to date, and just do the same thing over and over again, going to the gym, studying, working maybe an occasional hangout like playing bowling or some party but other than that 99% of my days look the same, in hopes one day I can land a pretty good job and have some big amount of savings.

So I dont think Germany is cold boring and depressing as some people say, in fact it can be pretty fun to live here and I'm latino, come from warmer country and I think Germany is ten times better. Back home, you only live to work and not work to live. The problem in Germany, is that... I often get nightmares that I'm deported for breaking some rule; or losing my job unexpectedly (it already happened with my previous company), so I live with a little bit of constant stress, that's why I do the same thing over and over till I see some progress. Sure, maybe I wouldn't feel this way in Spain or Portugal or some other country but Germany is overall much more fun personally (except for the cold winters), if I had to select a country where I would want to be rich and enjoy, it would always be Germany.

I hope nobody thinks I mean a "millionaire"; it means at least 120k

Already missed out on teenage love, 20s not going so well, but I still want to experience that innocent and naive love and having fun dates while I still have a lil bit of energy if I don't get that by 30, I will completely give up and just live for myself, that age will be boring af to date. I know this, cuz I just plan to chill at home by 30 and only go to the gym

I despise nearly everything and even getting rich isn't going to help, there's just so many things that pisses me off on a daily basis. I only wanted to keep going because I had a girlfriend but we broke up months ago and now I genuinely just want to drop everything and just play videogames. The idea of meeting another girl, talking to her, dating, living together doesn't seem fun at all, specially during my 20s, I feel more comfortable rotting in my bed.

Life only seemed fun when I was a teenager, christmas were exciting, every hangout was amazing and the idea of a girlfriend was more than exciting, but now adulthood comes with hardship, loss, illness, misery, hunger and I genuinely just don't see the point. I deeply wish, I could return back to 15, cuz being 23 is more than horrible, I can't imagine the shitty feeling I will jave at 30. Genuinely, the food sucks, movies sucks, taking care of your body is too much work, going to the gym is boring, grinding 9-5 is boring as hell and It's not like highschool was that exciting but at least I had a predictable routine and was fine with it. I wish I had that innocence back and not experience adutlhood again

This might sound ridiculous and immature and I know I should focus in other things like my job, health, etc, but it comes to a point I'm just so depressed because I can't experience love. I missed out on teenage love, then college love and I try to pretend I'm strong and don't care about relationships or love but it hits hard at 1 am. I'm 23 and I know Germany is not the best country for love but I can't go back to my country because of political inestability. And other people seem to be only in Germany just for their partner and I'm like, why am I even here, funnily enough I had a girlfriend back in country and had 0 reason to come to Germany, except for the bad economy and the trash family I had back there and we obviously didn't last long.

I'm a little scared I might end up a social reject and a hermit when I'm 40 because it doesn't seem I will be leaving Germany soon and each year gets progressively worse for me. I will focus on money for the moment and hopefully hit at least 50k on savings by 26/27 but damn

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Als internationaler Student habe ich immer mehr das Gefühl, dass wir vielleicht die letzte Generation sein werden, für die das klassische Modell „studieren, Werkstudentenjob finden und danach eine Karriere in Deutschland aufbauen“ noch halbwegs funktioniert.

Alles wird immer teurer. Die Lebenshaltungskosten steigen ständig, während es gefühlt immer weniger Werkstudentenstellen gibt. Gleichzeitig studieren die meisten internationalen Studierenden, die ich kenne, Informatik oder irgendeine Ingenieurswissenschaft – also genau die Bereiche, die inzwischen völlig überlaufen wirken. Und praktisch niemand wird seine Zeit mit dem Studium von Jura, Chemie oder Pharmazie verschwenden, denn das sind Berufe, die ausschließlich für Deutscher sind.

Vor ein paar Jahren wurde uns erzählt, Informatik sei das goldene Ticket. Ich selbst gehöre zu den Leuten, die 2022 mit dieser Vorstellung nach Deutschland gekommen sind. Ja, ich habe einen Werkstudentenjob gefunden, aber wenn ich mir den enormen Aufwand des Studiums anschaue und ihn mit dem heutigen Arbeitsmarkt vergleiche, frage ich mich zunehmend, ob sich das alles noch lohnt. Jetzt, wo ich langsam mit dem Studium fertig werde, sieht die Lage nicht so gut aus.

Sogar einer meiner Professoren meinte kürzlich, dass viele Studiengänge heute kaum noch echte Jobgarantien bieten. BWL ist komplett tot beispielsweise. Die Automobilindustrie steckt in schwierigen Zeiten. Über die Situation in der Informatik weiß jeder was das Problem ist. Und wenn man unbedingt einen Job haben möchte, landet man oft bei Bereichen wie Sozialarbeit oder Pflege – Berufe, die zwar wichtig sind, aber oft nicht besonders attraktiv bezahlt werden.

Deutschland war lange ein sehr attraktives Ziel für internationale Studierende. Mittlerweile bin ich mir nicht mehr sicher, ob das in 5 Jahren noch so sein wird. Es macht mich nachdenklich, wenn ich sehe, wie viele Menschen hohe Schulden aufnehmen, um hier zu studieren, während selbst Werkstudentenstellen zunehmend schwer zu finden sind.

Mein Eindruck ist, dass langfristig vor allem Gesundheitsberufe und körperlich anspruchsvolle Tätigkeiten gefragt bleiben werden. Das Problem ist nur: Viele Menschen specially Ausländer wollen genau solche Berufe gar nichts machen. Die meisten träumen von einem gut bezahlten Remote-Arbeit wo man Eier schaukeln kann, wenn wir ehrlich sind.

Vielleicht sehe ich die Situation zu pessimistisch. Aber aktuell habe ich das Gefühl, dass das Versprechen „Studiere in Deutschland und dir stehen alle Türen offen“ deutlich weniger wahr ist als noch vor einigen Jahren. Tbh ist nicht nur in Deutschland sondern auf die ganze Welt, und deswegen kommen viele zu Deutschland wo si denken, dass die Situation besser sein wird nur weil sie studieren.

Wie seht ihr das?

Your teens and early 20s are supposed to be the best years of your life where you make life-long memories, but since I have failing parents, I had to grind my whole teen and early 20s, just to afford college and also grinded all my way through college, while I missed out on relationships, having a partner, etc. Sure, I made some life long friends but the fact that I will just continue to get older and not younger and everyone else will get a full time job, marry, have children, etc, while I didnt even experience young and innocent love, gets full on my nerves. I definitely do not want to find the love of my life in corporate, I wanted it to be either highschool or university but couldn't connect with anyone, specially being in Germany.

I'm do not want to get married or have kids at all, neither became a corporate slave, I definitely want a loving girlfriend and do dumb stuff together like we are carefree, but it seems impossible after college, since this was supposed to be the last chance to find a partner even if it's temporary in order to be ready for dating later in life. I have none of that! How am I supposed to date in " the real world" when I couldn't even get one in highschool or college

Edit: many say I'm still young and I have my 30s, 40s, 50s and so on. I don't want to meet tye love of my life when I'm 40... i either get it now before 30 or I will end it, I won't care about love when I'm 34 or 50, I either get it now during my 20s so it can be a long life partner or at least a beautiful memory or I end it. Unless I'm very rich in my 30s, then I will still be hopeful for love, but if I'm 30, corporate slave 9-5 and still no girlfriend, I will definitely end it, if I'm being honest

I'm the most loneliest and depressed I've ever been and can't seem myself wanting to live after 30. I have the energy of a 70 year old man, don't even want to go to the gym anymore. Can't even pull a girlfriend, I have no hobbies aside from videogames and even that got boring and tiring. I'm constantly thinking about ending it every day, and I don't even have an unhealthy diet or horrible sleep schedule, it's just that I don't fit in this society. Even if I managed to pull a girlfriend, she would eventually go away due to my really bad social skills, since I'm like NPC, I have no interest in music, dancing, running or anything at all, my life is just working a shitty job and paying useless bills. If I get rich, it won't also matter that much, since I have no personality.

I'm just tired, some kind of tired that can't be fixed with sleep.

Para mí en 2022, el salvador se volvio invivible e infumable. En 2016 aún con las pandillas, inseguridad y violencia, salíamos con mi familia al bahía del sol, todo estaba más vivo, más alegre, y no teníamos tanto dinero.

Let me explain myself, I severely missed out on my teenage years and didn't experience highschool love and also will not experience university love, and I don't want it to be in corporate. However, as a 23 year old being a college student and working part time, I have gone to parties, travelled to countries like Spain, Italy, Hungary, had pool parties, visited nice beaches, went to paris on new year, got drunk and got high with mates, but experiencing all that by myself made me realize it doesn't fulfill me travelling to other countries and going to nice restaurants. That's the reason I don't want a transactional relationship where it all about travelling to restaurants, other countries, museum, concerts, etc. Cuz I already did all of that by myself and it would just be boring.

I'm looking for the purest form of love possible, like going to a park and acting dumb, playing basketball at 3 am while drunk, skateboarding, having a campfire in the forest, paintball, playing games on the phone together grinding them, getting so excited for little things, going to arcade games together, jumping on trampolines, watching movies all day, trying any hobby that crosses our mind. Everything that costs very little money and it's fun. Sure you can maaaaybe do few of these things with a normal adult relationship from time to time, but a normal adult relationship like if I go into corporate and meet someone there, it's usually about a routine, clocking in 9-5 shift and then maybe going to watch a movie at the cinema, waking up for the gym at 7 am and then going to work and then saving up for a vacation in Spain, waiting for the weekend to maybe go to a bar or some restaurant, thats booooooring. I want something spontaneous, pure, sincere, where money barely plays a role, something intense and not a boring routine of work and bills to afford nice dates.

I'm 23 years old and I come from a third world country but studied in Germany, I am an only child and given that I couldn't enjoy my younger years with a girlfriend, I now what to get rich after getting my degree, but to stack tons of money, so I can be eventually be financially pretty well off before 30 and have all the fun dates I want with a girl, I don't want kids, worrying about rent, I simply want to be free and not tied to a job and be pretty busy the whole time worrying about bills.

I wanna grind right now, so I can stack as much money as humnaly possible before 30 and then experiencing love in its purest form and have all the fun dates I dreamed about since I was a teenager. Arcade games, paintball, picnics, pool parks... you name it, I'm not looking for a girlfriend right now because it will feel like transactional love, worrying about work, renting an apartment together, worrying about bills in the restaurant, etc. It's not that I want a luxury life, vacations in dubai, I just wanna have fuuun like a teenager but a rich one. I don't want to wait till the end of the day after a 9-5 shift to have fun with a girl, y'all know what I mean? I want something real, pure, young love instead of a trip to Spain just to watch some buldings and sunset, I simply wanna get all back what I couldn't as a teen, so I prefer to suffer right now and stack as much as possible and live frugally.

Like when I was a teenager I thought the adult world was different and I played videogames with my friends, everything was colorful, joyful and amazing, but as soon as I finished highschool everything went downhill pretty fast. I had another girlfriend who was still in highschool and I couldn't see her or hang out, nothing. I was forced to work some job I hate till I quit but then she started uni and was pretty busy again and my friends too. What I mean to this, is that life pretty much sucks once you start uni or the working world, it ruined my relationship with her and also my concept of love and friends. The only solution to this is to either get rich so I dont have to worry about money ever again at a young age or be borned rich. I despise every single bit of adulthood for this reason and the whole concept of capitalism. I now understand why some people completely refuses to work or go to uni and just play videogames and stay bums in their parents house cuz they are happier than working a stupid job that barely pays the bills.

I come from a family in a third world country, where they think education --> bachelor title is the ticket to golden life, they think someone who was no bachelor is a failure, someone dumb, uneducated. So, I'm here in Germany studying something I don't even like --> CS, just to make them happy. They do not understand, university is not what it used to be, and everyone has masters or bachelors nowadays and end up working menial jobs, specially in my home country. There are many engineers, lawyers, in my country working as food delivery or uber drivers and in Germany the situation it's not that different.

So, here we are in 7th semester with few subjects from 6th semester left, and hoping I can finally live my life and be out of the education system forever and eternity and not worry about an exam ever again in my life. I know in Germany, not even native germans are getting jobs in IT, so why would I think my case is different or special? I also find IT tedious, boring, repetitive and despise the corporate environment, if it were for me, I would have never left my home country and would have done some business, dropshipping or some get rich quick scheme lol but that's not realistic, so I see university more like an experience to make friends and socialize cuz I met good people and I'm still grateful I could study in Germany, although I lost many friends in my home country, I lost my girlfriend due to my parents mentality but yeah this are my thoughts.