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I chose Nightwing because the fans always say he's the DC equivalent to Spiderman Now I wanna see who fans think is the MJ of Nightwing. 👀

Personally, I think MJ and Starfire would get along SO well. They’re both canonically models, love fashion, have big outgoing personalities and would probably hype each other up constantly. (I hope the Barbara Fans who lurk around this sub won't attack me for this)

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Please be careful. They're getting out of hand. Dickbabs shippers are so desperate to harass and silence anyone who doesn't like Barbara or the Dickbabs that they're now creating fake screenshots of ableist comments and spreading them around, claiming DickKory shippers posted them. In reality, they're creating fake Dickkory accounts just to manufacture evidence and smear the fandom and they might do the same in other social media apps.

Doxxing, user stalking, harassment, bullying, death threats and personal insults are rampant in the Dickbabs community. They do it simply because they're mad not everyone likes their favorite ship.

I really do feel bad because I know how it feels. My favorite ship Dickkory also got erased in the comics in favor of Dickbabs.

I noticed that in the current comics, for more than 3 years now, Tim and Steph rarely talked to each other and it seems like DC has made Bernard Tim's main love interest now. (In and out of comics) I'm honestly shocked by how quickly they've included them across different media, like Titans, Gotham Knights and in the Webtoons. I have a feeling they'll also end up together in Young Justice Season 5 because I heard the director said he has plans for Tim to have a bf. So there's probably going to be another time skip where they'll say Tim flirted with Steph before he finally ends up with Bernard. I also wouldn't be surprised if they become a couple in the DCU. I think DC is really committed to Bernard.

So my question is, how do you deal with it? Do you still hope Tim and Steph will get back together someday?

I really do feel bad because I know how it feels. My favorite ship Dickkory also got erased in the comics in favor of Dickbabs.

I noticed that in the current comics, for more than 3 years now, Tim and Steph rarely talked to each other and it seems like DC has made Bernard Tim's main love interest now. (In and out of comics) I'm honestly shocked by how quickly they've included them across different media, like Titans, Gotham Knights and in the Webtoons. I have a feeling they'll also end up together in Young Justice Season 5 because I heard the director said he has plans for Tim to have a bf. So there's probably going to be another time skip where they'll say Tim flirted with Steph before he finally ends up with Bernard. I also wouldn't be surprised if they become a couple in the DCU. I think DC is really committed to Bernard.

So my question is, how do you deal with it? Do you still hope Tim and Steph will get back together someday?

Edit : for those who don't like the ship, please don't resort to personal insults.

Dick's story was about moving beyond Gotham and Batman's world. He quit being Robin because he didn't want to be seen as just a sidekick or live under Batman's shadow. He left Gotham, joined the Titans and became the capable leader of a team full of superpowered heroes despite not having powers himself. Instead of fighting ordinary criminals, he became the Bruce Lee of DC who fought aliens, gods, monsters, demons, psychics and world ending threats.

Then he became Nightwing which was supposed to represent him building his own separate identity that is not defined by Gotham and the Bats. His relationship with Starfire fit that perfectly. She didn't come from Batman's world, she was an alien princess from another planet. Their relationship showed how much bigger Dick's life had become, how his life had expanded far beyond Gotham, reaching the wider DC Universe and even crossing the galaxies. It felt like the next chapter of his life.

Then modern DC turns around and has him go back to Gotham, return to his Gotham childhood crush, leave the Titans behind, portray the Titans as something that holds him back and spend most of his time punching regular street criminals again. He exchanges fantastical and cosmic adventures for ordinary common criminals. His world got smaller instead of bigger. Even Bludhaven was created by the Bat-editorial to be a sister city of Gotham.

Even his role has changed. Dick used to be the leader calling the shots. Instead of being portrayed as an independent, resourceful hero anyone can depend on, he's now shown taking orders from Oracle through an earpiece while she monitors his every move from behind a computer. The same character who once operated confidently on his own is now frequently written as someone who's constantly directed, supervised, and even interrupted during private conversations. He suddenly can't use a computer or investigate his own enemies. He just waits for Oracle to feed him information and he even lets her steal his job and order his own team around. On top of that, he's often written holding himself back so the other Batfamily members can maintain their own unique roles. Tim and Barbara should be the only tech savvy ones, Jason should be the only angry one, so Dick has no choice but to stay as either one happy go lucky himbo or a miserable, dependent idiot who has no clue how to fix his own problems. He is no longer an actual person who can decide for himself, more like someone who's being remotely managed.

And if not for Barbara, he never would have been written as a serial cheater. Dickbabs did lasting damage to the public's perception of his character.