Security guard jobs: what to know before applying, what to know before accepting jobs
I've commented this twice in this subreddit before, figure this is useful if you are considering this role as you continue to apply for jobs in the sector you previously held experience in, or obtained a degree in and haven't found anything yet.
People suggesting you: just apply, it's easy. Yes and no. Pretty much anyone can be hired as a guard, but there are financial hoops to jump. Some security businesses will hire you and pay for your training; this is becoming less and less common as time goes on. Their reasoning is, why pay for someone's training, when so many applicants already have what's required? The applicant pool, like every other sector, is incredibly saturated while the economy has been ruined. It's not 'like a hundred bucks and then you're set.'
Overview:
first chunk of text: 🧗🏽 expenses
second chunk of text: 💬 anecdotal advice
🧗🏽🧗🏽🧗🏽🧗🏽🧗🏽 The upfront costs before the end result is your guard card, in hand, ready to work for anyone, are listed here:
- Mandatory 8 hour training: $50 to $80, depending on who you choose. Know that most companies regardless of price point or tenure have started to implement just beaming YouTube videos or shat out, 'generated' AI 'spokespeople' to relay the information to students taking training. There will be humans sitting in to monitor the videos and AI because that is legally required by the state of New York, but know that these human instructors are phoning it in. Most are also at home watching tv that their backgrounds have barely blurred out. Most are men, and will say and do dumb things men say and do, like make sexist jokes, homophobic jokes, sexual in nature jokes during breaks or before new videos and slides are pulled up.
- Mandatory upon hire 16 hour 'on the job' training: $150 to $200, depending on company you choose. It's best to get this out of the way alongside the 8 hour training, and to purchase them as a package, to reduce your initial expenses. 'Package' training classes are usually also ~$150 together. You can do them together over the span of 2 days or choose to do one, one week, another, another week, if your current work schedule prohibits you from doing this. The companies are extremely lax; they don't care what you do or need, and will work with you to accommodate your schedule because reports of unprofessional business can lead to their being fined, or shuttering. There are lists of legitimate security businesses applicants can utilize for training, in an ancient NYC DoS PDF; If you happen to stumble upon it, I'd say ~40-60% of the businesses listed have shuttered or lost their ability to legally provide training to applicants. Just search 'NYS guard training' and choose whichever business comes up on the first page, that works with your budget and schedule.
- Mandatory by the state of New York fingerprinting: $102.50. Similar to teaching jobs, or jobs in correctional facilities. You cannot complete the mailed-in application without proof of having completed fingerprinting.
- Fee to submit your application into NYS DoS after training and fingerprinting has been completed: $38.
- Mailing the envelope containing your application to NY DoS: ~$3-$5
Overall total: between $300 to $450, depending on your level of laziness or possible ability to snag deals during promotional periods (i.e., 'Memorial Day discount on training courses.')
- Annual renewal of training certificates is also legally required. If this expires, you have to pay the cost those who have never worked guard jobs pay, i.e., ~$350-$400 to prove who you are again, compared against ~$70-$100 for proof of annual renewal, with all previously submitted information tied to your will be null, expired license intact.
Some training businesses will offer to schedule your fingerprinting appointment (which is free for you to do) for you, and offer to fill out and mail your application in for you (which is easy to do, but businesses claim 'it's difficult because if you label it incorrectly or use the wrong application codes, it'll be rejected, and is nonrefundable.') Know that you need to use code 1545R1 at the top of the security guard application form. This information, unless you want to spend an extra 50 to 70 dollars to just have the business do it for you, saves you that money.
If you complete these, you're officially someone who 'can just apply' without fear of immediate rejection. BUT—
In order to work in any building or any event that hosts more than 75 patrons indoors, or 200 patrons outdoors, you will also eventually need to procure: f-02 and f-03 certificates from the FDNY at Metrotech Center in Brooklyn. These certificates allow you to legally handle fire extinguishers that, for the most part, are only supposed to be touched by or accessible to employees in a building (like they're located in locked areas, or in emergency stairwells), and allow you to legally provide evacuation routes for patrons in the event of emergencies. They're $25 each. If you get hired somewhere, and those certificates are required, and you cannot prove you have these or are scheduled to take the exam, or don't have them on your person at the time of the event, you will 100% be sent home without pay, because the business can be financially penalized for having employees without proper safety licenses/certificates. The city considers it a form of fraud, and is akin to a health inspector surprising a business with a visit, only to discover they do not have necessary permits to run the business. Most employers are understanding of your needing to schedule the exam; do not stretch it out and avoid it. It's incentive to boot you and hire someone who already has them, or has no issue promptly scheduling the exam.
Overall total: $50, and running total on top of 8 and 16 hour training: $350-$600, if you sprung for training vs taking the exam after studying on your own.
Paid training classes aren't required, but you will want to utilize them to afford you more work opportunities (and cost $60-$90. Instructors for any training seminar usually have their own businesses, and will offer individuals who paid for the training gig work), as they're ran by people who had access to the exams you must take and pass at Metrotech Center. There are study pamphlets in the building that you cannot take out of the building; you can also review the pamphlet as a PDF at home beforehand, but can't bring them into the building, as FDNY considers it a form of cheating, for some reason. There are a lot of specificities and approximate numbers wedged into the exams; a lot of the questions seem trick question-y in nature, and will very likely be the make or break for you passing (which is ~74% correct), and being able to obtain these certificates. Most companies are willing to pay for your training and/or exam fees if you prove you're going to work for them longer than a week (bad work ethic, unreliable schedule: they're firing you, and you'll pay yourself).
You can also obtain a Basic Life Support certificate that is American Heart Association approved (you must specifically search 'AHA BLS,' as there are companies who provide BLS training without AHA's seal of approval, rendering the cost useless, and rendering your ability to gain employment null, as most hospitals consider 'AHA' the gold standard for training and will not hire you if you used a different organization), which costs ~$60 to $100, depending on which company you decide to go with (online vs in person training factors into cost as well). This certificate provides you with the ability to apply for hospital security jobs, as any and all jobs (cafeteria workers, janitors, all the way up to the actual doctors at a hospital—hospitals require you have AED and CPR knowledge (automated external defibrillators to shock someone's heart and manual, hand-pumping someone's chest to restart a heartbeat, respectively). I will anecdotally say I never even managed to get an interview for any hospital jobs as a guard. I got one interview offer to be a cafeteria worker for overnight shifts in very high up and far away from me Queens (I'm in Bed Stuy; over an hour by bus, train, or bike), and declined.
💬💬💬💬💬 Anecdotal advice:
- If you can hold out for better paying jobs, do. There are businesses that will hire anything with a pulse (Allied Universal, specifically); most jobs on their website are minimum wage, with very part time hours. They require applicants to submit video responses. You may be able to bypass those by attending in person group interview events, which are usually posted to Craigslist. Businesses that pay well are usually FiDi hubs, high end banks, art institutions, and theaters (along Broadway, not like AMC). The work in artistic and theatrical spaces is extremely touch and go and part time, and scheduling is tied to however busy the theater can make itself (are shows there booked back to back all year long, space rented out nearly every day, or does the events page of its website only show that there are a total of 3 standup comedians doing 2 days worth of shows for the entire month? That question determines whether you are 'steadily' employed, or utilizing the theater as supplemental income, because you cannot live off the wages provided by a less busy theater).
- It's a boy's club. If you are not a straight, cisgender man, you will hear them talk about all the awful shit they usually talk about. Sexist remarks, homophobic remarks, transphobic remarks, remarks about people with disabilities, remarks about homeless people, remarks about people's religiosity (apparel or accessories, facial features, etc). Any 'dark' joke that can be made, will be made. You cannot drain the swamp. The only thing reporting your coworkers does is put a target on your back for being trigger happy when it comes to causing team wide disharmony. If you know for certain that other employees are willing to report someone alongside you, to create several instances of reporting and documented digressions, proceed with caution (i.e., several reports of someone sexually harassing several coworkers = legitimate, unfortunately, 1 person = we'll wait to see how this unfolds, or if this becomes a problem again in the future). Reporting alone very rarely works in your favor. I was fired from an extremely progressive art museum because I caused 'team disharmony' after other employees openly mocked visibly gay and trans patrons, and hit on women who bought passes to view exhibits for the day they deemed attractive, and brought it to managers' attention. If you can find that magic job where you are not in the company of 15 to 50 other guards, congrats: you've obtained what most entry level guards can't. I desperately wish to work away from other people spewing this hateful rhetoric, but do not have other certifications, and haven't 'made' myself a stronger applicant because of this. I've never received interview offers for jobs where I can work alone, regardless of the shift (daytime, graveyard, etc).
- You can find word of mouth gigs pretty much anywhere. Every guard knows another guard that runs their own business and needs 20 people to cover posts for 1 day at a music festival, or concert, one day for a running marathon, parade, private art gala, etc. Most of these people also hold and spew discriminatory opinions, so do not attempt to be chummy with them unless you hold those views, too. You also run the risk of unreliable payment. I've worked for a few random guys who own their own security companies: most people assume they'll receive cash or check in hand once the event concludes, but some business owners mention they need 1 to 2 weeks before they send the payments through Venmo, Zelle or PayPal. Most sent me late payments, or tried to shortchange me. Confronting them about it led to threats of violence. I'm a 5'3, visibly queer, easygoing person. I did not intimidate these 6 feet tall, 350 pound men into anything, so it wasn't '2 tough guys butting heads.' It was someone asking for the payment they were owed, and then sending reminder texts, and then receiving threats to stop incessantly texting about payments owed. For these types of gigs, most business owners will not allow you breaks, and the days can last as long as 20-24 hours. It is obviously illegal, but not enforced by NY Department of Labor at all, even if you report it. Unfortunately you won't know if it's a good or bad gig or business owner until it's too late. These types of people keep your number and will mass text ~1-200 people once or twice a week, or every weekend; whoever confirms first will be hired for the event. Good if you need funds in a (delayed) pinch, and would rather do this than do something like dog walking or Instacart.
- It seems obvious to most, but still bears emphasis: standing on your feet for several hours a day, every day, is tiring. No, you're not walking several miles worth of a department store doing retail, no, you're not exhausted by the labor of a warehouse job (I've done both), but depending on the conditions, it'll still tire you. Concrete or linoleum or wood flooring is hard on the joints, exposure to outdoor elements will affect your immune system (rain, snow, smog, mosquitos), having to treat patrons with respect while they talk to and at you like you're worth less than minimum wage will irritate you, lack of breaks to sit and eat—it'll start to affect you. Just be mindful. If the job you land isn't right for you, like you only discovered after being hired that they're stationing you in a concrete parking garage instead of booth with a seat to allow cars in and out, and your body hurts—apply elsewhere.