The case for the JB/PG trade

It happened, it can’t be undone, and I know everyone is upset. It is what it is. That being said, all you can do is make the most of it.

Onto the point of the post…

PG is the better, more voluminous 3PT shooter than JB; the last 3 seasons, about half of Boston’s FGAs have been 3s…that leads all teams by a decent margin.

‘24-‘26 PG had a .48 3PAr, landing him in the 58th percentile amongst all SFs.

’24-‘26 JB had a .30 3PAr, putting him in just the 10th percentile amongst all SFs.

PG also attempted >11 3s per 100 while JB took just >8 per 100.

PG made nearly 40% of his 3s while JB made just 34% of his 3s.

PG fits the offense much better than JB in this regard, that’s objectively true.

PG helps Boston win the possession battle more and more

Part of the reason why Boston was so surprisingly successful last season was because they won the possession battle more often than not.

They committed the fewest TOVs, were 3rd in boxouts, grabbed the 7th-most offensive boards, had the 5th-highest OREB%, etc.

For all his strengths, JB‘s impact simply didn’t stem from this facet of the game.

’24-’26 JB was in the 51st percentile for steals, the 34th percentile for deflections, and the 17th percentile for sTOV%.

On the contrary, ‘24-‘26 PG was in the 95th percentile for steals and the 97th percentile for deflections. He was also in the 62nd percentile for sTOV%.

With JB on the floor, Boston‘s TOV% increased while their REB% decreased; the inverse was true for Boston’s opponents.

‘24-‘26 PG had the opposite effect for his teams (good).

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u/Limp_Screen7405 — 7 hours ago

My mom’s double 1st cousin shows up as my “half uncle” on my matches

It’s funny cuz that guy shares as much DNA with me as my mom’s actual half siblings yet he’s not my uncle at all lol (he’s not the son of my maternal grandma and/or grandpa)

His mom and my grandma were full sisters, his dad and my grandpa were full brothers; he’s my mom’s genetic ”half sibling“

We’ve only been in the same space as each other like 4 times in our lives, we’ve never had a convo face to face. Maybe in another life, I’d be calling him uncle too

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u/Limp_Screen7405 — 1 day ago

Ik it’s a beaten horse but how was Cam Reddish not an easy fade?

We’re in the “Cam Reddish was cold in high school👀❄️” part of the offseason where players show off their amazing scouting skills. It only feels right.

For someone with that much acclaim from his peers, his #s were abhorrent. Never seen anything like it, he scammed a T10 selection based entirely off PG comps lol.

He shot 36/33/77 splits despite having >70%
of his FGM assisted on.

He averaged just 2 stocks, 1> OREB, and had only 12 total dunks as an “athletic 3nD wing”.

He had a 0.7 A/TO ratio and a mere 4.5 BPM.

No bs, those are some of the worst stats I’ve ever seen from a T10 pick the last decade.

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u/Limp_Screen7405 — 2 days ago

Tobias Harris’ signing and how that impacts the Spurs

Although Harris is neither a sharpshooter nor a defensive stalwart, his impact on the possession battle is undeniable—and on just a 2-year, $31 million deal, that’s a bargain.

Last year, San Antonio was 10th in OREB% and finished 16th in total offensive rebounds.

With Harris on the court since 2024-25, Detroit’s OREB% increased by 1.8% while their opponent’s OREB% decreased by 2.7%.

Last season, Harris also led all players 6’7” and/or shorter in boxouts per game.

Harris is 46th in 3Y O-RAPM, with most of that impact coming from his work on the glass—he’s 50th in OREB +/- in that span.

He’s one of the best rebounding wings in the league, and while San Antonio didn’t particular struggle in that regard, they definitely could use more help on the glass.

Note: Wemby and Luke Kornet were the only players on the Spurs to average >6 rebounds per game last season

Turnover aversion is his other standout attribute; since 2024, he’s in the 91st percentile for PASSTOV% and averages 0.6 bad passes per 100. He‘s also in the 84th percentile for oTOV. Also: Detroit‘s TOV% dropped with Harris on the court.

Again, this also wasn’t an area that San Antonio struggled with in particular but they did have plenty of braindead moments in high leverage situations. Harris should help ameliorate some of those issue.

He’ll be a huge presence for San Antonio next season, both on the glass and for taking care of the ball. Among those two things, he’s also a decent shooter—albeit, on pretty low 3P volume—and is a viable post player so he‘ll function as a decent scoring outlet in the half-court when the game slows down.

I don’t think it’ll move the needle too much but I think people will be surprised at how impactful he’ll be for them. Their wing rotation as a whole was spotty last year; now it‘s acceptable, at the very least.

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u/Limp_Screen7405 — 2 days ago

Start McDaniels at the 4

The Wolves are nearly depleted in tradable assets so they have to work with what they have. Playing McDaniels at the 4 doesn’t sound ideal—he’s only 190lbs at 6’9”—but there’s more than meets the eye there.

Since 2023, he contests 8 shots at the rim and averages 1.4 blocks per 100; opponents shoot 7% worse at the rim when he’s the one contesting their shot.

With him on the court, opponents not only shoot worse at the rim, they take less shots at the rim as a result.

His rim protection numbers haven’t fallen below the 80th percentile (relative to his position) in that span; simply put: he’s the best rim protecting wing in the league.

I’ve always felt his team defense was his strong-suit, not his man defense. I think he looks just a step too slow for quicker creators and too thin for the bigger ones.

Putting him off the ball in that free safety role will really unlock his defensive impact.

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u/Limp_Screen7405 — 8 days ago

Non-Fox Spurs trade

Ty is a sniper and a good D/P/S connector, the Spurs need some PU3 juice badly. Aldama is a nothingburger, just salary filler.

Keldon was a lemon in the playoffs but he won 6MoTY. Not bullish on Bryant‘s future either but he’s a young 3nD wing so maybe he has some allure as a mystery box?

Love Ty Jerome but I don’t think he’s good enough for SAS shell out multiple FRPs of their own, ATL’s first next yr + some seconds is the most I’d be willing to part with.

u/Limp_Screen7405 — 8 days ago

Fun fact: Fox was trash in the playoffs before the high ankle sprain

He sprained his ankle in the 2nd half of game 6 vs. Minnesota. In the 10 playoff games he played before that, he averaged 19-3-6 on 52% TS...against the play-in Blazers and the hospital Timberwolves.

Big shoutout to the quarter billion man, the veteran stabilizing presence, the 2X All Star.

Fucking bum.

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u/Limp_Screen7405 — 9 days ago
▲ 32 r/AppalachianGenealogy+1 crossposts

For those of Native American descent: how far back does your genealogy go?

Mine goes all the way back to the very beginning of the colonial era in the late 1400s…one of my umpteenth great aunts was supposedly Pocahontas’ sisters.

It ends there but I’m assuming that’s because Natives didn’t keep a paper trail of documents pre-Columbus.

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u/Limp_Screen7405 — 9 days ago

I will forever hold the belief that the FO should’ve sold high on Brook while they had the chance.

Random thought but some retrospection felt appropriate given that the last pillar of the Bucks’ title team is about to be traded.

Anyways…watching him sag all the way back to the restricted area in the PnR gave me an aneurysm every single time.

Like, this dude was giving Kevin Durant wide open pull-up jumpers.

That drop scheme was so contingent on shooting luck that the Bucks were clueless any time their opponents‘ jumpers were falling…which was more often than not.

Each Bucks playoff opponent set a franchise record for 3s made in a game against them.

”They can’t keep this shooting up” was this fanbase’s coping mantra for like half a decade—they, in fact, kept that shooting up.

Who would’ve thought that giving professional basketball players wide open jumpers would backfire? And to twist the knife, they let him walk in FA for nothing.

And for all his talk about him affecting the glass with his size, the REB% somehow got lower with him on the floor.

Not to harp too much on the guy but his value/worth was overstated to the nth degree.

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u/Limp_Screen7405 — 14 days ago

How about this?

Minnesota gets a PG at no real cost…Randle stinks and Donte is on an expiring deal with a recently-torn Achilles. They lose their FRP but the SRP they get is just 7 spots down.

Ja for Fox is a lateral move but Memphis at least gets a ‘33 FRP out of it…call it worthless all y’all want but no one can predict the league‘s landscape in 7 years.

The Spurs get off Fox’s deal in exchange for tolerating Randle for a couple years + they get a couple shooters in return.

u/Limp_Screen7405 — 15 days ago

Could Allen Graves fall to SA @ #20?

He’s a big wing (6-8, 230lbs, 7ft WS) and appears to be a fundamentally-sound, cerebral player at just 20 yrs old.

  • 13.4 bpm as a freshman
  • 2.6 a/to ratio
  • 40%+ 3p on 6.7 3pa/100
  • Avg 2.8 oreb (13.8 oreb%)
  • Avg 7.3 stocks/100
  • Combined 9.8% stl/blk rate

A big wing who can shoot/pass and creates a metric ton of extra possessions via stocks/boards? Spreadsheet guys rant and rave about him for all the right reasons.

Spurs could use him. I’d trade up for him tbh.

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u/Limp_Screen7405 — 23 days ago

Alright, c’mon, this has to be the one now…

The Bucks give up nothing of value whatsoever. Like, nothing at all.

I hate Fox but at least he’s a 2X All Star. Hell, they’re even getting a pick for their troubles.

Au contraire, Turner is on an awful deal while Kuzma is a bum on an expiring deal.

u/Limp_Screen7405 — 23 days ago

How bout this?

Nets get someone better than MPJ + a FRP.

Spurs get off the Fox deal + get an elite shooting wing and a good backup big.

Jazz get a PG…their only other guard is Keyonte George. They also get a FRP.

Maybe throw in another pick for Utah too since ik Ainge values him so dearly.

u/Limp_Screen7405 — 23 days ago

Ngl I’m tired y’all

Fox trades are a running gag on here atp lol

Nets get 3 FRPs and a young 3nD wing with potential to take on Fox’s deal

Spurs get a bigger wing who can shoot and rebound. Mann is just filler/ass

u/Limp_Screen7405 — 24 days ago

Another Fox trade

Dude is a bum, like I’ve been saying the whole fucking season.

Anyways, whatever, Minnesota thinks they’re getting a “””star PG””” which is a position they’re lacking in + a FRP.

Randle is a bum and Donte is hurt but they’re on expiring deals so salary relief.

u/Limp_Screen7405 — 25 days ago

Thoughts?

BKN: Zion > MPJ in a vacuum + a FRP after contracts of the Spurs’ core would be up

NOP: They at least get something for Zion

SAS: They get shooting + free up touches for their guards

u/Limp_Screen7405 — 28 days ago

When it comes to Fox, I think San Antonio should just rip the bandaid off now.

He turns 29 next season as he‘ll enter the first year of a 4-year, $229M extension.

This season, San Antonio played 2,081 high leverage minutes with Fox and 1,145 high leverage minutes without Fox: their NET rating was better without him.

This postseason, their NET rating is higher with Harper on the floor as opposed to Fox.

Fox is averaging just 16 points on 51.5% TS this postseason. That’s not to say he hasn’t been impactful—SA’s TOV% decreases by 5% with him out there while their ORTG gets 2 points better—but his “thing” is scoring…and he’s been pedestrian at best.

His saving graces are that he’s good at getting past his first defender to force the defense into rotation and is turnover-averse but that’s not worth a quarter million dollars.

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u/Limp_Screen7405 — 29 days ago

Hopes/dreams for our community? What role do you see yourself playing in our future?

The genocide never ended, we’re still the most endangered people in the country.

Our addiction, abuse, poverty, and homicide rates are the highest out of any demographic in the nation. On the flip side, our life expectancy and literacy rate are the lowest.

If I were to ameliorate those things, even by just a little bit, then I could say I lived a fulfilling life. If were to be one of the people to chart a lighter, safer path for the next generation to tread then I’d die happy.

If the next generation were happier, healthier, and less traumatized then I’d gladly say I did my job as an elder because lord knows the so-called ”elders” in my circle failed.

Our community is small enough to where enough active, strong-willed, good-hearted people could truly make a difference…

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u/Limp_Screen7405 — 2 months ago

How accurate are Middle Eastern results on here?

I’m 1/4 Arab via my paternal grandfather. He and I were raised believing he was 100% Palestinian…but my results said otherwise.

As per my results, he’s approximately only 1/2 Palestinian with his other half being equal parts Saudi/Egyptian.

My grandmother told me his father was a Bedouin, Kaffiyeh and all. I believe that’s where the non-Levantine DNA comes from.

I know Bedouins are nomadic so while my great grandfather wasn’t ethnically Palestinian, he may have been born/raised there, hence why he identified as Palestinian himself? That’s just my theory.

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u/Limp_Screen7405 — 2 months ago