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Eddie's abuse started on the "Dangerous" tour when he was about 11 years old and Michael's grooming was so powerful and strong that Eddie completely fell for it all, he idolized Michael and looked at him like a god.

The abuse that happened to Eddie went on until Eddie was in his mid 20s and he stated that not only did Michael take his childhood, he also felt that Michael stole his manhood too.

Michael had stopped abusing Dominic jr at around sixteen, he had attempted to abuse Marie Nicole again in Bahrain, he stopped abusing Aldo when Aldo was around 15 years old? And because we do not know much about Frank's abuse due to him being locked in private arbitration, the 60 minutes interview narration said that Frank had "already been initiated into the applehead club" when Michael started to set his sights on young Eddie. Frank and Michael had a falling out in 2005, started talking again in 2007 but were never as close as they used to be.

Okay so a lot of stuff has come up recently in various social media that I've been made aware of and I wanted to discuss this because I think that this is important.

No shade to the people who have shared Maureen Callahan's videos, she appears to (sometimes) believe Michael is guilty but she has also cast doubt on the Cascio siblings claims, she's also a conservative who only has her own show because of Megyn Kelly.

Megyn Kelly is completely against the survivors of Michael, she recently cast doubt on Leaving Neverland WITH Mark Geragos who was on her show, the fact that he chose to go on there and shit talk about Wade and James makes me glad that he is no longer repping the Cascios.

MattsFTR has been on with Roxanne Johnson, he used to be a staunch supporter and defender of Michael but switched to believing the victims, but he did recently say he was "suspicious" of Marie Nicole's story and even mocked the finger guns / snap code word that Michael would use with her to send the signal he wanted to abuse her again.

Dan Reed recently spoke about how people do not care about Michael's victims, but to me he undermined his entire point by saying that he was suspect of the Cascio's motives in coming forward, though he did not deny that he believed them and their abuse, he also made it seem like they were after money, which is the Estate's narrative.

Many commenters on Roxanne's videos seem to find it hard to believe that the Cascio siblings didn't know each other were being abused, and some call into question the 60 minutes interview (because they claim it felt scripted)

I just want everyone to be aware that just because someone says they believe Michael may have been guilty, doesn't mean they are an advocate for his survivors. Roxanne Johnson is an advocate for victims and survivors, she believes them regardless of "inconsistencies" or "off vibes".

As important and impactful as people who speak about Michael's crimes are, some of them are not actually standing by his victims but are merely grifters, Maureen and Megyn are on opposite sides of the guilty spectrum but they are both fuckass grifters and make money off the trauma of others. Mark Geragos is a lawyer first and foremost and he only goes where the money is, if he's going on a conservative show and casting doubt on Leaving Neverland then that means he doesn't stand by Michael's survivors, he's just an opportunist who probably felt miffed that Michael lied to him in 03. Does that mean he doesn't believe the Cascios? Who fucking knows, but he's not an advocate.

And I know this is going to piss a lot of people off, but as important as Leaving Neverland was and still is, Dan Reed is not an advocate for survivors of CSA. He just isn't, he did a really good thing making this documentary and supporting Wade and James, but he isn't the person that people should be looking to for advocacy, I'm glad he made Leaving Neverland and I am glad he believes Wade and James, but he is not an advocate, nor is he an expert in CSA trauma.

Advocacy means to stand by abuse victims and survivors even if they are not perfect, even if they are on opposite political sides than you, standing up for abuse victims means that sometimes you will be standing up for someone you do not like or do not align with. There is a survivor of a different abuser that I will not name but she has actively started a campaign against another survivor of another different abuser, but I still support her because what happened to her should have never happened, and as unfortunate as it is, many times survivors will turn against other survivors even of different abusers.

Another example, Lena Dunham wrote a book about her life years ago and described in detail how she groomed and manipulated her sibling and abused that sibling, she and many others claim it's "not abuse" and many people online defended it as "oh it's just that Lena was curious, it's just curiosity", but by Lena's OWN ADMISSION she did this up until her sibling was in his young teens. (Lena's sibling was born female but now identifies as transmasc / nonbinary and uses he/him pronouns) and recently has revealed that Adam Driver was aggressive towards her on the set of her show, I believe her and support her right to speak out about Driver even though she has done really shitty things herself and has no accountability for what she did.

I think it's important to note the difference between someone who supports victims and survivors and then grifters like Maureen and lawyers like Mark Geragos, and even Dan Reed who does believe the survivors, but that doesn't make him a CSA advocate and I don't think he was setting out to do that when he made Leaving Neverland.

Advocates for Michael's survivors and other survivors are out there and I believe they should be lifted up.

This video is from last year. Connor is now a year older than Zoe was when she preyed on him. She's a tiktokker and he was a big fan of hers and would make edits for her, he then became something of a fandom leader and was on the front lines of defending her when she got into controversies.

He talks about how he didn't really understand what was going on, and that he also felt like he couldn't get away from her because she moved to PA with her friend, and her friend had up and left when she found out that Zoe was "in a relationship" with a 13 year old boy. He talks about how after all of it came out, people in his school mocked him for being SA'd, and photoshopped images of his face and her face on pornographic videos.

Zoe has absolutely no remorse for what she did, she joked about "do you think they have designer in jail" and other jokes that minimize the illegality of what she was doing. Connor says he felt like she was his peer at the time she was abusing him.