u/Milosuix

I measured my clavicle using the recommended method with my brother’s help and kept getting around 19 cm (18 to 19 cm in case I measured slightly wrong). Google says the adult average in Western countries is around 15.5 to 16 cm, with an SD of roughly 1 to 1.2 cm, which would put me somewhere around the 95th(if it was 18 cm and sd is 1.2) to 99.9+th (if it was 19 cm and sd is 1.0)

I was shocked, so I repeated the measurement multiple times while following the tutorial carefully, but still got around 19 cm. I knew I had a broad frame since my shoulders are wider than both my dad’s and brother’s, but I didn’t realize I might be in the extreme range even compared with adult men.

What really surprised me is that clavicles are among the last bones to finish growing. Could mine potentially reach 20 cm? Most of my shoulder width seems to come from my bones rather than muscle. No wonder people think I’m strong as hell when I literally just sit around playing FIFA all day 💀

My clavicle length correlates to a 6'5+ male.
just something on my mind

(i measured straight which is the clinically accepted method, measuring along the curve which some people make the mistake of doing i get above 20 cm)

https://preview.redd.it/i5uv9nn91zjh1.png?width=485&format=png&auto=webp&s=a786c4a73c962315b7644e920c5b8cb4e65919cf

Sitting height can tell roughly how proprotionate you are and could be used to estimate maturity due to the typical sequence of closure

I also found some data from a 1983 source that the average male grew 2.13 cm from the age of 18 to 27, with only 27% of boys being the same height as they wre at 19 at age 27. I will consider this in height predictions more often, growth past 18/tanner stage 5 is minimal but not rare or unexpected. Most growth in this time period typically came from the trunk/torso.

Back to this method, It utilizes Mirwald maturity-offset approach + Sherar et al.'s 2005 maturity-based cumulative height-velocity curves. It uses age, standing height, sitting height, and weight to estimate maturity status and then estimate remaining growth.

The reported range of accuracy was 95% within a range of 5.35 cm and these were my results.
so according to this there is a 95% chance my height will end up anywhere from 184.7 cm to 195.4 cm, around 6 foot and 3/4 to 6'5. Im already marginally above the minimum prediction meaning this method is saying I will either not grow at all or grow ~10 cm from now to adukthood with 5.5 cm being the most likely.

the last time i did this around 13.5 i also got a result of 6'3 as well so it hasnt changed in 1.8 years which is maing me consider it more

https://preview.redd.it/zn8t3c2wtxjh1.png?width=1290&format=png&auto=webp&s=5fc62ef7c2020af6526e78345306c488d04656b5

https://preview.redd.it/gplxxy5awgjh1.png?width=1155&format=png&auto=webp&s=0450b1d7c7f2cfea0c31f49f876aafbb73a1a932

Im currently at a fast growrth rate, i grew like 3-3.2 cm in the last 4.5 months

this is likely a short burst which i usually have every now and then. im only 5 cm below my goal now

An inch isa noticable hieght differnce, sometimes you see people claiming to be certain heights while it looks like a bigger gap. I think the ones that look close but too small or too big to be that differnce exacly come from day to night fluctuation along with some claiming night height and some claiming morning height. Someone could be 6'6 or 6'6.5 in the morning but 6'5.5 at nigh and claim 6'5 as their height but i just wanted to point out what time of day height you claim also matters a lot. This can only really explain the differnces that look off by 1-1.5 inches, if it looks off more than 2 inches someone is definetely lying. Its like a Strong 6'5/weak 6'6 claiming 6'5 versus a strong 6'2/weak 6'3 claiming 6'3. This is why i think cms are more representative. 192 193 194 and 195 cm men could all realistically claim 6'4

Im planning to try out for the team this year or next so ive been practicing a lot. I was already a decent player but my physicality/form had been bad recently, i was alwasy more of a technical player though i just needed to up my stamina which im currently doing. I lowkey saw a tiktok that said if you cant do at least 100 juggles you cant go pro and that kinda irked me. Im not a great juggler because when i play i go striaght to playing with others(friends that are usually in their school team or a club, even played with some guys that train with nycfc academy kids). So i dont really get time to practice things like juggling to imopve first touch thocuh my first touch wasnt terrible. So i wanted to try reach this milestone starting around late july, now its mid august and i did my first 100 juggles, around 160, my control has imporved drastically. keep in mind before august i was sitting around an avearge of 5-10

at 14 he was 5'7, at 15 he was 6'0.5 at 16 hes now 6'3.5
his dad is 6'2 and his mom is 5'8
he hit puberty at 14 then had a huge growth spurt.
he grew almost as much as i did in the last 4 years in just 2

I noticed hair down there by around 11 but the first time i came at 13.5 it was a blank. I got pit hair around 13 but experienced phv from 11-12 growing 7-8 cm. at 10 i was 155, 11 160, 12 167-168, 13 173, 14 178 and 15 183, im 15.25 with no facial hair and im 184.5 cms, maybe around 185 on a good day(186 morning 183 night)

Before i got my tape measure i thought i was a lot taller than i actually was and would claim usually an inch more than i was but ever seince i started accurately measuring and actually getting pretty tall, i just noticed how rare tall people are. A guy someone else might think is 6'4 is probably just 6'2. Average height is actually going down not up

i feel like a lot of people overestimate their puberty onset. a lot of posts here people claim to start puberty at 13-14 while the average is 11.5. A lot of people i see who start puberty as late as 14 tend to have a huge growth spurt while a lot of people here claim to start at 13-14 then grow the same amount they did before they hit puberty for even several years. A puberty onset of 14 is literally nearly in the 99th percentile, that's nearly as rare as being 6'4 by itself
its completely normal to hit puberty at an average age of 11 or 12 and not have a growth spurt or get really "manly" until 14+

I basically get into the loading screen get past settings and everything then at the main menu, 1-2 seconds in i experience this crash

"DirectX Error X mod DirectX function "GetDeviceRemoved Reason" failed with XDXGI_ERROR_ACCESS_DENIED ("You tried to use a resource to which you did not have the required access privileges."). GPU: "NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4060 Laptop GPU", Driver: 61062. This error is usually caused by the graphics driver crashing; try installing the latest drivers"

i have the latest drivers man I'm so lost i spent money on that mod

any help would be heavily appreciated

I’ve been trying for 20 minutes