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The movie came out almost 5 years ago and since then, the events of the film have not been mentioned or continued in any of the MCU movies or shows that came after nor have we seen any of the characters from the film since then. None of the actors from the film were listed as being part of the cast for Avengers: Doomsday and Kevin Feige has said that there’s currently zero plans for a sequel.

I get that the movie wasn’t well received by critics and audiences were mixed on it. But still, I feel like we should get some kind of update with these characters and their story. Otherwise, what was the point of giving them their own movie? It’s getting to a point where, if you’re new to the MCU and playing catchup on all the movies, you could honestly skip Eternals and not miss anything.

“Eternals Will Return” my ass.

Seriously, this guy was huge in the 2000’s for directing the first 2 Shrek films as well as the Chronicles Of Narnia movies. But then once the 2010’s hit, he just fell off the face of the earth and nobody ever spoke of him again.

This is one of my least favorite episodes simply because of the ending. It really ruined what could’ve been a really decent episode. Seriously, they took what should’ve been Robbie’s moment to shine and then gave it to Tori just out of nowhere with absolutely zero foreshadowing that this was gonna happen. I’m not a Tori hater like a lot of other people are. But my god, was her involvement in this episode so forced and poorly executed.

I truly believe this ending was a last minute change. Now, I obviously had no evidence or sources to confirm this. But it seems likely that what happened was that the episode was originally going to end with Robbie winning against Gerald and being declared the Hambone King because the whole episode was clearly building towards that moment. But on the day they were going to shoot it, either Dan Schneider or a Nickelodeon executive came to the set and demanded them to change the ending on the spot to somehow get Tori involved and have her be the winner instead of Robbie.

Again, that’s obviously just a theory. But I wouldn’t be surprised if that’s exactly what happened

One thing I always wondered about iStill Psycho was why were both of Nora’s parents completely on board with her plan of getting revenge on the iCarly gang by kidnapping them a second time. Were they also psychos and that’s where Nora got her behavior from? Or were they not psychos and they simply just wanted to get revenge on the iCarly gang for having Nora be sent to prison?

Honestly, neither explanation makes sense when you think about it? In the first iPsycho, it was implied that Nora’s parents didn’t give 2 shits about her to the point where they left her alone on her birthday to go on vacation, which is why we never saw them in the first special.

So, as most of you know, “Really Big Shrimp” was (or was at least intended to be) the finale of the show. It was the very last episode that was shot and was clearly written as a series finale. However, for some inexplicable reason, Nickelodeon aired the episodes out of order. As a result, 2 episodes that were supposed to air before “Really Big Shrimp” (that being “Helicopter” and “Dance Contest”) ended airing after it.

I always found this weird. Now, Nickelodeon airing episodes of a show out of order isn’t anything new. They do that all the time. But it’s usually with episodes that don’t really have any continuity. So young kids don’t notice it. But this instance is weird because they decided to air the series finale of Drake and Josh before 2 other episodes. That’s very bizarre.

So it’s clear from the start that Tynan was meant to be the antagonist of this season. But I feel like they really changed her character halfway through.

For the first half of the season, Tynan came off as a pretty reasonable and she honestly did have some valid points in regards to how involved Liv seems to be despite being a captain. But after the Fall finale, her character started becoming a lot more like a cartoonish villain with her doing things that seemed pretty over the top.

My guess is that, after the Fall finale aired, the writers realized that the viewers were siding with Tynan and agreeing with her points. So they decided to rework the character by really upping her antagonistic side so the audience would hate her and go back to siding with Liv. That might explain why the reveal of her past and the resolution to it felt so overwhelming. It’s possible that they originally had a different reveal for what her exact goal and motivations were, but then they had to change it once they reworked the character so the viewers would still be on Liv’s side

The Joey/Rachel storyline has been talked down to death repeatedly and has been criticized ever since the show was still airing. It’s also well known that even the writers, cast, and crew all HATED this storyline and were completely against it. I too hated it as well. But I do have a specific take on one thing.

I think this storyline started out interesting with Joey suddenly gaining feels for Rachel after going on a fake date with her. Throughout the show, Joey was a womanizer. He slept with women and mostly saw them as objects instead of people. Him suddenly starting to have feelings for someone could’ve been an interesting direction to go in because it could’ve set up him having a genuine romantic relationship with a woman in the future and maybe that woman could be the person he settles down in the end. If this storyline had ended where Rachel rejects Joey after confessing his feelings for her, this would’ve been a perfectly fine storyline.

However, Crane and Cauffman, for whatever reason, did not want to let this storyline end and decided to have Season 8 end on this god awful cliffhanger where Rachel mistakenly thinks that Joey proposed to her right after she gave birth to Emma. Then Season 9 happens and things get even more ridiculous. Rachel suddenly gain’s feelings for Joey after watching him perform on a tv show through the camera monitor on the set. Now, I may not like Rachel. But even I still know that this is completely out of character. In no other season would Rachel have even considered doing this. Also, she’s seen Joey act on TV several times before and felt zero romantic instincts to it.

So, from the first episode of Season 27, it’s clear that she’s gonna be some sort of an antagonist and that she sends Griffin to work at SVU as some kind of spy. We really get the sense that she has some kind of beef with Liv and is out to get her, but we don’t know the exact reason for it. After watching the season finale, I’m still confused. All we learned about Tynan is that she helped Griffin’s dad cover up a murder he committed 20 years ago. But that’s it. So why exactly did she seem to have issues with Liv then? Because she turned down a promotion?

It genuinely seems like either there was originally supposed to be more to this storyline that would’ve explained Tynan’s agenda against Liv that was then scrapped or the writers didn’t actually have a plan for this storyline mapped out and they instead just made everything up as they went along.

Even as a kid, this always confused me. I’m still confused by it as an adult.

So Zeke (his best friend mind you) and Harper were literally abducted by the griffin and could very likely get killed. Yet, he seems to not give a shit at all and only cares about continuing the competition. He even looks annoyed when Alex insists on going to rescue them. Before I continue, I just wanna say that this might be the textbook example of how much they ruined Justin’s character in in the last season. Season 1 Justin would’ve immediately gone to rescue Zeke and Harper with zero hesitation. Honestly, he probably would’ve been the one convincing Alex and Max to go rescue them.

Then there’s the second act of the episode. So before going to rescue Zeke and Harper, Professor Crumbs and the council say that they have to be back in a specific amount of time or else they’ll be disqualified from the competition. When they get back, the time apparently ran out beforehand. As a result, they’re disqualified and forced to give up their Wands (this is later revealed to have just be a test). Justin (as well as Max) then spends the next portion of the episode being mad at Alex and blaming her for getting them disqualified and losing their powers.

I still can’t figure out how exactly he thought that Alex was the one to blame. The only people he should’ve been blaming were Professor Crumbs and the Wizard council for apparently disqualifying them simply because they wanted to do the right thing and save their friends from potentially getting killed. (He obviously didn’t know that this was all a test at that time). Hell, him blaming Zeke for turning himself purple would’ve even made a bit of sense. Alex is the last person he should’ve been angry at.

As most of you know, they were originally planning to do a spin-off series about Dwight and his life on Schrute Farms. The show would’ve been called “The Farm”. It was something that got really far along in development. They even shot a pilot episode and everything. The reason why Greg Daniels returned as show-runner for Season 9 was actually because Paul Lieberstein stepped down to work on developing The Farm. However, NBC executives were not impressed by the pilot (some sources have even said that they hated it) and decided not to green light the show. They then took the pilot they shot and tweaked it into being episode 17 of the 9th season.

Personally, i think NBC made the right call rejecting the show for a few good reasons. The first is that, whenever a popular series gives the comic relief character their own spinoff, it almost always end up being terrible and/or unfunny. There’s a reason why they’re called Comic Relief characters. The second is that, as fun and entertaining as it was seeing Schrute Farms, it’s better when it’s seen occasionally. Having it be the central focus of a whole show would’ve been too much and lost that comedic value. Lastly, and I think the main reason why it was smart to reject it, it would’ve completely changed the ending of the show. If The Farm had gotten green lit, Dwight would’ve had to leave The Office halfway through Season 9. So imagine having the show not end with Dwight becoming manager, the one thing that had been his dream for the whole show. That would’ve been pretty sad.

So yeah, i think NBC made the right decision.

As a kid, I thought this fight was awesome and I still have the same opinion as an adult. It’s honestly a very well choreographed fight. However, rewatching it as an adult, it’s honestly very dark. I noticed that there are a good number of moments in the fight where it was clear that Nora was trying to KILL Gibby, not just injure him. She even makes him bleed at one point. I’m not complaining or anything like that. I think it’s a really nice and subtle way of further showing how insane Nora actually was.

I sometimes forgot that he was just the guidance counselor because he seemed to be involved and/or present for a lot of the major events and incidents in the school more than the actual school principal was.

Rewatching this episode as adult and having a mother who worked in a high school for several years is so jarring because I noticed how many laws were broken by the school staff in this episode. Let’s count them out.

1. Superintendent Gorman legally had no right or reason to fire Principal Franklin for appearing on iCarly. Principal Franklin could’ve easily sued him for wrongful termination. Considering the circumstances, he most likely would’ve won and gotten his job back.

2. Mr Howard and Ms Briggs becoming co-principals wouldn’t be possible. They’re teachers at the school. A teacher suddenly being promoted to a principal on the spot without the proper requirements is illegal. In order for a person to become a school principal, they have to get a Master's Degree or Doctorate Degree in Education Administration. They would then have to spend a certain number of years as an Assistant Principal in order to gain the experience.

3. When Mr Howard and Ms Briggs become principals, they also break laws and heavily abuse their powers. For one, once they become co-principals, it appears that they immediately made all of the students wear uniforms. Principals do not have the power to make students wear uniforms. Only school boards, administrators, and charter school governing bodies have the authority to impose that policy. So Briggs and Howard could have been easily arrested for alleged abuse.

4. Another thing they do after becoming co-principals is putting audio feedback in the school’s security cameras. They legally wouldn’t have been able to do that without parental consent, which I highly doubt that any of the students’ parents would ever agree to. They would also need permission from the school board to do that, which I doubt they did. They’d be breaking several wire tapping laws. One of the parents could’ve easily filed a lawsuit and gotten Briggs and Howard fired.

Obviously, I know it’s just a tv show and was not meant to be analyzed like this. But it’s just funny to think about.

Like a lot of people, I really disliked Hocus Pocus 2. It felt like it disrespected the original film, was too toned down to be more family friendly, didn't bring back any of the original characters, tried to make the Witches sympathetic for some reason, and seemed like it was made by people who had a political agenda or something.

I'm a screenwriter and have written film scripts. For the fun of it, I've been writing a story for a Hocus Pocus 3 over the past couple years. Yesterday, Disney just announced that it was officially in devlopment. So, I figured I'd share the whole story outline for what I would've done if I was the person tasked with writing the movie. This is gonna be a VERY LONG POST. So pleast strap in.

Before I begin though, I wanna clarify what to expect with my story. Basically, the main goal of this story was to fix a lot of the issues that were present in Hocus Pocus 2. So the story that I've come up with brings back the original characters, has a tone very similar to the original film's, an additional new villain, the male characters aren't portrayed as arrogant or stupid, the new characters from Hocus Pocus 2 are more likable, interesting, and fleshed out, the Sanderson Sisters act more like how they did in the original film, etc. So, here's my story outline for the hypothetical Hocus Pocus 3 that will probably never happen. Haha

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The film opens with a flashback to 1600s Salem, revealing that the Sanderson sisters once crossed paths with a mysterious sorcerer named Elias Blackthorne. Unlike the witches, who crave immediate power and act impulsively, Blackthorne believes magic should be built carefully over time through patience, discipline, and control. The sisters resent him because he possesses something they never could: true mastery over magic and immortality itself. The flashback ends with Blackthorne silently standing in the crowd as the Sanderson sisters are hanged, just like they were in the original film, revealing that he has existed in Salem’s shadows for centuries and may have even been aware of the events of the original film all along.

We then cut to the present day, a few years after the events of Hocus Pocus 2. Salem is once again preparing for Halloween night. Becca, Izzy, and Cassie are now college-age and remain close friends. Every Halloween, the group celebrates Becca’s birthday together as part of a long-standing tradition. This year is different, however, because for the first time, Mike—Cassie's boyfriend from the previous film who is now far more mature and genuinely accepted by the group—is invited to join what has traditionally been an all-girls celebration night.

We also see what's been going on with the original trio:

Max Dennison is now a professor at the local college that the girls attend and are very close with.

Alison also works there and has quietly continued researching Salem’s supernatural history over the years.

Dani works at the Sanderson Sisters museum alongside Gilbert.

While Salem prepares for its annual Halloween festival, Blackthorne (who is still around) finally decides the time has come to act. After confronting and terrifying Gilbert at the museum in order to learn the whereabouts of the spell book, Blackthorne visits Becca’s home and demands the book from her. When Becca attempts to use magic to stop him, Blackthorne effortlessly freezes her spell mid-air without hesitation, immediately proving himself to be unlike anything she has encountered before.

Blackthorne then travels to the cemetery and performs a rare resurrection spell that brings the Sanderson sisters back to life. This version of the witches is far darker and more dangerous than their portrayal in Hocus Pocus 2. Winifred, Sarah, and Mary are once again manipulative, cruel, and actively seeking children’s souls just as they were in Hocus Pocus.

At the Halloween festival, Max, Dani, and Alison witness strange lightning and magical disturbances erupting from the cemetery and immediately realize something is wrong. They rush there and arrive shortly after the witches’ resurrection, leading to a massive confrontation between the original trio, Blackthorne, and the Sanderson sisters. During the encounter:

the trio quickly realizes the witches are more powerful and malicious than ever,

Blackthorne’s terrifying level of control becomes clear,

and the witches openly mock and torment them over the events of the original film.

The confrontation escalates into chaos, forcing Max, Dani, and Alison to barely escape with their lives. Realizing they are completely outmatched, they flee to the Sanderson Sisters museum, where they discover Gilbert still shaken from his earlier encounter with Blackthorne. Gilbert admits that he recreated the Black Flame Candle and gave it to Becca years earlier, leading to angry and stunned reactions from the original trio. Max then reveals that he overheard the witches refer to the mysterious sorcerer as “Blackthorne” during the cemetery confrontation.

Fearing the witches and Blackthorne may return to the museum and use it as a base of operations, the group abandons the building and begins investigating Blackthorne’s history, hoping to uncover who—or what—he really is.

Meanwhile, Becca’s group initially believes they can stop the witches again just like before. However, Max, Dani, and Alison quickly realize that Becca and her friends only encountered a far more restrained version of the witches in Hocus Pocus 2 and warn them that this time is different. They explain that the Sanderson sisters are far more dangerous than Becca’s group realizes and that Blackthorne’s presence changes everything.

Blackthorne’s true plan is far larger than the witches themselves understand. He seeks to perform a ritual powerful enough to remove the natural limits placed on magic itself, eliminating weaknesses, consequences, and restrictions forever. To achieve this, he requires enormous amounts of life force. The Sanderson sisters become essential to his plan because:

Sarah’s enchanted singing voice can lure children in massive numbers,

Mary can track them,

and Winifred possesses extensive knowledge of soul-draining magic.

Throughout the film, the two protagonist groups develop parallel arcs:

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At first, Becca’s group is more confident and proactive, believing their previous experience with the witches means they can stop them again. Over time, they realize this threat is far more dangerous than anything they previously faced.

Becca struggles with the responsibility and fear that come with her growing magical abilities.

Izzy becomes one of the emotional anchors of the group.

Mike is reimagined as intelligent, dependable, and deeply caring toward Cassie, with his repaired friendship with Becca showing how much both characters have matured.

Cassie is greatly expanded as a character, becoming the emotional core of the story and the glue that holds the group together.

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The original trio’s storyline explores the long-term emotional impact of surviving the Sanderson sisters decades earlier.

Max initially treats the events of the past as something he tried to move beyond, but Blackthorne’s arrival forces him to confront how deeply those experiences still affect him.

Alison’s years of quietly researching Salem’s supernatural history become vital to understanding Blackthorne and the ritual.

Dani, who never truly forgot how terrifying the witches were, becomes the first to realize how catastrophic the situation could become.

Gilbert evolves from a guilt-ridden comic relief figure into someone determined to help fix the chaos he unintentionally helped restart.

Over the course of the story, both groups slowly realize that neither experience nor confidence alone is enough to stop Blackthorne. They must learn to combine:

Max’s experience,

Alison’s knowledge,

Dani’s emotional instincts,

Becca’s magic,

Mike’s strategic thinking,

and the younger group’s adaptability.

Eventually, the witches kidnap Cassie—partly because she is the mayor’s daughter and they still hold a grudge against her father from the previous film, but also because Blackthorne intends to use her as the first subject in his ritual. The cemetery becomes the site of an initial final confrontation where Max’s group attempts to trap Blackthorne and the witches using knowledge from the past.

After Cassie is rescued, the ritual spirals out of control and expands beyond the cemetery into Salem’s massive Halloween festival. Children across town begin falling under Sarah’s influence while townspeople mistake real supernatural events for Halloween theatrics. The chaos consumes the entire town as Blackthorne moves forward with his plan to permanently break the limits of magic.

The climax ultimately centers on Max and Becca—the two people responsible for lighting the Black Flame Candle in their respective films. Together, they combine Max’s experience and Becca’s growing magical abilities to defeat both Blackthorne and the Sanderson sisters, bringing the trilogy full circle while finally ending the witches’ legacy once and for all.