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if a "vague and mysterious form of good" its the one who decides which humans go to heaven and which go to hell, without any interference from the angels, It doesn't make sense that Sir Pentious was the first to be redeemed.

Are you telling me that from the beginning of humanity until now, not a single miserable human being has regretted the sin they made and "undone it" as Sir Pentious did? Are you kidding? If angels would be the ones making this kinda of work and Charlie convinced them that people could improve, it would make more sense. Millions of people would have regretted what they did, heaven just ignored and didn't believe in their potential until charlie prooved them wrong. But that's not the case here. The only angels Charlie "Convinced" is black Hit- i mean Sera and Emily, no one else.
So how in the world this stupid snake is the first one to have regretted their sin and "undone it" ever????

(Ignoring the fact that nobody asked the victim that sir Pentious allowed to die if they were ok with him being reedemed, or how the show ignored that he participated in territorial wars in the past and definitely hurt/killed many people)

For an show that is Praised by their fans for being Progressive/Liberal, Hazbin Hotel and Helluva boss are more larping Woke than actually being Woke.

Both shows defend and romanticize abusers/toxic people (Stolas, Charlie, Verosika) and dictators (Asmodeus, Beelzebub, Lucifer, Sera)

Both show pretends having a progressive message but actually play safe (Hazbin Hotel: Heaven is evil? Nah it's just Adam and Lute. Helluva boss: We should fight against or opressors? Nah they are nice people actually!)

Both shows neglect all of their female characters.

Both shows have only stereotypical representations of LGBT people (Pansexuals are sexual crazy freaks. Gays are twinks and super feminine. Bisexual characters are only seem flirting with one gender instead of two. Asexuals are evil. The show tries to paint Octavia as the wrong for cutting of her abusive father. Trans are sidelined.)

Seems really similar to what Disney does :V

I admit that I'm really had at explaining my thoughts. It's a problem of mine.

If you wish to understand what caused me to reach this conclusion, check out this playlist

Ok hold on hear me out

CW: Kinda of a big ass text

Weeks ago i was watching Hazbin Hotel Season 1 and 2 with my bf and my sister. It's was my bf's first time watching, while it was the first time my sister and I were rewatching it since the days the first two seasons were realeased. I was there to see my bf's reaction to the writing decisions of the show and my sis too cuz she also thinks his reactions are funny asf.

Of the three of us, only my bf and I have knowledge to writing related stuff, so i didn't expect my sis to contributed a lot, but this time she surprised me with the speech: "Have you ever noticed that Lute is basically just a female version of Adam?"
At first I disagreed with her (my bf agreed with her though), but now that some time has passed I can see that she's right, and here's why:

- Both are flat characters that are not explored or developed in any way beyond their basic personality traits.
(Adam: Is a sadistic who loves killing sinners, is misogynist and loves to talk about sex shit. And what more?? Who knows!!!)
(Lute: Is Adam's lieutenant and a sadistic who loves killing sinners. And what more?? Who knows!!!)

- Both have immense potential to be gray or even good characters but are used as pure evil scapegoats for the problems of heaven

(Adam: Why he enjoys killing his own family, his own children?? Why he is a misogynist?? What happened between him and Eve?? Etc..)

(Lute: Why she is Adam's lieutenant?? Was she choosen for this? If yes, why her? If she was not choosen but born for this role, how did she turned out like this if supposedly everyone but Adam in Heaven is evil? How is her relationship with her coworkers? Why she is abusive just like Adam? How is her relationship with other angels? Etc..)

- The development potential of both is completely overshadowed to make another character look good.

(Adam: Lilith, Lucifer, Charlie and Sera)
(Lute: Abel, Charlie, Emily and Sera)

This sucks so much cuz Vivziepop and her team keeps hyping up Lute as this "ticking bomb", but she is definitely just gonna be another Stella 😭

(CW: Big ahh text)

I see so many Vivziepop fans saying, "Go easy on her! Writing is hard and it's one of her first shows!" When criticism of Hazbin Hotel comes up, but that excuse is pathetic in relation to Adam's character.

He's a ridiculously easy character to write. I recently started writing an AU with him and Eve where they are actually deep; and I managed to come up with the whole thing in less than two weeks.

Vivziepop had at least 4 YEARS TO DO THE SAME AND SHE SOMEHOW FAILED???

How is this even possible?!

The Bible and the mith of Lilith are literally like a blueprint, you don't need to do much, the basics are already there, you just need to add details.

It's not like she couldn't get support to help with the writing as well. She fulfilled the dream of millions of artists: having their story accepted by a major studio.
She definitely made a considerable amount of money from this, and would have had the money to hire good development editors, And even so, you decide to write your story with the same quality as a Wattpad fanfic???

It's literally like winning the lottery and spending the whole fucking money on bitches and luxuly instead of a investing a part to keep the money for as long as possible and spending the rest with responsibility.

Why waste such a rare opportunity to tell the story you love so much in a large studio with the best writing possible?!?! Why?!?

Adam could have been such an amazing and interesting character. He could have been one of the best depictions of the first man.
Hazbin Hotel could have been an amazing and interesting show with profound themes!! like Bojack Horseman and Avatar.

It's like a disrespect to all indie writers and artists!

It's one of the reason why many people have been turning against indie shows recently. The others, like Murder Drones or Digital Circus, have a justifiable reason for still being 100% indie and not having much support. BUT VIZIPOP HAD THAT SUPPORT, AND EVEN SO, SHE MADE THE SAME MISTAKE AS ALL THE OTHERS.

SO WHY VIVZIE, WHY?!?!?

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Ahem- damn this was more like a rant. Sorry, i was just really passionate about this show concept Adam's character in general lol

(This is all just a concept for fun!! I don't plan to actually rewritting the whole show lolol)

- Immediately after their deaths, Adam and Eve were condemned to murder the demons of hell as a form of punishment for the first sin.
- ⁠Both Adam and Eve ate the forbidden fruit, just like in the Bible.
- ⁠Adam and Eve are the only exorcists. There are no armies.
- ⁠Adam and Eve are Archangels.
- Adam and Eve absolutely hate the genocide. After all, they are causing even more suffering to all their children, who were already suffering in the first place because of them!
- ⁠ Everyone in Heaven knows about the genocide (named The Cleanse) but no one besides Samara, Sera, and all the Seraphim knows that Adam and Eve are the ones forcibly carrying it out.
- ⁠The Cleanse happens for 7 days, every month, all year round.
- ⁠The main objective of The Cleanse is to kill sinners, but killing hellborns is also allowed.
- ⁠When they're not slaying demons, Adam and Eve are placed in a sort of unconscious coma, from which they only awaken when the next Cleanse arrives.
- ⁠ Adam and Eve are not allowed to interact with anyone besides Samara, Sera and themselves. They are also forbidden from being seen without their masks by anyone that are not Samara, Sera or any Seraphim.

And fun fact: Adam and Eve never swear! :)

What do you think?✨

First time messing with the cameras, and while I was distracted messing with the key frames, this happened. I actually wanted to do that but I didn't even know this was possible????
And I can't even find a way to delete the second one.

Does someone know HOW I DID THIS and how to delete the second one? Edit > Delete; doesn't work....

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