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Two sources for a load of free good UFO books

I noticed on the Reddit UFO forums that many newcomers are asking about UFOlogy books, and two sources where many free, very good UFO books are available.

 

One is Amazon Kindle Unlimited, about 12 bucks a month

 

Then get the Hoopla digital library app on your PC, and if you have a library card, there are hundreds to thousands of free UFO books.

 

 Also, the new James Fox Moment of Contact: New Revelations is free on Roku

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u/Snoo-26902 — 6 hours ago
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What we demand must go along with “disclosure”

When this is vaunted by many confessions by the USG that they have dead aliens, crashed saucers, and alien tech in their possession, we should demand that “ proof” be subjected to intense scrutiny by impartial scientists NOT connected to the USG in any way, if possible.

 I’m tired of hearing about all of this BS, so PUT UP OR SHUT UP!!!!

 And if you do produce such evidence, since you’ve lied for 80 years, then your proof must be scrutinized by impartial scientists because

 Your word is not reliable. You have broken our trust again, again and again.

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u/Snoo-26902 — 3 days ago
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Why Ufology is Important

Compared to politics, religion, and science, it’s an attempt to solve all the mysteries of all of these fields of human knowledge.

It’s a shortcut that, if solved, may be a bonanza of knowledge!

So, while on one hand it's getting kind of ridiculous with all the whistleblowers, not really whistleblowing, the podcast warriors, peddling all kinds of weird tales, the intelligence agents blowing all kinds of smoke, and now the small-time politicians no one has ever heard of are at the forefront of the UFO boom, indeed, as bizarre as all of this stuff has become, nevertheless, this place UFOlogy in America in 2026 is as they used to say: This joint is jumping!

Where else can all the major ontological, scientific, and occult theories meet?

And if solved, maybe at the very essence of all the mysteries of humanity sought by all the scientists, religionists, and philosophers.

So, for better or worse, this topic is drawing attention. Thus, the massive interest in the US government's UFO files.

Then we can deduce that attention is being directed here, to UFOlogy in America. Why?

Do we see the meme being projected?

The meme is that some great revelation is coming, and it will filter to humanity through the lore of Ufology, likely connected to science, religion, and the occult.

 

So, believe it or not...

Just keep looking.

 

 

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u/Snoo-26902 — 10 days ago
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AI Busters

This may be a lost cause, but what the hell.

In response to the OP here on 30s and 40s jazz, I searched for 30s and 40s jazz on YouTube and was horrified at the number of AI sites!

You know, those generic AI jazz sites like Afternoon Jazz or Vintage Jazz, with glossy graphics and clear AI.

But not all of them are AI; some have similar graphics, and they are 10 years old, so they are cool. I've checked some of them.

So I'm here using AI to beat AI , in theory, but it's a losing battle, I think.

The first two links below are sites for uploading music from sources like Spotify and YouTube to determine whether it’s AI-generated.

Some people can tell, but most can’t

The last link is actually from Gemini Google AI on how to detect AI music

Being a long-experienced Information technologist, I would be a hypocrite hating technology.

And much of AI is useful, but it's invading music like a virus, and it scares me. Even Rick Beato and many YouTube musicians are warning against it. This information I offer is from AI and is an example of its useful, non-destructive character.

I think there should be a law making it a crime to produce public content using AI without labeling it as AI.

Private content is a different matter; I wouldn't want that to be made illegal.

https://www.submithub.com/ai-song-checker?id=950abfbba55d8e0b AI music checker 1

https://letssubmit.com/ai-music-checker AI music checker 2

https://www.google.com/search?q=How+to+determine+an+AI+music+site+from+one+that%27s+not+AI&rlz=1C1RXQR_enUS1135US1136&oq=How+to+determine+an+AI+music+site+from+one+that%27s+not+AI&gs_lcrp=EgZjaHJvbWUyBggAEEUYOTIHCAEQIRigATIHCAIQIRigATIHCAMQIRigATIHCAQQIRigATIHCAUQIRiPAjIHCAYQIRiPAjIHCAcQIRiPAtIBCjc0ODIzajBqMTWoAgywAgHxBZGkm1EZg53e8QWRpJtRGYOd3g&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8How to detect AI. From Gemini Google

u/Snoo-26902 — 16 days ago

Breakthrough: JFK Murder Solved

This is a good doc and puts Johnson in a different light.

It claims ( and offers a lot of evidence) that he was forced to start the Vietnam War by the same forces that murdered JFK.

It's a free doc here by John Hanky...I would watch it all.

https://fawesome.tv/movies/10673017/breakthrough-jfk-murder-solved

He points to JFK's autopsy with generals, admirals, CIA, and MI agents all over the autopsy room and ordering the inexperienced and handpicked autopsy doctor what to do and what not to do is prima facie proof that they were saying to the world: that's right, we killed him.

This was not only a message to the world but to Johnson. He shows here that Johnson delayed the Vietnam War escalation until after he was elected in a landslide, and still he avoided it until his family was threatened; then Johnson gave in and started the Vietnam escalation that ended in the horrible war.

u/Snoo-26902 — 18 days ago
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Ultimately, why are the disclosure people are full of crap?

I’ll get straight to the point; no long OP.

 In the middle of a typical human f_____ up war where 100s of school girls have ben slaughtered by stupid depraved men in leadership in not the only the US and Isreal as you expect me to say but the knuckle head stubborn forget what happened 80- years ago Iranian leadership too!

Russia too and their depraved WWIII-threatening war on Ukraine.

And the nukes and the environment being ruined as we speak, millions of still starving children and grown-ups across the planet in the age of billionaires and all other issues that prove the human race is wanting, and we want disclosure.

 Don’t make me laugh!

Oh, the no health care for the indigent, cut taxes for the rich, cut food stamps, support the military-industrial Intelligence complex Republican party wants disclosure.

Don’t make me laugh...

Don’t you people get it why UFOs fly around nukes, appear first to racist America to an interracial couple, school children in integrated Rwanda school where likely in America they couldn’t find an interracial school to appear to!

 DON’T YOU GET IT

Hundreds of messages from experiencers telling us that we are a threat not only to ourselves but possibly to other areas of the universe we don’t even realize it, and they want disclosure...

Don’t make me laugh...

 

“Physician Heal Thyself”

... and all will be given to you!

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u/Snoo-26902 — 30 days ago
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Do they know something we don't know

...From a spiritual perspective...

In Buddhism, there is a tradition that so-called gods or higher beings, who may be jinn, also need enlightenment; the Buddha taught some of them as well around 2500 years ago, despite their advanced scientific abilities.

Therefore, is it possible that higher beings we call aliens may know something we dont know about metaphysics (the science of religion), so they are here... waiting?

It goes to the theory of the coming of the three or four M's from the three main Western religions: Judaism, Christianity, and Islam, which are waiting for a Messiah--Jesus in Christianity and Islam, the Messiah of the Jews( who never accepted Jesus as Messiah and another Islamic holy man called the Mahdi, supposed to come along with the second advent of Jesus. Lastly, Buddhists are awaiting the arrival of the Maitreya.

So the four M's, as predicted in these religions, will come at the end of time.

Messiah-Jesus Christianity and Islam are waiitng for

Messiah of the Jews...of course, if Jesus is that Messiah, then his second coming covers that

The Mahdi--- Coming in Islam at the end of time.

The Maitreya---the Holy figure the Buddhists are waiting for.

So, are the 3-4 M's the very reason alien species are here? They may know something we dont know and are waiting for the 3-4 M's.

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u/Snoo-26902 — 1 month ago
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The UFO community is being programmed and put to sleep

https://www.reddit.com/r/UFOs/comments/1te637h/rep_luna_finished_review_of_40_videos_set_for/

So, according to one of the congressional leaders, Ms. Luna, AARO is now in the game regarding the release of the Trump files.

I wonder whether the UFO community sees what's going on here? I doubt it.

Don’t you see you're being bamboozled into pacification?

It’s strange, I keep pointing out that there's not a peep about the crashed saucer retrieval and dead alien legacy programs. Not one word from not even Dave Grusch himself, or any of the numerous UFO specialists who beat that drum over and over, about SCIFS and the legacy programs, what we had from Eric Davis to Hal Puthoff, Paradign Institute and numerous others.

What is the legacy program?

AI Overview

>The Alleged UAP Crash Retrieval Program

>Popularized by investigative documentaries like The Age of Disclosure, this term refers to a highly classified, deep-state UAP (Unidentified Aerial Phenomena) crash retrieval and reverse-engineering project. 

> Whistleblowers and intelligence insiders have alleged that this deeply buried, permanent bureaucracy involves elements of the CIA, Air Force, Department of Energy, and private defense contractors. It is frequently cited as operating outside of standard congressional oversight or presidential control. 

 Just like we were programmed like cattle to defer the long-accepted term UFO to UAP and aliens to NHI—ever so much more sophisticated—after the 2017 TTSA rollout and the NYT 2017 groundbreaking article. The UFO community now is being lured to sleep by this rollout.

 It doesn’t matter what the truth is, which we are far away from that truth; what matters is them blatantly trying to again manipulate us.

 Don’t you see that the UFO gatkeeper disclsure fanatics, including Dave Grusch BTW, is totally ignoring the legacy programs with these so-called UFO-released files, which I assure you will come to nothing spectacular or anything near any kind of disclosure.

 

 

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u/Snoo-26902 — 2 months ago
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Trumps UFO release response meets with open scorn

According to Gemini

Based on reports and social media activity around May 8-10, 2026, the Trump administration's release of 162 declassified UFO/UAP files was met with significant skepticism, apathy, and, in many corners of Reddit, open scorn. 

https://www.google.com/search?q=Trump+release+of+UFO+material+met+with+scorn+on+Reddit&rlz=1C1RXQR_enUS1135US1136&oq=Trump+release+of+UFO+material+met+with+scorn+on+Reddit&gs_lcrp=EgZjaHJvbWUyBggAEEUYOdIBCjY0NDk2ajBqMTWoAgiwAgHxBVHvvtmZtY4i8QVR777ZmbWOIg&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8

There's more at the link

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u/Snoo-26902 — 2 months ago
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The ramifications of the release on the disclosure movement

Again, IMO, as usual so far, a release with unfulfilled promises.

What will be the impact of the release of these files on the disclosure movement?

The mostly negative responses may have many saying: Look at them, they can’t be satisfied

And most of the ardent politicians who are braying for disclosure are republicans and are they going to criticize this underwhelming release of these files by their president? I doubt it. What is their response?

They will probably tell us that the remaining releases will be better

The debunkers will I believe be very underwhelmed and say something like: you see there is nothing to disclose.

And as for all those FBI files, the bottom-right-hand corner of the folders seems to indicate they are not classified.

And finally, what about the crashed saucers and biologics of Grusch? Isn’t that supposed to be what disclosure is all about? Those legacy programs that hold the proof of disclosure that all these UFO leaders have been braying about for so long.

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u/Snoo-26902 — 2 months ago
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Extraterrestrial Hypothesis

Metaphysical/Occult

Space Brother Era

Spiritual/religious/demonic or angelic

New Age Hypothesis

Conspiratorial view

 

ET Hypothesis

It started in 1947 with the 9 saucers seen by the ex-military pilot Keneth Arnold on the 24^(th) of June, John the Baptist's birthday. A special day for Freemasons.

 I mention that because underneath, I will write about UFOs from the spiritual, metaphysical, and occult perspectives.

 That sparked the obvious discussion about extraterrestrial visitations from outer space.

In fact, the first official USG investigation into UFOs, Project Sign, in 1948, many of those involved concluded the UFOs were extraterrestrial, but that was suppressed by higher-ups who wouldn’t allow that to be concluded.

‘Edward J. Ruppelt, a director of Project Blue Book, noted in his 1956 book that there was a "bitterly divided" faction, with some officers and scientists believing in an extraterrestrial origin, although this was never adopted as the official position.” AI overview

Metaphysical/Occult

During the early and mid-fifties, the ET hypothesis was first challenged by UK specialists who concluded that this was a likely interdimensional phenomenon on the occult side of reality, not ET-based.

 Alongside that, some American occult-based researchers, such as Meade Layne (1882 – 1961), began espousing similar ideas that UFOs were a metaphysical phenomenon rather than extraterrestrial.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meade_Layne

Coming of the Space Brothers

Also, during that era, we had what became known as the space brother era of Ufology, 1950 to early 60s, when supposed experiencers like George Adamski (1891–1965) claimed to have been contacted by ET craft from Venus and, in some cases, even Mars, and to have been taken aboard crafts and driven around the universe.

Other well-known space brothers include George Van Tassel (1910–1978), New Jerseyan Howard Menger (1922 – 2009), and Truman Bethurum (1898–1969), among many others.

Even though science has largely debunked these UFO supposed contactees, this era is very rich, one can say, in exotic UFO contactee lore. This is a controversial but legitimate UFO school of thought.

Anyone interested in this rich era of contactee lore might want to get the Kindle book A is for Adamski: The Golden Age of the UFO Contactees.

 Metaphysical/Occult...continued

Again, along the same timeline developed within occult and even masonic circles was and still is the interterrestral or ultraterrestrial UFO hypotheses.

Some of this is based on the famous magician and mystic Aleister Crowley (1875-1947) and his associate, the rocket scientist Jack Parsons (1914 -1952), occult magical activities, which saw Crowley introducing a familiar-looking ET figure he had supposed to be communicating with named Lam, looking very much like the familiar small ET we all know of today.

https://www.reddit.com/r/HighStrangeness/comments/1nm98d6/aleister_crowleys_lam_gray_aliens/

Some even speculate that the occult magical ritual that Parsons performed in 1947, the Babalon working, along with the Scientology founder L. Ron Hubbard as his magical assistant, started the ET phenomenon by “letting something in.”

 So, we can say that the Space Brother era and the occult UFO ideas were somewhat along the same timeline.

But of the two, the occult UFO doctrine has maintained a degree of respect unlike the unscientific space brother era.  Well-known Ufologists like John Keel and Jacques Vallee, along with his ( Vallee's) research partner J. Alan Hynek (he and Vallee were, or are, somewhat believers in the Rosicrucian philosophy), were adherents to the idea that the UFO phenomenon is likely of interdimensional or ultra-terrestrial origin.

Anyone interested in this occult UFOlogy might want to read the books by magician and UFOlogist Allen Greenfield: The Secret Rituals of the Men in Black and The Complete SECRET CIPHER Of the UfOnauts.

 https://www.reddit.com/r/hellier/comments/ge2kqf/the_secret_rituals_of_the_men_in_black_allen/

Spiritual/religious...God or the Devil

Alongside these genres of Ufological thought is the religious, yin and yang, or the idea that UFOs are demonic, angelic, or heavenly based. This covers some of the religious spectrum within its contours.

We have the information from well-known UFO researcher Nick Redfern’s so-called Collins Elite from his 2010 book, The Final Events

https://www.reddit.com/r/HighStrangeness/comments/cc6a9d/ufology_the_occult_and_the_collins_elite_military/

Where is entailed the story of the US military Christian fundamentalist factions' overt attempt to suppress interests in UFOs based on their private religious beliefs that the UFOs are demonic.

Also, the UFO abductee, the late Dr. Karla Turner, expressed similar trepidations about sinister UFOs and aliens abducting humans.

And even outside of a religious context, the famous UFO abductee researcher, Budd Hopkins, bitterly castigated the “aliens” for abducting humans and exposing them to such horrors.

This attitude is countered by many pro-UFO alien New Agers, and even Dr. John Mack, who claim these abductions are often positive events in the lives of abductees.

 https://www.reddit.com/r/UFOs/comments/1qbjxg4/what_do_you_think_of_dr_karla_turners_perspective/

Interestingly, there aren’t too many well-known UFO believers who think it is an angelic phenomenon, but there certainly are many who think so, but just aren’t as well known as the other genres. Diane Pasulka has explored this angle extensively in her books, so it may be an angelic phenomenon or a new religious experience.

Another great source of this angle is the book by Jacques Vallee, who examines the potential danger of UFO religious cults in

Messengers of Deception: UFO Contacts and Cults

 

Conspiratorial View

Last but not least is the general proposition by some that the UFO phenomenon is some kind of mainly USG scam to use as a prop to do all kind of nefarious activities to produce secret weapons or used as an excuse to prop up an eternal defense budget of colossal proportions or some Illuminati, Bildegergers scheme to produce a one-world government through what is known as project Blue Beam, an alleged USG scheme to produce:

“a fake alien invasion or "second coming" using holographic technology to establish a New World Order. Originating in the 1990s by Serge Monast, it claims this, coupled with mind control, will replace all religions with a new-age belief. AI overview...

That idea, along with the general conspiratorial view, is problematic... Though I don’t want to be critical of any of these UFO perspectives and want to present an objective and impartial outlook, this view doesn't explain that this is a worldwide phenomenon, not just American.

 

Finally, I'll briefly outline this poster's view...I am an ardent believer in the UFO phenomenon. My personal philosophical view is known as Integral Philosophy, which holds that all or most ideas have degrees of truth and that reality is rarely black-and-white. So, the UFO phenomenon, like most things in our existence, may have grains of all or most of these factions. A little here, a little there, and some in between, and some we haven’t even covered, perhaps!

 

Stay Tuned!

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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u/Snoo-26902 — 2 months ago
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This is the basic theory based on the analysis of the evidence of the long-range UFO disclosure scam. It all started in 1953 with the Robertson Panel edict:

>a.    That the national security agencies take immediate steps to strip the Unidentified Flying Objects of the special status they have been given and the aura of mystery they have unfortunately acquired;

Then, in Hollywood, we had numerous crazy UFO alien movies of a particular farcical nature flooding the market.

Then the overt fraudulent Aliens from Mars and Venus space brother Adamski types flooding the UFO market.

Roswell

Long after Roswell was buried, since its 1947 coming out, in the late 70s and early 80s, we had the all-of-a-sudden return-to-Roswell story in a book written by the Bermuda Triangle bestselling author Charles Berlitz and soon-to-be intelligence community dupe William Moore (though probably even then an intel informant). [ Moore would later come out at the famous Mufon conference of 1989 and admit openly he was an AFOSI [Air Force intel police) informer and deliberately spread disinformation]

 So, in these early years, we saw Roswell return to infamous publicity. Then, more books by many other UFO authors soon followed. All heading to one of the most well-known but often forgotten venomous USG intel episodes that drove one UFO researcher literally to the mental ward, the Paul Bennewitz affair!

https://www.reddit.com/r/UFOs/comments/1bzk3v7/paul_bennewitz_and_the_disinformation_campaign/

>For those who don’t know: In the 70s and 80s, a man by the name of Paul Bennewitz was victim of a targeted disinformation campaign that led to his psychiatric hospitalization. Richard Doty, who was an agent for the Air Force Office of Special Investigations drove Bennewitz insane. Bennewitz, like many of us here, was really invested in UFOs. He began recording strange lights coming from Kirtland Air Force base which turned out to be classified air force projects. So a target was placed on Bennewitz in order to stray him away. Not only that, Doty (and presumably others) began spreading false information from inside the UFO community in order to muddy the waters.

 Of course, it wasn’t just Richard Doty, but Bill Moore also lent a hand in the psychological downfall of a good man who was lured into believing ridiculous UFO stories.

These stories, like gruesome tales of aliens holding humans in torturous captivity in underground caverns, were massively spread through the UFO community since that time

 But also, many don’t realize that many researchers accuse J. Allen Hynek of being the one who gave Bennewitz that phony, rigged computer that tricked him into believing he was communicating with aliens.

 Then, during this era, the famous MJ12 documents were mailed to Bill Moore’s research assistant, Jaime Shandera, and he, along with well-known and respected UFOlogist Stanton Friedman, went on for years trying to prove the documents' veracity. They didn’t succeed, and to this day, the MJ12 documents have caused a great division within the UFO community of believers in them versus the non-believers.

 Then came many other UFO false tales sponsored by Intel-connected people that have been buried in the public mind, such as in the early 2000s, the Serpo hoax connected to Richard Doty, Hal Puthoff, and Kit Green, by a group of adept UFO researchers who used then-existing technology to connect the three by IP address to this hoax. All that information has been permanently buried by the end of the Above Top Secret conspiracy site!

 Let me briefly, parenthetically, illustrate how the Intel group usually operates, which will lead us to the Intelligence chicanery of this modern era, which started in 2017 with the so-called TTSA group founded by Tom DeLonge.

 The intel boys don’t usually initiate these hoaxes and disinformation UFO psyops by themselves. They wait for what is known as a useful idiot or dupe.

 Please see this YouTube upload: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=409SD8MJL7A

Also free on Tubi

What happens when someone comes to a USG military intel group or personage and offers themselves to them to help the UFO cause: Bennewitz did that in the 70s, and Tom DeLonge did the exact same thing around 2017.

 He actually went to the now-disappeared retired Air Force General McCasland. McCasland sent him on a journey to intel groups to decide who wanted to exploit him, and he ended up starting a UFO organization, according to his own words, paraphrasing, “to help them show the US public that the US military is heroes regarding the response to UFOs!

Then, TTSA was littered with ex-intel and CIA agents, to the bone, and eventually led by Luiz Elizondo, a DOD intelligence agent, where they made an entirely phony and FAKE back story telling us he resigned from a fictitious UFO organization called ATTIP because he was mad, they didn't give it the attention it should get. (The UFO organization WAS NOT ATTIP. It was AAWSAP, and Elizondo had absolutely nothing to do with it. ATTIP was a nickname for AAWSAP, started by Harry Reid to hide it from the US military brass. The intel schemers behind TTSA simply usurped the name ATTIP and branded Elizondo with it for the sake of their psyop simply to deceive the American people. And it was a resounding success!

 So that briefly, is their standard modus operandi when they want to infest the UFO community and American people with UFO disinformation. They often exploit well-intentioned people, as they did with Bennewitz, who came to them first, and now with Tom Delonge. In the case of Bill Moore, they actually recruited him, as he was a prominent Ufologist inside the UFO community. And he eventually participated in the Bennewitz affair and other UFO disinformation schemes before he confessed.

 Back to the main story.

So that’s how they usually do this.

As regards TTSA, the motives behind it are similar but not exactly to Steven Greer's ideas about spreading fear about UFOs to the public to start a USG/UFO war of the worlds. Greer goes too far by peddling his own UFO theology. Actually, all they want to do is to do three basic things here:

 One, follow the original diktat from the Robertson panel;

>That the national security agencies take immediate steps to strip the Unidentified Flying Objects of the special status they have been given and the aura of mystery they have unfortunately acquired;

Then, two, along the lines of other USG military industrial complex desires, exploit the UFO phenomenon by spreading the fear meme and advance an eternal bloated defense budget into the economic stratosphere.

Then, particularly and locally, start the Space Force military incentives, as was done in 2019...

Now, surprisingly, TTSA basically went out of business in 2021. They were no longer needed.

 The leftover mess from this disinformation psyop is now run by—before the disclosure movement—obscure republicans without any power to do anything substantial, while on the one hand screaming for disclosure, they are only gatekeeping the issue for the farce that it is with their right hands by calling for a meaningless disclosure( that will never happen anyway, and even if it did it would enlighten us about what the UFO Mystery is all about) and destroying disclosure with their left hands. As we see, Republicans in Congress scuttle any real legislation that could force disclosure.

I don’t accuse these congresspeople from the republican party of bad intent, just that they are being used by forces beyond them.

One has to understand that I don’t accuse people of bad intent without proof, as the peddlers of UFOtainment do to sell books (I’m not selling any book or podcast) or to heighten rhetoric to gain popularity through division. I seek to enlighten people on what is happening based on evidence, not ideological, financial, or egotistical self-interest.

 I don’t claim any inside information is behind my theories, just the objective analysis of the historical evidence.

Finally, that evidence DOES NOT point to any end-time Armageddon between God and the devil, or between some evil or good aliens (whether divine or demonic), and the USG military, but to an end-time domination by some cosmic force that will guide and dominate the human race back to some kind of balance in the greater cosmic scheme of our existence.

Correcting Thom with Tom on 5/4/26

 

u/Snoo-26902 — 2 months ago
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How is Optimum Fiber? They've been advertising to me extensively. Is it worth it?

I left Optimum regular non-fiber internet last November, as they were charging me 76 a month to get Verizon. Now they're swamping me with this new fiber for 25 a month. I must have had 20 business cards put under my door, as Optimum and Verizon are at war in my building.

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u/Snoo-26902 — 2 months ago