u/Snoo-26902

Of course, I can’t prove this, but Dave Grusch’s Rogan interview looked phony to me. It's as if Rogan were willingly setting him up to reveal his UFO high strangeness to debunk his own case; he only challenged this high-strangeness ufology—something Grusch didn’t testify to in Congress—over that irrelevant alpha-dog episode. Sure, it looked creepy, but it is irrelevant to the utter weirdness of Grusch’s ufology, which is not remotely provable!

What I’m saying is they both willingly took part in this interview, with the object being Grusch’s undermining disclosure for good.

If or when he goes back to Congress, they will question him about all his Rogan interview claims.

And just imagine what the Congressional members who gutted the UAPDA will say. He's given them a sledgehammer to keep gutting the UAPDA.

If folks don’t think this was and is all planned out, then they aren’t too aware of the USG intelligence agencies' history.

I mean, it was hard enough to prove the USG has or had a few dead aliens and crashed and intact saucers. But now Grusch has raised the bar to the impossible: Reptilian versus grey wars, Reptilian murder of USG military personnel, which sounds so similar to the high strangeness ufology of Phil Shneider and many other high strangeness believers.

Personally, I have no problem with high-strangeness ufology; everyone has the right to believe such things or not, and I myself have beliefs along these lines, but the mainstream US Congress, the more scientific establishment, and the general public probably won't accept it.

 

 

This post is a short reference to the leading UFO theorists' ideas about the origin of UFOs, pertaining to the interdimensional idea versus the Extraterrestrial, or ET, hypothesis.

It's not a long list because it boils down to whether these phenomena are intergalactic or come from outside our Solar System, from another planet and another far-off solar system, and are purely physical, or whether they are interdimensional or paraphysical phenomena.

Interestingly, some of the earliest believers in interdimensional or paraphysical phenomena were UK theorists, writers, and science fiction authors in the 50s—and a UK air marshal who seriously speculated that the phenomenon was paraphysical or interdimensional; the air marshal even speculated that the occupants of UFOs were immortal!

Some of the so-called space brothers in the 50s and 60s either picked it up or independently theorized it; most notably, occult thinker Meade Layne conducted UFO research and concluded that the phenomenon was paraphysical or interdimensional. Also, the astrophysicist and researcher Morris K Jessup brought it into paraphysical theory

The Ufologist and researcher of occult and weird topics John Keel eventually believed the UFO and ET phenomenon was wholly spiritual or paraphysical and interdimensional and ardently refuted the idea that UFOs were from outer space in any form from another planet.

Joining him was the reputable Jacques Vallée, who firmly embraced the interdimensional or paraphysical theory. Vallée may have been influenced by his adaptation of Rosicrucian beliefs.

Most traditional Ufologists, including Richard Dolan (who is no longer as rigid on the subject as he once was), Stanton Friedman, James McDonald, and others, including Air Force Major Donald Keyhoe, the first theorist of the ET hypothesis, believed that UFOs are from outer space.

One can say that the ET hypothesis was, for a time, the default belief, and the interdimensional hypothesis came about a little later and has drawn many other adherents to the theory.

Finally, what I see is that the truth, or what the reality of UFOs is, cannot be proven at this point in UFO history. Maybe folks who are spiritually advanced in some form know it, but still can’t convey that reality to others. So, it boils down to personal belief and experience.

So, what is your belief at this point: ID hypothesis or ET hypothesis, or do you have no opinion?

I think both aspects may have degrees of reality. Some may be interdimensional and some intergalactic.

 

 

 

 

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 A perfect microscopic analogy of what's happening today is the well-known Paul Bennewitz/Richard Doty event, where massive USG disinformation was placed directly within ufology to make it a farce, and to obey the 1953 CIA-sponsored Robertson Panels edict:

That the national security agencies take immediate steps to strip the Unidentified Flying Objects of the special status they have been given and the aura of mystery they have unfortunately acquired;

  In the 80s, that disinformation campaign worked by three individuals: Richard Doty, poor Paul Bennewitz, the UFO-obsessed dupe, and the famous Ufologist and counter-intel recruit product William Moore.

 That scheme was so perfect that, for years, the UFO community was plagued by its ramifications.

This has many believers sidetracked by the notion that UFOs and ETs are torturing humans underground, having a deal with the USG to kidnap and torture humans and even cows and other animals!

 So, that disinformation psyop was so successful that they started another one beginning in 2017, when another typical UFO enthusiast-dupe came along named Tom Delonge, in the mold of the William Moore and Bennewitz archetype of a manipulated UFO enthusiast; the sinister psyop crew within US intelligence decided to run another Doty/Bennewitz/Moore scheme, but this time ON A MASSIVE BASIS!

And they have massively succeeded beyond their wildest dreams and our nightmares!

The nightmares refer to the UFO community being duped, fooled, and manipulated again by the sinister intelligence agencies of the US.

 It’s no coincidence that ALL of these exotic tales of dead aliens, crashed saucers, and alien tech wars come from past and present USG intel agents. Just as this type of disinformation was shoveled to the dupe Bennewitz (and then massively to the UFO community) in the 80s by Doty, who then recruited Bill Moore into the intel squad.

At least, Bill Moore repented and confessed his actions, unlike today's dupes, who are led to believe so they don’t even know they're being used like puppets on a string.

 Moore Confession

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dUfimKiS-po&t=3s

I wish the community would finally see all of this for what it is. A long-range disinformation psyop. Number one: during the TTSA period, they spread NOT exotic UFOlogy, as is being spread now through these so-called whistleblowers, but science and the fear meme. They spread the fear meme to lend a voice to the continuing massive defense budget increases and to get the Space Force to spread weapons in space. They got those things, and then TTSA went out of business—mission accomplished.

Phase two began in 2023
With the advent of Dave Grusch and other whistleblowers and podcast warriors.
Eventually, people will lose confidence in ufology amid the constant drumbeat
about disclosure, and figures like Greer and Corbell will leave the UFO community,
cynical (which is massively happening now) and tired of all the BS inside it,
so they will move on.

 

 

 

 

I know that sounds like a joke, but no, really, I’m very serious.

First thought: who would run such a program? The well-known DOJ witness protection program, which primarily protects ex-mobsters who have ratted out their former associates, is run by the US Marshals Service. And they do a great job, I believe. So why not extend this to UFO whistleblowers? The dirty dogs who secretly harass whistleblowers won't dare touch them if they are in this program, right?

Of course, the US government is still involved; there is no way around that, but it might be a good idea.

Now, the whistleblowers involved must understand that, like mobsters, they'll get a new identity, move around the country, and stay anonymous for the rest of their lives. Even though there are on-record notorious ex-mobsters who have left the WTP and still survived, like Salvatore "Sammy the Bull" Gravano, the one who ratted out John Gotti, has a podcast!

Anyway, it may not appeal to them, but ex-mobsters who went into this go from big bucks to a moderate standard of living, so if they can do it, maybe others can too, without too much hassle. But for them, it beats jail

Overall, it might be appealing enough to work. And it is a viable way to protect them after the whistleblowing.

I know recently Mathew Brown asked Trump for protection in the event he is absolved of his NDA. This can be an adjunct to that.

It’s been a long journey. But the UFO community is waking up to a more mature group that demands proof, not rumors and rumors of rumors about UFOs. No more second- and third-hand "trust me, bro" stories without a shred of evidence.

Yet there are still naïve believers who believe the stories of "trust me, bro” and that” In Two Weeks” all will be revealed, which always turns into Snake Eyes.

I am a firm believer in the UFO phenomenon. There is something vitally mysterious and real behind it, but we need facts and proof, not more nebulous Richard Doty-type hype backed only by USG intelligence agents peddling disinformation.

So, we don’t need to become overly cynical despite this experience of being kind of conned into this present disclosure obsession, which has led nowhere.

There is good evidence of UFOs, but the advent of USG Intel disinformation has clouded the issue unlike in any other country in the world.

Brothers and sisters, we will arrive at the truth when our methodology for seeking becomes sober, realistic, and demanding of proof, rather than naïve belief. Not truth that conforms to our personal desires, but objective reality.

>Then we will truly experience that age-old aphorism: Then you will know the truth and the truth will let you free.'

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John Coltrane... Acknowledgement

John Coltrane...Greensleeves

Miles Davis...So What

Miles Davis... All Blues

Oliver Nelson... Blues and the Abstract Truth

Sonny Rollins...Alfie

Horace Silver...Son for My Father

Dave Brubeck...Take 5

Art Blakey...Moanin

Art Blakey...Night in Tunisia

Lee Morgan...Sidewinder

Lee Morgan...Mr. Kenyata

Pat Metheny...Jaco

Wes Montgomery... Bumpin'

Wes Montgomery...Angel

Gene Krupa...Sing..Sing...Sing

Herbie Hancock...Cantaloupe Island

Wayne Shorter...Armageddon

Freddie Hubbard... Red Clay

Dexter Gordon...One Flight Up

I’ve been critical of this present-day disclosure movement for reasons I won't go into here closely.

But it has a positive aspect that is clear and often pointed out by prominent disclosure figures, such as Chris Mellon.

Indeed, looking at this reference to the UAPs near the moon story makes me wonder: which USG body is there to look at this objectively and draw a conclusion? AARO? NASA? The new Space Force? PURSUE? Maybe, but only AARO is commissioned to deal with the UFO subject directly.

Of course, there are military, intelligence, and scientific bodies that can look at this, but no direct USG UFO-related group or body I know of that can right now confirm or debunk it or even look at it but AARO!

Then there is AAWSAP. (Please NOT ATTIP, which was the nickname for AAWSAP, coopted by Elizondo and the secret Intel group behind him to create a myth that he ran it...a falsehood.) But AAWSAP was defunded in 2012.

So actually, THERE IS NO OFFICIAL USG body directly looking at UFOs, in real time, but AARO, as I see it, is very problematic.

So maybe we should be less interested in ideas about dead aliens, crashed saucers, and alien tech wars and more interested in creating a legitimate, empowered, and trusted USG organization or related scientific body dedicated solely to investigating UFOs.

I don’t mean groups like PURSUE that look at disclosure activities. So, all we have now is AARO!

AARO has a confidence level of zero inside the UFO community, so I doubt they would be a sufficient group to investigate this, but that’s all we have!

So, one good thing is that this disclosure movement has done is expose the total lack of USG apparatus to look at UFOs.

Also, as of now, there seems to be no governmental international, maybe UN-based, group of scientists looking at this issue either.

We can buck up AARO, but to me, AARO should never have been commissioned to do what it did and to report on the veracity of past UFO activity. And if they were, the time allotted to them was too short. That seems to have been a setup to discredit it, and it surely did.

This all started around 2015-6, when Tom DeLonge, a famous rock 'n' roller and UFO enthusiast, decided to create an organization dedicated to helping the American people gain respect and admiration for the military-industrial complex and the US military intelligence apparatus’ response to UFOs. That agenda and, of course, another one dedicated to giving the public UFOtainment, which Delonge would benefit from through his multi-apparatus UFO fiction and entertainment vehicles he would create, along with an alleged UFO research arm of his new group, wholly led by ex-and present USG intelligence agents, and USG past defense department officials, and one from the military-industrial complex.

Anyone with a modicum of knowledge of USG disinformation schemes centering around UFOlogy would look at this and immediately suspect trouble ahead!

And indeed, trouble ahead has manifested in one of the most successful cynical disinformation psyops in American history, and it has succeeded in spades and still goes on!

Phase one of this psyop centered around Lue Elizondo. But I'll get back to this soon. Let's first go over the start of Tom DeLonge's organization, To the Stars Academy—TTSA.

At a gathering of one of the military-industrial complex’s bigwig events, DeLonge approached one of them and tried to convince him of the need to create an organization dedicated to informing the public about the heroism of the USG military and intelligence response to UFOs and the story of secret machines that demonstrate the USG's technological capacity. He was led to a USG military official to present his ideas.

Tom DeLonge went to a clandestine meeting with a former military general at a restaurant, sort of on the QT. He was briefed on government secrets and covert projects, prompting him to form TTSA to facilitate UFO disclosure. He had previously been sent around to a few types of officials in the Intel agencies to tell them about his interests in creating an organization dedicated to telling the American people about the valor of the USG intel agencies' and military heroic response to UFOs!

In other words, he was sent around to see which agency wanted to exploit him.

I think the CIA chose him, perhaps with aid secretly from the Air Force intel AFOSI.

Indeed, one of the retired USG military officials he contacted was General William McCasland, the recently disappeared general we have all heard of.

All right, let's get back to Elizondo, starting with the legitimate USG program, AAWSAP, which Elizondo would eventually usurp for this psyop and rename it AATIP.

The original DoD official program, which is in the USG Defense Department's public information database,

https://documents2.theblackvault.com/documents/dia/AAWSAP/Contract_FY10.pdf

https://documents2.theblackvault.com/documents/dia/AAWSAP/09117-Final_Packet_Presented_to_DepSecDef.pdf

 Notice there’s no mention of any ATTIP; it's AAWSAP, run by BASS or Bigelow Aerospace

They ran the so-called USG UFO program study from 2009 to 2012, but, in fact, much of that study wasn’t UFO research ONLY but research on something Bigelow had been studying since the 90s: the well-known Skinwalker Ranch, with its spooky goblins, werewolves, and ghosts.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6XD4gQS_-qY&list=PLWSZeedvRDFEnM9Kz9Egope5Ssa1fSDnD&index=5

At the end of this program, its sponsor, Senator Harry Reid, sought to make it an SAP (Special Access Program, an elite status that would further embed it within the USG's secret programs. In doing this, he wanted to hide AAWSAP, so he used a nickname, AATIP, for AAWSAP; yet it was still denied, so AAWSAP was officially defunded in 2012.

Eventually, Elizondo created a mythology that he ran AATIP (AAWSAP). Frustrated by the USG's lack of sufficient interest in UFOs, Elizondo supposedly resigned from his job at AATIP.

( YET HE NOW CLAIMS HE WORKED FOR THE SPACE FORCE IN 2019) I THOUGHT HE QUIT?

 Well, first of all, folks, HE NEVER WORKED AT SOMETHING CALLED AATIP BECAUSE IT DIDN’T EXIST!!!!

IT WAS A NICKNAME FOR AAWSAP!!!! WHICH WAS DEFUNDED IN 2012...

This is bogus and an outright falsehood that Elizondo ran ATTIP, the official USG UFO program that the NYT claimed in its famous 2017 article.

At best, Elizondo only UNOFFICALLY studied UFOs on the side, part-time, as an intelligence agent for a defunded UFO research program?

So, we are supposed to believe the USG ran an unofficial UFO program, run by a counter-intel agent who is trained to deceive and lie. That’s why he was elected to run this scheme, folks, because he is a good, well-trained liar! He is a counter-intel agent, not any UFO researcher.

Originally, Elizondo, who was told by his handlers to separate AATIP from AAWSAP, repeatedly denied being in AAWSAP.

Yet later, after many were exposing his scam, such as an article in The Intercept, he changed and said, " Yes, I was in AAWSAP after all. https://theintercept.com/2019/06/01/ufo-unidentified-history-channel-luis-elizondo-pentagon/

So, the lie changed. Now Elizondo was head of AAWSAP's security team. And those who knew he was bogus actually defended this lie.

 If you read the history of AAWSAP, there is absolutely no mention of Elizondo doing anything for AAWSAP...NOTHING. NOT EVEN AS A JANITOR.

What happened was that the CIA, which is likely the intel agency behind this scheme, told Harry Read and the real head of AAWSAP-AATIP, James Lacatski, to take it easy on Elizondo and not denounce him too harshly. So, they mildly told us no: Elizondo had nothing to do with AAWSAP-AATIP. But out of respect for the new CIA's disinformation scheme, they didn’t fully expose him.

Just ask yourself: who has the power but the CIA? Who has puppets inside the US MSM--- to spread the propaganda that Lou Elizondo ran the USG secret ATTIP UFO research program, when there is not a shred of evidence that he did such a thing?

NOT A SHRED!

Yet it was all over the MSM, and in fact, it was such a flimsy lie that John Greenwald exposed that ATTIP was called by up to eight different names, among them below:

Politico called it the ADVANCED AVIATION THREAT IDENTIFICATION program... Then the NYT called it THE ADVANCED AEROSPACE THREAT IDENTIFICATION PROGRAM; Another outlet called it:

ADVANCED AERIAL THREAT IDENTIFICATION PROGRAM

 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6XD4gQS_-qYSee info start at 8:10

The main reason for phase I of this UFO psyop was to help keep the USG defense budget in the stratosphere, as they succeeded in doing through the fear meme. Then, to get started with the official USG Space Force and weapons in space, which was done in 2019. Not long after, TTSA slowly went out of business.

Only the personal UFO ex-USG intelligence agent experts, such as Elizondo, who, because of his mainstream popularity, managed to write a best-selling UFO book; I would bet it was ghostwritten. And the other CIA-connected TTSA people also now have books and are mainstays on the UFO podcast warrior circuit.

Since Elizondo's popularity within UFO circles, he has made numerous gaffes that any legitimate UFO expert would NEVER make, which proves he is far from any UFO expert. https://www.reddit.com/r/UFOs/comments/1kcw85l/elizondos_crop_photo_is_disinformation_and_a/

The UFO Disinformation Psyop: Motives, Agenda, and Acts. Part II

In 2023, phase II of this psyop began with the advent of David Grusch and his 2nd hand tales of dead aliens, crashed saucers, and alien tech wars. The same reporters who brought us Elizondo brought us David (second- and third-hand rumors) Grusch, who many believe is a nice guy. Maybe so, but he still is spreading unprovable disinformation, actually wholly backed up by the disinformation psyop crew behind Elizondo and TTSA, IMO.

In phase I, Elizondo rarely got into the spooky things within UFOlogy. No, he was all science-based, so he said. That's because his goal was not what Grusch started in phase II, which was all about starting the UFO community on an obsessive hunt for crashed saucers, dead aliens, and alien tech wars in a supposed "disclosure" effort.

Well, folks, how has that gone?

A constant drumbeat of In Two Weeks or two days or a month from now or during this documentary ALL WILL BE REVEALED.

From the famous egg video, perpetuated by Australian investigative reporter Ross Coulthart, who has been one of the mainstays peddling all of this UFO disclosure obsession, all the way to numerous other In Two Weeks disclosure disappointments.

It reminds one of that old Cyndi Lauper song, Time After Time

Indeed, Time After Time, since Grusch and Coulthart, and many UFO podcast warriors in Phase II of this disinformation psyop, we have been deluged with numerous events that would initiate DISCLOSURE.

My good friends in the UFO community, this is and has been ALL theatre, directed by MK Ultra types behind the scenes utilizing paid disinformation agents.

What's amazing is that these disclosure lures always get exposed, and those without shame repeatedly come back to do it again and again and again and again and again and again.

I tell you again, this is all BS. It is a disinformation psyop dating back to 2017 with two phases, and we are at the end of phase 2, aimed at three goals, including making ufology a joke.

Presently, believe it or not, the UFO community is led by right-wing Republican Congresspeople supposedly all for UFO "disclosure" and, of all people, Donald Trump! How low can we go?!

Phase one was to spread the fear meme through Elizondo and Delonge's TTSA to get the defense budget to the stratosphere, which they did, and then the weaponized space force, which they got in 2019. Then TTSA basically went out of business. Mission accomplished.

Phase two, with Grusch's dead alien-biologics, crashed saucer, and alien tech myth spread within the UFO community, raising disclosure obsession all to be denied in the end, to breed massive UFO cynicism.

Just ask yourself why most of this is from USG intelligence agents, who are also behind the disclosure-lure information fed to the few journalists covering this.

Just think about all that has gone on.

They gave us AARO, and in no time flat, everybody hates AARO.

We get another UFO panel led by a dual Israeli/American citizen who's already predicted that two comets were UFOs, along with a super UFO-hating debunker, and you think that's going to work?

And so in the end, we are depending this disclosure on the most dishonest, corrupt president in US history.

We're being played (with) folks... like a fiddle.

 In the end, the goal here is to make Ufology a running joke in order to, as the Robertson Panel commanded in 1953:

a.    That the national security agencies take immediate steps to strip the Unidentified Flying Objects of the special status they have been given and the aura of mystery they have unfortunately acquired;

A few times, yes, but not much.

It seems Miles did, on a few occasions, have a vocalist in his music, first only before the 60s, back to the 40s, then some in his fusion era.

During the fusion era, some members of his band occasionally vocalized at live concerts.

And one of his bass players went on to become an R&B star. What I always wondered was why, when Miles was ardently trying to reach the mass audience that the rockers were reaching, he didn’t employ a more consistent vocalist. Maybe, to get that super hit single, he needed to really reach a massive rock audience, including the inner-city urban audience.

He had all the ingredients of that possibility, but never employed that vocalist-infused style nearly enough to reach the core of successful commercial rock.

Of course, you have the example of smooth jazz and Herb Albert, and Kenny G, known to jazz as elevator-type music that was very successful commercially, but that wasn’t Miles’ stick.

I think Miles' ego wouldn’t allow him to play any kind of cheap music to make it. So he employed a deep, very artistic fusion style, but still never reached the massive black audience he wanted to reach

Miles definitely tried to reach an urban R&B audience with his On the Corner album and many other works, but, as far as I know, never regularly employed a vocalist, which might have helped him achieve that goal.

Miles' music in that era did a lot to reach the more sophisticated rocker type, mostly the white foreign and US markets, but it never reached the massive inner-city population that a well-produced, funky R&B-type piece with vocals would have IMO. All one needed was one hit.

 Apparently, he didn’t feel the need for that, since he became massively successful without a vocalist in the fusion era, where he was paid handsomely for his concerts, particularly abroad.

I noticed on the Reddit UFO forums that many newcomers are asking about UFOlogy books, and two sources where many free, very good UFO books are available.

 

One is Amazon Kindle Unlimited, about 12 bucks a month

 

Then get the Hoopla digital library app on your PC, and if you have a library card, there are hundreds to thousands of free UFO books.

 

 Also, the new James Fox Moment of Contact: New Revelations is free on Roku

When this is vaunted by many confessions by the USG that they have dead aliens, crashed saucers, and alien tech in their possession, we should demand that “ proof” be subjected to intense scrutiny by impartial scientists NOT connected to the USG in any way, if possible.

 I’m tired of hearing about all of this BS, so PUT UP OR SHUT UP!!!!

 And if you do produce such evidence, since you’ve lied for 80 years, then your proof must be scrutinized by impartial scientists because

 Your word is not reliable. You have broken our trust again, again and again.

Compared to politics, religion, and science, it’s an attempt to solve all the mysteries of all of these fields of human knowledge.

It’s a shortcut that, if solved, may be a bonanza of knowledge!

So, while on one hand it's getting kind of ridiculous with all the whistleblowers, not really whistleblowing, the podcast warriors, peddling all kinds of weird tales, the intelligence agents blowing all kinds of smoke, and now the small-time politicians no one has ever heard of are at the forefront of the UFO boom, indeed, as bizarre as all of this stuff has become, nevertheless, this place UFOlogy in America in 2026 is as they used to say: This joint is jumping!

Where else can all the major ontological, scientific, and occult theories meet?

And if solved, maybe at the very essence of all the mysteries of humanity sought by all the scientists, religionists, and philosophers.

So, for better or worse, this topic is drawing attention. Thus, the massive interest in the US government's UFO files.

Then we can deduce that attention is being directed here, to UFOlogy in America. Why?

Do we see the meme being projected?

The meme is that some great revelation is coming, and it will filter to humanity through the lore of Ufology, likely connected to science, religion, and the occult.

 

So, believe it or not...

Just keep looking.

 

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vVdPwaUPETQ  Theme from Body Heat

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ByzHnUPsido&list=OLAK5uy_l_e-cJleJy4xuAOdE7ecIqarnYm9mYdAw   Cotton Club

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VKmq9BivBL4 Farewell My Lovely

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hxZLfcVPkYk  Make Me Rainbows from the film Fitz Willy, done here by Stanley Turrentine

 

 

 

I’ll get straight to the point; no long OP.

 In the middle of a typical human f_____ up war where 100s of school girls have ben slaughtered by stupid depraved men in leadership in not the only the US and Isreal as you expect me to say but the knuckle head stubborn forget what happened 80- years ago Iranian leadership too!

Russia too and their depraved WWIII-threatening war on Ukraine.

And the nukes and the environment being ruined as we speak, millions of still starving children and grown-ups across the planet in the age of billionaires and all other issues that prove the human race is wanting, and we want disclosure.

 Don’t make me laugh!

Oh, the no health care for the indigent, cut taxes for the rich, cut food stamps, support the military-industrial Intelligence complex Republican party wants disclosure.

Don’t make me laugh...

Don’t you people get it why UFOs fly around nukes, appear first to racist America to an interracial couple, school children in integrated Rwanda school where likely in America they couldn’t find an interracial school to appear to!

 DON’T YOU GET IT

Hundreds of messages from experiencers telling us that we are a threat not only to ourselves but possibly to other areas of the universe we don’t even realize it, and they want disclosure...

Don’t make me laugh...

 

“Physician Heal Thyself”

... and all will be given to you!

...From a spiritual perspective...

In Buddhism, there is a tradition that so-called gods or higher beings, who may be jinn, also need enlightenment; the Buddha taught some of them as well around 2500 years ago, despite their advanced scientific abilities.

Therefore, is it possible that higher beings we call aliens may know something we dont know about metaphysics (the science of religion), so they are here... waiting?

It goes to the theory of the coming of the three or four M's from the three main Western religions: Judaism, Christianity, and Islam, which are waiting for a Messiah--Jesus in Christianity and Islam, the Messiah of the Jews( who never accepted Jesus as Messiah and another Islamic holy man called the Mahdi, supposed to come along with the second advent of Jesus. Lastly, Buddhists are awaiting the arrival of the Maitreya.

So the four M's, as predicted in these religions, will come at the end of time.

Messiah-Jesus Christianity and Islam are waiitng for

Messiah of the Jews...of course, if Jesus is that Messiah, then his second coming covers that

The Mahdi--- Coming in Islam at the end of time.

The Maitreya---the Holy figure the Buddhists are waiting for.

So, are the 3-4 M's the very reason alien species are here? They may know something we dont know and are waiting for the 3-4 M's.

https://www.reddit.com/r/UFOs/comments/1te637h/rep_luna_finished_review_of_40_videos_set_for/

So, according to one of the congressional leaders, Ms. Luna, AARO is now in the game regarding the release of the Trump files.

I wonder whether the UFO community sees what's going on here? I doubt it.

Don’t you see you're being bamboozled into pacification?

It’s strange, I keep pointing out that there's not a peep about the crashed saucer retrieval and dead alien legacy programs. Not one word from not even Dave Grusch himself, or any of the numerous UFO specialists who beat that drum over and over, about SCIFS and the legacy programs, what we had from Eric Davis to Hal Puthoff, Paradign Institute and numerous others.

What is the legacy program?

AI Overview

>The Alleged UAP Crash Retrieval Program

>Popularized by investigative documentaries like The Age of Disclosure, this term refers to a highly classified, deep-state UAP (Unidentified Aerial Phenomena) crash retrieval and reverse-engineering project. 

> Whistleblowers and intelligence insiders have alleged that this deeply buried, permanent bureaucracy involves elements of the CIA, Air Force, Department of Energy, and private defense contractors. It is frequently cited as operating outside of standard congressional oversight or presidential control. 

 Just like we were programmed like cattle to defer the long-accepted term UFO to UAP and aliens to NHI—ever so much more sophisticated—after the 2017 TTSA rollout and the NYT 2017 groundbreaking article. The UFO community now is being lured to sleep by this rollout.

 It doesn’t matter what the truth is, which we are far away from that truth; what matters is them blatantly trying to again manipulate us.

 Don’t you see that the UFO gatkeeper disclsure fanatics, including Dave Grusch BTW, is totally ignoring the legacy programs with these so-called UFO-released files, which I assure you will come to nothing spectacular or anything near any kind of disclosure.