u/Substantial-Mouse855

I've seen a lot of people's experiences although recently, I heard something that I thought I had to mention 1st. At a young age, men are told to "suck it up" making them more self reliant. Being self reliant is a good thing although because of this, men start developing the "figure it out yourself" mentality which is why you can often hear the men's silent depression kind of news.

The problem I'm trying to point out isn't just the men's mental health issues but the fact that compared to how people treat men, women are given things much easier earlier on in life allowing women to be independent but still open when they need help.

Another thing brought up in the news I saw was how at a young age, we are shown by parents to always respect women. As the men in this world grow, they can find relationships but normally it's the man's family who is so accepting. In most relationships it's the woman's family that's so unaccepting. Now, sure, it makes sense why the woman's family would be so unaccepting, if the woman chooses the wrong choices with him, both parties to pay with a lifetime just to take care of a baby. The issue with this is how it can affect the man's form of thinking, they could think that women are the most important people and are above men. If you actually look at how the man's family acts, normally they act more friendly to the woman to their own son just because they don't want the woman to walk off. Of course, it's more common to just make men more kindly towards women compared to men. A cause this could also make is making men give more attention to women to the point they'll get more curious about women which can sometimes lead to the men who women complain about (people complain about these kinds of men because they are the reason women are forced to have a dress code in school) (this is still a common outcome as men are normally more into figuring out new things because of the "figure it out yourself mentality")

Because of all of this I found a main problem throughout life, ever since we were born, both genders were treated differently and it doesn't just end there, it continues throughout life, even within dating. This is the whole reason obsessions towards women are made, this is why men sometimes try to spice a friendship between them and a female up.

The 2 problems:

Problem 1 - Men are made to act too self reliant faster within life to the point they get the specific mentality which then makes them unwanting to get others help

Problem 2 - Men are raised to act like women are superior and everything

Sure, this subreddit has been quite... Absent recently, although, I will reassure all my members that this community will continue! Men are targets of SA as well, men are stereotyped to hide emotions compared to sharing emotion, and men are definitely the targets of prejudice. Some might say that the men pointing this out after feminism began are just the few men trying to grab attention but guess what! Men also had problems just like men and if you didn't know the statement feminism is for everyone doesn't actually work in practice because it's specifically focusing on women's rights to the point they kept on accidentally taking some of the men's rights while protesting which are actually fair! So this community is needed until the equality for men is in movement as well!

If you want to support this movement, go ahead! Feminism is about helping women's rights while masculinism is about helping men's rights, together the world can obtain equality, so I do suggest helping this community grow.

So, recently I was wondering about some of men's inequalities in life and then remembered some situations such as what happened in South Korea (they removed a military perk because they thought it was gender discriminatory just because men are forced to serve in the army). Of course, the South Korean people could just add the perk back although, if feminism points the perk out again in the future, they could try and strip the perk away again. Because of this, I was wondering, why don't we just make a new conscription system? Some people are probably against conscriptions but seeing as the Korean war is technically ongoing, they need the conscription to remain. After wondering about a system that is both beneficial and non gender specific so the law can't argue that the perks are gender discriminatory, I came down to one solution. If you fail to find a university or college to attend in a 5 year time span after high school, you can get conscripted regardless of gender although, if you fail to get into a university or college but if you got a job that can sustain your life within that time span of 5 years then you will not be conscripted.

So, recently, I realised the phrase "feminism is for everyone" was just to manipulate men to encourage feminism as well. Sure what I said might have sounded rude although I've found out some stuff feminism did to make inequalities for men. When I realised this I figured, ok, feminism is obviously not for everyone! I'll just make a masculinism community. When I showed this community to feminists, they all said, and I quote "women have been fighting for rights for years now and apparently we're the bad guys?!" And another quote "what are these precious rights women stole from men?" Once I explained my case, they said stuff such as"those laws were pretty much against women" which another community full of feminists said the opposite, where they were on my side in this political argument. In the end that one server at the start was against masculinism, of course I didn't care because they were the same people justifying misandry when they were against black people hating on white people for historical reasons. Even though I don't care about that community, I want to know why feminists are against masculinism? They both aim for equality for both genders which will eventually make this world more equal!

An experiment was conducted where researchers asked participants if they’d rather sacrifice the life of a male bystander or female bystander for the greater good. 88% chose to sacrifice the male bystander, with the participant’s gender having no significant impact on this decision (2-3/10).

“Moral Chivalry: Gender and Harm Sensitivity Predict Costly Altruism” (2016) https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/pdf/10.1177/1948550616647448?download=true (10 pages)

Co-author Dean Mobbs, professor of cognitive neuroscience at CalTech (and formerly an assistant professor of psychology at Columbia University), was quoted saying, "There is indeed a gender bias in these matters: society perceives harming women as more morally unacceptable”.

A separate study found that people in general are more willing to endorse interventions that cause instrumental harm, or harm in the name of the greater good, to men than they are to women (9/13), with women and feminists endorsing those interventions even more (7-8/13).

“Worth the Risk? Greater Acceptance of Instrumental Harm Befalling Men than Women” (2023) https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC10022566/pdf/10508_2023_Article_2571.pdf (13 pages)

https://link.springer.com/content/pdf/10.1007/s10508-023-02571-0.pdf (same study, different link)

Co-author Tania Reynolds, an assistant professor at the the University of New Mexico, provided her thoughts on why feminists more readily endorsed IH against men, saying, “Perhaps people who identify as feminists or egalitarians perceive men to have benefited throughout history, and therefore they now evaluate it as fair if men suffer and women gain an advantage”.

One of the major explanations for why we’re more sensitive to harm befalling women is Moral Typecasting Theory where we instinctively stereotype men as agentic perpetrators of harm and women as passive victims of harm. Participants in the following study (n = 3,137) found the issues faced by female victims to be more compelling than those exact same issues faced by male victims while judging more harshly those who victimized women than those who victimized men (15/22).

“Man up and take it: Gender bias in moral typecasting” (2020) https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Tania-Reynolds/publication/342642686_Man_up_and_take_it_Gender_bias_in_moral_typecasting/links/5f46bfa5a6fdcc14c5c755e6/Man-up-and-take-it-Gender-bias-in-moral-typecasting.pdf (22 pages)

Same study, different link: https://iswmatters.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/Reynoldsetal2020-GenderBiasMoralTypecasting.pdf

These findings were replicated with a sample of children (3/8).

Grigoreva, A. D., & Tasimi, A. (2025). Children’s gendered expectations of moral parties. Scientific Reports, 15(1). https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-025-94375-6.pdf (8 pages)

Other explanations can be found here:

The womb is the limiting factor to reproduction in societies, making women more reproductively valuable, so it made sense for societies to preserve women while treating men as more expendable (2/10). Another reason being that we stereotype men as agentic perpetrators of harm and women as passive (non-agentic) victims of harm (Moral Typecasting), and are thus more sensitive to women’s suffering (3-4/10).

“A feminine advantage in the domain of harm: a review and path forward” (2024) https://royalsocietypublishing.org/rsbl/article/20/11/20240381/63537/A-feminine-advantage-in-the-domain-of-harm-a (10 pages, PDF inside)

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC11557237/pdf/rsbl.2024.0381.pdf (study in pdf form)

A separate paper on why we prioritize women’s survival: https://www.researchgate.net/publication/362241567_Societies_also_prioritize_female_survival

This reluctance to expose women to harm was replicated in two back-to-back studies (published in 2021 and 2022), where it was found that both male and female participants respond more positively to female-favoring sex differences in (unbeknownst to them, fabricated) research and less positively to male-favoring sex differences, characterizing the latter as sexist and upsetting (7/23). Both male and female participants incorrectly predicted that men would react more positively to male-favoring research (4,10/23), underestimating how protective men generally are of women, with the study reading: “participants overestimated the extent to which people would be biased in favour of their own sex, with women overestimating men’s ingroup bias more than men overestimated women’s. These findings are consistent with the idea that both sexes are more protective of women than men, but that people tend not to be aware of this” (11/23).

“Reactions to male-favouring versus female- favouring sex differences” (2021) https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Steve-Stewart-Williams/publication/343169602_Reactions_to_male-favouring_versus_female-favouring_sex_differences_A_pre-registered_experiment_and_Southeast_Asian_replication/links/60ac500f92851ca9dce1e797/Reactions-to-male-favouring-versus-female-favouring-sex-differences-A-pre-registered-experiment-and-Southeast-Asian-replication.pdf (23 pages)

As with study 1, both male and female participants incorrectly predicted that men would favor male-favoring research over female-favoring research (7/12). As hypothesized by the authors, both men and women preferred the female-favoring research, consistent with the idea that people are more protective of women than men, far more so than they realize (8/12).

“People react more positively to female- than to male-favoring sex differences: A direct replication of a counterintuitive finding” (2022) https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article/file?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0266171&type=printable (12 pages)

2024 Follow-up: The harm hypothesis: How perceived harm to women shapes reactions to research on sex differences https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/38168745/ (couldn’t find a PDF unfortunately)

We can see the results of this bias play out in the real world. Articles attesting to women’s superiority/men’s inferiority by mainstream outlets are abundant while articles pointing at an inverse are scarce/non-existent. This reflects a societal bias where positive generalizations are socially permissible for women and impermissible for men while negative generalizations are socially impermissible for women and permissible for men.

Examples:

Forbes: If Women Are Better Leaders, Then Why Are They Not In Charge?

NPR: “Are Men Idiots Who Do Stupid Things? Study Says Yes”

Time: 'Men Are Idiots', New Study Says

CNBC: Need scientific proof men are stupider? We got that

Forbes: Why Women Are Smarter Than Men

Vice: Men Are Creepy, Study Confirms

HuffPost: Men Are Creepier Than Women, According To Science And Daily Life

Feminist Current: New study confirms that men are, indeed, creepy

Glamour: Why Are Men So Terrible This Summer?

The Week: Men are the worst. Here's how they can be better.

Independent: Why men are crap

Stylist: Science proves that women are stronger than men

Nature: When the going gets tough, women are tougher than men

The Guardian: The weaker sex? Science that shows women are stronger than men

NPR: Is It Sexist To Say That Women Are Superior To Men?

Guardian: Scientists confirm what women always knew: men really are the weaker sex

In a replication of the Milgram experiment, participants were three times more likely to withdraw when a woman was being zapped, irrespective of their own sex. (5/7)

“Would You Deliver an Electric Shock in 2015? Obedience in the Experimental Paradigm Developed by Stanley Milgram in the 50 Years Following the Original Studies” (2017) https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Michal-Folwarczny-3/publication/315065066_Would_You_Deliver_an_Electric_Shock_in_2015_Obedience_in_the_Experimental_Paradigm_Developed_by_Stanley_Milgram_in_the_50_Years_Following_the_Original_Studies/links/5c52b77992851c22a39d406d/Would-You-Deliver-an-Electric-Shock-in-2015-Obedience-in-the-Experimental-Paradigm-Developed-by-Stanley-Milgram-in-the-50-Years-Following-the-Original-Studies.pdf (7 pages)

Experimental evidence demonstrates that underperforming women are given better work reviews than equally underperforming men (6-7/13). What’s funny about this study is the emphasis on the harm this bias has on women.

“Gendered White Lies: Women Are Given Inflated Performance Feedback Compared With Men” (2021) https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/epdf/10.1177/0146167220916622 (13 pages)

Recently, I was looking in a Reddit where misandry was being used by everyone and their reason of using misandry was because "men are always abusing women", the thing about this is how if I said the same thing to justify misogyny then I would probably get cancelled. Back when I was a teen a group of girls slapped me and hurt me but in the end, after I pushed them away once, I got in trouble with a one school (permanent record) and got sent to bsu (behaviour support unit). Even though they did stop picking on me after that, I wasn't using that as a reason to be misogynistic. I fully feel like the people being misandry and misogynistic are just completely out of line especially, if they use a reason like this to hate an entire gender.

Last time people were thinking this post wasnt understanding what feminism was for and so on but!!! This is just because most feminists are generally looking in the female perspective, this can cause certain inequalities. Because of the unfair inequalities feminism can make for men I thought the best idea is a ying and yang system. This is why I made the masculinism campaign which is called... r/New_Masculinism !!! This should make sure feminism won't accidentally make an inequality for the opposite gender when they protest for certain law to be added or to be taken down. Again, this isn't discrimination against feminism but it's really just to help make sure the goal of equality for both genders are met.

Sure feminism is for everyone but it mainly looks at discrimination again female, because of that, they made a few inequalities in this world's aswell. because of the new found inequality made by feminism I wish to make this new masculinism to help strive for equality. Pretty much making is so feminism can focus on equality for women while men focus on equality for men so eventually we can read an equal world. This is pretty much me making a yin and yang idea for a campaign. This will make sure certain inequalities won't be made by feminists and toxic feminists.

https://www.reddit.com/r/New_Masculinism/

https://www.reddit.com/r/New_Masculinism/