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Matthew Brown, the man who revealed Immaculate Constellation, on what actually happened when he walked into ODNI: the promised whistleblower protection program was never offered, and the officer who questioned him now runs whistleblower intake at the ICIG

The Principal Deputy Director of National Intelligence has told UAP whistleblowers they can come forward through cleared channels: AARO, ODNI, and the PURSUE team.

Matthew Brown already did that. In this interview he walks through the meeting in detail: the protection program he was explicitly promised and never got, the offer to route him to the Intelligence Community Inspector General instead, the questioning that veered off UAP and into his weapons of mass destruction work, handing over his documentation, and then being ghosted and smeared as a fabricator.

He also covers AARO's treatment of Senior Chief Alexander Wiggins, what Sean Kirkpatrick told Rubio, Gillibrand and Warner, the LinkedIn message from AARO's prime contractor recruiting him for a role listing deception activities, the break-in where the only things taken were his grandfather's ashes and his passport, and Vanguard Enterprise, the nonprofit he co-founded to support UAP whistleblowers.

On November 24th, 2025, I put a specific chain to Lue Elizondo and asked him to respond to it on camera: that he had worked with CIA Ground Branch inside the Special Activities Center, that James Lacatski (who was in the UAP deep legacy program) pulled him out of his counterintelligence and technical protection function in the UAP Legacy Program and into AAWSAP, and that he then formed AATIP as a cover program with James Clapper in the Obama White House.

He did not confirm it. He also did not deny it. On the Ground Branch question his answer was:

"If you want to know if whatever work, any work I've done with the Central Intelligence Agency beyond my W-2s, I would recommend asking the CIA."

Note we had technical issues with our livestream with Joel, s we canceled it and taped the episode. This is that interview I hope everyone enjoys.

A theologian who worked with the Warrens says UFOs are not demons - Dr. Joel Parkyn on what UFO disclosure would do to Christianity

Dr. Joel Parkyn is an adjunct professor of theology at Holy Apostles College and Seminary and the author of Exotheology. He is not a skeptic of the spiritual. He worked with Ed and Lorraine Warren as an undergraduate and says demons are real and that he has had his own experiences.

He still says the demonic explanation for UFOs is wrong, and he is blunt about why: "The last time I checked, demons don't fly physical craft or have physical bodies." And: "When I hear someone say demons, I know immediately they don't have access."

He is just as hard on the other camp. He wrote an executive brief addressed to the House Oversight Committee and its Task Force on the Declassification of Federal Secrets arguing that disclosure is a civilizational event the churches have not prepared for, and he says he gave a copy to Rep. Eric Burlison.

We also asked him directly about the claim that the Vatican is sitting on a trove of UFO evidence. His answer surprised me.

A working Catholic exorcist said most UFO sightings are demons. His cardinal removed him for it. As the Pentagon keeps declassifying UFO files, theologian Dr. Joel Parkyn argues both the "they are demons" panic and the "religion will be fine" shrug are getting it wrong.

Host Matt Ford talks with him live this Sunday, July 12 at 1PM PT.

https://www.youtube.com/live/KzEdWGrW4YU

This Sunday (July 5, 1PM PT): Dr. Eric Davis, the astrophysicist who worked the Pentagon's UFO program and briefed Congress on "off-world vehicles not made on this earth," takes your questions live

Dr. Eric Davis is joining The Good Trouble Show for a live Q&A this Sunday. Davis is a theoretical and applied physicist, a former Aerospace Corporation researcher, and a Senior Science Advisor at EarthTech. He worked on the Pentagon's AAWSAP program, authored several of its Defense Intelligence Reference Documents, and is the source behind the Wilson-Davis memo.

We will cover crash retrievals and the legacy program, the Wilson-Davis memo and who controls access, what the president actually knows, AAWSAP and AATIP, Skinwalker Ranch, non-human intelligence, and the disclosure fight in Congress. He is a corroborating witness alongside David Grusch.

🔴 Live Sunday, July 5 at 1:00 PM PT
https://www.youtube.com/live/v-TlUnnJduQ

This Sunday (June 28, 1PM PT): Steve Aspin on the alien implant he coughed up, the forensic lab analysis, and the beings he says now look human | Part 2

Part 2 of my conversation with alien abduction researcher Steve Aspin premieres on YouTube this Sunday, June 28 at 1 PM PT, and I'll be in the live chat. In Part 1 he told his own story; Part 2 is the physical evidence: the implants podiatric surgeon Dr. Roger Leir removed from abductees (19 of 20 anomalous, one analyzed by a nanotech lab and reported to contain iridium and carbon nanotubes), the implant Steve himself coughed up and lost down the sink, the four types of beings he describes (small and tall grays, reptilians, and mantids), and his claim that transgenic beings who look exactly like humans have begun replacing the grays. We close on the book of his that was pulled from Amazon overnight in 2023.

Why a professional skeptic doesn't belong on Avi Loeb's new UAP Science Advisory Council

Michael Shermer was given a seat on Dr. Avi Loeb's new UAP Science Advisory Council. In this monologue I explain why I won't platform Shermer, using the one story that makes the case better than any argument: my own mother's.

Six months before she passed, she told me about a close-range craft sighting she witnessed at 15 and hid for her entire adult life out of fear of ridicule. I recorded her account and she identified the craft and the occupant from lineup drawings. She never told her family because she was certain they'd think she was crazy. That stigma is what professional skepticism manufactures, and it's why I don't think Shermer belongs on a panel built to collect exactly the kind of testimony his career discourages.

Steve Aspin, a retired medical-device inventor and author of Out of Time, describes a 1972 encounter at a Cheshire building site: two hours of missing time and a flying saucer seen through a glassless window that he says exactly matched Bob Lazar's Area 51 "sport model" drawing, which would not be public for another five decades. In Part 1 of his conversation with Matt Ford he also traces the origins of modern abduction research through Budd Hopkins and David Jacobs.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PcYuiq5yjfc

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Hey r/UFOs - Matt Ford here, host of The Good Trouble Show.

Avi Loeb recently announced he was tasked by the White House, AARO, ODNI, and the FBI to assemble and lead a new UAP Science Advisory Council. Liberation Times has since reported that his council is one of several outside expert groups advising a new interagency UAP Governance Board (ODNI / FBI / War Department), which reportedly held its first meeting this week. Loeb also told Michael Shellenberger that the council has no access to classified information and no legal authority.

He's joining me live tomorrow to walk through what this body actually is, how it fits into the bigger disclosure picture, and where it goes next - and the back half of the show is an open audience Q&A.

Bring your questions!!

🔴 Live Wednesday, June 17, 1:15 PM PT / 4:15 PM ET:

https://youtube.com/live/BIuyuYOymv4

Avi Loeb's new "UAP Science Advisory Council" (the one announced alongside the White House / AARO / ODNI / FBI) now lists Michael Shermer — founder of Skeptic magazine and the Skeptics Society.

This isn't "skeptics are bad." It's that Shermer has already publicly pre-judged the exact question the council exists to investigate, and has spent years mocking the witnesses it's supposed to evaluate. His own posts — all still up, all verifiable:

• A standing $1,000 public bet that alien disclosure will not happen, "in 2025, 2026, 2027, 2028, 2029 or 2030 … or ever." → link
• Called a 20-year Army counterintelligence veteran who came forward "delusional" → link, and suggested he may be "a fabulist" → link
• Wrote off decorated Navy F/A-18 aviators as "simply mistaken" → link
• Branded their accounts "part of the grift" → link

His doctorate is in the history of science (not a natural-science field), and his magazine/career are built on debunking claims like these — a professional stake in the answer being "no." Across 90+ posts over five years about these witnesses, his stance is uniformly dismissive.

For the UFO-history nerds: this rhymes with the Condon Committee of 1968 — a "science" study widely seen as built to dismiss UFOs before it began, still cited to wave the topic away. Seat a committed skeptic on a panel and you risk Condon 2.0.

The Good Trouble Show laid out the full case and asked the administration to reconsider the seat here → GoodTroubleShow tweet

Genuine question for discussion: is someone with a public wager against the phenomenon, and a documented record of calling the witnesses delusional, the right person to "objectively weigh the evidence"? Not an argument the council shouldn't exist — just that one seat undercuts its credibility before it reviews a thing.