Self isolation
Just sinking deeper into isolation. I cant talk to anyone in my life about this. They’re talking about stupid shit. I cannt radically accept this. I’m just angry. And fuck “redditcares”
Just sinking deeper into isolation. I cant talk to anyone in my life about this. They’re talking about stupid shit. I cannt radically accept this. I’m just angry. And fuck “redditcares”
If you’re on this sub or the main one you probably have a good idea of the scale of the predicament we’re in.
I’ve been active on these boards since 2023ish and in that time I’ve seriously questioned the direction my life is going in and can take in light of this predicament.
I was active in grassroots/community advocacy for a while in my early 20s. I was so concerned about doing good and being good.
Now at 27, I’m wondering what exactly all that concern was about.
The more I learn about our predicament, and about how much easier it is for the masses to accept dehumanisation and planetary destruction in exchange for bread and circuses, the more I come to hate humanity. This includes me. I hate that I’m human.
Which brings me to this question: why shouldn’t I also be hateful? Why shouldn’t I also cause harm? It’s quite easy for other people to be thoughtless, cruel, punitive, etc. They don’t have existential crises about it. They just do horrible things and go about their day, and we all contribute to the structures that allow them to get away with it because of bread and circuses, because we “don’t want to rock the boat”
Isn’t our idea of harm rooted in the fiction of morality? We say ”do unto others as you would have done to you”. But why should that matter? Who says you have to treat others in a way you’d like to be treated? There’s no cosmic order enforcing anything, clearly. Sure there’s jails and legal systems but some of the worst people among us rise to the top of those ranks specifically to engineer outcomes in their favour, rendering any justice system ineffective
We make up “morality” to cope with the fact that really, at any point, anyone can do whatever harm they want to you and it’s very likely nothing will be done about it
With that being said, why not just be hateful? Not like we‘re gunning to improve our situation on a mass scale. So might as well just indulge my authoritarian streak. At least that actually makes me feel good, as opposed to trying to believe that people are “good” and want to be free, and consistently being proven wrong when they only respond to violence and lies
*Responses from older Scorpios (30 and over) especially appreciated*
I’m 27, Scorpio Sun, Venus and Mercury. As a child I spent most of my time alone with books, nature, etc. I didn’t really understand other kids. As a young adult in college, I got better at socialising, even enjoyed it and dated a bit but people never stuck around long.
Now in my late twenties and in a period of transition in my life (going back to school for a Masters’ degree, recent friendship breakups, personal growth, taking my art and writing seriously, developing my political sensibilities and my spiritual practice at once) I have no idea how to incorporate new people into my life, let alone become long-term friends with them to the point that they’re my emergency contact or I’m part of their wedding party.
I think a long time ago I just assumed I would be misunderstood by most people, or the events/changes in my life (especially my internal life) would be unrelatable, so I just didn’t bother maintaining the few friendships I did manage to make. And I’ve become very comfortable in my solitude.
I want to ask older Scorpios, how do you manage this? As a human being I know I need belonging, recognition and companionship from others, but I crave a depth of both feeling and intellect that I can’t seem to get from the people I encounter, which leaves me preferring solitude.
I’m trying to be more intentional about how I‘m spending my time and who with but have not met anyone I like or trust enough to continue spending time with. At 27, I see other people my age who have people in their lives as friends, partners, travel companions, etc, their lives are teeming with people! I’m starting to worry that I should also have more people in my corner, and that by the time I enter my thirties I might not have anyone.
Advice appreciated…
“Release control” I can’t. When I know that no one is 100% trustworthy (I know that isn’t possible but it still bothers me) plus most people are utterly captured by the sociopathy/apathy of our time and are not interested in the truth but in forcing everything to cohere to their worldview because that is the fantasy frame helping them approach and cope with reality, plus the knowledge that my humanity will not be seen because of the characteristics of my human vessel, when I know all these things it’s simply impossible for me not to self-isolate.
What the fuck is up with the mods over on that sub? I've tried a couple of times recently and in the past to make posts for general discussion (that meet their rules) and they just remove/delete and turn super patronising in the modmail reply. I asked a question about people's experiences with 12th house placements (a question that's been asked multiple times on that sub) and was told in the modmail reply that I didn't have a thorough understanding of the 12th house (WHY DO YOU THINK I'M ASKING DUMMY???) and that I needed to forget what I've learned about the 12th house so far. They also said they prefer not to have 'survey-like' questions but as I said, questions asking about people's experiences with certain placements have been asked SEVERAL TIMES before
What the fuck is up with these guys?
I have this placement. Is anyone else with this also completely over being alive, being in a body, which in turn drives low ambition? I also feel sickened by the cruel and deeply flawed world we’ve built for ourselves.
I know I’m capable of achievements, I’ve done it before, but achieving anything in this material plane feels hollow. Especially in a socio-political climate like ours.
I’m sure I’d get the respect of my peers by pursuing status and money but I would feel cut off from my humanity and from my True Self. This seems like a less than ideal tradeoff. Achieving in this world seems like silly busywork to occupy ourselves and avoid thinking about death.
The philosopher Byung Chul Han talks about the “achievement society” we live in, in which we’re encouraged to market and brand ourselves as achievers performing self-optimisation at any cost. He talks about how past societies were way more punitive and told you what NOT to do, especially through the enforcement of religious or cultural codes. He compares that to our current times, where you’re bombarded through popular/social media with all the things you ”should“ be doing - going on this cool holiday, going to this cool restaurant, buying these cool clothes, taking this medicine or getting this procedure to be less yourself and more ”ideal”.
The only things I have patience for are reading, writing in my diary, going on walks through nature, making art, researching. I’m starting a Masters in depth psychology soon which I look forward to. But that’s about it.
Personally I love them. Controversial, I know. But they’re my absolute favourite, have been since I was a kid
Any other Bounty lovers out there?
Last weekend I lost my house keys somewhere outside/in public. After panicking and freaking out, I tried looking up how to do horary to find missing items
I’m not experienced in astrology but I do have a strong personal interest. I am often tracking my transits and trying to match events in my life to these transits
In my haste I looked up how to do horary for missing items but the interpretation seemed very complex and ended up making me more upset. I asked multiple questions at different times over the weekend. I don’t know what exact timing of the question I should use, whether it should be a yes/no question, etc
One of the questions I asked was “Where are my house and studio keys?” I used Regiomontanus as the house system using astro seek. I know the 2nd house represents personal possessions so I looked to its ruler in my chart Mars, which was transiting my Taurus in the 8th house. The keys are on the ground? In someone else’s possession? But I read Mercury can signify keys or things that are silver. So I looked to Mercury which was transiting my 9th house in Gemini. The keys are high up somewhere in a college or somewhere to do with travel?
I’ve already retraced my steps from that day and reported lost property to the public transport authorities (I was using the train and the tram that day). The keys and ID/library cards attached to the set are replaceable but not without minor inconvenience & embarrassment. The charms on them are not…
I just want to know if I‘ll get my keys back. Or if this is just another lost item I have to make peace with. I recognise I probably have issues with control that are leaking into my engagement with astrology but that’s a post for another day
How do I accurately cast a horary chart? Should I even be interpreting one myself?
I keep attracting Aries people!!!
Thinking about it now, most of the people I’ve been with have prob been Aries/prominent Aries placements and I just didn’t know 🤔
I feel like their potential to be bad for me is high but god that energy is addictive. I love love love Aries energy. It’s like erotic electricity… it activates something sooo urgent and primal and sensual in me esp since I’m a Scorpio Sun, Venus and Lilith!!! Like fuck me right NEOW tf!!???
No shade just wish my karmic debt was lighter… signed a tired Virgo Mars 12H
Hello, I would appreciate any advice you can offer me.
I am 27 and experiencing a spiritual crisis/failure to launch. I'm having major issues integrating my spirituality with the reality of my circumstances.
I'm currently living with my family in social housing (in western Europe) after an eviction from my last place. I'm trying to find ways to get out of here ASAP but the economic and housing situation for young people in my country is very dire. I'm searching for higher paying jobs and rooms to rent but I can't find anything.
I'm trying to lean more into my spirituality to cope (by following astrology, Buddhism, nondualism, reading Thich Nhat Hanh and Thomas Merton, reading about mystics etc) but the reality of the situation keeps slapping me in the face. I am so demotivated by my social/economic status, by the seeming pointlessness of my efforts, that meditating or trusting the universe feels idiotic in a world that is simply cruel and unforgiving.
I had a friendship breakup recently and now at 27 I have no close personal friends. I don't know anyone who follows spirituality and has similar interests in art, psychology, esoterica, etc. I feel too intense for people. I am also black in a white majority country that is becoming more and more openly hateful. I see the news of violence around the world and the world's indifference to or enjoyment of this suffering. Genocide, war, rape, sexual violence, child trafficking, exploitation, worker abuses, climate destruction... and all the people with a hand out and a smile on their face ready to make money from all of it. What does spirituality or empathy or oneness matter to those people when the total opposite is putting extra zeros in their bank account every day?
I am utterly alienated from others and from this reality. I find it hard to leave the house, to socialise, to stay present for people because this reality and everything to do with it seems so useless and inconsequential. Something in me is crying out to go home, but I don't know where that is or how to get there or why I'm even experiencing this feeling when I'm technically 'already home'.
But I feel sickened by this world. I have no idea what my business is supposed to be on this planet. If indeed my soul chose to come here I wish I could ask them why they would do that knowing I would have a terrible time and learn nothing, other than that humans enjoy their self-destruction and that there's very little any one person can do to change 'the system', which was manufactured by human beings to produce even more suffering and destruction to be enjoyed. I am in a body that repulses many people for different reasons, all out of my control, I was abused growing up, the people who abused me do not regard it as such and actually saw my suffering as deserved. I am rejected by friends, by family who don't accept my sexuality or life path, by jobs, by career opportunities. I go out into the world and the world tells me I do not deserve to live, that others don't deserve to live, by denying us shelter and food and opportunity and love and belonging. And I try to deal with these facts by... sitting for 5 mins? I don't know, I feel stupid.
I have artistic interests like writing and performing but none of these generate the income I need. Sure I might be 'happier' doing them but extrinsically these things are not valuable enough to generate the money I need to get out of the situation I'm in. And investing in them now when I'm not stable or secure feels like a waste of time I could be spending on making money. But I'm miserable regardless, because I'm here on earth when I would rather be anywhere else
I don't know what problems I need to be working on and whether I should even be thinking about spirituality right now. I sometimes feel angry at spiritual people and the part of myself that feels that metaphysical pull because these practices/interests haven't materially benefitted me. I'm not any richer, I'm not any more secure, I'm not doing materially better, so what exactly is spirituality for? This world is about making money, quick decisions, getting what you need to be secure and get ahead, and the contemplative life is literally the exact opposite of all that.
Sometimes I wish I could bypass the part of my brain that blocks me from doing things that feel 'immoral' or 'wrong'. It's not that I've never done anything immoral or wrong before. It's just that leaning into the instinct to do such seems to be paying off way more for more people than a loving or kind instinct is. The fact that I'm entertaining this thought is scaring me, because it means that I'm not a good or healed person entirely. But I'm also tired of my station in life. I'm tired of accepting a life of poverty and stagnation. Sure everyone hates Jeff Bezos and Elon Musk but you can't deny that they, their children, their children's children and beyond are completely 100% set for life financially. They will never struggle with rent, with immigration fees, with electricity bills. They will have every opportunity to pursue art and spirituality (or whatever else they want) with ease because they won't have material things to worry about while pursuing them. All because their decidedly non spiritual family members made certain decisions. It's hard not to compare yourself
What do I do? Do I abandon spirituality entirely? Do I need to be more cutthroat in how I approach life and career? Should I give up on a contemplative life? I have no idea. At 27 I feel I should be more certain about what I'm doing. But it all just makes me want to give up.
What do you think are the best sign/house placements for:
- singers
- guitarists
- choir directors
- rappers
in their careers? Doing a little personal research :)
dear fellow Libra risings, I need your help
How do you guys stay grounded in reality? I find myself dissociating like crazy, at work, at home, at gatherings, etc. Especially in social interactions, I struggle to come up with things to say that are conversationally interesting.
Memory isn’t great. The inside of my head feels sooo much better than actively participating or initiating in the real world. And I feel like my social skills are atrophying as a result so I end up saying or doing weird shit unintentionally lol
Anyone else?
Signed, a Scorpio sun/Pisces moon
I’m sick of living with family and feel so restricted here. I’m trying to learn to drive and searching for a new job that pays better than my current one, so that I can rent another room. But no luck, jobs don’t respond to me and there‘s a whole housing crisis in my country (I’m based in Europe)
Is there anything in my chart that indicates a change of circumstance soon? I know Uranus has just entered my 9th house and I actually am interested in going back to school. I just applied for a part time Masters and am applying to other MA degrees
I just need to know that I‘ll be out of this living situation and that my financial situation will improve. It feels kind of hopeless at the moment ngl