Redhead Handicrafts version of a PC-fan-based Corsi Rosenthal box

Here's a design for a quiet and portable Corsi Rosenthal box. It's a narrow design consisting of 6 PC fans on one side and a 14"x20" air filter on the other side.

I don't plan on building this design, but it has some great ideas that can be used for other designs, such as the use of a flange to help hold the filter in place.

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u/jhsu802701 — 10 days ago
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Why use duct tape instead of painter's tape or gaffer tape?

Duct tape seems to be the norm for Corsi Rosenthal boxes and other DIY air purifiers. The first drawback of duct tape is the sticky residue that it leaves behind. The second drawback is the VOCs produced. While the classic Corsi Rosenthal box is for removing particles and not VOCs from the air, it just seems wrong for an air purifier to be actively producing VOCs.

Painter's tape and gaffer tape, on the other hand, do NOT leave a sticky residue behind and do NOT produce VOCs.

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u/jhsu802701 — 11 days ago
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How do you protect the cardboard/foam board?

Most Corsi Rosenthal boxes consist of filters taped to cardboard or foam board. The problem is that the filters become dirtier as they capture more and more particles. Eventually, it will be necessary to replace the filters.

Unfortunately, removing tape from cardboard or foam board will tear it up and damage it. What's the standard solution? The instructions I've seen for building Corsi Rosenthal boxes never address this matter.

Here is my solution: Before taping filters to cardboard or foam core board, I put clear packing tape on it to protect it. I know it looks tacky, but at least I can keep using the cardboard or foam core board over and over again rather than expend the effort to obtain new cardboard/foam board and go through the entire build process all over again. Even if I were a billionaire, and money were no object, I would still insist on the protective layer of tape. Why does it feel like I'm the only one who has acknowledged the issue and done something about it?

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u/jhsu802701 — 12 days ago

Configuration for an array of five 120 mm PC fans on foam core board

I've used LibreOffice Draw (the open source alternative to Microsoft's Visio) to figure out a configuration for a five-fan array on top of four 16"x25"x1" filters. I've proven that there really is a way to do this with a comfortable margin. Unlike the two-filter design that seems to be more popular in this sub, this design has wide tolerances and does NOT require pinpoint precision.

A workable design is in the image I've provided. The configuration consists of four 16-inch-wide filters arranged to form a Corsi Rosenthal box with the same height and width. Each filter is 15.75 inches wide and 0.75 inches thick. So the square of foam core board required is 16.5 inches in both length and width. The space inside the four filters is 15 inches in both length and width.

In other words, the five 120 mm fans must fit within a space that is 15 inches long and 15 inches wide. The trick is to place one fan at each of the corners with the sides of these fans parallel to the filters. Place the fifth fan at the center but rotated at a 45-degree angle. The corners of this fan point to the spaces between the other fans. The strain relief grommet and hole for the cable connecting the fans to an electrical outlet can be placed in any of the four largest areas of empty space available.

Something else to note about the above drawing is that I rounded the size of the fans UP to 5 inches from 4.75 inches. Thus, the diameter of each fan is overstated by about a quarter inch, and that means that there is even more room available for the fans.

What's so special about 16-inch-wide filters? Filters of this size tend to be the cheapest and most abundant. Because they're so widely used, there is a large market for them. This means that these filters are made by a larger number of manufacturers, and these producers invest in economies of scale so they can build them more cheaply. Thus, the consumer benefits from the lower cost of production and the lower profit margins. In contrast, there is a smaller market for narrower filters, and the reduced competition and economies of scale mean higher prices.

Why is 16"x25"x1" my preferred filter size? The 16"x20"x1" filters are also cheap and abundant, but the 25-inch-long filters have more surface area but usually don't cost any more money. So the longer filters provide more bang for the buck. Thicker filters are more expensive and less abundant. (They'd also leave less room for the fans on top, to the point of not providing enough space for the fifth fan.) Filters of other lengths (like 16, 24, and 30 inches) aren't as common or as cheap, presumably because they're not as widely used.

u/jhsu802701 — 15 days ago

Why is this sub's wiki disabled?

Disabling the wiki makes it harder to get up to speed on the people talked about in this sub. The ones whom I know the most about are Carpetbagger, Papa Woo, and Mermaid Woo. I don't know much about the others, such as Tampa Jay, WrightDownMainStreet, Paging Mr. Morrow, and Dunebuggy Jim. A wiki, FAQ, or sticky post would make it easier to get up to speed on everyone discussed here.

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u/jhsu802701 — 20 days ago

How should I get rid of old pillows?

I have some old pillows that I no longer use for sleeping. No, they cannot be recycled in my area.

I know from experience that throwing old pillows into a bag for a Craigslist curb alert is a hit-or-miss proposition. (PLEASE do not tell me to use Facebook Marketplace or NextDoor. I unfriended Facebook in 2020 because the feed made it a toxic environment. I deleted my NextDoor account earlier this year for the same reason.)

I'm aware of the uses for old pillows - as padding for moving/shipping, as knee pads, and as pet beds. Unfortunately, most of the people in my area don't realize this, or perhaps the supply of old pillows out there exceeds the demand for them.

What are your favorite ways to get rid of old pillows?

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u/jhsu802701 — 21 days ago

Why does diet culture worship TDEE calculators?

If you look at the FAQs and wikis of the various weight loss subs on Reddit, one of the first things you're told to do is use one of those TDEE calculators to figure out how many calories per day your body uses and subtract a certain number from it. You just enter your height, weight, age, gender, build, and other parameters. The algorithm spits out a certain number of calories per day that you'd have to consume to maintain your current weight.

However, these TDEE calculators are a textbook example of Garbage In Garbage Out. They'd have you believe that a small change in calories per day corresponds to a LARGE change in weight. If you don't believe me, try one of those calculators yourself. Vary the weight while keeping everything else the same. You'll see that you'd have to gain or lose a LOT of weight to get much change in your daily maintenance calories.

Over the course of the seasons, my calorie consumption varies a LOT more than my body weight does. Cold weather gives me a large appetite. Bitterly cold weather gives me a gargantuan appetite. Hot weather gives me a small appetite. Enough food for July would be extremely inadequate for January. Enough food for January would be excessive for July.

According to those TDEE calculators, my summer diet is consistent with starving to death while my January polar vortex diet is consistent with being double to triple my actual body weight. Both extremes are lies. While I lose weight in summer and gain weight in winter, the change in my weight is more than a full order of magnitude smaller than what the calculators would have you believe.

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u/jhsu802701 — 1 month ago

Atkins Diet fad: Was this the beginning of fad diets going mainstream?

I remember when the Atkins Diet was all the rage in the early 2000s. I feel like I'm the only one who hasn't been on a low carb diet at one time or another.

Atkins wasn't the first kooky diet I heard of, but it felt like the first one to go mainstream. Prior to the rise and fall of the Atkins Diet, fad diets (such as the infamous Cabbage Soup Diet) were promoted in supermarket tabloids and other sketchy sources, not the mainstream media. I remember that interest declined after the death of Dr. Atkins himself in 2003, but the Atkins fad has since ended up being replaced by other kooky fads and schemes, including The Biggest Loser. I never imagined that the Atkins Diet would return, but it has. Diet culture simply slapped a fresh coat of paint on it and renamed it as the Keto Diet. Worse yet, some people complained that the Keto Diet isn't kooky enough, and this led to the even kookier carnivore diet.

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u/jhsu802701 — 1 month ago

Low calorie limit + high protein target = even more restriction

I've noticed that people think that they need to severely restrict calories while doubling down on protein. I've tracked my food intake on a few select days because I was curious, and I just cannot imagine eating under 1500 calories per day while also eating at least 150 grams of protein per day. It's just not possible to get 150 grams of protein from only 1500 calories from a variety of foods. So this requires lots of protein supplementation, but protein has calories. If you subtract the protein supplement calories, that means that the ration of real food is EVEN MORE restrictive.

Why doesn't anyone seem to notice how incompatible a low calorie limit and a high protein target are? This is yet another example of how dysfunctional diet culture is.

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u/jhsu802701 — 1 month ago

Do refined grains seem even less filling than they used to be?

Although I've always consumed much more fiber than the average person, I've increased my fiber intake since the spring of 2020 by eating even more of the whole grain foods and less of the refined grain foods. In the last few years, I've gotten into the habit of starting off each meal/snack with non-starchy vegetables and/or nuts, because it seems like a good idea for dampening any blood sugar spike.

I've noticed in the past few years that refined grains seem even less filling than they used to be. I once went out to eat for breakfast and ordered two boiled eggs and a bagel (with little or no fiber). This wasn't enough to satisfy my appetite, so I ate some nuts when I got home, and that helped satisfy my appetite. I'm also finding that pizza doesn't really fill me up that well, unless the weather is so hot that I have a tiny appetite that's easy to satisfy.

Eating out is when I'm most likely to consume refined grains. I don't eat out during the colder months, but I'm sure that if I did, I would much more acutely experience why foods with carbs but no fiber are called "empty calories". Indeed, I once learned first-hand about empty calories years ago (when my nutritional standards were much more lax) when I was camping out and ate cake for breakfast because the only other option available was donuts (which I hate). It was still well before 10 AM when I was suddenly overcome by a weird hollow feeling in my stomach. I didn't know what it was at first, and then it dawned on me that I had eaten cake for breakfast, and my blood sugar had just collapsed after the sugar high.

Apparently, my gut microbiome is so adapted to a high-fiber diet that all refined grains are the new cake.

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u/jhsu802701 — 1 month ago

Does Stalker Park Memories ever go anywhere else?

As far as I know, Stalker Park Memories spends all her time at Casey's Corner in the Main Street area of Magic Kingdom. (We know what she's notorious for, but I won't go into that here.) Doesn't she ever go to other attractions around Magic Kingdom? Doesn't she ever go to EPCOT, Hollywood Studios, Animal Kingdom, or the water parks? At least Ethan the Pervert goes to different parks in Disney World and even sometimes goes on a cruise. Yes, he's an even bigger evil loser than Stalker Park Memories, but at least he gets to experience all of what Disney World has to offer.

I just cannot imagine going to Disney World, only to spend all my time sitting in one spot. Casey's Corner sounds like a great place to stop and rest for a few minutes, but if I were at Magic Kingdom, I'd want to go on Space Mountain, Thunder Mountain, Haunted Mansion, Pirates of the Caribbean, and the PeopleMover. I'd go to the Swiss Family Robinson treehouse. I'd watch the shows in the Tiki Room and the Hall of Presidents.

I also can't imagine spending all that time in Disney World and never going to the other parks. Has Stalker Park Memories ever been on Spaceship Earth or the Mexico boat ride? Has she ever seen the China, Canada, or other shows in World Showcase?

Stalker Park Memories has access to so many fun attractions but never goes to them. That's a shame. If I could take her place, I'd go to everything. Then again, I'm sure that I'd probably get tired of Disney World after spending every day for a few weeks and go elsewhere. I'm sure that being familiar with every nook and cranny would take the fun out of it. Even the script for the Haunted Mansion would lose its charm once it became as familiar as the Pledge of Allegiance.

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u/jhsu802701 — 1 month ago

Why is Stalker Park Memories not banned from Disney World even though Adam the Woo was?

Adam the Woo was banned from Disney World and Universal Studios Florida for trespassing. He was later able to get the ban from Disney World lifted with legal help but never got his ban from Universal Studios lifted. Stalker Park Memories is notorious for stalking piano players but has not been banned so far.

Disney and Universal were fully justified in banning Adam the Woo, so I'm not defending him. However, he at least didn't stalk or harass cast members.

Stalker Park Memories, on the other hand, keeps stalking and harassing the piano players. Magic Kingdom cast members consider her to be the bane of their existence. Thanks to video footage on social media plus Disney World's own security camera footage, there's plenty of evidence against her. So what's stopping Disney World from banning her?

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u/jhsu802701 — 1 month ago
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How to stop the annoying livestreamers

If you see Ethan the Pervert, Stalker Park Memories, or any of the other dysfunctional loser grifters discussed here livestreaming or filming, the thing to do is loudly announce "This video is sponsored by . . .!" and make a brief sales pitch for that sponsor. That triggers the AI to automatically demonetize the video.

For Ethan the Pervert, I'd announce "This video is sponsored by Kentucky Fried Cholesterol! Kentucky Fried Cholesterol, we do clogged arteries right!"

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u/jhsu802701 — 2 months ago

What did it take to maintain the iconic Holiday Inn Great Sign?

I'm old enough to remember when Holiday Inns everywhere had the iconic Great Sign, but I was a child back then. I marveled at those beacons in the night, but I can understand why they were phased out. If you have the inside scoop, please post what it took to keep them going.

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u/jhsu802701 — 2 months ago
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"Disney Adults" Just Keep Embarrasing Themselves...

While I don't think that Ethan the Pervert or Kathleen the Piano Player Stalker is mentioned, I thought you might find this video interesting.

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u/jhsu802701 — 2 months ago

Old coaxial cable: Should I scrap it?

I've been inactive for the past several years. I have a LOT of cleaning up to do.

One of the things I need to get rid of is three old RG-213 coaxial cables with PL-259 connectors on them. They're dirty, but I think they're still usable. If the cables don't work, I'm sure that one could cut off the ends and install new PL-259 connectors. I understand that there are several other uses for old cables as well.

I put a curb alert for these cables on Craigslist, and I advertised this giveaway on the email lists of two amateur radio clubs near me. It's been about 24 hours (and the weather is nice), yet there have been no takers so far.

Is giving away these cables a lost cause? Should I give up and just take these old cables to the household hazardous waste facility for proper e-waste disposal?

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u/jhsu802701 — 2 months ago

A movie scene that reminds me of dining out on a low sodium diet

Although I was never part of the target demographic, I'm a fan of the 2004 movie A Cinderella Story, a modern day live action of Cinderella starring Hilary Duff.

There's a hilarious scene at the beginning in which Shelby (the mean-girl-on-an-unnecessary-diet character) shows up at a greasy spoon diner with her friends and asks "What can I get here that has no sugar, no carbs, and is fat-free?"

I feel like I'm Shelby (even though I'm the wrong gender and much nicer) when I go to a restaurant or a vendor at a fair and ask if there are any foods that are low in sodium. My version of her question is, "What can I get here that gives me no food coma and no persistent thirst?" While avoiding the grease bombs is easy enough, avoiding the sodium bombs is MUCH, MUCH more difficult because most restaurant foods have too much salt.

u/jhsu802701 — 2 months ago

Why do the worst automakers acquire more brands?

Has Toyota or Honda ever acquired a pre-existing vehicle brand ever? It seems to me that only the very worst automakers acquire more brands.

In 1999, Nissan was acquired by Renault and has been careening downhill ever since. Renault had left the US market in the 1980s because it couldn't even compete with Vegas, Pintos, Citations, Aspens, and other Malaise Era junk from Detroit. I'm sure that there are plenty of stories of people who bought a 1980s or 1990s Nissan that provided many years of trouble-free service and then replaced it with a much newer Nissan product that proved to be an unreliable money pit.

Jeep has a long history of being acquired by automakers with increasingly lax attitudes about quality control. I understand that Jeeps were once solid and dependable vehicles. In 1987, Jeep (previously owned by AMC) was acquired by Chrysler. Then the DaimlerChrysler Era began in 1998, which didn't pan out for either Chrysler or Daimler. In 2007, Daimler sold Chrysler to Cerberus (private equity). In 2009, Chrysler went bankrupt and was acquired by Fiat. Like Renault, Fiat had left the US market in the 1980s because it couldn't even compete with Detroit's worst Malaise Era junk. Then in 2021, Fiat merged with a French company called PSA Group, and the resulting company was called Stellantis. PSA Group consisted of several French automaker brands. One of them was Peugeot, which pulled out of the US market in 1991 because it couldn't even compete with 1980s Cadillac. That was Cadillac's worst era, because its products were burdened with a series of bad engines - the V8-6-4 engine, the diesel engine, and the HT4100 engine. All those bad engines ended up sending numerous Cadillac buyers to Lincoln, Mercedes, BMW, Infiniti, Acura, and Lexus but not Peugeot.

So why didn't Toyota or Honda acquire Jeep instead of Chrysler? Why didn't Toyota or Honda acquire Chrysler instead of Fiat? Why didn't Toyota or Honda acquire Nissan instead of Renault?

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u/jhsu802701 — 2 months ago
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Cheaper version of Mini Corsi Rosenthal box

The Comfort Zone 9-inch box fan is a great fan for a Mini Corsi Rosenthal box. It's more compact and quieter than a 20-inch box fan. While it falls short of a PC fan array when it comes to providing more airflow silently, it's easier to build a DIY air purifier based on this small box fan than a DIY air purifier based on an array of PC fans. (NOTE: The EZ Chill brand of 9-inch box fan is louder, and that's why I do not recommend buying one if you want a quieter air purifier.)

Jim Rosenthal (the "Rosenthal" part of the Corsi Rosenthal box and CEO of Tex-Air Filters) has promoted a Mini Corsi Rosenthal box based on this small box fan. His design has the fan pointing upwards, but I found it easier to build this Mini Corsi Rosenthal box with the fan pointing horizontally instead. This allows me to tuck the cardboard piece at the bottom just above the fan assembly's feet for a better fit.

Jim Rosenthal's Mini Corsi Rosenthal box is a great design, but its drawback is its reliance on 12"x12"x2" filters from Tex-Air Filters. He's generously underpricing these filters in order to encourage people to build the Mini Corsi Rosenthal box. He has even stated that most people replace the filters in Corsi Rosenthal boxes too soon even though he and his company would benefit from selling more filters. I wouldn't be surprised if he's selling these filters at cost. I expect the generous deal ($40 before shipping as of this writing) to continue as long as he's the CEO. However, I expect him to retire eventually, and that may end the generous pricing. 12"x12"x2" filters are not a common size, great economies of scale aren't involved, and there's little or no competition to hold down prices.

I have thought of a design for a longer Mini Corsi Rosenthal box that uses two 12"x20"x1" MERV 13 filters. While 12"x20"x1" filters aren't as common or as cheap as 16"x20"x1" filters, they are more common and cheaper than 12"x12" filters. As of this writing, you can buy a 2-pack of 3M Filtrete 12"x20"x1" MERV 13 filters for $44 on Amazon with FREE shipping. When you take shipping charges into account (considerably more than $4 because Tex-Air Filters lacks the unfair shipping cost advantages that Amazon has), this is actually cheaper than the four-pack of 12"x12"x2" MERV 13 filters from Tex-Air Filters.

Build the Mini Corsi Rosenthal box with the Comfort Zone 9-inch box fan pointed towards you. Use a rectangle of cardboard on the bottom resting right over the "feet" of the fan assembly. Use one 12"x20"x1" filter on the left side of your Mini Corsi Rosenthal box and use the other filter on the right side of the box. Use another rectangle of cardboard for the top section of the DIY air purifier and a square of cardboard for the back side. If there are any gaps around the fan, use pieces of cardboard to fill them in. If you wish to have a third filter, use a 14"x20"x1" MERV 13 for the top section of the DIY air purifier. (I'd rather save my money and use just the two 12"x20"x1" MERV 13 filters. Even with only the two filters, the FFSAR is a generous 7.54, compared to 5.09 for the classic four-filter Corsi Rosenthal box. So you don't have to replace the filters until they're truly filthy.)

If you prefer to point the fan upwards instead of horizontally, you can do that. With this configuration, the top portion of the air purifier consists of the fan blowing filtered air upwards. The bottom and two of the sides are cardboard, and the other two sides consist of the filters.

I've never seen this recommended, but I like to cover every cardboard piece with clear packing tape so that it will not be damaged when it's time to replace the filters. I also like to cover the cardboard along the edges and corners of the filters with clear packing tape so that I don't damage them in the event that I need to disassemble the DIY air purifier. I recommend painter's tape or gaffer's tape over duct tape, because I hate dealing with the messy residue from duct tape.

As an added bonus, you do NOT have to throw away those 12"x20"x1" MERV 13 filters when you replace them with new ones. Use those used MERV 13 filters for a 4-filter DIY version of the Brisk Box consisting of five 120 mm PC fans. Two old 12"x20"x1" MERV 13 filters and two new 20"x20"x1" MERV 13 filters form the sides of a rectangular-shaped Corsi Rosenthal box. (You should stick with the same brand of filters to ensure compatibility.) No, the fans will NOT be choked off. Even if you assume that the two smaller old filters completely choke off airflow, you still get airflow through the two new and larger air filters, and the FFSAR is still a generous 9.13.

u/jhsu802701 — 2 months ago

How common or rare is air filtration in buildings?

How common or rare is air filtration in buildings? Based on what I saw from my IKEA air quality monitor, the hotel I stayed in didn't appear to have air filtration. Or if it did have air filtration, it was too anemic for the size of the building to keep up with the wildfire smoke outside.

I was in Chicago a month ago during the very worst of the bout of wildfire smoke from Canada. It was so bad that when I took my 3M Aura (N95) mask off to take a few sips of water that morning (and that was before the very worst smoke that came later in the day), I could easily smell the stench from the smoke. My 3M Aura, on the other hand, fully protected me from the smoke. I have great confidence in the 3M Aura mask, because I know from my cheap and informal mask fit testing (sweet or bitter spray of water from a nano-mister device) that it fully protects me from the taste of both the sweetened spray AND the bitter spray.

There were a LOT fewer people out and about than had been the case when the air was cleaner. A significant minority of the people were wearing a mask outside, though I wish that everyone had worn a mask outside.

I hadn't anticipated this nasty bout of smoke, but I was still well prepared, because the same precautions for avoiding infectious airborne diseases also provide protection from smoke. (I didn't have time to be sick, and I definitely do NOT have time to deal with Long COVID.) I had brought plenty of my 3M Aura masks with me on this trip, because I never dropped the habit of wearing a mask when sharing indoor air with others. (However, I have ditched the ear loop masks. Every ear loop mask I ever wore hurt my ears and/or was prone to falling off.) The first thing I did after I checked into my hotel room several days earlier was make a beeline to a nearby Ace Hardware store to buy a Lasko 20-inch box fan and a 20"x20" furnace air filter in order to build a box fan air purifier. I made sure to run it full blast after entering my hotel room. Except when I was using my phone to talk/listen to someone, I made sure to keep my box fan air purifier running full blast.

I had brought my IKEA brand VINDSTYRKA air quality monitor on my trip to Chicago. In the days before the wildfire smoke struck, running my box fan air purifier full blast in my hotel room would lower the PM2.5 particle count from 10 to around 1 or 2 in a matter of minutes. When the wildfire smoke rolled in, the PM2.5 figure was up around 100 even though I had kept my box fan air purifier running all night long. The PM2.5 figure was in the 300s in the hallway outside my hotel room, at around 500 in the hotel lobby, and around 600 outdoors. So my trusty box fan air purifier was working hard but had difficulty keeping up with the smoke.

What do you all make of all this? Did my hotel lack an air filtration system, or was it simply too weak to keep up with the wildfire smoke making its way inside? Do most buildings out there have air filtration systems? Do most of the air filtration systems work well, or are most not effective enough for such a severe bout of wildfire smoke?

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u/jhsu802701 — 2 months ago