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I’ll give you everything I learned after 26 years in sales. I walked away at 50.

I spent most of my adult life selling boring things to boring companies. Regional operators, industrial accounts, private businesses, logistics groups, companies where nobody cared about your LinkedIn bio or your “personal brand.” My best year was a little over $1.1M. I’m retired now.

Here’s what actually mattered.

Your first real skill is not closing. It’s being normal. A lot of salespeople are strange in front of buyers. Too loud, too polished, too eager, too fake. Customers can smell neediness. The best reps I knew sounded like competent people who happened to sell something. Calm wins.

Do not treat every account the same. Some accounts deserve war. Some deserve one email and a clean exit. Young reps waste too much time trying to “nurture” people who were never going to buy. Rank accounts fast. Budget, urgency, access, pain, timing. If none of those are there, move on.

The money is usually in ugly markets. I made more selling to businesses nobody talks about than I ever would have made selling trendy stuff. Warehouses, parts, equipment, materials, regional chains, operators, family-owned companies. Less glamour, more budget.

Do not try to impress buyers with how smart you are. Make their day easier. Most buyers are buried in nonsense. Late shipments, broken vendors, angry bosses, pricing issues, internal politics. If you become the person who removes problems instead of creating more of them, you get called first.

Follow-up is not “just checking in.” Never send that email. Send a useful update, a new price, a delivery date, a cheaper alternative, a risk they should know about, or a clear next step. If you have nothing useful, wait until you do.

The best question I ever learned was: “What happens if you do nothing?” Then shut up. You will find out very quickly if there is a real deal or just a person who likes talking.

Stop trying to be liked by everyone. Being liked helps. Being trusted pays. Some of my best customers were not warm people. They did not want lunch. They did not want jokes. They wanted accuracy, no surprises, and fast answers. Give people what they value, not what your manager says “relationship selling” means.

Take pricing seriously. Discounting too fast makes you look weak. It also tells the customer your first number was fake. If you move on price, trade for something. Volume, term, faster signature, better payment, a bigger rollout, something. Never give away margin for nothing.

If procurement says you are too expensive, ask compared to what. Compared to the current vendor? A quote from last year? A number their boss made up? “Too expensive” is not information. Make them define the comparison.

Your manager is not your customer. Hit your number, keep clean notes, don’t create chaos, but do not spend your whole week trying to make your manager comfortable. The market is outside the building.

My last job was Head of GTM at a large AI company, and I’ll say this: GTM is a very promising path. Good GTM is not just sales. It is positioning, pipeline, pricing, RevOps, customer segments, expansion, and knowing where revenue gets stuck. RevOps is especially underrated. A good RevOps person can see the business better than most executives. Old-school sales still matters, but the best people now understand the whole revenue machine.

Internal reputation matters more than you think. Operations, finance, customer support, shipping, legal, credit. These people can save your deals or quietly let them die. Treat them well before you need them. Don’t only call when something is on fire.

Never lie about delivery. You can survive a high price. You can survive a tough negotiation. You can survive losing a deal. You cannot survive being the rep who says “it will be there Friday” when you know it won’t. Bad news early builds trust. Bad news late destroys it.

Keep your own notes. Know your territory better than the company does. Who owns what, who hates which vendor, who is expanding, who is cutting budget, who pays fast, who is always a nightmare. The CRM is usually a graveyard of fake activity. Your private notes are where the real business lives.

Some territories are just better. Some reps are not better than you. They inherited better accounts, better geography, better timing, or a product people already wanted. Don’t cry about it, but don’t be naive. If the territory is structurally bad, fight for a better one or leave.

Lost deals teach more than won deals, but only if you ask the real question. Did they trust someone else more? Were you late? Were you talking to the wrong person? Was there never a deal? Did you misunderstand the problem? You need the truth, even when it makes you look stupid.

Big checks are dangerous. The first time you make real money, you will want to upgrade everything. House, car, trips, restaurants, watch, whatever. Don’t. Sales income can disappear fast. Comp plans change. Territories change. Companies get acquired. Your champion leaves. A cheaper competitor shows up. Live like the money can stop, because one day it will.

The best salespeople I knew were not motivational-poster people. They were patient, observant, consistent, and hard to rattle. They knew when to push, when to disappear, when to call, and when to leave the customer alone.

At some point I realized the job was simple, not easy.

Find real problems. Get to the person who owns the problem. Tell the truth. Make the next step clear. Follow through faster than expected. Repeat for decades.

That was the whole game.

Sales gave me freedom because I treated the money like freedom, not like proof I was important. I saved aggressively, invested early, avoided debt, and never assumed the good years would last forever.

The company can replace you. The customer can replace you. The market can humble you. But the money you keep is yours.

The more money you put away, the less fear you carry. The less fear you carry, the better you sell.

Good luck.

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u/kmons63 — 8 days ago
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Looking for 2/3 GTM folks to help moderate AskGTM

Hi there,

I've started growin

We obviously enjoy but we wanted something more centered around GTM.

If someone wants to mod with us, that would be great!

Let me know your thoughts and tell me if that's something you'd want to do.

I will pretty much do first come first serve (taking 2/3 people)

Thank you!

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u/kmons63 — 8 days ago
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The subreddit for go-to-market people

This is r/AskGTM , a place for people working on go-to-market. You can ask questions, share what is working, post problems, compare notes, talk about careers, or just write the thing you cannot say on LinkedIn.

What go-to-market means

Go-to-market is the work of getting a product into the hands of the right customers and turning that into revenue. It includes who you sell to, how you reach them, what you say, how you sell, how you retain them, and how the whole system gets better over time.

It is not just outbound. It is not just sales. It is the full path from market to customer to revenue.

Founder go-to-market

For founders, go-to-market usually starts with doing the work yourself. Finding the first customers, choosing an ICP, picking a sales motion, writing the first emails, doing calls, handling demos, closing deals, and learning what people actually care about.

This is the place for questions about first customers, positioning, pricing, distribution, founder-led sales, when to hire, and how to know if a channel is working.

Sales

Sales is a big part of go-to-market. SDRs, AEs, AMs, founders, and sales leaders can talk about prospecting, cold email, cold calls, LinkedIn, sequences, discovery, qualification, MEDDIC, BANT, demos, objections, negotiation, closing, pipeline, quota, and comp.

The small details matter. A bad list kills a good email. A weak discovery call kills the demo. We will circle back usually means something else is broken.

Marketing and growth

Marketing and growth are also go-to-market. Inbound, content, SEO, demand gen, community, brand, product-led growth, ABM, paid, events, and lifecycle all belong here.

This is for the people trying to create demand, explain the product clearly, bring the right people in, and make sales easier before a call ever happens.

Data, signals, and outbound infrastructure

A lot of go-to-market comes down to knowing who to contact and when. That means segmentation, account selection, list building, scraping, verification, enrichment, buying signals, intent, funding, hiring, expansion, tech changes, job posts, and other triggers.

It also means deliverability. Domains, inboxes, warmup, sending volume, bounces, spam, reply rates, and why your emails are not landing.

RevOps and CRM

RevOps is the part behind the scenes that decides whether the team can see what is happening. CRM hygiene, routing, territories, reporting, attribution, forecasting, pipeline stages, handoffs, data quality, and dashboards all matter.

Bad ops makes good teams look confused. Good ops makes problems visible.

GTM engineering

GTM engineering is the newer technical side of go-to-market. It sits between revenue, data, tools, and code.

People here are building enrichment systems, replacing expensive tools, wiring APIs, scraping data, monitoring signals, cleaning lists, building internal tools, using AI coding agents, and testing whether AI SDRs are useful or just noisy. The role is new enough that some job posts ask for ten years of experience in something that barely existed two years ago.

Post-sale

Go-to-market does not stop when a deal closes. Onboarding, customer success, support, adoption, retention, expansion, renewals, referrals, and net revenue retention are part of the same system.

A bad-fit customer is often created before the contract is signed. Expansion often starts with selling the right thing the first time.

Partnerships and channel

Partnerships, agencies, resellers, affiliates, marketplaces, integrations, and channel deals are part of go-to-market too.

This is where people can talk about partner-sourced pipeline, rev share, co-selling, channel conflict, attribution, enablement, and whether the partnership is real or just two logos on a slide.

AI in go-to-market

AI now touches almost every part of the work. It can research accounts, write drafts, summarize calls, update notes, monitor signals, build tools, enrich data, and act like a 24/7 coworker.

It can also make teams faster at doing dumb things. Five hundred lazy sequences are still worse than fifty thoughtful ones. Deleting the CRM and telling an agent what happened each day might be the future, or it might be chaos. Worth discussing.

Careers, comp, and hiring

Go-to-market is also a career path. Breaking in, BDR to SDR to AE, moving into RevOps, becoming a GTM engineer, switching into marketing, joining an agency, getting laid off, surviving a bad market, interviewing, negotiating comp, and sharing real numbers all belong here.

Post the wins too. First deal, biggest deal, first commission check, new job, better title, clean dashboard, fixed deliverability, first customer, whatever.

Post here

Ask what you are stuck on. Share what worked. Share what failed. Post the messy version.

Use the closest flair so the right people find it: Founder GTM, Sales, Marketing/Growth, RevOps, GTM Engineering, Post-Sale, Partnerships, AI, Careers, Comp, Hiring, or Beginner.

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u/I_AM_HYLIAN — 8 days ago