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What does supporting SW mean?

A baby bat here! I wanted to ask about the supporting S€x work but being a feminist... I know that alot of goth clothes (fishnets, chokers, harnesses etc.) are taken from the SW industry. I also know that goths are feminists.

Here is the thing... I have seen alot discussions on the internet talking about "real feminism" is being against SW because it's making women look like objects or consent seem like something that can be just bought easily.

But if goth claims to be feminist but supports SW how does that work? (yes i know the clothes and some music is based on sw). Sometimes i see people saying stuff like "support the worker but hate the industry." But then also some people say that you "cant support the worker without supporting the industry because its the workers that form the industry." This stuff is really messing with my head and i dont know what my opinion is..

If women are seen as objects it doesnt fix the patriarchy and misogyny feminism is fighting against. But also feminism is about women being able to choose what they want to do.

Can i call myself goth if i "accept" SW. Not being against it but not exactly "supporting" it. I care for the safety in the industry but hate the picture it gibes of women?

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u/kusinekatti — 6 hours ago

How big of a role to haircuts and styles have in the fashion part of the subculture?

Feeling my way thru the music side of the subculture rn, but also doing general research on both the music and fashion. Goth and gothic hairstyles from what I've seen aren't my cup of tea and I'm curious how big of a part they have. Are they a make or break or will clothing and make up be enough?

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u/Searching_Bread2000S — 9 hours ago

Exploring subculture and styles

I am finally in full control of how I look and what I wear. Recently, the goth subculture has been drawing me in, and I'm considering going goth. I love the music, and have the majority of the values of the subculture.

However, I'm in a bit of a conundrum: I really like floral decor, or I'm at least trying it out, but I also love gothic styles, music, and beliefs. Would I be a poser if I went goth? Am I even allowed to if I like floral and whimsy decor? Ik whimsigoth isn't a real thing - at least according to a bunch of comments on a reddit post I saw about it.

Is there another branch of alt that might fit more? I'm super new to all of this, having been in military orgs for half a decade with no choice on what to wear or how to style myself. Tysm for opinions and advice!

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u/Important_Piece1124 — 11 hours ago

baby bat here, need tips

hihii im a baby bat!! i just got into the goth subculture about 4 months ago, and ive kinda gotten no help anywhere. I asked a lot around on tiktok, since there are a lot of goths, but i mostly got hated on and called a "poser" (or larp, whatever that means). i want to ACTUALLY get into the music, but surprisingly, google doesnt actually give me goth bands?? (like literally i searched up "gothic rock bands" and got lil peep..) i know a bit about the history, but i would love to learn more. (im also really big into literature, so if you guys know any gothic literature books that would be awesome).

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u/pomnipanics — 17 hours ago

Is dressing goth most important?

I was talking with my friend recently (he's not goth) he said that clothing is the most important in being goth. I thought that music and politics are more important but now I decided to ask what do you think. :D

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u/Bubbly-Salamander-26 — 14 hours ago

Why do people have a problem with alternative people?

I was at the bus stop in my local town, all of the sudden there was a group of 8 boys around age 20 appeared at the bus stop too.
I am a 17 year old female and I was with my boyfriend who is also 17.
I was wearing a bathory band t shirt which has an inverted pentagram at the back of the shirt with camo trousers. ( my boyfriend was wearing a black hoodie and black joggers ).
First they started woofing and making dog sounds, then they started calling me a satinist.
I didn’t do anything I had my back to them the whole time they were saying stuff.

Why do people do this to people? And where did it come from? I’m so confused as me and my boyfriend were just chilling at the bus stop with our backs towards them.

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u/UwU_lola9 — 1 day ago

Can yall suggest me some Darkwave it can be both old and new bands and or artists but please I don’t want them to sound soulless?

I personally am a big fan of Lebanon Hanover, Harsh Symmetry / Onnihell, Linea Aspera, DECEITS, Topographies, Forever Grey, Soft Vein, Haunt Me. Just to name a few.

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u/Hot_Assistant_6067 — 1 day ago

goth youtuber who would start videos with “hello darklings”

I need help recalling an early goth youtuber (female, in her 20s, american) who would start all her videos with “hello darklings!”. I remember watching her videos in middle school when I was first getting into goth, probably around 2010? She would make like 10 minute videos talking about goth music, her experience in the scene, ranting about people, etc. I still say “hello darklings” pretty often in reference of her but no one knows who i’m talking about. thanks x

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u/BoltThrowup — 2 days ago

Do I have to support s-work to be goth?

Hey so I am already part of the alternative community but recently I have been getting more into the goth music genre and fashion(btw I also know that you must be into left-wing politics as well; don't worry lol), so I have been considering joining the goth community. Recently, I found out that the goth community has a lot of connections to s-work and that many goths support s-workers. However, I personally don't feel that I can support the s-work industry or individuals that choose to be in the s-work industry themselves since I personally believe that s-work allows men or big platforms like OF to have easy control over women while making money off of them. I feel that s-work can easily degrade an individual hence that is why I do not support it, but I do of course support those that are forced into it because of s-trafficking. So in order to join the community, do I have to entirely support the s-industry and s-work??? Also please correct me if any of the info I have stated is wrong.

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u/SmokeDefiant2033 — 3 days ago

Where to find spooky bling?

First post haha, I've been in the scene for the past two years now and I've been slowly updating my look for a more spooky/gothic aesthetic. However I've purchased rings to go with my look that have breaked easily and have left my fingers with a very ugly green look after wearing them for a few hours. Do any of you guys know where I can find some good quality rings and necklaces that don't break as easily?

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u/SpeakerPlastic6371 — 4 days ago

Film/series nominations with a gothic aesthetic

Setting aside the classic movies like Dracula, Nosferatu, Interview with the Vampire, and Underworld...

Can anyone recommend movies or series with a gothic aesthetic or a gothic character that not many people know about?

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u/EquipmentHelpful7730 — 4 days ago

Music recs?

Looking to get into some new bands and keep expanding my taste! I’m getting bored of listening to the same stuff on my playlists a hundred times over lately 😅

I love anything in the gothic genre, love a bit of doom metal too, and I prefer the older stuff honestly — a lot of modern style music is awesome, don’t get me wrong, but doesn’t hit the same for me, personally.

I like heavier/darker music, not into the pop-punk side of things at all, so if you got any super dark/spooky/abstract recs don’t hesitate to mention them!

Would love to hear what you’re into! 🖤

EDIT: Edit bc I think I didn’t explain myself very well lol — I know pop-punk isn’t goth at all, just when I’ve asked ppl for recs before, I’ve gotten a lot of suggestions that are just ‘vaguely moody sounding pop music’… and by heavy, I don’t mean brutal or anything, I more meant that I love slower or atmospheric stuff too.

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u/SpookyCastle0506 — 4 days ago

how to make fellow goth/alt friends…?

Hi! I really hope this is an okay place to post question! I don’t really use reddit so… forgive me if this isn’t really the right forum!

I guess I’m just wondering… How have other goths & alternative people here made friends and found community?

I live in a very rural area of the UK and despite being in my twenties and desperate for friends… I struggle to make any at all.

I don’t really know of any local alt clubs or events or how I’d even find out they exist! And then… how to make conversation — and the most important part, keeping it going!

Any advice for how to find community, make friends, and help it stick? What worked for you? How have people here found community?

Sincerely,

A very lonely lil’ goth :(

EDIT: I genuinely don’t know of any clubs etc. within an hour of where I live and have no idea how to find them if they exist — plus club etc. are very difficult environments for me anyway because I’m autistic,,

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u/SpookyCastle0506 — 5 days ago

too scared to wear trad goth makeup

hello fellow bats!! so as the title says I'm scared or even "ashamed" of wearing trad goth makeup outside mainly for one reason : my teeth look SO yellow in contrast with white foundation. Yes I know most goths' theeth look like this, but is there any way I can make them appear less yellow? :') thank-you so much!!

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u/billieoconell — 5 days ago
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Has this happened to any other goths? (Kicked out of mall because of goth makeup)

I was walking through the mall with my boyfriend (he’s not goth) and my mom, minding my own busines when I got stopped by a mall security guard. He said that my makeup “wasn’t allowed in the mall.” He then proceeded to follow us all throughout the mall, staring me down when we were trying to exit. I don’t see the issue with my makeup, I had even received several complements about it while in the mall. Since when was it ”not allowed” to express yourself?
Also just made a TikTok on my TikTok account @sarahbeth133 if yall could all like and repost it!

u/BatHot8489 — 8 days ago

How good of an introduction are these 5 playlists to the music?

I remembered a series of videos, that really sparked my interest in goth music, they're basically grab bags of various music from various artists/bands. I came here to see what the elderbats think. Are these a good introduction or do they mix the subgeneres too much to be a clear introduction?

u/Searching_Bread2000S — 4 days ago

What draws you to goth fashion?

I know not all goths care about this part but I’m particularly focused on the fashion aspect of it if you DO dress goth.

For those of you who have adopted a goth style, I’m really interested in hearing people’s personal reasons for choosing to do so.

Reposting because the original didn’t go as planned.

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u/Ok_Cherry_9221 — 6 days ago

Oddly specific music request: looking for goth music that feels like walking through a freezing cold forest at night

Sort of like a nature-y vibe if that makes sense

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u/bh447 — 6 days ago

What subculture is the total opposite of goth?

What subcultures exist that you would consider to be the inverse of goth? If nothing comes to mind how do you imagine that to be?

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u/Worried_Button_2881 — 7 days ago