r/Gamingunjerk

If the amount of people complaining online about this right now, had actually bought physical discs this generation, we wouldn't be here.

Feels like just a bunch of virtue signaling from people that mainly bought digital games, while claiming they love physical media lol

I'm seeing posts from friends of mine in these groups, who I know for a fact have been buying ONLY digital games for this generation, claiming they're abandoning Playstation now

Truth is, people weren't buying physical discs in any meaningful numbers, so they are stopping making them. It sucks. But it's understandable.

So instead of clinging to the past of physical game discs, I'm focusing on pushing and calling for legislation to strengthen and update consumer protection laws for digital purhases.

That's what I'll be focusing on now.

Sadly, Physical Discs aren't coming back. Because not nearly enough people buy them. So now, let's focus on making sure that when we DO buy digital, we get DRM-free forever versions and not just purchasing a license to play the game.

The future is all digital. It is what is it. That doesn't mean we can't be pushing for better consumer protections and rights for our digital purchases.

StopKillingGames is a good starting point but not nearly enough. The Anti-Competetive class-action lawsuits against Sony right now are also good starts. The one in the UK for 2 Billion looks promisimg.

But this goes beyond Games. It's digital books, movies, shows, comics, music, audio books etc.

We need to keep pushing for more rights and better digital consumer protection practices from ALL companies, Sony included. That only happens through lawsuits and legislation from congress though.

Every gamer has at least one opinion that most people disagree with.

Maybe you think:
🎮 Older games are better than most modern releases.
💰 Cosmetic microtransactions are fine if they support the game.
🏆 Skill-based matchmaking makes games less fun.
🤝 A great community is more important than great graphics.
🕹️ Indie games are more creative than AAA titles.

Or maybe it's something completely different.

What's your gaming hot take? Let's keep it respectful and have some fun with it.

If a company like Nintendo or PlayStation can sell me a game. I should own said game. Until that unfortunate opposite is corrected. Let me advertise piracy too everyone. I don’t support nor do I condone the piracy of games. DONT STEAL. But if you buy a game it’s yours. And if the company doesn’t say it’s yours then hypothetically steal it. Hypothetically fuck them. Hypothetically they’re scum. Hypothetically fucking rip that shit. Hypothetically make those stupid assholes actually earn their money. Rather than them, hypothetically letting us have a game WE paid for

Note: please be civil and don't go calling people names or anything. I just wanted to make this thread given my own feelings on certain games despite my own left leaning beliefs.

I'll start by saying back in 2013, I never really cared for the tomb raider reboot trilogy and still don't to this day despite rolling my eyes at all the chud outrage over lara's new redesign. There's a lot to be said about how she looked back then, but even now, I still don't understand all the backlash when there's bigger reasons not to like it that actually make sense. For example, I liked that in the og series' lore, lara was an adrenaline junkie who got into the treasure seeking game at her own accord instead of following another person's legacy.

In the reboot, it felt more like her legacy was interconnected with her father's and less on her need to seek out what the world has to offer in terms of excitement. It inadvertently made her motivations and reasoning feel less feminist more regressive despite it's attempt to dial back the games allegedly sexist aspects (even though for the og it was in the advertisements, not the game itself though I can get that take when it came to LAU lara) of the older games. It just left me less and less disinterested the more I unpacked these games until I just gave up on the franchise after that.

But what makes me feel weird is all the newer fans who loved it, lean left like me, and even derided the older games for obvious personal reasons masquerading as just wanting the franchise to be less centered on the male gaze. But, at the same time, why did the people behind the reboot feel the need to make lara less like an agent that did shit and more of a passive object in the first game where didn't even like tombs? I get it's for character development since a lot of characters had arcs where they came around something they disliked. But in this instance, it just felt like that one scene in the dmc reboot where nu-dante got a white wig stuck on his head and just sweep it off as a jab at people loved the older version of that character. That's not endearing, that feels insulting to so many people?

Anyway, I got a bit carried away with my little rant lol. But I hope this doesn't make it sound like I hate reboot lara because she's not hot. That was never my issue and though I don't like the trend of making games more and more realistic at the cost of whimsy, at least the new unified lara is rerailing back aspects I liked from the older games, so I'm looking forward to that.

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Hot take, why are people taking this so seriously? Like, I get the value of collecting something tangible but we live in a world where quick dopamine bursts and moving from one interesting thing to another is mainstream. Gone are the days where we keep playing a single game over multiple years. We complete single player games within 1 week to 1 month. After which, we move onto the next shiny thing. Live service games pump out new content with a 3-4 week cycle. This trend is everywhere, even beyond gaming. And for all of this, digital purchases makes things cheaper and efficient.

We had the GTA VI and now Sony news and both received backlash for reasons I can’t quite understand. For me, I can’t even remember the last time I went back and reinstalled a game I played a while ago. It’s always one new thing after another and keep the excitement moving.

Remember that out of context quote from the Ubisoft guy? He said that subscriptions will become mainstream when players become comfortable not owning games. I think that time is almost here. Most people don’t give a shit about owning. It’s have good fun for a period and then find the next fun.

Steam Machine sold out in a day. People already buying phones for almost $1K-2K every year on financed plans. Multiple sold listings of Pre-Orders for GTA VI on Ebay. It's just hard for me to believe that $1000 consoles are going to be some final straw for gamers at large.

I think the only time I remember seeing a true adverse reaction to sticker shock that resulted in a meaningful and true price cut was with the 3DS getting slashed from $250 to like $180.

I'm not trying to be some anti-treaterlite or anti-consumer guy because I know at the base level we all do just love games, but it does feel like the worst people just get to exploit the masses at large yet again and after seeing SKG starting to fall apart, the most I or a lot of people can do is just yap and cling to old games/platforms.

it's more just something i enjoy as a hobby. i'm really more than happy to just play simple shit these days. guy with ball, guy with gun, guy with car, guy with sword and magical powers, guy with cape. it's not as deep as it once was for me. when i see people shitting their undies over number values and ethics i just zone out.

leaderboards, boss fights, action packed cutscenes, junk food. it's all i need to be satisfied.

I thought it was interesting to see this kind of phenomenon happen to a woman centered gacha game. I'd seen a few Video Essays about this kind of harassment of developers by a disgruntled base for a bunch of Gacha games in South Korea mostly by Men and very biasedly thought this was something only guys would participate in. I have seen in other places that a lot of the complaints from the game's Chinese Base were that the character looked "gay," was too "dark-skinned" and was made to appeal to a "Western Audience," pejoratively. It doesn't sound very different from a lot of what grifters say about a variety of games, series and characters that are produced in the "West."

On one hand I think it's somewhat cool to see that these problematic behaviors are not exclusive to just men, grifters and their bases in the West. On the other hand I do wonder if this just shows how problematic something in our society has become where gambling for virtual personal interactions are sweeping up so many players. I do play Pokemon Pocket and have played Yu-Gi-Oh! Duel Links in the past but these kinds of gacha games and what they cause people to do IRL seem really different. I also do laugh at how I see all the characters in this deepspace game and think all the characters including the new guy look very same-y but then again I guess it shows the difference between Male and Female gaze focused designs.

Been playing since ps1 and I think they have finally lost me. Their first party line up has been complete shit this gen. Priced out of modern gaming in general,will just play retro and indies from here on out. The ray tracing and fake frames can't bring back the dead franchises they killed to fund all the live service aids nobody wants.Besides that all their first party stuff outside of astro bot has turned into oscar bait,personally I blame the last of us.

Apologies in advance for the ramblings, I just need to get it out. Feel free to skip or skim this, as I didn't intend the text to get this huge.

I'm not sure anyone else talked about this, but imagine gaming is indeed a luxury hobby with PS6 and Xbox Helix for the long term foreseeable future. Like its whole 7 years cycle starting November 2027 or at least like the first 5 years until the prices finally drop and normal people who aren't enthusiasts or rich are able to get them. All this time, and Sony and Xbox have to keep supporting PS5 and Xbox Series. Both because they have to in order to sell the games to its larger install base, and because we've hit the graphics ceiling and it'll be a long time before someone makes a PS6 game that can't be ported to PS5.

I wonder how the trailers for every new game will be. Assuming most everything you see will be cross gen and only a few niche first party games will be next-gen exclusive on each console in their early years.

And I can't begin to imagine how awkward the next year State of Play that has the official PS6 announcement presentation will be. Like one straight hour of "Here is our brand new game, experience it even more immersion and all the new gimmicks in in PS6." Fine print at the end of the trailer says it's also coming for PS5, or they just announce it as cross-gen later in PS Blog. Not all that different for how the original PS5 announcement presentation went. But at least that one had actual impressive next-gen console exclusives.

Returnal. Rift Apart. Demon's Souls. A bunch of cool third parties like Pragmata (which we didn't know but was comedically still so far away it took the whole generation to release, though it has been worth the wait), Deathloop and Ghostwire Tokyo, as well as a bunch of next gen exclusive live services that were doomed to fail like Destruction Allstars and Godfall.

That presentation had substance. It had had disappointments, sure, cause back then people were still very against cross-gens and Sony was dancing around it, making sure barely any game trailers disclosed their games were cross gen. But it still held a lot of wonder and promise for the next generation, with the few games that were truly next gen exclusive and even the ones that weren't.

I have no idea what the hell they're gonna be able to show next year that will possibly get anyone excited for the PS6 as an exclusive premium next-gen experience. Or if they're gonna show more than one such game. The one studio they had that could make a tech demo so incredible that their game would undoubtedly be next-gen exclusive, was fucking shut down after Sony intentionally sabotaged and set it up to fail by sending them to the live service mines and rejecting their remake and remaster pitches this whole generation, instead of just giving them something real to do. That's right, Bluepoint Games. Worst moment of this PlayStation generation by far.

Then there's Team Asobi. It might very well be that they're cooking up a next-gen Astro Bot as we speak, even if it's not really a full fledged experience and more a short free pre-installed game like Astro's Playroom was. But Astrobot's graphics are heavily stilized and relatively simple. Specially if it's a full fledged game like Astro Bot 2024, what level of mechanic and map complexity are they even gonna show to justify the game being a PS6 exclusive and not being ported to PS5 while locking out the millions of potential buyers that loved and showed up for the previous game? Even if it's a PS6 exclusive meant to show off all the new gimmicks and how it can run now at like 4K 120 fps with AI upscaling and framegen or some bullshit, there's gonna be a lot of controversy and discourse about why this couldn't just come to PS5 as well, where more than just a few thousand people would play it.

Media Molecule's been silent this whole decade. Maybe they're cooking up a triumphant return for Dreams or even LittleBigPlanet 4? But that would still leave a heavily sour taste on everyone's mouths if it can't run on PS5, unless they show something like the PS2 to PS3 level of evolution and complexity we had with things like the first LittleBigPlanet. It's very unlikely, but we'll have to wait and see.

To make things worse, if Sony doesn't quit their plans for PS6 Portable and instead goes ahead and mandates developers to work on parity for every PS6 game to run on the portable device using lower power settings, then pretty much EVERY PS6 game ever made is guaranteed to be back-porteable to PS5, adding to the controversy when the number of next gen exclusives starts rising and people keep complaining about being left out. Or it'd be another big point of discussions in case we barely see next gen exclusives at all and most of the PS6 library indeed gets released to PS5 as well.

And that's just the beginning. Imagine for 5 years in most State of Plays they try their hardest to hype up new game announcements without disclosing they're also coming to PS5, because they want that massive install base's money from all the millions of users in the ecosystem that will stay priced out of PS6 for the long-term. I wonder if at some point they'll just give up pretenses and announce the games for both consoles up-front, with no shame or stigma, perhaps even showing parts of the gameplay on PS5 and parts on the next-gen edition. Would like to see that normalized some day. But until then, I think it's gonna be a rough bunch of years. And more than rough, its gonna be very awkward if most of the install base indeed just skips next gen.

The prices for all three consoles have risen every 9 months or so. The steam machine has a higher price and worse specs than a launch ps5 or xbox series x etc. Could see the next gen consoles having payment plans like phones or a mortgage. Outside of 2d indies I am priced out of modern gaming.

With exclusive content paywalled at twenty dollars. No disc and, as of yet, not a moment of gameplay revealed to the public. (EDIT: I said in the original post body that IGN was shilling the ultimate edition. An extremely polite and probably very cool irl redditor pointed out my mistake, I've since edited it out). My personal opinion is that the game is probably going to be very good, though I wonder who exactly will be able to run it anyhow. The screenshots and footage I've seen seem a little generous, maybe even optimistic to that end when I compare them to the various whisperings I've heard that the game is targeting 40 fps on premium gen consoles, 30 for the rest of us. PC performance will (I'm guessing) be a little more flexible, fingers crossed, but I'll say for my part that 30-40 fps is a clean, hard deal breaker for even a twenty dollar game. Still, we've no confirmation yet and anyways it's become a tradition for developers, especially AAA developers, to be somewhere between coy to straight up dishonest about performance figures. I don't expect that to change here. Rockstars last few games, to my memory, have each launched targeting 30 fps on console. None of them for eighty dollars, mind you. What about this game could possibly be worth that much money? Are we good with a digital (only) download that costs a weeks worth of food?

I don’t know what it will take, but don’t the people that scream “woke” at games like God of War Laufey or Intergalactic or The Last of Us, don’t they realize that Epstein wanted you to be angry all the time and vote for Trump knowing he wasn’t ever going to change artistic expression to what YOU want? Another thing, the non-grifters that scream woke? What exactly is your goal? You want from EA and Activision to be forced to only make video games like Stellar Blade or BMX XXX or Uncharted to be lead by Nathan Drake for the rest of your lives, despite the fact that isn’t financially feasible because cutting out minorities and women as customers means they leave money on the table? It’s profitable to sell video games to everyone and the 1st Amendment forbids the government from forcing artists to make certain art. In the end, all you’ve done is made your standard of living objectively worse and even if you didn’t, all you’ve done is shorten your life by having high cortisol because you can’t force game developers to listen to YOUR whims when they are not profitable.

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