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Subwoofer Mode Question KC92
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Subwoofer Mode Question KC92

Have the sub paired with XIO, question is about the sub, not the XIO, so mods don’t freak out please.

Question is, on the back of the sub, should I be putting it in room or corner mode? I know it’s close to a corner but technically not IN a corner, thank you for help in advance! Room is small, 10x11.

Thanks!

u/Revolutionary_Ad9604 — 5 hours ago
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Kef Connect

What is the general consensus on the Kef app from users.

People with Kef speakers can complain about unstable connection issues.

There’s also talk about devices being bricked when updating.

Then people suggest having to restart their speakers to get them just to connect and play on a daily basis.

Are these statements true, or has Kef resolved them with stable updates ?

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u/H00dedcrow — 15 hours ago
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LS60 owners with cats… How are you keeping those drivers alive?!

We’ve got a pair of KEF LS60s and absolutely love them so far! Everything’s great, except our cats have apparently decided the Uni-Q drivers are the coolest damn things in the house. So, fellow cat + LS60 owners, what do you guys actually do? Cover the drivers whenever you’re not listening? Put the speakers on some kind of raised base? Train the cats to stay the hell away and just hope for the best? Right now I’m using the ugly cardboard covers that came in the box whenever we’re not listening. Looks goofy as hell, but hey, it works! I’ve got some nice suede covers coming, so hopefully that’ll be the long-term fix. Other ideas? Curious what you guys have figured out, especially with the LS60 since those drivers are basically sitting there completely naked and asking for trouble.

P.S. One of our family friends suggested declawing the cats. We now have one fewer family friend.

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u/NISMO1968 — 16 hours ago
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What amplifier would you recommend for my KEF 104/2?

Hi, everyone!

A few years ago, I bought a pair of KEF 104/2 speakers, which I’ve been using ever since with a relatively low-quality amplifier. I recently started thinking that it might be worth investing in a higher-quality amplifier, so I began doing some research.

First, I thought about what type of amplifier would best suit my listening habits. I listen to music exclusively from my laptop and phone, mainly using Tidal, so initially I thought that a Class D all-in-one amplifier with integrated streaming platforms would probably be the ideal solution for me.

However, I’ve also read on various forums that all-in-one streaming amplifiers may not be the most future-proof option, since software platforms and streaming services can eventually lose support. If I separate the streaming functionality from the amplifier, I might be able to get better amplification for the same money, while also having a system that could potentially remain useful for several decades.

I’ve also come across the common opinion that some traditional Class A/AB amplifiers can sound richer or more lively than modern Class D designs. I realize this is a somewhat subjective topic, though, and I’d be very interested in hearing the opinions of people who have actually used different amplifiers with the 104/2.

The logical alternative, therefore, seems to be buying a good traditional amplifier and pairing it with a separate streamer (e.g. a WiiM Mini or WiiM Pro). This would also mean that if the streaming technology becomes obsolete in 10 years, I could simply replace the inexpensive streamer rather than having to replace the amplifier.

Genre-wise, I mostly listen to alternative rock, but I also like grunge, nu metal, jazz, trip hop and dubstep.

My amplifier options so far:

• WiiM Amp Ultra / Eversolo Play

These would obviously be the options if I wanted to save money, but there are surprisingly good reviews and reports of great value for money, especially for the WiiM, on various forums.

In the country where I live, the WiiM would cost around €475, while the Eversolo Play is around €600.

With the WiiM, I might be able to minimize my concerns about longevity, since it’s relatively inexpensive and it wouldn’t be as painful to replace if its software became obsolete in 10 years.

One major drawback for me is the lack of AirPlay 2. I’m wondering whether AirPlay 2 is likely to be more future-proof than proprietary streaming integrations such as Tidal Connect.

• Cambridge Audio Evo 75

Honestly, physically, this is the one I like the most. It’s simply a beautiful piece of equipment. I know that with an amplifier you should focus on the sound rather than the appearance, but my heart still leans toward this one.

I’ve read a lot of positive reviews about its sound as well. My main concern is whether it makes sense as a long-term investment if, say, Tidal—or even AirPlay 2—were no longer supported in 10 years.

On the other hand, many people say that the Evo 75 is still an excellent amplifier even without its streaming functionality.

I recently found a used unit for €1,000 in my location, with a warranty valid until 2030. From what I’ve seen, this seems like a particularly good price.

• Audiolab 7000A / Cambridge Audio CXA81 Mk II / Rotel S14

These are some of the other models I’ve come across in a similar price range.

With the Audiolab and Cambridge, I could simply add a separate streamer. The Rotel S14 already has streaming functionality, so it raises some of the same long-term questions as the Evo 75.

As a relative newcomer to hi-fi, I honestly don’t know which of these would be the best match for the KEF 104/2, so I’d really appreciate some advice.

I’m also open to other alternatives in this price range.

I’ve read in many places that 40-year-old used amplifiers in this price range can offer significantly better sound quality than modern equipment at the same price. However, this would be completely new territory for me.

My main concern with a 40-year-old amplifier is reliability. How much longer can I realistically expect it to last? Do they generally require restoration or replacement of aging components? Since I don’t understand the electronics inside an amplifier and wouldn’t be able to repair one myself, buying a vintage amplifier would feel considerably riskier to me.

So, while sound quality is obviously very important, my main priority is long-term reliability and getting something I can keep for many years or even decades.

I’d also like something that allows me to connect my laptop or phone quickly and easily without having to deal with complicated setups.

What would you recommend for my KEF 104/2 and my needs?

Would you go for:

  • a modern all-in-one such as the Evo 75,
  • a cheaper all-in-one such as the WiiM Amp Ultra,
  • a traditional integrated amplifier + separate streamer,
  • or a good vintage amplifier?

And if you would choose a traditional or vintage amplifier, which models would you recommend looking for?

My budget is €1,000, and my listening room is quite small, so I don't need a huge amount of power.

Thanks in advance for your answers!

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u/Most_Selection7519 — 2 days ago
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KEF Kube 10 MIE or KEF Kube 12 MIE

Hi all, I am very new to being an audiophile and an amateur when it comes to the knowledge of sound.. I currently own KEF LSX II Active Wireless Bookshelf Speakers and I am in need of a subwoofer!

I have my speakers located in my bedroom which is fairly a decent sized bedroom having fitted a king size bed and still lots of leg room in the room. Only purpose saying this is to give you an idea of the space, size of the room.

I would love to know if it's worth getting the 10 MIE or the 12 MIE.

Thanks so much:)

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u/ObjectiveNo6436 — 2 days ago
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Svs micro 3000 revolution or KC62 paired with ls50 II?

Title says it all, I’ve finally purchased ls50 wireless IIs with S2 stands, and want to pair them with a sub since our space is quite roomy. After a lot of reading my main options seem to be the above mentioned.

I opted for blue stands and sand shell speakers.

Anyone here with experiences with one of them or both paired with these speakers? Please do share!

Any other mentions or options are ofcourse very welcome.

With regards!

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u/mcdth — 3 days ago
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Can the LS LUXE be used as desk speakers?

Right now I have some LSX II LT as desk speakers and they are ok. I was wondering if the new LUXE could be used as desk speakers?

My desk is 30 inches deep and 72 inches wide. If that’s not deep enough I was also planning on getting the stands for them and placing them behind the desk for more distance.

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u/get_top_on_thephone — 4 days ago
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Helps in the position of the subwoofers

Hello friends. I'm upgrading from klipsch's Rp line to KEF's R meta line.

Towers: R7 meta

Central: R6 meta

Surround: R8 meta

Atmos: ci200rr-thx

Subs: 2x kc92

Processor: av20 (marantz)

Amplifier for the R meta: amp30(marantz)

Amplifier for the 4 atmos: 7055(marantz)

Totaling 5.2.4

My biggest question is; as the kc92 has two 9" doors, what would be the most correct installation for them in my living room? Since the only space I have is between the rack and the wall. But would the speakers face the watcher or side to rack/wall?

Living room with 5.20m x 4.70 m and height of 2.40 m

Acoustic slatted panel on all walls and ceiling with polyester wool + a 5cm layer behind the polyester wool panel. I know that even so the acoustics are not enough to absorb the frequencies of the subs.

The other doubt would be, I know that my living room is not 100% ideal because of the sofa leaning against the back wall. But would there be anything additional acoustic to be done? To better absorb the low frequencies that the subwoofers will emit.

Note: photos still with klipsh system. KEF on the way.

u/Agitated_End_4050 — 5 days ago
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Room 1 Metas?

I see everyone always posts about acoustic panels (non-Meta). I wonder why not use Metamaterial Absorption Technology room treatment that has a highly complex maze-like structure that absorbs 99% of the unwanted noise? Seems like this should be a no-brainer and would save so much on space.

u/bigsink22 — 6 days ago
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KEF LS50 Meta vs R3 Meta

Hi all,

For some reason, in my country the R3 Meta is being sold at the same price as the LS50 Meta. I've been using the LS50 Meta for a long time at my computer and love it. I wonder if I should get R3 Meta for my living room? Is there any significant changes?

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u/AstorWinston — 5 days ago
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Thinking of selling my LS60s + 2 KC62s for Reference 1 + KC92

Thinking of selling my LS60s with 2 KC62 subs for the Reference 1 plus KC92
I recently was able to hear these speakers at my local hi-fi shop and was completely blown away. While I love the speakers I have now, these are on a whole different level.
Here’s my question. Does it make more sense to keep the 2 KC62 subs that I have now to pair with the Reference 1s, or should I sell them and just get one KC92 sub?
I’ve attached pictures of my living room. With that said, I will be adding curtains over the windows and some sound panels to make the room more acoustically treated.
Just looking for feedback from current owners. Is it better to have one bigger sub or two smaller ones like I have now? Yes, I know my TV is too high, but the wall has an issue. Please don’t comment with TvToohigh. Lastly, if I go the Reference 1 route, I will buy a Mcintosh 7200 amp to pair with it. I have wanted this amp for years.

u/Freddylikesnangs2024 — 6 days ago
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Ok I’m in a bit of a spiral around which amp to get, please help me out 🙏

So I’ve decided the KEF LS50 Metas are going to be my passive speaker of choice and I will be eventually matching a sub to it (likely a SVS sb 1000 pro or KEF kc62 if I can source one second hand) but the amp is really throwing me. My budget isn’t huge maybe 1500aud max but I want to get good quality with a more warm approach to its sound signature.

My 3 choices I’ve been circling around are:

- Cambridge Audio CXA81
- Rotel A12/14 mk2
- WiiM amp Ultra

The CXA81 interests me for its pleasing sound, The Rotel seems like I’d be able to push it easily and keep a solid sound stage and the WiiM has tonnes of bells and whistles and smart room compensation etc.

The Rotel A14 is the only one above my budget but could maaaybe afford it if was genuinely worth it. My heart says the CA my head says the WiiM.

Would love some feedback on all this please.

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u/roydogaroo — 6 days ago
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Rubber pads with R3 Meta and S3 stands & R6 Meta pad placement

Do I use the rubber pads that came with the R3 Meta speakers with the S3 stands?

The R6 is quite large so where should I stick the 4 rubber pads? At the corners? What's optimal?

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u/Rusted_Metal — 5 days ago
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Baton: KEF Connect done right

I love my LS60 & KC62. The KEF Connect app – not so much. So I made my own: Baton. :-)

In a nutshell:

Scenes

Radio stations, playlists, volume/source settings – basically anything involving your KEFs in one click. User configurable, iCloud-synced. All scenes can call webhooks for on/off + URL after executing (Home Cinema wakes the Apple TV, sets the KEFs to HDMI/Vol48 and opens the iOS remote control screen.

Now Playing

Full featured Now Playing screen, with scrubber, audio format, metadata, track controls and the hero of the app: a fine-grained, haptic volume control. As KEF cut all metadata strings to 63 chars max (thanks!), I enrich the metadata with Spotify's fuller set and built in some logic detecting classical movements. Track name, artists and album are all hyperlinked to the Spotify app. Shows on you Lock Screen (and thus your watch) with art, metadata and track controls.

Browse

Full browsing tree (Radio, logged in streaming services, uPNP servers) directly from your KEFs. Favorites for Radio, usable in Scenes.

Speaker

Quick Access to Sources, EQ profiles and Volume Presets. Full EQ editor, with sync for new profiles. Full speaker settings.

App Settings

Create your own scenes, set presets, etc.

Anyways – just testing the waters here. If there's any interest, I can look into releasing (must strip a few personal customizations, but nothing too complicated). I deliberately stayed away from onboarding, streaming service authentication and firmware update – that's in KEFs ballpark. EQ profiles live in KEFs cloud, but Baton can read, change, store, create and sync them. For music while working, I created a menu bar panel app for macOS to match. One click = full control. :-)

Missing links? Ideas? Fire away!

u/giraf-giraf — 6 days ago
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Opinions on subwoofer for small apartment

I currently use a set of KEF q1 metas in my small apartment living room. I am seeking a subwoofer to extend the lower end range of my system for a fuller sound. The caveat is I need the absolute smallest footprint possible leading me to the Kanto sub6.

I do not need wall shaking bass but I do want a subwoofer that is musical and can be fast and responsive while providing a moderate thump for bass heavy genres like hip hop or edm.

The question is, would the kanto sub6 be a worthwhile upgrade for my scenario or am I better off without a subwoofer due to my constraints. Thanks in advance and feel free to offer any alternative solutions if you’d like :)

u/dditrichs25 — 8 days ago
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KEF reference model 2 - issue with Volume

Hey guys, I’ve bought my first proper setup and finished setting it up yesterday. I’m new to the audiophile world, so I’d appreciate your opinion.
**Setup:**
Speakers: Two KEF Reference Model 2s (old, but still capable)
Amp: Yamaha AX-750
Streaming: Apple AirPort Express
I’m quite happy with the sound overall, but I feel like the volume could be higher, especially when playing music from Spotify. I usually listen to Techno and dub on SoundCloud, and some tracks sound amazing and can’t go higher than 60% as the walls are already shaking. But when I listen to other genres on Spotify, I sometimes have to nearly double the volume to get the same listening level.
For some tracks, I have to turn the amp up to around 80%, and even then it’s not particularly loud. At 80%, I’d say it’s just at a comfortable level for normal listening.
Is this normal, or could there be something wrong with my setup? Could it simply be that some recordings are mastered at a much lower level?
Also, is there a good way to test whether the highs and mids are working properly?
One thing to mention: the input selector has an issue. Sometimes it creates noise or one speaker cuts out, but it goes away when I touch/move the knob. Could this issue somehow affect the output power of the amp, or is it unrelated?

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u/Amhod — 6 days ago
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KEF C35 Speakers sound muffled/clogged

hey there! I got these speakers from a friend who didnt need them anymore. I connected them to my Pioneer A209R amp, listening to CD/Vinyl. The sound of the tracks on the C35? Muffled, a bit clogged.

The speakers look almost in perfect condition. I havent opened them up yet, but from outside it looks like they've been kept clean and take care after.

any idea what might cause the issue? I tried different positions, farther away from the wall etc - Ive browsed this subreddit for similar issues. I also double checked the phases.

u/joka58 — 7 days ago
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KEF R3 metas for a large room - enought or look for a floorstanding solution?

Hi fellow KEF enthusiasts,

got a chance too get some R3 metas (used) at a descent price, and since I am moving to another place in the near future this maybe a good time to start a new system from the ground up.

Firstly, the room is a large open space (living, dining, kitchen), and with big floor to ceiling windows. Furnishing will be minimalistic, hard subphases, a rug only in the living area, with some sort of minimal curtains. Not ideal, so maybe some acoustic panels on the TV wall, maybe some on the wall opposing the main glass area, but that’s about it. I know I will not get a perfect result, but good enough is fine, since aesthetics is prioritized over sound precision here.

Are the R3 metas good enough for a space like this or do I need to look at some more powerful floor standers in that price range?

The idea is to get a par of R3m's, then a single (maybe dual) sub, and lastly some in ceiling rears + a center channel. So basically 2.0 to 2.2 to a 5.2 system. Stereo listening is a priority (70%) and movies come in 2nd (30%).

The layout is attached. Th measurement is metric fyi.

u/PixelRaumCo — 8 days ago