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Which Brazilian Portuguese phrase fooled you when you translated it word for word?

Imagine walking into a shop in Brazil and approaching the counter. The attendant looks up and says:

>Pois não?

If the word you recognise is não, you might think you've been turned down before you've even asked for anything.

Here, the attendant is inviting you to speak. Think How can I help you? You might hear it after getting someone's attention with Com licença, or when they notice you waiting. It's a polite way to acknowledge you and give you the floor.

Now you've chosen a present and want it gift-wrapped:

>You: Pode embrulhar para presente?
>
>Shop assistant: Pois não!

Your question means Can you gift-wrap it? The answer means Of course or Certainly. This time, pois não accepts a request that has already been made.

The first use opens the conversation; the second agrees to help. Neither is a refusal. The expression works as a whole, and its place in the conversation helps you interpret it.

Another one I like is imagina. You thank someone for helping you:

>You: Obrigado pela ajuda!
>
>Other person: Imagina!

Translated word for word, their answer is Imagine! Here, it does the work of Don't mention it or No problem, gently treating the favour as something you don't need to thank them for.

Is there a Brazilian Portuguese expression that caught you out like this? What did you initially think it meant, and what was happening when you heard it?

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u/RioandLearn — 9 days ago

When does “-inho” stop being cute?

You tell a joke. Someone laughs and says Você é engraçado. You're funny. Great.

Now imagine the joke has gone on a little too long. They look at you and say Tá engraçadinho hoje, né?

Suddenly, the only thing getting smaller might be their patience.

Depending on the delivery, that second sentence can sound closer to Oh, so you're a comedian now? And engraçadinho has a familiar use for someone whose attempts to be funny are becoming annoying or inappropriate.

You often meet -inho and -zinho through small or affectionate things: casinha, filhinho, cafezinho. In everyday Brazilian Portuguese, these endings also help express the speaker's attitude.

Take bonitinho. An enthusiastic Que bonitinho! can be a warm compliment. But show someone an outfit you're excited about, and a hesitant É... bonitinho may feel like the smallest compliment they could manage. The word itself hasn't become an insult; the hesitation and the situation change how it lands.

Or consider quietinho. O bebê tá quietinho can be an affectionate observation about a peaceful baby. A firm Fica quietinho aí can be an instruction to stay very quiet, with considerably less affection involved.

The diminutive can add warmth, soften a judgment, intensify a description or give it a sarcastic edge. The tone of voice, the rest of the sentence and the relationship between the speakers all help you work out which.

Have you ever heard a word ending in -inho or -zinho used in a way you didn’t expect? What was the situation?

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u/RioandLearn — 8 days ago

Do you think the way I’m learning is ok

I’ve only been practicing like four days but what I am doing is I’m trying to learn most of the basic words first and piecing together sentences with those and once I learn most words THEN I’ll start learning like the grammar or which version of a word I use in which context or whether I’m supposed to use a or o or está or estar and stuff like that. Do you think this is a ok way to learn. I’m already immediately recognizing some words like instantly and able to at least piece together a bit of the context from like Portuguese posts and stuff and I’m already repeating like phrases in my mind and sometimes seeing something and asking myself “what is this in Portuguese” and stuff. I’ve memorized/nearly memorized around 50 words now. I was inspired to learn it cuz my Brazilian friend learned English all by their self and I want to learn it in case I go to Brazil someday and cuz they’re just so cool friend like I look up to them

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u/_-_-_-_-Rain-_-_-_-_ — 8 days ago
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Makes you fluent made me realize how different Portuguese sounds in actual conversations

I am from Naperville, but my family is from Lisbon, so I get over there every now and then. I have been spending more time with Portuguese lately, and one thing that keeps catching me out is how different it can sound when people are actually talking compared with what I hear in lessons or see written down.

I can read something slowly and understand it just fine, then hear someone say basically the same thing and suddenly I am trying to figure out where half the sounds went 😂

It is especially noticeable when people are talking quickly. Words run together, sounds get softer, and things that look really straightforward on paper can sound completely different when someone says them naturally.

I have started paying more attention to that, rather than assuming I just need to learn more words.

If you are from Portugal, what are some things about everyday pronunciation that you took for granted but seem to throw learners off? I am especially interested in the little things you hear all the time but rarely see explained.

 

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u/ExcitementStill3447 — 11 days ago