r/QAnonCasualties

Hi all, just like the title says. Met a girl and everything was perfect in the beginning. It was then revealed to me that she was a flat earther - should have been my first sign. A couple weeks in, I met her family and this was when everything changed; her mom was a batshit crazy lunatic screaming about the virus hoax and ivermectin. She thought Ivermectin cured everything, up to and including cancer and MS, Parkinson's, ALS, etc. Trump was sent by Jesus Christ and was carrying out His word. She also said she was depressed for years and had been prescribed medicines for depression and bipolar disease (she should have listened.) Within the first few minutes, she was telling me about the parasites and tapeworms she had been pooping out. She would take the horse paste, put it on rolled up pieces of bread, and eat it. My GF and her younger sister played right into it, brainwashed by the mom sadly. Planets weren't real, Antarctica was the land of hidden secrets, the ice wall - etc etc.

I had just been diagnosed with Type 2 Diabetes and that was another issue, since my GF and her nut family didn't believe in medicine (all doctors were evil liars). She wanted to home birth our kids if we had them, home school them, and deworm them. It finally came to a point where I couldn't take it, as I couldn't help but think she would give this crap to my kids or her mom would sneak it in their food (or mine, I was always hesitant to eat at their house).

There was also a strong religious affiliation with all of this too, as they were born again Christians. I have no problem with religion (I was raised Catholic but now I am mostly just indifferent), but these people were extreme. There was even a time that she was upset with me for drinking Liquid Death water as it expressed clear love for the devil on the packaging /s.

The moon landing was fake, outer space wasn't real, nor were the planets or moon (even the ones you could see with the naked eye) and they were all under a dome as described in the Bible (the firmament). All of these things in hindsight are insane and enough to make anyone crazy, but I really cared about her and wanted to ignore all of it, but in the end, I just couldn't.

Not sure if this is even in the right place or appropriate for this sub, I just needed to surround myself with likeminded individuals and vent a little bit. Luckily, it was only 6 months and we obviously don't have kids, so it shouldn't take long to heal and get over the breakup, the last 6 months have just been a whirlwind. I do have some extreme guilt I am dealing with for ending it - I feel really bad for my ex GF because I fear she will never lead a normal life as long as the mom is there in her ear, but I know it cannot be my burden. I am just a softie and can't help but feeling bad for her, even if she doesn't see anything wrong with any of it.

Thanks for reading, sending love to everyone!

It’s like I blinked one day and half the world was suddenly insane. I know it’s all the propaganda and agendized media they consume that’s driving this, but I thought most people were smarter than to fall for it. Maybe it’s less about intelligence and more a lack of self reflection and honesty, I don‘t know.

I won’t bother with the nonsensical, contradicting beliefs these people hold, you probably already have heard them all. It’s not worth arguing with their beliefs and giving their rhetoric legitimacy, these crazy people just need to be de-propagandized.

Too many people have some overly strong, rabid opinion about things they know almost nothing about. If you actually know well the subject they’re talking about and inform them, at best they’ll go “Oh, well I didn’t know that,” then NOT change their views at all. ?????

Watching the World Cup with my roomate. Neither of us watch soccer but he makes it clear every match who he is cheering for.

Sweden over France.
Netherlands over Morocco.
Germany over Paraguay.
Canada over South Africa.
England over Panama.
Croatia over Ghana.

He ain’t slick. I am glad that we don’t talk about politics much anymore but I find it notable that the white supremacy comes through in other parts of life.

I've known my friend since high school and we stayed close into our mid 30s. When she first started dating the man who's now her husband, I remember telling her she could do better. He had no ambition, always saw himself as the victim, and constantly complained that everyone else had it easier than him. He hasn’t changed at all in the three years since then.

Months ago, I had been seeing some disturbing things he had been posting on social media. I reached out to ask her about it and she said she I should call him to discuss his views because she thought we would agree on some points. His posts included wanting an all white society, saying Jews should be exiled, the Jews deserved the Holocaust but also the Holocaust didn’t happen/wasn’t as bad as people say, and other antisemitic and white supremacist nonsense content daily. Then she tried to tell me she didn't think he actually believed what he was posting (it was 8-12 posts daily!)

I told her there was nothing to discuss. I couldn't be friends with someone who defended that kind of hate, so I blocked her and haven't spoken to her since.

There were other things as well like regularly leaving their infant with people they'd only known for a couple of weeks or at the daycare at churches they’ve never been to before. I realized she had become someone I didn't recognize anymore.

I still miss the friend I grew up with, but I don't miss the person she became. Has anyone else lost a longtime friend because they chose to stand by someone with extremist beliefs instead of walking away?

Hi everyone,

I hope it is okay I post this here as it is not only specific to Q. I have been lurking this sub for a while as so many of your experiences resonate (and my heart goes out to you all).

I'm basically at the end with my long term partner who is not full Q, but believes so many of the same things I see posted about here. They seem to be the most fixated on the covid vaccine. I can't take it any more because I just don't respect these beliefs. I think they have been brainwashed by these conspiracy theories.

I am wondering if anyone has any educational resources they could recommend that could be helpful in changing anti-vaxxers minds? I find that anti-vaxxers are so skeptical of anything that isn't coming from their specific sources and so I am trying to find something really foolproof and undeniable. This is my last desperate attempt at holding on because I don't want to spend my life with an anti-vaxxer. Also to clarify I am specifically looking for information related to the covid vaccine as they insist it's quote "not a real vaccine" so any science about other vaccines wouldn't help.

I have seen many helpful resources in here for similar things and so I thought this would be a good place to ask (and also vent a little). Thank you in advanced! <3

Hi all, I don’t know how I didn’t know this group existed. Not sure what the vibe is but all I ask is to please please be kind, i’m feeling extremely delicate (big ask online I know!).

I have been with my partner 6 years, when we met he wasn’t into politics at all, I have always been left leaning but again not so clued up. As time has gone by the last year or 2 he has slowly become sucked into far right online propaganda, I call it propaganda because that’s what it is.

We are in the UK btw. He started off by supporting Reform, but now has swayed towards Restore. I hate these parties and what they believe. I feel so heartbroken that I might have lost my partner who I love very much. I cant voice anything to him without it becoming a huge debate.

Not sure what I want from you guys, just wanted to post about it because i’m feeling so alone and sad. I want him to see this is all social media propaganda, and that there is a way he will change back. I do respect peoples views but I can’t EVER support the hate that these parties spew out. Has anyone had anyone see the light and realise?

As I say please be kind I’m feeling at breaking point and not sure what to do.

I have in my life a gal I dated, for a brief amount of time, just over a decade ago. Back then, she was real new-age, not aligned with any political party. She was an anti-vaxxer but not completely nuts talking about nanobots and cell phone towers, etc. She had some kooky lawsuit she kept talking about filing over a piece of property she didn't own.

I don't know why, but every once in a while I will send her a legal article or case in the news, as a way of just saying hello and being friendly. It took a bad turn recently.

In the intervening years, she went from someone skeptical of politicians (healthy in my book) to a Trump-worshipping MAGA nut who believes ALL of the lame conspiracy theories which circulate in Trumpworld. Even the ones which contradict the other ones. It's crazy. (Edit: We're talking COvID 19 crap like nanobots in the vaccine, 5g towers, magnetic humans, Obama behind everything that happens, great re-set, Klaus Schwab babble, multiple theories about trans kids, you name it).

Well, I sent her an article about a case involving a foreclosure on a property in Michigan, and a recent SCOTUS decision on the matter, as she knew some foreclosure litigants back in the day. She responded with some garbage about "Obama' being behind all the bad stuff that happensd way back when. I questioned it. I made the comment that before saying something like that she should have some back up, that people like me don't like wild unsupported claims, and many others don't like them either. I think what set her off is my statement that being a Trumper can be bad for her credibility.

She sent me a berserk email saying I should respect her opinion. By disagreeing with her attempt to blame everything on Obama I was being, I guess, disrespectful. She had some convoluted reasoning about how she had won a court case back in 2012, which means I should always agree with her opinions because that would be respecting her intelligence.

I wrote back and while I won't belabor it further, basically told her she isn't making any sense, that I don't agree with her, that I don't owe her agreement, and that I would not be speaking with her further.

These people are nuts and exhausting.

for background:
-she has been diagnosed with bipolar disorder and is convinced she doesnt have it
-she has obsessive tendencies
-she has recently become a born again christian (we were raised as very normal catholics and she left the church, but then came back full force more into evangelical style christian)
-before this, she was falling for tiktok mental health stuff that was basically like “oh if you breathe, you have autism and trauma”

less than a year ago, my sister proclaimed that she was visited by st john for her misdeeds and became christian. now she has fallen deep down a rabbit hole and lost all her friends due to her telling them that they’re demonic and they need to be saved. every evil thing happening in the world now is because people are completing demonic rituals and sacrifice.

she posts about 20-30 things on instagram each day, with things getting more unhinged each week. yesterday, she posted a guy who solely does conspiracy theories talking about how covid was a test for the government to see if people would take the mark of the beast.

she’s falling fast, and i’m not sure how much longer she’s going to have before she loses all sense of critical thinking. is there any way i could possibly get through to her? i’m desperate, i miss my big sister and i’m worried about her daughter

A recent post got me thinking. Of all the hardcore MAGA folk I know, none of them are mentally healthy people.

K - K is a disabled man. He is bipolar, often goes off his meds. Divorced, estranged from a kid. Gets a check from the fed govt for his disability. Does side businesses which he never reports. Super Trumper, bigoted, homophobic, transphobic despite having a trans kid.

P - P is a man who is in his late 50s who is still, every single year, entering his first year of employment as a school teacher with a new school district. No school will ever ask him back for a second year. Is lazy. Flunked out of law school. Has mental issues.

S - S is a woman who is narcissistic. Settled a lawsuit, then blew all the money because she won't get a job. Thinks she is a guru. Makes a crappy living pretending to be a guru. Her daughter is unstable. She tries to practice law without a license. She files frivolous lawsuits. She is constantly angry. She thinks she is a legal genius. She is an anti-vax nut job and argues online about it with everyone. Has no medical background, yet purports to have diagnosed her own son with autism and tells everyone about her autistic son.

Does anyone know any MAGA folk who are mentally and emotionally healthy, and who aren't getting a government check for disability? I don't know of any.

My husband is an amazing man and a fabulous father to our two children. He was raised fairly conservative by a father who still managed to teach him acceptance, empathy, and kindness. His dad was his hero growing up and into his adulthood. However, his dad has completely fallen down the MAGA rabbit hole and ended up disowning him last year when my husband called him out on a Facebook post celebrating mass murder. His dad now refuses to acknowledge him or our children. My husband gave me permission to post this on his behalf and is looking for validation and consolation. Can anyone share similar experiences so I can show him he's not alone? Thank you so much.

My mother has been, for years, falling down a rabbit hole of radicalization through content she consumes including AI chatbots- that act as an echo-chamber confirming her delusion- and her social media algorithm that keeps her in the same loop of erroneous information. 

This has gone so far as to make her think that paying for courses and paying a pseudo-scientist for a procedure will supposedly cure her cancer- instead of going through treatment, because she is sure that this is the only right way, and her ‘doctor’ confirms her belief that people in the hospital are working against her and her beliefs. 

I’m sorry if this doesn’t make sense, I am just watching her fall apart and deteriorate more and more every day because of her delusion. She’s going to this ‘quantum-medicine’ "doctor" who told her that all the test results she got from the hospital are not real, and they were instead falsified and other people’s data was put in them instead of hers. My mom believes the “great world order” has some deeper motive in getting her to do chemo, like trying to kill her, treatment is free where I live but she still thinks they are trying to get something out of her, even if she can’t explain what it is.

I don’t know man, it’s really hard talking to her at all. I took an appointment with her oncologist on the side, no one knows I did, and I asked what the consequences of her choice were since her prognosis was extremely good - she was told that while she is in stage 3, it is still totally curable and they only need to do 5 sessions of chemo and radiation with it, but my mom didn’t believe her - and she has chosen not to do it. The doctor said the symptoms will be very visible and annoying, with inflammation, coughing blood and a strange smell and fluids probably appearing when it gets worse.

Well… all of those have appeared now, 2 months after the doctor suggested treatment and my mom chose otherwise, and she keeps saying she’s okay, but her face is now getting deformed and it’s hard to be in her presence. She doesn’t even want to talk about it to keep appearances with my grandparents.

I’m sorry if this was the wrong place, but I’m extremely logical, and this whole thing is hard because I can’t even spend time with her without it turning into an argument and I’m now wondering if I’m horrible for not wanting to accompany her through this decision she’s making or the process that she’s choosing.

I’m 20 and transfeminine in a conservative family that’s been fully down the Q rabbit hole for years now. There’s not much I can really say that’s special about my parents in particular. They believe in the typical “vaccines cause cancer and autism” and “great reset” or whatever. Needless to say they don’t accept me. They think my generation has been indoctrinated by the education system to be more accepting of queerness and that trans people didn’t exist till like 2015 or something.

I guess I’m just trying to accept that I don’t really have an emotionally safe place. I think I’ll never really feel safe or at home. Alone-ness is the only thing I could ever really count on. I’m trying so hard to discover and accept myself but it’s so hard when my family has only ever shown me scorn and hatred. I don’t love myself cause I don’t know how to love myself. I don’t think I’d even recognize love if it was right in front of me.

Anyway just feeling really alone and scared. Every time I have to visit or stay with my family they make me doubt everything about myself and my self worth. Just wishing there was love in my family instead of vaccines, 5G, the deep state, central banking, and fucking Bill Gates mosquitoes or whatever. :c

I think it’s Q-adjacent at least, but yesterday he was mumbling about whatever and asked me “You know what group of people were least affected by Covid (When he asked me this I thought this would be a racist tangent) Nicotine users. Yeah, it’s crazy. I was learning about it today. The nicotine attacks the spike protein or whatever” and starts going on about how good his health is. He said “it actually made us immune.”

He is very strongly anti vax, which makes it hard to talk about anything related to health. Luckily he was vaccinated when he was young and his parents aren’t at all on his level. I just don’t understand it because I vividly remember we caught covid sometime in 2020 and were all sick for days. He got it very badly once where he couldn’t eat or move for three days, and I believe he lost 10 pounds(?)

I swear I could hear the shake in his voice when he talked about it so confidently. He said something about, “And it makes us lose our appetite, but they need their money.”

He also doesn’t believe in sunscreen anymore because it’s “bad for you.”

Trump recently posted something on X with a Q about Quantum and then signed EO's about Quantum.

Phil Godlewski (big grifter/podcaster in the Qult community) has been really propping up an investment opportunity for ATQM in the crypto investment world that is related to Quantum computers and now with Trump's latest post about Q and the EO's he signed about Quantum this crowd is getting PUMPED THE F* UP.

I didn't look into it much but some people I know have decided to invest quite a bit in this because IT'S ALL ABOUT TO GO DOWN THIS TIME FOR REAL apparently...

I don't know, I just hope that I don't see people I know get scammed by these kinds of predators...AGAIN.

Anyone else see this kind of excitement from those they know?

I had bought the book over a year ago. I had never been able to make it past the first 30 pages. Since then, I have been NC except for her spamming me and me replying with a non-aggressive message, or her trying to get ahold of my through family group messages. I’m not sure if maybe now since I know the damage is done that I was able to read it.

For those that have read it, did you find and of the info helpful? Are there other books you’d recommend?

My boyfriend has bought the book and has started reading it so he can understand everything better. Since he wasn’t having to live it he doesn’t know a lot of the underlying things or meanings. Does anyone have advice on how to guide my boyfriend if he has more questions?

Title. I feel very lonely and depressed around the anniversaries of me being disowned. It's such a fucking stupid and ridiculous reason to be removed from your parents' lives. Who gets disowned for getting fucking vaccinated? It wasn't even for COVID in my case, it was for vaccines mandatory for college. It's incredibly isolating, difficult to try and explain to other people whenever they come up. Not sure what I'm asking, to be honest. It just helps to get support and to hear I wasn't the only person this happened to.

I'm 55. My brother is 48. I haven't spoken to my brother other than a few texts regarding our elderly parents since 2016.

I sent my dad a digital frame for Father's Day where his kids, grandkids, and great grandkids could post photos to the frame for my dad and mom to see on the frame in their home. My mom is now essentially homebound because she's on oxygen 24/7 and doesn't want to use the portal tank.

I invited my brother via text to add photos to the frame for our dad and mom. I figured it was the nice thing to do because the gift wasn't for me, it was for my dad. My brother, who remind you is 48 years old, immediately starts posting photos to the frame of him with a AI trump in the photos. Seriously?! Why?

Do I now post photos of us at Pride Parades and Bad Bunny concerts? I was mindful not to post photos that would cause discord but obviously not my brother.

I posted my story last night but deleted it earlier, as it felt too specific and named the specific sovcit group my spouse has basically been captured by.

One thing I mentioned was that spouse believes their debts are payable by using some kind of chequebook. But things are escalating so quickly that there's an update even a few hours later. Chequebook arrived in the post and, today, spouse has started sending the cheques to creditors. They genuinely believe it will work b/c someone in a WhatsApp group they're in sent a screenshot of a loan or credit card balance at £0.00. I only saw it quickly - this was in passing and our child was in the room - but it looked like a screenshot from a banking app, which of course, you can't do. Pointing this out would have had no effect anyway, as many of you will appreciate.

Spouse wants to use these cheques for utility bills - someone else in the group has and it's worked, apparently. I've objected, but the response was, "Just put them all in my name only". Obviously, I'm never going to do that -- purely because that would feel cruel on my part. I would have to really hate someone to do that, but this is my spouse. We have a young child, a mortgage, a joint bank account. (To make things worse, my sis-in-law and her partner pay a third of what we do for their gas and electric - but that's b/c they got so heavily in debt to the supplier (victims of the energy crisis a few years back) that they negotiated a settlement to pay a small amount for the rest of their lives. We haven't discussed it yet, but I know that if I refuse to sign over or stop paying our supplier, that's going to be the backup: "They do it and still get gas and electric".

I feel in an impossible situation and questioning my sanity - am I really some kind of conservative, small-minded, brainwashed sycophant for "the system" because I want to keep on top of our utility bills, even though I agree they're absurdly high? I don't think I'm even looking for advice because I know what my options are. I just need to type it all out in a place where it might find a sympathetic response. If any knows of any specifically UK-based supportive forums, etc. would love to know.

TW: transphobia

So I’m a cis woman and I’m 33 so I know what I’m doing. No trying to talk me out of this please I faced it so much.

So I have stage four endometriosis and adenomyosis. I’m getting a hysterectomy, I’ve been in pain for so long and no one would give me my hysterectomy around here in my red state Bible Belt. Because I might change my mind about having kids.

When I told them every woman in my family also has endometriosis and I don’t want to pass it on. My family doctor recommended me to her obyn who’s open minded.

And the obyn agreed to give me my surgery, and I’m so happy I’m finally getting it. My family and friends knows how much pain I am in all the time, and I told them my hysterectomy is finally planned.

Well some of my family who are into the deep Q shit are currently no contact with me because of it. Also because one uncle said that getting a hysterectomy is the same as a sex change.

I don’t wanna speak to them if they view it anyway, and it must be a Q thing because my co-worker asked me if I was trans too because I’m getting a hysterectomy. It just blows my mind.

I don't want to be writing this, but I've pretty much no one else to talk to about it. I'm a UK male. Married 10 years - together much longer. We both work, have a house w/mortgage and a beautiful child we both dote on.

It's the usual trajectory in these things, I think: my wife, from Covid onwards, has become more and more conspiracy-minded and anti-"the system". Some stuff we agree on, some we disagree on, and that's fine; I think it's actually helped my critical thinking skills. Although I've also sat through a lot of diatribes just letting it go. But what outsiders don't get is that for the most part, life is just normal. We eat healthy food, watch TV, do the garden, go out for breakfast sometimes. It's not like she's in a full-time cult or "weird". She's a loving, intelligent, empathetic human and a fantastic mother.

Anyway, we're basically both in debt. Child, cost of living, etc. For me, I'm self-employed and went through a really rough 18 months a couple of years back. I've structured it with a loan and one credit card. It's not a brilliant situation, but manageable.

My wife became involved in an MLM company a few years back, going into debt to affiliate. The product they sold was/is genuinely useful, and she learned a lot of useful stuff about social media marketing, etc., and the atmosphere was positive - a bit evangelical sometimes, but positive.

But sadly, like a lot of MLM affiliates, she's made a lot less than she put in, and then, for various reasons, became disillusioned, and decided to "pause" the business.

Tbh, when she did, it was like having the old her back a little. She also sat down, put a number to her debt, and I offered to help her start getting it sorted. For a week or two, we were the closest we'd been for a while.

But then she started talking about someone she knew, through the MLM, who had paid her debts off with a chequebook...

Fast forward to now, and I believe she's full-on fallen down the Freeman on the Land rabbit-hole. As those of you who've gone through this will prob know, it's hard to tie down because the goalposts keep shifting. One minute, she can wipe all her debt with zero consequences. Then there will be consequences, but not forever. Then it's stuff about how to deal with debt collectors at the door.

More unnervingly, and this is what's prompting me to write, even though I feel like I'm going behind her back, is that she's talking about using this chequebook to pay our utility bills and talking about how we don't have to pay council tax. The one time I told her I didn't think it would work ended up in a big row - she took it as a personal attack. The general justification is "F*ck the system. I'm not asking for permission to live. I'm sick of being a 'good citizen' by society's standards." Etc. etc.

Yesterday, it came out that she's considering leaving the MLM and is "interested" in the Sovereign Project. I've looked them up and get such a dodgy vibe - quite dark at times. She also mentioned that she's had a parking fine and is ignoring it deliberately.

I know the chequebook has arrived, and earlier, she was asking where our CT bill was to get the barcode off it (I don't know why exactly, and our kid was there, so I didn't want to get into it).

To make things worse, at the same time, she's also being pursued wrongly by some chancers over a small old bill she has no memory of not paying and that must be at least 14 years old. That one she can and should legitimately fight, but she's going no-engagement, and I know that's going to embolden the other stuff.

I just don't know how to proceed. I've worked my way back up to an excellent credit score. We have a joint mortgage and a joint account. If she wants to try this stuff with her personal debt, I can't stop her -- but I'm concerned it will end with some company claiming equity in our house. Also, if she starts refusing to pay her half of our joint outgoings, or trying to use the cheques, we can't just agree to disagree. I don't want to live a life of dodging debt collectors, etc. I don't want my child growing up in that environment. At least when it was all about abundance and "money mindset" the idea was to earn loads so bills weren't an issue. This is totally inverse to that, and I don't know what to do.

Has anyone gone through this and survived -- got through to their spouse? I know these things tend to lead to "leave them" replies, but I don't want to leave. This is my home. I don't want to be apart from my daughter. I don't want to split up with my wife. What's more, I've got nowhere to go and no savings.