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1-2 Sets to failure/close to failure double progression/linear progression (trying to understand programming)

I notice that a lot of bodybuilders are using low-volume approaches (1–2 hard sets) with simple double progression or linear progression. Why don't more powerlifters or powerbuilders use something similar? I know beginner programs often do, but once you get to intermediate or advanced levels, it seems like programming becomes much more complicated with higher volume and moderate-to-low intensity (percentages deloads etc..).

Why not keep it simple with low-to-moderate volume and high intensity?

For example:

  • Squat: 2×5 or 3×5. If you get 5 reps on every set, increase the weight by 2.5 kg next week. Personally, I don't think double progression (like 5–9 reps) makes much sense on barbell squats because they're so fatiguing. I'd rather just progress the weight once I hit all my sets for 5.
  • Deadlift: 1×5 only. Progress weekly with small weight increases.
  • Bench and OHP: Either double progression or linear progression seems to work well.

My thinking is that if fatigue and volume are managed properly, why would someone stall? If someone stalls on a moderate- or low-volume, high-intensity program, wouldn't the first things to look at be recovery (sleep, diet, stress), too much accessory volume, or simply needing more rest days?

So my main question is: Is high volume really worth it for strength, or is it mostly necessary for some people because they can't tolerate high intensity as well?

I'd love to hear from people with coaching or powerlifting experience, because I'm trying to understand the reasoning behind more complex, higher-volume programming.

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u/M4STERX — 1 day ago

Substitute for OHP?

I read the wiki and FAQ, so I understand that if I swap an exercise, I’m not doing true 5x5.

That said, my gym space has a low ceiling. Too low for me to fully extend my arms up and over my head.

Until I can find a better place, are there any exercises I could safely substitute for the overhead press?

Thanks!

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u/Kilted-Brewer — 3 days ago

lower back injury - recovery method?

Hurt my lower back. Was getting into a rental car and out of nowhere, a sharp pain started there. Went to physio, recovered in a few days. Had excess back muscle stiffness. Thought I was OK to deadlift this AM and without warning, a sharp pain came from my lower back. Physiotherapist said I haven't been stretching enough and the stiffness has put excessive stress on my back muscles when i lift, and my sitting for 10h+ at desk each day also further fatigue my lower back and hamstrings.

This also happened to me just 2 months ago, and once in 2025, when I recovered 5 days later in each case... stronger than before eventually! but now my back is hurt once again. Seems to be reoccurring.

So, I cant do any exercises involving back for 2 weeks, and then was told to start again at 10lbs, adding +5lbs each time, and must religiously stretch back and hamstrings 3 times a day everyday. Is this the best way to recover? What do fellow lifters here do after hurting back ?

I normally DL 345lb, squat 260, overhead press 135, chin-up 90, bent over row 230. So I am wondering if larger intervals would be more appropriate in my case.

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u/writetowinwin — 2 days ago

Am I missing something

I’ve been back on the program from what can only be described as a lazy lifestyle for many years, post Covid kicked my backside for a long time, finally got back in the gym a month ago. Been regular 3x a week, gradually adding each session across lifts, I do a lower body stretch after for about 10-15 mins. Other than that I haven’t added anything accessory wise yet.

I can’t seem to get my OHP past bar, I know this one is slow and also tops out the lowest, but my form always breaks the last two sets. I tried to add 2.5kg and form broke a few times. Thought best to sit on the bar until I can fix it.

Wondering if I need to add should accessories? Nutrition wise I’m getting the protein in for sure and maybe a mild caloric surplus. I struggle with sleep though

Age | 32
Gender | m
Current Weight | 80KG
How long in the program | 1 month
Squat | bar -> 60kg
Bench Press | Bar -> 35KG
Back Row | Bar -> 35KG
Over Head Press | Bar
Deadlift | Bar -> 80KG
Notes: | Did the program a decade ago whilst at uni and loved it, dropped 10kg of fat back then!

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u/Capable_Pea1023 — 5 days ago

Help me fix my low back pain due to squatting.

Update 1: consensus seems to be to little bracing and bracing technique. I'm going to work on that with lower weight and find some excersises to help me practice proper bracing.

Update 2: several people mentioned wearing a belt might help for cues, will also try this out. My assumption was that this was only necessary when doing heavier weight.

Tldr; read all text for proper context;-) Video shows a set from the side and then one from the back. I deliberately waited a bit longer at the bottom then normal for clarity.

I have never had low back pain in my life before starting 5x5. The pain is where my pelvis bone meets my lower back both sides next to my spine (called the Iliac Crest). No pain in my spine itself or the SI joint.

It's not regular sourness. If I want the pain to be fully gone I have to rest at least 5 days after squatting...

I have been doing 5x5 since December last year. Had to stop for 2 months due to severe

ankle sprain, not related to 5x5.

In the first period of my 5x5 journey I already had low back pain problems with my squat, but it thought it was normal. I also had a hipshift which is improved very well by now. I cut back on weight multiple times, build up again, cut back again... But the pain kept compounding since my low back never fully recovered.

Once I had to stop due too my ankle sprain, it took almost 2 weeks for my low back pain to be entirely gone. Then I knew it wasn't normal.

When I got back to the program 5 weeks ago I started with an empty bar again. But when I progressed the pain started coming back and started compounding again after every workout. Now I'm back at square 1.

So I'm clearly doing something wrong, albeit form or weak muscles or both, but I really don't know. I can't continue like this because that will screw my back long term, but I also don't want to give up. I really like the program.

In the video you can see a slight butwink maybe, and a slight anterior arch. Or should I bent over more, or move up in a different way? Am I going to deep?

I feel the weight isn't the main problem, at least not for my legs and glutes. But maybe it is for my core. So I'll be cutting back again to 30kg. But when is it safe to move up again, I really don't know.

Also as a side note, the pain after deadlift days is even worse. I cut them out the last 2 weeks to see if it wasn't just the deadlifts. It's definitely my squat causing the pain. But probably my deadlift form needs fixing to.

Thanks I'm advance!

|Age|37|

|:-|:-|

|Gender|M|

|Current Weight|81kg,178,5lbs|

|How long in the program|7 months (with a 2 month break due to ankle injury from another activity|

|Squat|40kg,88lbs|

|Bench Press|55kg,121.5lbs|

|Back Row|50kg,110lbs|

|Over Head Press|30kg,77lbs|

|Deadlift|85,187.5lbs|

|Notes: | before my 2 month hiatus the weights were (in order): 57.5kg, 60kg, 60kg, 35kg, 97.5 kg|

u/mr_jorn — 6 days ago

Jumping between 5x5 and Hypertrophy

I've done 5x5 for years and overall enjoy the structure of the program. A few months ago I switched to do more hypertrophy training (3 sets of 10). The dynamic changed, the breaks are shorter and I overall don't feel stronger. The motivation was 1) to not plateau purely in 5x5 based training and 2) more muscle.

But overall I feel like it's not really worth it.

Has anyone else cycled between the two programs? Or do you all stick with 5x5 until you get bored?

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u/howtheydoingit — 6 days ago

240kg (528lbs) Squats

Another week, more squats. Depth better than I thought. Final set of the day and pretty pleased to see its not that far off despite maybe being a bit beyond me just now.

u/TGracie3 — 6 days ago

I built a better 5x5 tracker. No subscription, no account, free Stronglifts import.

Hey lifters! I built a 5x5 tracker for iOS. Bit of background – I came back to 5x5 last fall, and like many of you, found out the app is a $59/yr subscription. No shade on the Stronglifts app, but I didn't want an expensive subscription just to log set and reps. I'm a developer, so I built my own tracker for myself, and it worked really well for me. Figured people here might want it too. It's called Stone.

You've seen a few alternatives lately, so here's what makes Stone different:

  • One-time $9.99. No subscription.
  • No account, no sign-up, everything lives on your device.
  • The basics you'd expect: progression and deloads, plate visualizer, warmup sets, adaptive rest timer, history and progress charts.
  • Color themes and light/dark mode.

And I may be a tad biased, but I focused on making Stone better looking. Subjective, but I believe a better user experience matters.

If you're like me, paying to access your own workout data seems silly. I built import from Stronglifts as a free feature. Exporting from Stone is also free. Viewing your history and charts in the app is free. The only thing you need to pay for is tracking new workouts in Stone.

There's a 14-day free trial that only starts when you log your first workout in Stone (meaning if you import previous data, your old workouts don't trigger the trial).

Right now, Stone has standard 5x5, 5x5 Lite, and Madcow programs. You can also add accessories, change a lot of defaults, and change weights or exercises on the fly. Program depth is at the top of my roadmap, you'll see more programs and exercises in the next month.

I'm a solo dev and a lifter, I'm not looking to build a subscription empire, I want to build something useful for others like me. There's a feedback/request form in the app that goes directly to me, and I'll read everything. You can check out the app here, I'd genuinely love your feedback and hope you find Stone useful!

u/SmilingFallacy — 5 days ago

Squat technique question re depth

As a hobbyist lifter who does not compete in powerlifting, is hitting the technically required squat depth important because we like to have benchmarks so we apply formal rule sets to our hobbies and therefore use the official powerlifting "good lift" standards, or is it important for results of the exercise, whether strength or muscle building, such that if you're an inch or two above correct depth, you are meaningfully reducing effectiveness?

Also, to the extent going deeper puts you at slightly more risk of injury, is it proportional to whatever benefit you get in strength or muscle building?

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u/mipromax — 6 days ago

Squat shoes for wide feet

Guy's, any ideal squat shoes for wide feet? I don't want to spend $200 plus for TYR shoes if I can buy a pair from another brand for a fraction of the price. I did some research and everyone is saying just go up half a size.​ What's your thoughts on the Nike Romaleos?

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u/Spare-Ad-3304 — 6 days ago

Hurt my elbow bench pressing

I started 5x5 in late May and have been professing at the regular speed with adding weight. I recently slowed down the weight addition because my body is still very sore 4 days after a workout.

Today I started benching and my elbow immediately hurt. I tried to get through the sets but stopped at 2 and didn’t continue to BB rows because of the pain in that movement.

Does this just happen sometimes? Poor form possibly? Too much weight? I’m still brand new at this and trying to make it a lifestyle versus a quick snippet of time for health reasons. Thank you!

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u/Connect_Beginning_13 — 7 days ago
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Form Check — Squat

I’m trying to get to 405 on squat at some point and want to make sure my form is right with heavier (for me!) weight. This is 310 and I’m aiming to hit 315 this week.

I tried to do a 3-step walkout and set my feet, but I admit I struggle with this. Please let me know any thoughts, tips, and feedback on my form! Thank you!

u/Snakecharmer13 — 8 days ago
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Squat 220kg (485lbs)

Depth still not perfect but a damn sight better than it used to be

u/TGracie3 — 10 days ago
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Deadlift 95kg * 5 form check

Seems like I round my back a bit, what do you think? Funny thing is I don’t feel any pain or anything wrong when lifting it.

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u/Agile-Bird-978 — 7 days ago

I hit 225 for 5 reps in my squat in 2 months is that good progress?

I got my gym membership beginning of April and started squatting like 145, today I did 225 for the first time for 5 reps, am I progressing well? How long did it take for you to squat 225 for 5 reps?

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u/yaalaa87 — 10 days ago

Going on vacation - gym or rest?

Hey all! I'm about three months into Stronglifts, and really enjoying it and making good progress.

I'm headed on vacation soon where I'll likely miss four sessions. There's a gym nearby that does day passes. But it'll be a pretty active trip with lots of walking/hiking/kayaking, and it might be nice to save my energy for that.

I could also bring my yoga mat for some lighter restorative exercise.

Just curious how y'all think about time away from the program for vacation, and what you'd do in this situation.

Thanks!

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u/AlexJamesFitz — 11 days ago

Continuing program

So I’m now 6 months in into the program and I’m really loving it so far, but I have hit some plateaus I think. The overhead press, bent over row and bench are really staying behind. Last 2 workouts I couldn’t finish all the 5 sets.

Some info about me, I’m a male 183cm and went from 130 to 101 in a timespan of 1.5 year. I’m still trying to get to my goal weight which is 90kg.

I’m aware that this program is mainly focused on eating in a calorie surplus but I’ve kept loosing weight so why change? I also know that my recovery will be slower because of the calorie deficit. I’m tracking my food and I eat around 2100 calories and try to aim for 190 - 200 grams of protein per day.

But now I was wondering if it’s a good idea now to change to 3x5 if so, will this slow down my muscle gains or strength? The reason I want to switch is because I think that my body can recover a bit better.

Any tips are welcome! Thanks!

u/SaiyanPrince_ — 11 days ago

Slow 5x5 progress with a very questionable lower back — still counts, right?

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Hey everyone,

I just wanted to share some slow but very satisfying progress.

For context: I’m 48, around 95–105 kg bodyweight, 185 cm tall, and I train mainly for strength — not aesthetics. Anything that happens visually is a nice bonus, but the main goal is feeling stronger and more capable.

My back is… let’s call it a complicated feature. I have spondylolisthesis, an L5-S1 fusion, and a very unhappy L4-L5 disc that has given me multiple herniations over the years. Chronic pain has been part of the background noise for a long time, and one of the biggest challenges has been fear: fear of damaging myself further, fear of loading too much, fear of doing one stupid rep and paying for it.

Because of that, my progress has been slow. Very slow. But lately, with some help around the fear side of things, I’m starting to trust my body a bit more.

Before following 5x5, I trained quite a lot, but honestly it was mostly “messing around with weights.” Now that I’m following a simple, steady program, I can actually see progress.

Current numbers from my app:

Squat: 70 kg / 154 lb

Bench press: 52.5 kg / 116 lb

Started at 35 kg / 77 lb

Overhead press: 45 kg / 99 lb

Deadlift: 70 kg / 154 lb

Row: 52.5 kg / 116 lb

Bench progress is currently from 35 kg to 52.5 kg, so roughly 77 lb to 116 lb.

I know these numbers are not insane, and I’m definitely not 18 anymore, but for me this feels big. Especially because my left leg can be unreliable at times due to my back history.

A big change has been nutrition. When I started training seriously, I was still fasting in the morning. That no longer works for me. I train in the morning, so now I eat a decent amount of carbs before lifting and take creatine. That has made a huge difference.

I try to train 2–3 times per week and also do a lot of cycling on my trike. I’m now thinking about adding some machine work on non-5x5 days, mostly for conditioning and some more local/isolation strength without beating up my spine too much.

My main rule is still: no ego lifting. Form over weight. Though I also realize that sometimes my perfectionism around form can become a way to avoid going heavier. So I’m learning to find that balance.

Anyway, just wanted to share. Slow progress is still progress. Especially when your lower back has the personality of an angry old printer.

Curious if anyone else here combines 5x5 with lighter machine/isolation days for extra conditioning and support work.

u/9leafs — 9 days ago