r/TheOrville

Though both Star Trek and The Orville have a species designed mainly to be the "sexist race", I think the Orville does a far better job at showing it than Star Trek, for several reasons.

1. Compelling female characters balance out the episodes focused on the species. Kelly, Claire, and Talla are all much stronger characters than Kira or Jadzia, with more focus on them.

2. They receive disdain from other members of the crew, unlike the Deep Space Nine crew who just accept it as normal.

3. The character at the center is much more sympathetic. Bortus is a lot more open-minded than Quark, so it's better to have him as the central focus.

Maybe he just doesn’t have another job aside from being third in command idk. What made me think of this is in an episode where Bortus tells Alara that there’s a person under his command that he can order to go on a date with her. I don’t recall which episode it was exactly. This person ended up being Dann. Now I would think Dann would be under the command of John? Since Dann works in engineering. Now maybe Bortus worded it this way because his job is just command and so everybody is technically under his command? In my mind though I interpreted it as he is in command of a subdivision of people. Like John with engineering and Alara/Tala with security. I couldn’t find anything on the wiki and I’m hoping y’all could help. Thanks.

In the latter, the crew and the viewer, to an extent, are kinda pissed off for being toyed with, one at a time. However, at the end of the former, Kelly invites them to study them after Ed suggests that perhaps the Kelly Planet people would surpass and begin studying them, and Kelly says, "Please do."

So they kind of brought that whole thing on themselves, or at least Kelly did.

I’ve seen a lot of comments on YT shorts/Tiktok, etc where people flame Kelly for having poor arguments during the trial on Moclus in Season 1

Specifically the argument was concerning her getting Alara to crush the metal ball to show that women are strong, but is then hit with a valid counterpoint from the Moclan Arbitrator that Alara is Xelayan and that their species has super strength and that a Xelayan Male could do the same thing.

While i agree that Kelly did a poor job, the episode explains it pretty well when Kelly says that she only had a year of interplanetary law, so it’s no wonder she did poorly in an actual trial, let alone against a probably more experienced lawyer on Moclus.

It just stood out to me that people criticize her for having bad arguments but fail to realize why she has them

Apparently nothing Orville related happened last night. I believe Seth MacFarlane has his panel for his Muppets album sometime later today, keeping an eye and ear out for any updates. If anyone is there, please pass any news along!

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Watching through the series (it's great!) and I love Issac so much, and every time they say something mean to Issac, this image pops in my head, so I had to make it real

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The Kaylon mostly stayed within their planet so how did the Calivon come to respect them?

I'm glad Orville mostly shied away from the Badmirals curse of Star Trek. Just this. I especially liked how Admiral Howard unleashes her fury at Ed and Grayson after the Topaa affair.

She wasn't a dick about it, she was understanding of the morality but correctly remarked the bigger picture. She appreciated the end result but pointed out how lucky they were that it didn't end up in a much greater tragedy.

She also didn't even pretend to buy that they didn't plan it in advance, and made clear if they tried to talk bullshit to her again they'd be metaphorically thrown out of the nearest airlock.

The admirals held the big picture but weren't indifferent to the moral plight. They also were willing to let it slide only because it worked out under every point of view.

So far I'm liking the admirals we've been shown.

Doing a rewatch and just finished season one. I didn’t realize so many memorable episodes were in season one. So many of the episodes I think of when I think of the show are these episodes. To name a few: About a Girl, Majority Rule, Mad Idolatry. I could name almost every episode in the season because they all are memorable but I’ll stop there. It is such a shame this show is slept on. I tell everybody I can about this show and I’ve only ever had one person say they’ve heard of the show. They never watched it just that they’ve heard of it. I really hope all these season four rumors are true and it actually happens.

Edit: Also can we all acknowledge that the best scenes in the show are Dann in the elevator with Ed and Kelly.

Starting Season 3, and I definitely miss the comedy, character development, and personalities of the first two seasons. Just feels like it became a more serialized version of Star Trek, rather than a funny version.

my favourite show, i loved it. so funny but so smart and interesting. cant believe we only got 3 seasons. can we start a movement to bring it back?

With the Topa plot line over (or at least rounded out) with the expulsion of the Moclan’s from The Union and the Kaylon starting their place within The Union. What are we predicting the running subplots to be? Maybe it’s the marriage struggles of Dr Finn and Isaac or the new threat of Moclus and The Krill.