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The case for land value capture with the Elizabeth Line

London's Elizabeth Line is no doubt a success.

However, I believe it was a missed opportunity in the case of better utilizing land value capture to secure more of its funding. While it did use tools like Business Rate Supplement (tax on Greater London businesses), Developer Contributions, and Mayoral CIL (tax on new development), it actually only captured a small portion of the massive property value increase generated by the new line. I argue that these developers and businesses should've contributed more to the line that gain them those profits.

If done right, it could potentially help future transit projects, like CrossRail 2 fund itself without relying on government funding.

I discussed these missed opportunities in a video I made: https://youtu.be/LV4ZktgtFvQ

u/Background-Rice-7813 — 2 days ago
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City Hall backs 'Bill of Rights' for bus drivers

All 21 assembly members in attendance at City Hall unanimously backed a motion to introduce a "Bill of Rights" to protect bus drivers and offer workers more support in heatwave conditions. 

On Thursday, Reform UK Assembly Member Keith Prince laid down a motion proposing the measure, which includes a dozen key principles.

It calls for bus drivers to have access to toilets on all bus routes, rest breaks, no forced overtime, the right to report safety concerns without fear of punishment and working air-cooling and heating systems.

Last week London Mayor Sir Sadiq Khan promised drivers more support to help them cope with the extreme hot weather. 

He told the LDRS that bus drivers who feel their bus is too hot "shouldn't be driving their buses and they will not be penalised for [not] doing so".

During London's heatwave last month, temperatures soared up to 50C in some drivers' cabs, it was claimed, while many bus drivers worked with faulty air-conditioning and air-cooling systems.

Unite the union has accused one of London's largest operators, Arriva, of "putting profits before people" and failing to invest in better cooling systems.

It also alleges that Transport for London and Sir Sadiq are not doing enough to protect drivers and continue to put their safety at risk.

Prince said: "We have seen drivers having to drive with their shirts off, drivers that don't have anywhere to go to the loo. Something needs to be done."

"While it's important we are able to get to work and buses run on time, it's equally important we are not driving these bus drivers to such levels of fatigue that they make human errors."

Sir Sadiq Khan suspended bus performance contracts during heatwaves so drivers would not be penalised for delays

TfL's director of buses Lorna Murphy said in a statement: "Bus drivers play an essential role in keeping the capital moving. Alongside bus operators, we take their safety and welfare seriously and we rightly require operators to meet high standards.

"We are working together on a range of measures to further improve working conditions, health and wellbeing. We are committed to ensuring that all staff have a fair work schedule, with safe vehicles and access to the facilities they need to carry out their roles effectively. We regularly engage with Unite the union on these matters.

"We would like to reassure colleagues again that any reports from drivers are always fully investigated, and our operators should never take action against people raising concerns about welfare."

A spokesperson for Arriva London said: "All of our London buses are fitted with cab air-cooling systems. Cooling technology has developed significantly over the lifespan of a bus fleet and there's no straightforward way to retrofit newer technology.

"We're actively working with vehicle manufacturers to explore what improvements can be made. Driver safety and welfare is a priority for us."

'Sweltering heat'

A Bus Driver Bill of Rights petition was submitted in February 2025 by Caroline Russell, leader of the Green Party in the London Assembly. 

She said: "In Paris last week, a bus driver was overcome by heat and crashed into a tree.

"That single moment says a lot about what happens when conditions become unbearable. Drivers have been working in sweltering heat [in recent weeks]."

Nearly 2,000 bus drivers across 10 depots in north and east London are being balloted over a potential strike due to "unbearable" heatwave conditions. 

This ballot opened on 1 July and will stay open until 29 July.

Unite has warned that any strike action will lead to severe delays and cancellations.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cm2d93r5gp9o

u/Going_Bye — 2 days ago

Walking/travel time from London Stadium after Metallica on Sunday

We're at the Metallica gig tomorrow (Sunday). I'm aware leaving and walking to Stratford can be up to 90 minutes instead of the usual 20 after a large show.

Friend is slightly anxious about making the tube as there isn't the late night service on a Sunday. We're driving up from Dorset, so my plan was going to be parking at Debden, then Central line to Pudding Mill Lane. On the way back the last one from PML is 23:42, or 23:50 from Stratford. As the stadium curfew is 22:00, I'm hoping this is enough time, but friend not convinced.

Any tips, reassurance, totally different routes please? My aim (which we generally do whenever we come up) is to get close with the car but avoid the more inner city driving.

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u/LikeFallingRain — 2 days ago

Letter from tfl

I got this letter from tfl for using my dads 60+ card like 3 months ago. Can someone tell me what’s expected to come. I thought it would be a £100 fine or something but I’m seeing people online say I need to get a solicitor and what not. I’m only 19 and this is my first offence so upon seeing this letter I was lowkey shitting myself icl. Seen a few people say to write a letter to tfl taking accountability and apologising, would you suggest this? I did also lie an say that I only used it once when in reality I used it for about a month or so but irregularly. I haven't used it since so I've learned my lesson lol. p.s if you have something negative to say that doesn't include advice please instead use this time to do something useful. Thank you in advance! :)

u/No-Psychology4036 — 3 days ago

TFL penalty

In the month of april i was stopped by an officer on bus i tapped my friends student oyster as i was jobless at the moment and it was my very first time i used someone’s else’s card he took that card and said you’ll receive mail i received two mails but none of them are final decision anyone knows do they will prosecute or just penalise me?

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u/dadaDID_26 — 3 days ago

Day pass vs tap

Hi I don’t travel to London often, just wondered what is the point of the zones 1-4/1-6 £16.60 day travel card if the cap is like £10.50?
Is it literally just a scam?
Also why is the 1-6 unavailable at some stations, only the 1-4?

Thx

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u/Either_Card_3247 — 3 days ago
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PSA: If you see an issue with street furniture, report it to TfL Streetcare or FixMyStreet

This includes things like Bus Stops, Shelters, Countdown not working etc for TfL Streetcare: streetcare.tfl.gov.uk

And Streetlamps, benches, cycle lanes etc for FixMyStreet (your local council): FixMyStreet.com

u/Going_Bye — 4 days ago

16+ zip card declining on bus?

I have a feeling that its to do w yesterday when I walked through the train station w my mums oyster, and tapping out I accidentally used my zip card. My mum said it wld be fine but now my cards gone red on buses? How do I fix this?

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u/Jxlynerah — 3 days ago
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Dark Mode has arrived for TfL Go (iOS)

I'm excited to announce that TfL Go now supports Dark Mode on iOS. After a bit of a hiccup where we accidentally released part of this last week without the proper settings, today with v3.14.0 you can choose to follow the System setting, or force TfL Go into Dark or Light mode depending on your preference.

We're also really keen to get feedback on this, so in the settings area where you can choose the mode, there's a link to a short survey - please fill it out and tell us what works, what doesn't so we can bring improvements.

For the Android users out there, we haven't forgotten you, but we have some foundational work to do before we're able to bring this, so please be patient with us.

u/staticnz — 5 days ago

Repeatedly overcharged! Please help!

Hi all

Hopefully this is the correct subreddit to post in.

To get to my new job, I’ve been travelling into Waterloo and then Liverpool Street via the underground (Waterloo & City line to Bank > Central Line to L.S.)

As I travel from outside London, I have a season pass to get to Waterloo. I then use Waterloo’s underground walkways (ie the stairs that take you down from platforms 1 - 16ish to the underground) to get to the Oyster card barriers, and tap my contactless card OR Apple Pay to access the W&C line. I then change tubes at Bank and tap out on the barriers using the same payment method. It seems like a pretty straightforward journey with one change. Citymapper states that this journey should cost around £5 each way.

However, I have been overcharged on almost every journey this week. When I spoke with a ticket inspector, he confirmed that the blue oyster validation readers at Waterloo (not the barriers) are the correct way to ensure I’m not being overcharged. For whatever reason, I was overcharged again last night.

Can somebody please help me to understand where I am going wrong? I am being charged the same £23.40 for each day (two journeys combined) and can’t figure out why. Is there an oyster validation point that I am not using after I scan in to the underground at Waterloo? Should I exit the station via barriers at Bank and reenter the station?

Any advice would be much appreciated!

Edit: to clarify, I am 100% using the same payment method to tap in and out as I know this causes issues otherwise!

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u/b6109 — 5 days ago

Night tube on a friday, worth it or just rammed and stressful?

Thinking about using it after a late one instead of forking out for a cab. Never actually tried it on a weekend night before. Is it actually reliable or does it end up being more hassle than its worth?

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u/NorthLondonPulse — 5 days ago

Charged over can’t refund

Been charged £21 for a days travel despite being in London and on an oyster with a railcard. There’s no option to refund as there’s no incomplete journeys.
What can I do?
I went to take that last week and I guess a tap was missed somewhere. But to be charged double is crazy

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u/jenniferf163 — 5 days ago

TFL have charged me twice for one journey?

I got my usual charge for £7.20 at around 3am, but then got an additional charge for £7.20 at around 8:30am. They are still pending, but I’m very confused. I’ve contacted them once when this happened before and they had just said it was the correct fair.

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u/Unique_Lecture4457 — 4 days ago

Stansted to St Pancras

First time in England and kind of confused about London Transport. From Stansted airport I’ll take a Flibco bus to Stratford Bus station. From there I can ride the Southeastern one stop to St Pancras. Does anyone know if the ticket for this is simply something I can tap my card for - or do I need an Oyster or something. Not sure how much it would cost and I’m looking for the most budget friendly option. Thanks!

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u/ResearcherOk9534 — 6 days ago

Schools on buses

Hot take: ENTIRE schools of literal children shouldn’t be allowed to take up an entire bus for their school trip - get a school bus!

I had my regular work commuter bus drive past me today as it was packed with kids. The next one to come was also packed and I had to squeeze on.

Teachers unable to control the kids with them screaming down the bus and constantly pressing the button!!

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u/Tiny-Banana6890 — 7 days ago

Been triple charged

Yesterday i travelled from Gatwick Airport to St Pancras and it was my first time using a TfL service. I used contactless tap and go as im not from London and don’t have an Oyster card or anything like that. I have woke up this morning and been triple charged for my journey. Is this normal and will it get refunded or is it a problem?

u/sambullock4 — 6 days ago