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Image 1 — Mikoto's views on the others
Image 2 — Mikoto's views on the others
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Mikoto's views on the others

First image from John Doe voice drama and second from Amane's first trial timeline!

Just wanted to comment on it a bit because I realized that he didn't defend Kazui and Shidou from the murderer allegations and said Kotoko could have committed murder (she's listening in on this btw! Wonder what she thought of it)

And those three are the people he tried hardest to get close to, so it's interesting! He started hanging out with Shidou and Kazui, and tried very hard to interact with Kotoko. Maybe a defensive action too, to get them to like him because it would be safer?

Next, the interaction with Amane is really tactless all of a sudden, can't tell if this is concern or teasing or?? My impression from this is that he isn't as good at social interactions or reading people as he thinks 😅

Edit to add: Also why not give Shidou a nickname.. he can't be more unapproachable than Kotoko (since that's his reasoning in a different timeline/minigram)

u/Mental-Ad6108 — 4 hours ago
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Milgram Twitter's takes apparently, as observed by me

Several disclaimers:

These are obviously not my takes, in case it wasn't obvious by the sarcastic tiers lmao.

These are just what I've observed by lurking Twitter. Do not take it as deep research or polling or whatever, these are just takes I see on Twitter a lot (without engaging, because not arguing on Twitter is self-care). You may say "well MY Twitter circle doesn't have those opinions" to which I say "idk man, this is just what I've seen".

No, I do not think literally EVERY Twitter user thinks this, nor do I think these takes are unique to Twitter only.

And no, I'm not voting anyone guilty (all inno T3 will happen trust 🙏), just because I'm poking fun at some character takes.

u/tanuki_with_knife — 12 hours ago

I think mikoto fucks

between the adult characters who aren't stated canonically whether they did the deed or nah mikoto is the most likely to do it , AKA I think kayano mikoto indulges in sex , that's not a horny post tho

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u/emilya_sama — 10 hours ago
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chat do we think mikoto is a country boy?

he calls it "the big city" , means he's a country boy means he had a silly accent , too bad he replaced it with whatever teenage girl language he's speaking with now 😒

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u/emilya_sama — 10 hours ago
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Titles for a Never-Happening Mahiru T3

This was just me being bored and loving Mahiru

T3 Song

I was between “ Pop The Question “ or “ I Do “

This is because I felt like it was going towards like a falling in love kind of theme, and these have to deal with Marriage, which is one of the final parts to being in love.

T3 Cover

Stuckmoth

Fits with her character, fits with her voice, just fits (imo)

T3 Voice Drama

“ Honey Moon “ or “ Love Breaks Up “

Either one works once again :3

Mahiru you should have never died 🥺🥺🥺

u/Cooking_Gatcha_Man — 16 hours ago
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Haruka Official Merch Appreciation

After only having my inofficial standee for a while, today my first pieces of official merch finally arrived and I am so thrilled!! 🥰
I am still not too fond of the artstyle they used for these but the outfit is cool af!! Plus the badge on the left is genuinely the biggest I‘ve ever seen - which is why it also has a display stand which is kinda cool!

u/Nephy_Lullaby — 12 hours ago
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Fuuta is going to beat our asses if amane gets guilty

This video is proven canon Btw

u/kaito1412sub — 18 hours ago
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drop your milgram takes...

(Noki, they/them / pu/puppet) drop your takes whether freezing or boiling and see if you're allowed in !!1!1!11!1!

u/bwoodyfailed4ngel — 1 day ago
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I don't know why but this feel more and more like an hot take these days.

In term of innoscaling :

1°) Yuno

2°) Amane

3°) Kazui and maybe Mahiru if you don't believe in the emotional abuse theory (I'm, personnally, since counting as a theory since the rapport didn't directly stated this)

The rest, you can swap it as you want, but those 3 (Yuno, Amane and Kazui) should always be put in that order. imo

I have to say it, I truly sympathize with Hinako and all the suffering she has endured. And Kazui, is indeed an asshole. But I don't know why I see more and more people putting him near or even under people, who know what is right, what is wrong but still choose to kill someone, or to do dangerous acted than anyone in they early 20's should know can be fucking deadly (yes this is for Fuuta).

10 years is a lot. But he """"""just"""""" lied and if took individually is awful, it's still less awful anything that the other (except Yuno and Amane) did.

The only one to which I can give a grace is Mikoto since his crime isn't revealed yet and it's not very clear, we could have a twist.

The rest, I'm sorry but they're more unforgivable than Kazui and I will die on that hill.

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u/Primary-Seat4915 — 23 hours ago
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How I’d rank the prisoners from most to least forgivable (with verdicts)

Edit: I updated the ranking based on comments here

Just wanted to share because the discussion surrounding verdicts is really interesting to me and I like to hear others’ thoughts.

There’s clusters here; I think some prisoners can be placed into subgroups when assessing their cases.

Yuno and Amane are the most undeniably forgivable characters to me—they’re uniquely innocent. Mahiru, I have less strong feelings on, but I feel as though she belongs towards the top. I don’t think she would fit in the next group (Mikoto, Kazui, and Muu). I could be swayed on her placement though.

Mikoto and Kazui are interchangeable at the moment, with Kazui *slightly* lower due to the nature of the collateral, but that’s based on my theories for how Mikoto’s backstory will play out and can change. They could very well flip in two months. Muu is *bit* lower, but not significantly. I think her situation is similar to Mikoto’s in ways actually, and I could elaborate on that if necessary lol but it would be a digression rn.

I bundle Mikoto, Kazui, and Muu together because they’re absolutely 100% forgiven by me, but they aren’t indisputably innocent like how Yuno and Amane are.

Shidou is also forgiven by me, but medical malpractice (lucidity and intent) puts him beneath Mikoto, Muu, and Kazui.

Fuuta is on very thin ice, but still forgiven. He’s kinda like the opposite of Yuno and Amane in that he’s uniquely terrible among the forgiven prisoners. Nothing about his case is sympathetic at all to me. The previous placements have cases that are sympathetic. Nonetheless, his potential (!!!!) for growth landed him a forgiven vote from me (among a few other reasons).

Haruka is the one confirmed unforgiven verdict from me because of the nature of his murder. I seriously can’t forgive it at all.

Kotoko is very much a “????????” because her trial is upcoming and I’m very willing to hear her out. At the moment, I can’t really forgive her based on what I know, but she could go waaaay up depending on her story.

Kotoko and Mikoto’s placements are in part based on present behaviors that I feel could be indicative of past behaviors, as well as some theorizing.

I could elaborate further on any of these honestly, I’ve thought it through a decent amount…

u/style_css — 1 day ago
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Rant: Mahiru's Story if it was GOOD💔

So what inspired me to redesign Mahiru's story is a recent discussion about her character. I noticed that Mahiru was moving like her ass was on the FBI's Most Wanted list despite the only pushback being that her family was influential and didn't like the relationship??? She's an ADULT with a whole ass DEGREE.

I think it would've made more sense if Mahiru's boyfriend had issues with mental instability. Think about it.

The conflict would arise in that Mahiru wouldn't have the knowledge or experience to realise that her enabling her boyfriend's constant love-bombing, threats to harm himself or others, and overall instability, was damaging them both. She'd see him as a "misunderstood bad boy" instead of somebody who genuinely needs psychiatric help and professional support. (The interrogation answers would be so misleading oml)

This already feels like the ideal plot setup for who Mahiru is, a naive and repressed young woman who'd go to great lengths for the love that's she's only seen in movies and read about.

That setup would eventually coalesce in Mahiru unintentionally giving her boyfriend a motive to kill his disapproving family during a particularly unstable episode of his. She'd be in such severe shock, but so unable to let go of her love, that she'd then let him go on the run with her help.

As Mahiru is obviously not equipped to deal with this man and what just happened, she makes all the wrong decisions when it comes to the issues that arise for him emotionally and mentally. For example, she could completely gloss the fact that he just killed his entire family with toxic positivity. This further enables his unhealthy tendencies.

As Mahiru visibly deteriorates, desperately trying to hold onto the one person she thought she could finally love through increasingly ineffective means like the escapism through literature tropes, like those seen in her MV.

It all comes crashing down when her boyfriend commits suicide as a misguided attempt to "free her of the burden."

Now, Mahiru's story doesn't sound one dimensional and stupid anymore. It becomes heart-wrenching and makes the morality of her actions far more complex.

Do we blame Mahiru for enabling her boyfriend and being complacent in the murder of his family?

Do we blame her boyfriend for pulling her into his issues and making himself Mahiru's responsibility?

Or do we blame the unfortunate circumstances that led to two people who were completely unfit for each other to fall into the deepest love?.

It'd make her character a lot more interesting and would put up a genuine thematical and moral dilemma for Milgram better than "Who cares what mom and dad think: Eating rats in a cave with hubby!!!😍🥰"

(Flanderisation, but let me slander the writing just this once)

It feels horrible to me that because of what she became as a character, Mahiru may remain the most neglected prisoner forever despite how she could've had one of the best and most tragic stories if you look at her themes and core character traits.

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u/BeingHeldHostage0 — 23 hours ago
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Milgram Rants(mostly Shidou and Mahiru)

With the way Yamanaka had written the story having certain verdicts in mind for characters he doomed himself and the story because he was biased towards certain routes. This becomes apparent when you notice the routes Yamanaka had obviously intended for to happen came about, such as Muu Inno T1 Guilty T2 and Fuuta Guilty T1 but Inno T2.(You could argue he intended for Muu to be more divisive T1, but it never came about.) It becomes especially glaring when Yamanaka was shocked by the idea that Mahiru got Guilty T1, and after that he abandoned her character by making her auxiliary for Shidou and he wrote the plot in such a way where she was so much more injured than Fuuta, another prisoner who was attacked by Kotoko to the point that without Shidou, Mahiru would die. They say as much in the Trial 2 Commencement Video which leads me to believe that this is simply because he saw Mahiru as more expendable than Fuuta who's arc still had an interesting route to go after getting a T1 Guilty whereas Mahiru's did not.

Speaking of Mahiru

Mahiru is a cute character, but as a character her writing doesn't grip my mind and make me think of her often. Nothing in her character arc was used to say anything of substance regarding love and that was her whole theme, so it's a massive let down.

She had the one topic that brings out both the most beautiful and ugliest in humans despite not being the heaviest thing but you mean to tell me that's all they managed? she had the strongest and most relatable base with her yet they couldn't make anything of substance out of it, like...huh? How does the character who's writing revolves around having the most human emotion manage to feel the least human in the cast. Make it make sense.

Once she got that T1 Guilty, there was zero hope for her character.

Shidou's case made me feel completely nothing. I burst out laughing when I read his report due to how nonsensical it was.

One evening, there is a collision between a taxi and a large commercial truck. The victims who were brought into the hospital were his wife and two children. They had been heading to the hospital via taxi to bring a change of clothes for Shidou that he had forgotten that day. It was a devastating accident, and it was clear that both his wife and children would not survive without immediate care. It is generally forbidden for surgeons to perform on their family members. Shidou was put in charge of the surgery for the driver, the very man who had just bulldozed his entire family. Shidou's head was in a panic, but his hands moved automatically. He quietly killed the truck driver, taking care to make it look unintentional. He thought, the sooner he was done with this surgery, the sooner he could take care of his own family.

You really expecting me to believe that the moment the hospital heard of the fact that Shidou's family and the Truck Driver were in a RELATED accident where they both injured eachother, and their first instinct is to make Shidou WORK on the Truck Driver, while also having the same amount of common sense to say:"Yeah, we can't let you work on your family"(understandable), but then they go around and say that Shidou should work on the same guy in the accident with them? What makes this whole case a bigger clown show is the fact that not ONCE do they ever say or imply that the hospital was understaffed, fans can say this, yes, but at the end of the day it's just an excuse from us the fans to fill in holes from LOUSY ass writing. It shouldn't be up to us to fill it in, that's the writer's job. All of this screams poorly thought out for the sake of making the audience sad with artificial tragedy, but I couldn’t care for it at all. If I want to see something like that, I can just watch a soap opera on Tubi or whatever.

I really don't care about Shidou and Mahiru, but going over their cases again multiplied my apathy towards their cases and frustration with Yamanaka for his writing choices.

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u/caramelribboncurse — 1 day ago