r/whitewater

Only slightly related to whitewater, but I can’t find my copy of the book with the answer to my question. Yes I did search online, and with shit-free search engines.

I used to work as a raft guide on the Chattooga and we often told tourists it is one of the oldest rivers in the world. This was based off a book that a local river man researched / wrote about the river.

Now that I’m older, I’m curious about exactly how old. Like 200 million years? 300 million? Older than trees? The rings of Saturn? Sharks?!

If anyone is in the area, take a quick gander out of the book? Should be available at the outfitters. Thanks fam.

I'm an experienced outdoor athlete, but not an experienced river paddler. I'll be in a pack raft in late October on the North Umpqua. I don't own a wet or dry suit but will be buying/renting something to make this work.

My read is that a dry suit with insulating layers underneath will provide more comfort (warmth) than a wet suit with a splash jacket. I expect to be on the water for 4-6 hours--guessing at least one flip, but that's a guess based on nothing in particular.

This will be part of a larger outdoor effort so retreating to a warm car afterward is not an option. Bulk is not a concern, however.

Should I opt for a dry suit or can I get by with a wet suit setup?

I have all my own gear. Is taking lessons the best way to explore new rivers as a beginner? It is my first season ww kayaking. I have already taken a handful of beginner/intermediate clinics with my local club but for sure could use more practice. instead of relying on local paddlers i figured taking lessons would be safer (although pricey..). im not expecting to paddle the entire ocoee or upper gualey. im okay with only class 3. the instructor for the ocoee sounded skeptical taking me there. they said based on my experience/progression they will decide where the lesson will be...but i still would like to paddle the ocoee .. are there easier sections of it? class2/3? ive taken 4 rolls classes w/ zoar and will work on rolling at the lessons, it's not reliable yet but im hoping to have a decent one by day 6

i know theres a few days spent only driving but i kinda hate driving more than 3 hours so i wanted to break it up a bit lol

Day 1

• Start my drive to Poolsville Maryland

Day 2

• calleva river store
• gonna buy a half sliceeeee!!! 🤩

Day 3

• Paddle the Potomac river and chutes with local guide hopefully
• Start my drive to West Virginia

 

Day 4

• Finish drive to West Virginia

 

Day 5

• ACE adventure resort intermediate kayak lesson 
• Paddling the upper new river gorge and the gauley river

Day 6

• LONG 5 hour drive from West Virginia to Ocoee Tennessee

 

Day 7

• private ACE kayaking lesson
• Hoping to have enough skill by now to convince the instructor to take me on the ococee lol

Day 8

• LONG 5 hour drive from Tennessee to North Carolina

Day 9 and 10

• White water kayak center! 😎

Day 11

• Nantahala falls kayak lesson

 

Day 12

• Start drive from North Carolina to Pennsylvania

 

Day 13

• Finish drive from West Virginia to Pennsylvania

 

Day 14 S

• Lower Yough private kayak lesson in Pennsylvania

 

Day 15 /Day 16  

• Drive home

 

How hard would it be to get in with a group of kayakers on the Friday of that weekend? Super comfortable boater on middle ocoee, have a solid roll. Any info is appreciated!

A few friends and I went rafting three times this summer. We all had fun, and I want to get my own IK, but my friends don't. That's totally fine. I just don't have any whitewater friends. I want to get training next May and kayak down the Main Payette in Idaho. I also want to go down the Lochsa River in Northern Idaho- but my friends aren't interested, so I might just end up doing that alone through an outfitter.

If I'm not going with friends, what do I do? I'm going to end up doing it solo, which doesn't sound safe; so do I tag along with groups? I'm not in any clubs or anything. I also don't know how to shuttle myself to a put-in if I'm alone. What do I do?

I’m looking to roll up to WV the first weekend of Gauley release and wondering where is the best place to camp. I’d love to camp at the takeout of close by, is that an option?

Hi all! I’m just in my second year of whitewater kayaking, absolutely loving it so far. Happy right now in the class II+/III zone and working on progressing skills. I have a liquid logic remix at the moment which is all I’ve ever been in, it was recommended as a great learning boat. It’s definitely nice and stable which I appreciate.

The other day it was mentioned to me that while they’re stable they also might be less nimble and a bit more challenging to go where you want, and it could be worth looking into an upgrade…I like the idea of a boat that’s a bit more fun but I’m also not sure about suddenly being in a super tippy boat when my roll is still inconsistent.

In your experience, when is a good time to move on to a new boat? Any recommendations for a second boat? If it helps, I’m 5’6, F, about 150 lbs and paddle in BC Canada

Hey y'all, recently got a dagger nomad 8.5 from a friend's rental agency in georgia, USA for the best price there is (free!).

Problem is it's missing quite a few parts of the contour ergo creek outfitting. (thigh brace, a couple bolts here and there and hip pads)

Ideally I'd like to find somebody who has irreparably destroyed the hull of their boat and offer to pay them for the contour ergo outfitting so I come out nicely and it softens the blow of losing their boat but I don't know if that's realistic.

Secondarily I've been looking at confluence outdoor for the parts I need (out of stock right now :( and have been for months)

I'm basically wondering

1.) if it's ever a thing for people to part out their kayaks

2.) if there's any other place i can find contour ergo thigh braces and hip pads for sale (and preferably cheap lol)

thanks in advance, any help is huge :)

Hello,

Looking for any advice and/or suggestions on transporting a deflated 13-foot whitewater raft, frame, oars, cooler, and gear for three people, along with transporting three people in a 2019 Rav4 hybrid.

We were invited on a 3-day permitted Rio Chama trip for this upcoming weekend Aug 21-23. I have secured a rental with Far Flung Adventures for a 13 foot raft, frame, oars, and large cooler.

I've done this trip many times, but it has been a very long time- over ten years. Previously I have done this stretch mostly by whitewater kayak and a few times via raft.

That said, I am nervous about my packing plans being sufficient.

We plan on driving to El Prado from Albuquerque the morning of for raft pick up at 7AM. Including me, there will be three people total in my Rav4, along with three medium dry bags, 3 sleeping bags in dry bag stuff sacks, 3 lightweight backpacking sleeping pads. My plan is to place the deflated 13-foot raft and cooler in the trunk, and to strap the frame and three oars on my Rav4 roof rack. We'll also be renting 4 PFDs, throw rope, repair kit that I'm planning on packing inside my vehicle.

Space wise- is this realistic/doable? To pack these items in my vehicle, specifically the deflated raft and large cooler in my trunk, and then strap frame/oars on the roof rack?

Thanks in advance for any help! It's been so long since I've done a trip like this and I'm more familiar with whitewater kayak packing/planning than whitewater rafting.

What happened to river running playboats like the Jackson Fun? These boats used to be everywhere yet I don’t see any manufacturers offering one new. The closest thing I can find is the Pyranha Storm or Liquidlogic Torque. IMO boats like the fun are the perfect boats for summer class 3 on the east coast. They are somewhere between a spud and a full slice, paddling a bit like both but having extra speed that the spud lacks and are more forgiving than a full slice. This space has been taken over by the half slice, but I think the “splice” needs to make a comeback. IMO the 2010 Fun series was the peak of this design.

Hey, some class 4 paddlers looking to get some kayak instruction to up our game. Thinking about doing an international trip in January. Can anyone recommend anyone? Only wanting to have 1 day of travel, so thinking Equador or Costa Rica or similar (ie no chile or NZ, too much travel time)

Also, would be interested in instruction somewhere in the PNW or NorCal if there is something available around here as well.

Thanks!

I asked a store close by when they expected to get the meridian gore tex dry suit back in stock. They said that Kokatat has stopped producing suits in gore tex. If this is true, what dry suit do you recommend?