u/-ChristopherNolan

>"I'm sure people will like to critique the armor...it's one of those places where the artist has a lot of leeway, not the sort of thing that bothers me. We're already in a fictional world, the Greeks wouldn't have assumed necessarily that what Homer sings about is an exact replica of what they're doing on the battlefield..."

Just wanted to share this because it's quite hilarious to me that EVERY academician that has opined on this movie has had a very level-headed understanding of what Nolan is doing and has given positive feedback, while there's edgy teenagers with Greek avatars in their profile pictures who are losing their marbles and think they know better.

I see this a lot when news breaks of a celebrity donating to some charity or the other. A lot of the times, people will bring up "oh this guy just got outed for verbally abusing his co-stars on set, so he's doing XYZ good thing for a good image!".

To me, I think these kinds of arguments are a pointless exercise. If something is objectively a net positive, I do not care about the motive behind the person who did it. What matters is that they did it. That money went to a cause, it will potentially save lives and help the unfortunate. You could even say that doing such philanthropic work is a perfectly reasonable way to make some sort of amends to something wrong you might have done, regardless of whether the philanthropy was suggested to you by your publicist or came genuinely from your own heart.

As an older Gen Z person, this is something that really fascinates me. I grew up surrounded with technology. I mean some of my earliest memories are of playing SmackDown on the PSP. Online has been the viewpoint with which I have looked at the entire world through, for my whole life.

So I really wonder - what was it like for you guys with no internet? What was YOUR "scrolling my mobile phone" - something you would waste hours and hours on with no end and then suddenly realise that the entire day had passed? Or did you not have anything like this in your time?

Also an added question - there is so much FOMO around in the world today driven by social media. Was there a substitute for online forums (like reddit) to interact with other people about your favorite things (upcoming game/movie/show/event)? Was it just limited to your friends? Did the concept of "fandom toxicity" or whatever you have right now on the internet with Marvel vs DC exist? Was it even meaningful enough if it was only between 4-5 people that you knew and were friends with?

Idk I'm mostly just rambling now but for the most part I really just want to know how you guys would do things that happen on the internet today, in your time.

I have firmly come to believe that social media, as it is designed today, has become destructive for the human psyche and the positives it has to offer are few and far between, or (for the most part) can be experienced in a real life setting instead.

Now just to make it clear - this is NOT me saying that the internet as a whole is bad. In fact, I think the ability to connect with your friends, your loved ones, from anywhere across the world instantaneously or the ability to have unlimited resources of knowledge at your fingerprints is a gigantic positive. No thumbs down from me there.

But my CMV is focused strictly on "social media" - instagram, tiktok, twitter. The kind where you are blasted with TMI from millions of people (or to a large extent nowadays, bots) on a daily basis. Our primitive brains are factually not evolved yet to experience such overwhelming amounts of info overload from across entire different continents. Especially where your feed, BY DESIGN, has been made to make you rage. Make you click/reply on something in anger. And then, when the feed recognizes what you've been consuming successfully, it blasts you with more of the same and locks you into a perpetual cycle of misery. To hammer you with the feeling that the entire world is pointless, you and the rest of the world are shit and everyone is hopeless and lonely. So much of today's online discourse is a result of that feeling.

Even the concept of "curating" will only go so far - there have been numerous popular posts on twitter within the past week bringing up how the algorithm is completely broken. You could be clicking like only on artwork, and it won't be long before the algorithm STILL blasts you with a ragebait culture war tweet because the artist you clicked like on, in turn clicked like on a ragebait topic and the algorithm passed that into your feed too.

(Okay so while I generally just think this whole discourse about the accents or the modernness is stupid af, I found this article on r/TheOdysseyMovie with explanations from actual experts in this field was really good and informative so thought it's worth a share.)

>While it might be easy to assume Nolan’s dialogue and decision to use American accents are anachronistic, experts said they are actually more in line with the origins of “The Odyssey” than you might think.

>Performed in front of crowds for centuries before it was first written down in 6th century B.C., “The Odyssey” was constantly reinterpreted by whoever was performing it. 

>“Nolan is only continuing in the tradition that the original performers of ‘The Odyssey’ would have been undertaking themselves,” said Adam Cooper, director of the linguistics program at Northeastern University.

>The consternation around Telemachus saying “dad” and the use of American accents points to misconceptions around what words are modern, he said.

>The word “dad” itself is far from a hyper-modern piece of language. It can be traced as far back as 1533 and even showed up in William Shakespeare’s plays. In fact, English is littered with words and phrases that are much older than you might think, Cooper explained.

>“‘[Dad]’ is meant to approximate something we would have very much expected to have existed in ancient Greek, as in any language, where there are close social bonds between parents and children,” Cooper said.

>So, why is Tom Holland asking for his “dad” instead of his “father”? 

>Kathleen Kelly, a professor of English at Northeastern, acknowledged that it might seem out of place to an audience accustomed to the kind of formal, elevated language in previous adaptations and translations of “The Odyssey.” But it speaks to the truth of the character — a boy on the cusp of manhood who hasn’t seen his father in years and is being overshadowed in his own home by suitors pursuing his mother.