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Just a simple emulsion without a whole lot of extra bells and whistles or other hydrators. It would be for personal use (small batch).

Studies seem to suggest that being the clinically effective dose for skin soothing. Beyond that doesn’t seem to be irritating but it also doesn’t appear to add much.

I’ve read studies indicating that 10% is the clinically effective dose for skin soothing.

I’ve read a couple studies suggesting that 10% is the clinically effective concentration of licorice root.

20% was also good and didn’t seem to increase risk of irritation, but it wasn’t better than 10% for reducing redness which is what I’m looking for.

Hello!

I’m very outdoorsy, so I go through A LOT of sunscreen. As much as I adore the LRP UVMUNE, a bottle only lasts me a week even with my UPF clothing.

Something like at least 200 ml would be nice. A gallon jug with a pump would be a dream come true.

The ingredients I love:
Niacinamide
Symsitive (4 t-butylcyclohexanol)
Caffeine
Ectoin
Neutrogena’s new patented micropeptide
Melatonin

EDIT: My flushing isn’t painful (unless something has come in contact with my skin.) I had no idea that people experienced such painful flushing. I would also avoid spicy food and long runs if they caused me pain.

I eat spicy food, go for long hot summer runs in the park, drink hot beverages, take hot baths, enjoy chocolate and coffee…and like, live my fucking life.

I’ve experienced intense facial flushing my whole life and never once has it occurred to me to feel self conscious about it.

Beyond sunscreen and not drinking alcohol, I don’t bother to avoid triggers. And I stopped drinking alcohol because it’s bad for your whole body, not just skin.

They only time I don’t flush is when I’m in a depressive episode and barely eating/leaving the house. NOT worth it.

I have type 1 and type 2. The things that bother me the most are papules/pustules and PIE.

I ordered it from CaretoBeauty and I’m like…did I get scammed?

I’m using the Invisible Fluid. And yes, I used 1/4 teaspoon for my whole face and I shook the bottle.

But after it dried down it was so totally weightless I thought I must have not put enough so I did a second layer and still cannot feel anything.

If anything, my skin actually looks less shiny than it did before I applied it.

My skin does tend towards dryness so maybe that’s part of it?

I’m American so I guess I’m used to wildly greasy sunscreens. But I use Asian sunscreens and I can definitely feel those on my face at least a little bit.

I’m looking for products that:
1.) Are a primer
2.) Soft matte finish
3.) spf 50+
4.) PA 4+
5.) No toning effect (flexible on this)

This is the only sunscreen I can use around my eyes because it’s the only product that doesn’t get in my eyes and sting. I think the finish, as well as it being a primer, is what keeps it from running in my eyes and making them burn with the fire of a thousand suns.

I’ll go first.

4-t-butylcyclohexanol (aka SymSitive)

No matter what I wear it always seems to get in my eyes and ruin my day. Waterproof, stick, etc. But sun protection is very important to me and I’m not satisfied with sticking to less effective mineral filters even though they’re the only ones that don’t bother my eyes.

This may have something to do with the fact that my eyes are very hooded and it’s impossible for me not to get sunscreen on my eyelashes.

I don’t really understand how that’s possible. I know that nothing ingredient is universally tolerated, but still. If zinc is a known astringent, why is it recommended for people with eczema when there are other non-astringent barrier options?

I’m told it’s soothing and drying, but wouldn’t drying be the opposite of soothing for someone with dry skin?

It’s also recommended that people with eczema/dry skin use mineral sunscreens instead of chemical ones. I know how chemical sunscreens burn when your barrier is compromised, but zinc sunscreens also feel very drying to me. So is it just a matter of picking the lesser of two evils?

I know there are gonna be a lot of ppl saying “never use undiluted glycerine” and “never use glycerine without an occlusive” and “only apply it to wet skin”

Believe me, I hear it all the time. But honestly sometimes glycerine feels like it works even better for me than Vaseline. I keep a little jar of it on myself at all times. I use it mostly for my lips but I’ll apply it directly to my dry face when I’m having extreme dryness. I also slather it all over my face before bed and I don’t always follow it up with an occlusive.

I have rosacea types 1 and 2 and I swear to god undiluted glycerine straight to my face even in dry weather has been a HG for me when I’m flaring and can barely tolerate anything on my face.

I don’t think it’s true that glycerine exacerbates TEWD without an occlusive.
Since glycerine is a humectant, it attracts/holds onto water. So the concern is that if there’s not enough water already on the skin or in the air, it’ll pull too much water from the skin’s deeper layers, drying them out too much. And then I guess the other concern is if you don’t put on an occlusive, the glycerine will evaporate out of the skin’s deeper layers and take the water with it.

The thing is, glycerine evaporates so slowly as to be almost negligible.

My theory is that I think that glycerine doesn’t evaporate from your skin, it’s stick so it stays there and it doesn’t just lie on top of the skin to be wiped off either because it penetrates deep. And because it holds onto water, it helps keep the water from evaporating out of your skin.

It does pull moisture from the deeper layers of skin, but I think that moisture is quickly and easily replenished because the epidermis is hydrated and therefore better able to do its job of keeping water in. Because the issue with dry skin isn’t so much that the skin doesn’t produce enough moisture as it is that the skin doesn’t hold onto that moisture.

Chemical ones also sting. So far, the only one that really works for me the most consistently is the Judydoll SPF primer. It’s a combination sunscreen. But even that one causes me to flare up at least a little bit by the end of the day. Even right now I am ever so slightly itchy.

The only one that’s never caused me any issues was the Round Lab Birch Juice Moisturizing SPF stick. But I have to put so much fucking product on to get decent coverage that a whole stick only lasts me a week.

The regular round lab birch juice sunscreen (both the mild-up mineral and the chemical) sting/itch.