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"the average person is just consuming their media on a surface level, taking it at face value and making snapshot judgments without any deeper analysis." How That Didn't age well Destroyed Media Literacy- YouTube
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"the average person is just consuming their media on a surface level, taking it at face value and making snapshot judgments without any deeper analysis." How That Didn't age well Destroyed Media Literacy- YouTube

So this video is looking at past media (which I don't think I'm the only one who saw as problematic at the time. *cough*John Hughes movies*cough*), but it uses that lens to discuss the importance of critiquing the media that we consume and not just interacting with it on a surface level. Does that mean we can't love problematic things? Hell no - One of the examples she cites is Barney from HIMYM, who I love despite knowing he's a deeply misogynistic, manipulative, and shallow person that I would hate to run into IRL and he's not the only example for me personally, which is why folks saying we must hate The Pitt for being critical of it is ridiculous.

>They just consume whatever they're told, given, or shown uncritically, and they take it all at face value. Most people read an article or look at something and think they know everything they need to know to form an opinion without any further inquiry because they assume they have the full picture.
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The sheer number of times I have found myself explaining the subtext, implications, impact, or deeper meaning of a piece of media only to be met with "It's just a show, it's not that serious, it's just a joke, it's not that deep, you're overthinking it!" Or some other vapidly incredulous statement that fails to take into consideration the world around us, and the fact that our media, art, and entertainment both reflect and influence the world around us is astounding.
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if we don't even know what media analysis is, we damn sure don't know why it's important.
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So combine that with the fact that they're also choosing not to watch media they believe is morally bad or conflicts with their values in some way, because they think the media they consume must be a reflection of their own values, and we arrive at the death of media analysis.

P.S. (I will be adding this to the resources page on the wiki as well)

EDIT: it erased my quotation. BOOOOO.

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u/AdoraBelleQueerArt — 2 days ago
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ALL BAD FAITH REPORTS BREAK REDDIT TOS & WILL BE REPORTED (y'all just hate that we exist don't you? Mind ya business!)

There's been an uptick in completely bullshit bad faith reports lately that are completely abusing the reporting system. (For example: waaaah poor creators is about your asses defending them against literally ANY criticism not an actual critique of how they're handling the show. They're not gonna choose you dudes)

This is a flagrant violation of Reddit's Rule #2, Abuse of reporting channels. This could include:

  • Sending a high volume of reports targeting non-violating content in a specific community or by a specific user. 
  • Using Reddit’s report feature to send abusive messages to community moderators or Reddit admins.
  • Encouraging or coordinating other users to engage in abuse of Reddit’s reporting channels.

As such every single bullshit report will be reported to the Reddit Admins and one of the following will occur (additive, I assume, though you can never tell what mood the mods will be in)

  • Send a warning to the user who posted it
  • Temporarily ban the user’s account(s) 
  • Permanently ban or terminate the user’s account(s)  
  • Restrict the creation of new accounts
  • Remove privileges from, or add restrictions to, the user’s account(s)

WE GET IT. You dislike critical conversations, but you're going out of your way to come here and bother us. You can LITERALLY IGNORE OUR EXISTENCE. Y'all need a hobby so may I suggest r/Hobbies to help you find a better and more productive one then hate reading this forum.

Y'all really need to learn how to mind your own business. Not everything in life is for you AND THAT'S OK.

^(Seriously who's the one in the parasocial relationship here? Noah Wyle doesn't need you to defend him. He's) ^(fine.)

Edit: that said - if anyone wants to mod hmu

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u/AdoraBelleQueerArt — 7 days ago
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When McKay's douchebag ex is confronted by the Mommy McKay army

You should be scared Chadwick "Chad" Harrison Ashcroft III. Nobody messes with Mommy McKay on our watch

u/AdoraBelleQueerArt — 8 days ago
▲ 2.1k r/RoastMyCat

This is Roxi. Her breath is so noxious it can melt steel. The CDC has been notified. Roast her stinky ass

“Alas! Why does the pungency of thou breath inflict such a villainous blow of which is offensive to thine nostrils (Shakespeare)” - me @ Roxi whenever she’s within 2 meters of me

EDIT: we had our annual vet visit last week. No dental issues and she’s healthy, though she’s now on a wet only diet cuz she’s on a diet which has made her breath WORSE, which i didn’t think was possible

u/AdoraBelleQueerArt — 9 days ago
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Does the Pitt have a masculinity problem?

Sincerely interested in people's POV here. It feels like this show is incredibly sympathetic to men, but less interested in humanizing the women or having their stories/perspectives heard — especially women of color. Dr. Mel King being the only exception. And as much as I love Dr. Mel King, it makes me sad that the portrayal of autism in media is almost always a cis white women who's quirky.

Dr. Robby was practically punishing Dr. McKay for her fear of the teen incel boy. He was so nasty to Dr. Mohan, for having empathetic qualities we see celebrated in Dr. King. His decisions around reporting child abuse were not only factually incorrect (as many doctors and social workers said, he absolutely should have reported it), he was nasty about it. It's as if he doesn't conceive of the idea of women having hands-on experience with violence. He is abrasively mean to Dr. Gloria Underwood. I felt he was often misogynistic to Dr. Collins as well, but at least she had a fully-fleshed out and beautiful story with her miscarriage and abortion.

I thought this show was about a flawed doctor with misogyny as one of those flaws, but many don't seem to agree. Perhaps its unintentional?

And when we look at the storylines — which characters get redemption, which flaws deserve empathy, which characters do we care enough to renew every season, which are sidelined — it's telling that no white men have been "cycled out." Like, why is Kiarra replaced with a white man for season 2? Why are the women of color always "off for the day", but not Whittaker or Langon? It seems like there's a masculinity problem here. I think it's very possibly unconscious bias on behalf of the showrunners, but that doens't mean it's not present.

u/AdoraBelleQueerArt — 5 days ago
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Women and Power: The Pitt - YouTube

I stumbled upon this video and I think a lot of folks here will appreciate it. Between seasons (when I found the show & the subs) in a discussion I brought up that Gloria is not, in fact, the villain of season 1 and there is NO villain other then the American healthcare system, so I do enjoy hearing a medical professional agree with me and reiterating my points that Gloria is just doing her job and that if she wasn't in that position someone would be. It's a systemic issue not an individual one. (Though honestly I do think that that argument, even without this video, would be better received here then it was in the main sub)

>She shouldn't be an antagonistic force or an annoyance, she should be an ally. After all, she is a physician by trade. She is an executive, but that doesn’t necessarily mean she’s on the board of directors. She’s at the mercy of the board’s budget and cannot directly control it, but she has to play the bad guy and communicate much of it to the doctors.

>And as we know from watching the show, guys like Robby love to shoot the messenger.

>At the same time, she has to report to the board and explain every time that the hospital goes over budget, after which she’s probably yelled at for not cutting expenses enough.

I also loved that she brought up Tracy Morris (the for-profit exec in season one that was there for like 30 seconds). "Hear me when I say this, Gloria might at times be a cartoon, but this character is literally not a character." Because we all know that most healthcare execs are definitely women, especially mustache twirling evil women like her who try to bribe doctors within minutes of meeting them. 🙄

>Well previously, I theorized that the CMO of the hospital was written to be female because she’s supposed to be unthreatening and incompetent. THIS, is like the opposite archetype of female character. The evil, cold, untrustworthy bitch.

>She’s not incompetent, she’s good at what she does, and what she does is be a bitch.

>Almost like the Iron Lady trope, except that she’s always the antagonist, she’s purposely hateable, and she can spare just enough emotion to smirk at you. And these characters are female because women are just great at being snakes. It’s a trope that fits the aims of this character…pretty well. Still the characters could have been male— some slimy, scary, powerful suit coming in to represent a giant corporation and threaten the hospital.

>My best guess though, and this really is just a little inkling in my brain, is that in the Pitt, no one is allowed to be a bigger alpha than Robby.

>If all other things about this Tracy Morris character stayed the same but she were a man, he would be too intimidating.

>Robby acts as both protector of the Pitt and again ultimate pinnacle of masculinity. He can’t come across as too afraid, especially not of an outsider. A female character is easier for him to assert dominance over.

>To be clear I’m not saying that the idea is inherently less threatening because the character representing it is female. It’s more like, they chose to make the character female because they imagined a certain character trope which is subconsciously associated with women, which then had the secondary effect of Robby’s character treating her similarly to how he treats his female boss: disrespectfully.
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I just found it interesting that at every opportunity, authority figures in this series are made female, yet they never seem to be good authority figures. They’re ones that for some reason or another don’t deserve the power that they have.

Later in the video she talks about how the belief that Hillary Clinton, or any woman could become president put most people in a "post-sexism" mindset where they stopped checking their sexism much like how Obama put people in a "post-racism" mindset where they stopped checking their racism and how that subconciously influences the choices on The Pitt writers and how the women on the show are perceived.

About how if Gloria had been a man his actions wouldn't fit the tone of the show and instead be a fit for a comedy (I'm seriously getting Michael Scott vibes right now), but of course we know that a woman, a Black woman at that, would never rise to the position of Chief Medical Officer being such a bad boss. In fact to rise to that position Gloria would have to be hyper-competent.

>"Gloria makes out-of-touch poorly-timed comments about incident reports, exterminators and patient satisfaction scores, and she’s just a bad boss.

>We scoff at this ridiculous boss’s silly demands of the down-to-Earth, hardworking, RATIONAL Dr. Robby."

Anyway I'm still formulating thoughts b/c my dumbass forgot to turn on the subtitles so I only half heard the video and I really was just so excited to hear the sentiments I was basically shouted down for stating.

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u/AdoraBelleQueerArt — 14 days ago
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Venting thread final battle

So these are the top two options. Which would you prefer? A weekly venting thread or a monthly one?

Again we are just taking the temperature of the room, but your vote is important so please let us know.

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u/AdoraBelleQueerArt — 15 days ago
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So this has come up before here in posts, comments, and mod discussions and it has recently come up again. So we are asking for your feedback on what you would like to see as the mod team did agree to revisit the issue at a later date, and this is a later date.

So let us know if you want to put all the venting about other fandom spaces into a single massive post - whether that be Monthly thread or a mega thread with a button on the sidebar to make it easy to access. or something else that you can tell us about in the comments.

Right now we are just taking the temperature of the room, but your vote is important so please let us know.

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u/AdoraBelleQueerArt — 20 days ago
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Ok ok ok so I know that folks here aren't the biggest Dr. Mike fans (and I TOTALLY get that), but SUPRIYA GANESH IS ON THE SHOW!! (I'm currently watching and she just admitted that she hasn't watched any of season 2 before filming this which makes me even sadder about what happened to her cuz it reaffirms that she was completely blindsided)

She brings in her med student background and everything. I love how articulate she is while talking about the show and her role in it.

I so love her. When she was talking about the panic attack scene (sooo good) this quote just made me fall in love more:

>Don't get me started on like pathologizing mental illness. I can like go on forever and like maybe get myself canceled. So, let's just keep going.

Anyway I think this episode is worth watching because she's so great, but also it'll probably make you more upset lolsob

u/AdoraBelleQueerArt — 21 days ago
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I was just really happy to come across this (peer reviewed published article - don't worry it's easy to understand) about why we should take TV seriously. From the article (that also cites it's sources MUAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA)

>Studying TV shows means paying attention to popular culture as moral resource. It is not a matter of drawing from a reservoir of past examples but rather of inverting hierarchies of what matters. Reconsidering the “popular” leads to rethinking the connection between culture and democracy, in order to organize both of them pragmatically around actual, shared practices and forms of life. Popular culture (movies and TV shows, videogames, music, Internet videos, and so on) plays a crucial role in re-formulating ethics and in the political and social constitution of democracy. Dewey defines the public as emerging from a problematic situation: individuals experience a problem that they initially see as arising from private life, and a solution is arrived at through the interactions between those who decide to give public expression to this problem. This leads to rethinking the connections between culture and democracy.
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TV series accompany us (or used to accompany us – today their life span seems shorter) over the years as the plot unfolds and evolves, as we unfold and evolve. The importance of TV series is further reinforced by audiences’ attachment to characters: viewers truly care about/for TV series protagonists. TV series provide communities with words for conversations and a common language to approach the world, empower individuals with moral judgment, and present varieties and differences in moral points of view.

>These shows are increasingly important to the way we deliberate in the public sphere. They appear regularly in policy debates and impact both public perceptions and policymakers. They are repeatedly present in conversations, surveys, debates; they constitute an “interface” between the private and public spheres. They make possible a new way of “educating” the viewer’ and “creating” a public through the expression and transmission of values and problems. By virtue of their aesthetic format, TV series entail viewers’ initiation into forms of life that are not made explicit and are initially opaque and sometimes disturbing.

>All the contributions to this issue, in their various topics and styles, take TV series seriously. They demonstrate the intelligence a show brings to its own production – the importance of the function of the screenwriter, the work of actors, the choices made by showrunners, and so on. Actors’ modes of expression and embodiment of characters (moral texture, gait, style of speaking and behaving) in TV series are central to the moral education made possible by such works. All the studies here highlight the collective and individual moral choices, negotiations, conflicts, and agreements that are at the basis of this education; trajectories of characters or ensembles; narrative turns and arcs; plot twists; and so on. Series are linguistic, ethical, epistemological, and cultural references that structure understandings of the world. (emphasis mine)

I found this while creating a wiki for us! (with SO MANY links b/c I am a researcher and I cannot do anything without bringing a powerpoint presentation to it). This and many other articles and resources are linked in the wiki, but I love this one because it's a very

HA!

moment at all the people saying "it's not that deep" and "idk what parasocial means how dare you care about fictional characters" (like do these people not know that tons of studies have been done that show that in general the more books you read growing up the more empathetic you are b/c you spent your childhood putting yourself in other people's shoes and caring about them.).

Story brain (Mike Dimartino, co-creator of the last airbender)

>Stories are the way we learn about the world, and as some of the research suggests, reading helps us “hone our real-life social skills.” It’s a safe place for us to encounter fear, love, heartbreak, betrayal, and excitement — all without the real-life social and physical dangers.

I'm just so annoyed because the whole reason we tell stories is to connect, to understand what we don't understand, to work through our fears and our anxieties, to share our joys and our sorrows, to inspire, to dream of things that are not yet possible but may be some day, to entertain, and to try to make sense of this world that often makes no sense. (Seriously I could go on for DAYS about how we use horror, especially, to examine and work through our fears - you can tell what a society is grappling with by their horror movies.) Discworld is one of the most popular book series IN THE WORLD for the past FORTY YEARS and that world runs entirely on Narrativium, not Quantum like us poor sods. (I did make a couple of posts about it in the intro thread cuz someone asked & if you couldn't tell by my username I am a Discworld fan - we're a quiet fandom, but we're really dedicated). We CRAVE stories

>Stories have been told as long as language has existed, and without stories the human race would have perished, just as it would have perished without water. - Karen Blixen

Isaac Yuen breaks down the 1.5 hour video Why we tell stories: The Science of Narrative into 5 basic points in his post here, which basically break down to:

  • stories have the power to change us
  • they help us understand others better by being able to see through their eyes
  • they help us find meaning in this mess of an existence
  • they help us bond with one another (i mean look at this sub & my Discworld word vomit lol)
  • they allow us to test out different social situations without risk - they are simulations

Idek where I was going with this. I was just going to announce the wiki & the resources, but I just get SO MAD when people try to minimize or dismiss the fact that humans are WIRED to create and consume fiction. It is one of the truly great tools that humanity possesses (the greatest being empathy, ofc, but as stated above stories can teach us empathy). I truly do not believe anyone in any of these forums who dismisses people for caring about the show and the characters has never cared about fictional characters. In fact, why the fuck are they talking about the show if they don't care? Whatever. Not my circus.

In case you couldn't tell I LOVE stories and the power of fiction. I can open a book and hallucinate a completely different world all from scraps of paper! That's AMAZING. Stories and books are how I survived a childhood growing up in an abusive household. My body may have been stuck there, but my mind traveled across universes. Hell I created my own little universes with my own (found) families. And here I am sometimes a bit too overly empathetic (better then not & I'm not a doormat). Never once did I think that they were real, even as an 8 year old, but they were there (seriously I would have written a MASSIVE AMOUNT of ao3/wattpad fiction cuz I have complete worlds in there (there are folks to write OC stuff not inspired by anything else, right? I assume yes)

I guess on one of my favourite days of the year I wanted to talk about one of my favourite parts of being human and I'm so glad that you all here understand this and that we have this little slice of reddit to discuss this story.

Oh yeah on to the mod announcement thing - here's what you can find on the wiki:

Some of the stuff I expanded on and linked to in the wiki (most of these y'all know, but feel free to pass them on - sort of a shared resource section for anyone who wishes to come and participate here)

  • Expanded rules (& illustrative links! & quotes!)
  • Resources (LINK CITY!)
  • Intersectionality 101
  • more to come????
u/AdoraBelleQueerArt — 22 days ago
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Whether you celebrate by dancing around a Maypole, fighting For worker’s rights, OR BOTH! I hope you all have a glorious International Worker’s Day!! (We totally need more Union talks in the Pitt IMNSHO)

How are you celebrating? Do you have any May Day traditions?

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u/AdoraBelleQueerArt — 22 days ago
▲ 62 r/TheExpanse

I made this for C2E2. If I’m going to carry a gun (and this was my first cosplay with a realistic gun, only my second with a gun - I’m not a gun person) I’m gonna make it the most badass gun. So I made Ashford’s gun! (First time 3D printing too).

I also made the boot attachments so that you could tell my mag boots were always on lol (I’ll get to the backpack - i was also doing Death Stranding so i was going very basic with my belter cosplay).

u/AdoraBelleQueerArt — 28 days ago