Image 1 — The TV set in the lobby - how it was done?
Image 2 — The TV set in the lobby - how it was done?

The TV set in the lobby - how it was done?

This is a reprise of a post I made to The Shining sub-reddit, with additional information.

I recently identified the TV in the scene where Wendy is watching TV - it is a Dynatron CTV20, a British PAL TV. Wendy is watching The Summer of '42 - but there is no power or antenna cable visible. I recently talked to Lou Bogue, the Gaffer on The Shining. He's 80, but still very sharp and full of anecdotes about Kubrick. He did not recall any special rig for this set up, but said that the typical method would have been to have taped the cables behind one of the legs and cut a hole in the rug. I looked for a sign of the cables emerging from the rug to go to a power socket and there was some thought that perhaps they were concealed by gaffer tape along the dark area on the right, which is part of the floor design. However, that doesn't convince and wasn't necessary - the floor was made of laquered plywood panels that could be lifted out, to access the sub-floor. I think down the leg, hole in the rug and a hole in the panel with access to the electrics and it's done. Very nice, very simple.

As to why - I think for visual symmetry, with a bit of spookiness thrown in.

BTW

The TV in the Boulder apartment, the Caretaker's apartment and Halloran's apartment is a JVC 7808.

The TV in the Overlook kitchen and Durkins garage is a Hitachi CWP 132 portable.

u/Al89nut — 18 hours ago

The TV set in the Lobby of the Overlook

I interviewed Lou Bogue, the Gaffer on The Shining a few days ago. He's 80 but is very sharp and good to talk with. One thing I asked about was the lobby TV set scene and the absence of visible power and antenna cables. He didn't recall it as a specific electrics set up, which suggests it wasn't specially rigged, eg as something relatively complicated like the cables running out of sight of the camera axis through a gap in the door behind. He said the normal method would be to simply tape the cables to the back of a leg and then run them under the carpet (presumably through a slit.) I'm not entirely sure that's how it was done. I can't see a cable bulge and it doesn't emerge from the carpet, which would mean there had to be recessed floor mounted sockets. It might mean it was done though the door minus a pane of glass. I'd hoped for a definitive answer...

As to why, I prefer the visual symmetry explanation, though it does subtly add to the spookiness of the hotel.

EDIT - some people have noted the line of black or dark marble material that the rug overlaps on the right, near the radiator. It is part of the floor design - you can see it on the other side, at right angles under the two armchairs and parallel in the very foreground. But on the right side, it might hide a cable with a bit of gaffer tape or a channel...

EDIT 2

The floor was liftable plywood panels. Perhaps a wire down the leg, a hole in the carpet and a socket under the floor works.

BTW the second image is an AI sharpened version, which I thought was useful in reference to the screen cap.

u/Al89nut — 1 day ago

The Summer of '42

Regardless of any interpretation, I am interested in how Kubrick had access to this movie in the first place, so as to be able to show a clip on the TV which Wendy and Danny watch in the lobby. That TV was a Dynatron, a British make which therefore used the PAL system. Summer of '42 wasn't released to home-video until 1984. Thus, three possibilities may exist: 1) It was shown on ABC TV in the US in 1975 and 1976 - therefore a NTSC video master existed. It was a WB distributed film and could have been obtained and transferred to PAL 2) However, the film was shown on Thames TV in the UK on 14 November, 1977, so a PAL master must also have existed. Kubrick may have had a copy made from the PAL video master, or just perhaps he recorded it at home - it is described as one of his favourite films. 3) As one of his favourite films he may have had his own print - and had it telecined to be used. Wouldn't it be great if what we saw was his own print or better still, his own home video?

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u/Al89nut — 11 days ago

I have identified the unplugged TV set.

Unless I'm mistaken the "unplugged" TV set on which Wendy watches The Summer of 42 (apparently unplugged) has never been identified. I am certain it is a Dynatron CTV 20, an up market British TV from the 1970s. It was a TV set with a Royal Warrant - in other words, it was a model supplied to HM The Queen. The TV set was also known as "the Blenheim" and was one of the first in Britain to come with a remote. Link and more images https://www.worthpoint.com/worthopedia/vintage-retro-dynatron-ctv20-25-470832725

EDIT - it's not the same TV in Halloran's apartment or in the Caretaker's suite, they are JVC 7808s

https://www.radiomuseum.org/r/jvc_7808_ee.html

u/Al89nut — 12 days ago

I have identified the TV set at the Overlook

Unless I'm mistaken the TV set on which Wendy watches The Summer of 42 (apparently unplugged) has never been identified. I am certain it is a Dynatron CTV 20, an up market British TV from the 1970s. It was a TV set with a Royal Warrant - in other words, it was a model supplied to HM The Queen. The TV set was also known as "the Blenheim" and was one of the first in Britain to come with a remote. Link and more images https://www.worthpoint.com/worthopedia/vintage-retro-dynatron-ctv20-25-470832725

EDIT - it's not the same TV in Halloran's apartment. the Boulder apartment or in the Caretaker's suite. Those are JVC 7808s. https://www.radiomuseum.org/r/jvc_7808_ee.html

u/Al89nut — 12 days ago
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