Does Yasir Qadhi actually hate "Progressive Muslims"? He seems pretty respectful to Progressive minded thinkers despite having disagreements with their views

Does Yasir Qadhi actually hate "Progressive Muslims"? He seems pretty respectful to Progressive minded thinkers despite having disagreements with their views

I know some of you might link to this video, or this much older video. However, the question is what kind of progressive was he referring to? Because there is a wide spectrum of people, and progressive is not a monolith. What I understand by progressive and what you understand by progressive might be different depending on the definition of progressive.

Some people understand progressive to mean challenging the entire legal framework of Islam itself and replacing everything with liberal ideas. But the "Progressive" thinkers often promoted here (Khaled Abou El Fadl, Mufti Abu Layth etc) work from within the legal framework and explain things like "the jurist misunderstood that context or evidence and therefore gave this ruling", or " context was different" like that. And Yasir Qadhi seems to have differentiated between the two.

Last year Yasir Qadhi came to the r/MuslimAcademics subreddit on an AMA event. In that event he was asked about progressive minded thinkers like Fazlur Rahman Malik and Javed Ahmed Ghamidi, and he was respectful to them even if he disagrees with their views. He did not call them deviant, heretic or kafir.

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In that same thread he was also asked about being a friend with Dr Omid Safi, and he praised Dr Omid Safi.

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Mind you that Omid Safi has supported same sex marriage being legalized by the state. I'm not sure if he personally believes that Islam allows gay marriage or gay sex is permissible (can't find it), but he supports the legal recognition of same sex marriage and LGBTQ rights by the state/country (Source: Religion News).

This is more liberal stance than Ghamidi's and yet Yasir Qadhi praises Omid Safi. He says he can have friends while disagreeing with their views. And Omid Safi was the founder of Progressive Muslim Union (PMU) which later disbanded and Muslims for Progressive Values (MPV) was born.

Yasir Qadhi does not have any problem with having friendship with him! So this is very significant.

And finally, going back to the most recent video of Yasir Qadhi discussing about Progressive Muslims (that one I linked at the top of my post) - a user from this subreddit was present at that lecture of Yasir Qadhi and he asked YQ about Dr Khaled Abou El Fadl. Yasir Qadhi replied that he would no put Dr Khaled Abou El Fadl in the "Progressive" category he was addressing, instead he would put him into a totally different category

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(I actually had a discussion with u/Khaki_Banda and u/Gilamath on this in one of my previous posts. I decided to search further and found the comment on Yasir Qadhi's friendship with Omid Safi, so I thought I should make a post about it. Because Omid Safi actually identifies himself with the label "Progressive", and Yasir Qadhi still considers him a friend)

So isn't it clear that when Yasir Qadhi mentions the word Progressive, he doesn’t mean people like Khaled Abou El Fadl, Javed Ahmed Ghamidi or Dr Omid Safi, or people who follow them, or have similar framework as them?. I think he actually refers to the liberal Muslims who challenge the entire Islamic legal framework itself and want to deconstruct everything, and the ones who explicitly stated that same sex marriage and sexual acts is permissible in Islam - when he talks about the Progressives. Probably.

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u/Eastern-Following571 — 19 hours ago
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Birthdays, Halloween, Christmas, New Year, Valentine’s Day, Thanksgiving... & Other Festivals: Can Muslims celebrate them or not? A look into Dr Yasir Qadhi’s interesting nuanced position.

Dr Yasir Qadhi has discussed the question of non-Eid festivals in several lectures, and his position is much more nuanced than the simple claim that “Muslims can only celebrate two festivals and everything else is haram.” Across the three lectures, he repeatedly distinguishes between religious festivals, secular communal festivals, private personal celebrations, and festivals that occupy a gray area between the two. His framework also depends heavily on his understanding of tashabbuh bil-kuffar (imitating non-Muslims), the distinction between religion and culture, and the difference between a festival's ancient origins and what that festival actually means to people today.

1️⃣ Personal and Private Celebrations — Birthdays, Anniversaries, Graduations and Other Life Events

>Yasir Qadhi places personal and private celebrations in the first category. These are celebrations that an individual or family organizes for themselves rather than celebrations imposed or organized by the whole society, and which have no inherently religious purpose. Examples he gives include birthdays, marriage anniversaries, graduation parties, celebrating a new house, celebrating a new job or promotion, and other personal milestones.

>His position is that the Sharia is silent about these celebrations, meaning that it neither commands nor prohibits them. He strongly rejects the idea that simply having a recurring celebration automatically makes something bidʿah. In his view, bidʿah is an innovation in religion, something a person does as an act of religious devotion expecting Allah to reward them for it. A family celebrating the birthday of a child is not doing this as a new form of worship, and therefore, according to his understanding, it cannot simply be declared bidʿah because it happens every year.

>This is also why he repeatedly says that the hadith in which the Prophet told the people of Madinah that Allah had replaced their two days with two better days — Eid al-Fitr and Eid al-Adha — cannot automatically be used to prohibit private celebrations. The people in that hadith were celebrating as a community, whereas a birthday party or anniversary dinner in someone's home is a fundamentally different phenomenon.

>He is particularly explicit about birthdays and marriage anniversaries. He says there is nothing in the Qur'an or Sunnah that prohibits a couple from making their wedding anniversary special every year. In fact, he argues that increasing love and affection between husband and wife is itself consistent with the aims of the Sharia. A husband taking his wife out for a romantic dinner on their anniversary is not an act of worship, but it can nevertheless serve a good purpose that the Sharia itself values.

>He also makes a distinction between his personal opinion and an Islamic ruling. He says that he himself did not grow up celebrating birthdays and has never had a birthday party. He even says that, personally, he thinks an adult throwing a birthday party can be childish. But he immediately emphasizes that his personal opinion does not become Sharia. He says someone may personally think birthdays are unnecessary, wasteful or childish, but that does not give them the right to say that Allah and His Messenger have made birthdays haram.

>He applies similar reasoning to Valentine's Day. He says that Valentine's Day is not presently a religious festival, and whatever pagan associations it may have had historically are irrelevant if those associations have disappeared from the modern practice. He gives the especially interesting example of converts who, before becoming Muslim, may have grown up treating Valentine's Day as a day for expressing romantic love. He says that such people should not automatically be told that doing something special on Valentine's Day is haram, provided that what they actually do remains within Islamic boundaries.

>So his first category is broad: birthdays, anniversaries, graduations, housewarming celebrations, promotion parties, Valentine's Day celebrations and other private milestones are, in his view, permissible provided that the actual contents of the celebration are halal.

2️⃣ Communal and Secular Celebrations — Thanksgiving, Independence Day, National Days and Similar Holidays

>The second category consists of communal celebrations that are not inherently religious. Yasir Qadhi's main examples are Thanksgiving and the Fourth of July, as well as national days and similar secular holidays.

>Here his conclusion is again that the Sharia is generally silent. He says that a Muslim may celebrate Thanksgiving, eat a turkey on Thanksgiving, spend time with family, or simply ignore the holiday. Likewise, a Muslim living in America can have a Fourth of July barbecue, take the children outside to watch fireworks, or otherwise enjoy the secular aspects of the day.

>He argues that Thanksgiving today is a generic American cultural celebration, not an inherently religious festival. He says that Christians, Jews, Muslims, atheists, agnostics and others can all participate in Thanksgiving. Unlike Christmas, where Christians generally celebrate and Jews generally do not, Thanksgiving is broadly shared across religious boundaries in American society. This is evidence that Thanksgiving is no longer functioning as a religious festival. He also says that someone can perfectly reasonably refuse to celebrate Thanksgiving for historical or ethical reasons, including concerns about colonialism and the treatment of Native Americans. But that would be a person's own ethical or historical judgment. He objects to turning such a judgment into an Islamic claim that “Allah has forbidden Thanksgiving.” His point is that the Sharia itself is silent about this type of secular personal or communal celebration.

>He does, however, introduce an important distinction between individual participation and religious institutions actively promoting a festival. Qadhi says that he does not think mosques and religious scholars should make secular holidays the major communal festivals of Muslim life. The two Eids should retain their special status, and Muslim children should primarily look forward to Eid al-Fitr and Eid al-Adha as their great religious celebrations.

>His example of the Fourth of July makes his point particularly forcefully. He asks whether Islam really tells a Muslim that he is sinful for inviting friends and family into his backyard for a barbecue on the Fourth of July, or for taking his children to watch fireworks. His answer is no. He regards those as ordinary secular activities rather than acts of religious worship.

>He also argues that every Muslim-majority country has national holidays and days off beyond the two Eids. Therefore, he considers it excessively strict to suggest that the existence of a national holiday automatically makes it a religious innovation.

>He is nevertheless cautious about the institutional encouragement of secular festivals. In his view, religious authorities should not make national days or other secular holidays into central features of Muslim religious life. There is also a potential danger that excessive celebration of national identity could turn into unhealthy nationalism. But again, that does not automatically make the holiday itself haram.

3️⃣ Religious Festivals of Other Faiths — Christmas, Diwali, Easter, Hanukkah and Similar Festivals

>According to him, Religious festivals belonging to another religion are not to be celebrated by Muslims.

>He gives Christmas, Diwali, Easter and Hanukkah as examples. His position is that Muslims should not adopt these festivals as their own celebrations or perform the distinctive religious customs associated with them.

>This is where he believes the strongest application of tashabbuh bil-kuffar exists. He says that imitating something that is uniquely religious, for example, participating in another religion's worship, adopting its distinctive religious symbols or celebrating its religious festival as a believer in that religion is prohibited.

🎄 Christmas: what exactly is prohibited? 🎄

>Yasir Qadhi is quite specific about Christmas. He says that Muslims should not celebrate Christmas as Christmas. He explicitly says Muslims should not bring a Christmas tree into their homes and decorate it as part of Christmas, because that is not merely observing somebody else's culture; it is deliberately adopting a symbol associated with their religious festival.

>He also distinguishes between celebrating Christmas and merely encountering Christmas in public. He says that if a Muslim walks past a house decorated for Christmas, watches Christmas lights, Christmas tree, Christmas parade or encounters Christmas decorations in a public setting, merely watching them does not mean that the Muslim has participated in Christmas.

>He therefore rejects the idea that Muslims have to behave as though they cannot even look at Christmas decorations. He gives examples such as seeing a beautiful church, stained-glass windows or Christmas decorations while passing through a public place. Merely observing these things does not amount to endorsing Christian belief.

>He also says that Christmas sales are permissible to take advantage of. Buying something because a store happens to be having a Christmas sale is not the same thing as celebrating Christmas. Likewise, he says there is nothing inherently wrong with buying ordinary products during the Christmas season.

>He does, however, draw a line between generic decorations and specifically Christmas decorations. He says that ordinary colored lights are not automatically Christmas symbols. But deliberately decorating one's own home around Christmas in a manner intended to participate in the Christmas atmosphere is problematic because it amounts to adopting a celebration that is not one's own.

🎄 Christmas parties and office celebrations 🎄

>He makes another important distinction between religious Christmas celebrations and ordinary workplace gatherings that happen around Christmas.

>He says that an office Christmas party is not necessarily a religious celebration at all. In a typical workplace, Muslims, Christians, Jews, Buddhists, atheists and agnostics may all be present. There may be food, gift exchanges and decorations, but there is no Christian worship taking place.

>For that reason, he says that simply attending a generic office party around Christmas can be permissible. The determining factor is what actually takes place there, not merely the calendar date. If the party involves alcohol, inappropriate dancing or another independently prohibited activity, then those activities are haram for their own reasons. But the fact that the office calls it a Christmas party does not automatically transform every aspect of the event into a religious ritual.

>He makes essentially the same point concerning campus and workplace events around Diwali. If a university or workplace has a generic cultural gathering with decorations and food, the mere fact that it happens around Diwali does not automatically make everything at the event religious participation. What matters is what the Muslim is actually doing.

🎄 Christmas and converts 🎄

>He says it can be unreasonable and even harmful to tell a convert that they cannot attend the one major annual gathering when their entire non-Muslim family comes together. A convert may have parents, grandparents, siblings, uncles, aunts and cousins who all gather at Christmas. For that person, attending can be an opportunity to maintain family ties and demonstrate Islam through their presence and character.

>He therefore says that a convert may attend a family Christmas gathering without that automatically meaning they are celebrating Christmas, provided they do not participate in the actual Christian religious rituals.

>If the family begins praying to Jesus, praying to God as part of a Christian religious ritual, or otherwise asks the Muslim to participate in worship directed toward other than Allah, Qadhi says the Muslim should not participate in that ritual.

>His distinction is therefore between family presence and religious participation. The convert can attend for the sake of family relationships, while refusing to perform the religious elements.

🎁 Christmas gifts and gifts from other festivals 🎁

>He says Muslims can accept gifts given to them because of another religion's festival. He points to reports about ʿAli and ʿAʾishah receiving gifts from Zoroastrians on Nowruz.

>His conclusion is that an ordinary halal gift can be accepted even if it is given on somebody else's religious holiday. The key distinction is between an ordinary social gift and something that has been specifically consecrated as an offering to another deity.

>Thus, receiving ordinary sweets, food or presents from a Christian colleague at Christmas does not automatically become haram merely because of the date. The contents themselves must still be halal.

🎄 Christmas greetings 🎄

>Yasir Qadhi is more cautious about Christmas greetings. He explains that scholars differ over whether saying “Merry Christmas” amounts to endorsing Christian beliefs. He presents the argument of scholars who prohibit the greeting, particularly the Ibn Taymiyyah-inspired argument that congratulating someone on their religious festival can be interpreted as congratulating them on their religious belief.

>But he also points out that other scholars distinguish between endorsing somebody's theology and simply wishing them well.

>His own practical recommendation is to avoid getting unnecessarily trapped in that debate. He does not declare in this lecture that “Merry Christmas” is definitively haram, but he recommends using a generic greeting such as “God bless you,” “Happy holidays,” or another neutral expression. In his view, this is a safer way of maintaining kindness without making one's position on a disputed theological question.

>So his Christmas position is not “anything associated with Christmas is haram.” Rather, celebrating Christmas as a Christian festival is prohibited, but observing decorations, buying ordinary products during Christmas sales, accepting ordinary gifts, attending certain non-religious office or family gatherings, visiting churches for non-religious reasons, and using generic goodwill are treated differently.

4️⃣ Gray-Area Festivals — Halloween

>The fourth category is the most complicated one, and this is where Yasir Qadhi's treatment of Halloween has evolved between his older and newer lectures.

>In his earlier lectures (2018), he described Halloween as a festival in the gray zone because it still had religious and pagan associations. He said there were still segments of society that treated it religiously and that Halloween retained associations with Satan, jinn and similar ideas. Because of that, he considered it difficult to place it clearly into either the fully secular or fully religious category.

>In the most recent lecture (2025), however, he explicitly says that Halloween is not currently a religious festival. No mainstream religion treats contemporary Halloween as its religious holy day, and ordinary people who celebrate Halloween are not generally worshipping a deity or performing an act of religious devotion (but he still keeps it in the grey area for another reason, which has been discussed below)

>This is an important distinction from his older presentation. His newer argument is that the ancient pagan origins of Halloween do not, by themselves, make the modern celebration a pagan religious ritual.

>He traces Halloween's historic roots to the ancient Celtic festival of Samhain, which had pagan religious elements and was associated with the end of the agricultural year and the boundary between the living and the dead. Christianity later transformed and reinterpreted aspects of the tradition, and Irish immigrants brought Halloween customs to America. He argues that the modern American form was then radically reshaped by American culture, commercialization, the candy industry, costume companies and Hollywood.

>He therefore says it is inaccurate to imagine that every modern child going trick-or-treating is literally continuing a two-thousand-year-old pagan ritual.

>He also discusses modern Wiccans and people who consciously celebrate Samhain. He acknowledges that such people exist, but argues that they are a tiny fringe minority and that their modern revival of Samhain is itself influenced by the modern Halloween tradition.

🎃 Why does he still think Halloween should be avoided? 🎃

>Although He now says that Halloween is not a religious festival today, he does not put it into the same category as Thanksgiving or the Fourth of July.

>The problem, in his present analysis, is that Halloween retains a strong association with demons, ghosts, evil spirits, the dead, jinn, the unseen world and supernatural horror. He says that every October, popular culture reinforces these themes through horror movies, ghost stories, demon imagery and similar entertainment.

>Thus, Halloween is not religious in the same way that Christmas or Diwali are religious, but it is also not completely neutral. That continuing association with the supernatural makes it a gray area.

>For this reason, Qadhi says that he personally would be much more comfortable describing Halloween as makruh rather than definitively haram, and he says Muslims should avoid actively participating in it. He repeatedly emphasizes that the word haram is very serious and should not be used casually.

🎃 What about children dressing as cartoon characters? 🎃

>He acknowledges that most children today do not necessarily dress up as demons or witches. They may dress up as cartoon characters, superheroes or fictional characters and go from house to house collecting candy.

>This makes the matter even more complicated in his view. He says that if Halloween were simply a children's costume-and-candy event with no connection at all to demons, ghosts or otherworldliness, he could imagine a different ruling.

>He even says that perhaps in ten or twenty years the supernatural dimension will disappear almost completely and Halloween will simply become a children's cultural celebration. If that happens, he says the ruling could change.

>But because the supernatural symbolism still exists today, he recommends avoiding active participation.

The underlying principle: Non Muslim/Pagan origin versus present meaning

>One of the most important principles running through all three lectures is that the historical origin of a practice is not automatically what determines its present Islamic ruling.

>If something originated as pagan worship but has completely lost that religious meaning and is now understood as an ordinary cultural practice, he says the ruling should reflect the current reality.

>His examples include mehndi, wedding rings, the names of the days and months, the Olympics, and yoga.

>He uses this reasoning to explain why he does not consider modern Halloween automatically pagan simply because ancient Samhain had pagan religious elements.

>The same principle is why he says Christmas could theoretically change category in the future. At present, he says, Christmas remains clearly Christian in its religious meaning, so Muslims should not celebrate it. But if, many generations from now, Christmas became entirely secular and lost its Christian association, he says the ruling would have to be reconsidered on the basis of its new meaning.

His understanding of tashabbuh bil-kuffar (imitating the kaafirs)

>Yasir Qadhi also repeatedly rejects the simplistic formula that “whatever non-Muslims do, Muslims cannot do.”

>He argues that tashabbuh requires something more specific: deliberately going out of one's way to imitate something that characterizes another civilization or religion and is not part of one's own cultural environment.

>He points out that the Prophet Muhammad ﷺ himself dressed, spoke and lived culturally like the Arabs around him, even though many of those Arabs were pagans. Therefore, Muslims cannot interpret the hadith “Whoever imitates a people is one of them” as meaning that Muslims must look, eat, speak and behave completely differently from the non-Muslims around them.

>He gives examples of Muslim societies adopting things from other civilizations, including food, technology and even cultural practices.

>He therefore argues that Muslims living permanently in America, Canada, Britain or other Western societies should not think that everything around them automatically constitutes tashabbuh. Their surrounding culture is also their culture, especially for Muslims who were born and raised there.

>But he still believes that religiously distinctive practices, such as celebrating Christmas as a Christian festival remain outside that cultural permission.

His understanding of Muslims having only two Eid

>He says that the hadith where the Prophet ﷺ came to Madinah, found the people celebrating two days from the days of Jāhiliyyah, and said that Allah had substituted for them two better days, Eid al-Fitr and Eid al-Adha is the main evidence used by scholars who prohibit other festivals. He accepts that it is a serious piece of evidence, but argues that it cannot establish a blanket prohibition on every kind of celebration. According to his usūl-based reading, the wording “Allah has substituted two days better than those two” does not explicitly say, “all other celebrations are haram,” so the maximum that can reasonably be derived from it is that Muslims should have only these two major communal Islamic religious festivals, and that other recurring communal festivals could potentially be regarded as makruh or discouraged rather than categorically haram. He emphasizes especially that the hadith concerns a communal celebration, because the people of Madinah were collectively celebrating those days; therefore, he says it cannot legitimately be extended to private celebrations such as a birthday party, a wedding anniversary, a graduation party, or a family gathering.

>He also challenges the assumption that the two pre-Islamic days mentioned in the hadith were merely secular holidays: it is equally plausible, he says, that they involved pagan religious elements, which would mean the Prophet ﷺ was specifically replacing Jāhiliyyah religious festivals with the two Islamic Eids. He further notes that Ibn Taymiyyah himself, whom later scholars frequently invoke in this debate, was discussing recurring communal festivals, not private individual celebrations, and Qadhi argues that modern Salafi applications sometimes extend Ibn Taymiyyah's argument beyond what his writings actually address. Thus, Yasir Qadhi's position in this lecture is that the hadith establishes a strong boundary around religious festivals and supports the idea that the Muslim community should have its two principal Islamic Eids, but it does not prove that every recurring secular or personal celebration is forbidden.

Links to the three lectures:

Does khimar simply mean a shawl or specifically a headcover? Many people claim that it's only a shawl but Nouman Ali Khan says that the Arabic word actually means a headcover, & gives example of the root word khamr (alcohol) & horses wearing khimar. So which one is correct?

I know a lot of people here believe that khimar mentioned in verse 24:31 means only a shawl, not a headcover. But Nouman Ali Khan here says that this is actually a misunderstanding because of the English translation. The translators translated it as a shawl but the actual Arabic word means headscarf. He explains that the root word khamr means alcohol, and alcohol messes up with your head - so therefore the word head is already in khimar. Then he gives example of horses with different hair color which were referred to as horses wearing khimar aka headscarf back then.

Those who believe that khimar only means shawl and not headcover, how would you address his arguments? I'm curious to learn

u/Eastern-Following571 — 3 days ago
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Why did Allah mention Khimar in Quran verse 24:31 if the intention wasn’t to command women to cover their heads?

Look at this picture first.

Imagine you are wearing your shirt like the picture on the left. You are told to draw your sleeves over your wrists. Would you understand that to be like the picture on the middle, where you extend your sleeve and cover your wrist with it? Or would you understand it to be like the picture on the right, where you pick up an armband or a piece of rag and cover your wrist with it? I think everyone will understand it to be like the middle picture, and not the right picture.

Now here's what 24:31 says:

>a وَقُل لِّلْمُؤْمِنَـٰتِ يَغْضُضْنَ مِنْ أَبْصَـٰرِهِنَّ وَيَحْفَظْنَ فُرُوجَهُنَّ وَلَا يُبْدِينَ زِينَتَهُنَّ إِلَّا مَا ظَهَرَ مِنْهَا ۖ وَلْيَضْرِبْنَ بِخُمُرِهِنَّ عَلَىٰ جُيُوبِهِنَّ ۖ وَلَا يُبْدِينَ زِينَتَهُنَّ إِلَّا لِبُعُولَتِهِنَّ أَوْ ءَابَآئِهِنَّ أَوْ ءَابَآءِ بُعُولَتِهِنَّ أَوْ أَبْنَآئِهِنَّ أَوْ أَبْنَآءِ بُعُولَتِهِنَّ أَوْ إِخْوَٰنِهِنَّ أَوْ بَنِىٓ إِخْوَٰنِهِنَّ أَوْ بَنِىٓ أَخَوَٰتِهِنَّ أَوْ نِسَآئِهِنَّ أَوْ مَا مَلَكَتْ أَيْمَـٰنُهُنَّ أَوِ ٱلتَّـٰبِعِينَ غَيْرِ أُو۟لِى ٱلْإِرْبَةِ مِنَ ٱلرِّجَالِ أَوِ ٱلطِّفْلِ ٱلَّذِينَ لَمْ يَظْهَرُوا۟ عَلَىٰ عَوْرَٰتِ ٱلنِّسَآءِ ۖ وَلَا يَضْرِبْنَ بِأَرْجُلِهِنَّ لِيُعْلَمَ مَا يُخْفِينَ مِن زِينَتِهِنَّ ۚ وَتُوبُوٓا۟ إِلَى ٱللَّهِ جَمِيعًا أَيُّهَ ٱلْمُؤْمِنُونَ لَعَلَّكُمْ تُفْلِحُونَ ٣١

>And tell the believing women to lower their gaze and guard their chastity, and not to reveal their adornments except what normally appears. Let them draw their veils over their chests, and not reveal...

https://quran.com/an-nur/31

It says "Let them draw their veils (khimar in Arabic) over their chests". It doesn’t say pick up a random piece of garment and cover the chests with it, but explicitly says to cover the chests with the khimar (scholars also include necks and ears). Why would the verse explicitly mention the khimar when it could have just said to cover your chests with any random cloth?

Going back to the sleeve analogy in the picture, if you understand the command of drawing the sleeves over your wrists to be covering your wrists with the sleeves like the middle picture, then why wouldn’t the commandment of 24:31 also be understood as covering the chest area (with necks and ears) with the khimar itself?

It's leaving me confused, would like to hear your answer

u/Eastern-Following571 — 3 days ago

What are your thoughts on this Youtube channel "Kaaba Chronicles"? He seems neutral at the first glance, but I'm not sure about that. Here’s an example video, he explains the differences between modernist & traditional Muslims from a neutral pov. But I have some question...[more in the description]

[Some of his other videos have been shared in the past couple of days on this channel, and they seem good at first. But after watching a video I'm not sure if I should watch his videos and help him gain more views, so I want your advice]

In this video he stays fairly neutral and explains the differences between modernist Muslims and Traditional Muslims, and describes how they see each other without passing any judgement. He basically uploaded the same topic again, titled Progressive Islam vs Orthodox Islam and that video was shared on this subreddit. In the comment section some comments pointed out to some subtle words which makes me think he isn't as neutral as he tried to present himself in the video.

So I decided to watch some other videos on his channel and I felt like he kind of criticizes everyone but not on the same level. In his Salafi vs Deobandi video he more harshly criticised Salafis but sounded kind of sympathetic to Deobandis, even when he pointed out that Taliban holds the Deobandi ideology he kinda watered it down saying not all Deobandi scholars support Taliban's extremism. He has separate videos solely talking about Deobandis and Salafis, in these videos too he holds salafi ideology responsible for ISIS and other Salafi extremist groups but doesn’t blame the Deobandis on the same level for Taliban. In his video explaining the 3 biggest orders of Sufism, I felt like he sympathized the most with the traditional Sufis without criticizing them, and instead mildly criticized the Salafists, Deobandis and Modernist Progressives for viewing Sufis as either deviants or backwards. Based on this I think maybe he is a Sufi? His videos on Shia branches didn’t make it seem like he is a Shia.

I looked at his older videos where he discussed more fiqh issues. He acknowledges the difference of opinions regarding musical instruments and drawing living animals & humans, but he thinks Muslims shouldn’t celebrate Valentine's day or Holi because of their non Muslim origins.

However, the important video I think is this one

In this video he mentioned Progressive Muslims at 1:06 with exmuslims and academic criticisms in the same breath. At 6:43 he said they either adopt progressive interpretation or leave Islam entirely in the same breath. Both times he mentioned Progressives together with apostasy! This leads me to the question, why? Does he not count Progressives or Modernists as Muslims at all and see them as stepping step towards apostasy? Because in his two other videos on Modernist and Progressive he didn’t pass any final judgement and stayed neutral, but as the other comments pointed out certain subtle wordings and sentence. And in this video he mentioned Progressives when he mentioned apostasy or exmuslims in a sentence.

Should I watch his videos (which will increase the view counts on his videos) or not? He doesn’t come off as outwardly hostile like most other mainstream speakers and at least tries to show neutrality, but mentioning Progressives with apostasy twice in this video - I don't like this. What's your advice?

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u/Eastern-Following571 — 5 days ago

Oh no, the horror 😱! Some Muslims in the west are integrating instead of forming their own ghettos & free mixing 😱!! [But on a serious note though, I do hope that the traditionalist conservative branches all die out, & Muslims become more forward thinking & rational minded]

u/Eastern-Following571 — 6 days ago
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What is the joke here?

She gets sent to the medieval period by the genie, and the medieval people hold torches after seeing her!? Why? And what is this even meant to be?

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u/Eastern-Following571 — 6 days ago

Is friendship with opposite gender really haram from an Islamic point of view? I have some questions that I need to be answered after watching this video, please read the description

I find this youtuber "Farah" annoying, but I need to ask you some questions after watching this video. Read the description if you don't want to watch the 38 minutes long video.

She mainly uses secular reasonings to argue that men and women can't be friends. She argues that men and women generally cannot maintain genuinely platonic friendships because emotional closeness and physical attraction can eventually create romantic or sexual feelings, particularly from men toward female friends. She uses audience responses, an old university interview, and a study on cross-sex friendships to argue that men are more likely to be attracted to their female friends, that women may knowingly maintain friendships with men who are attracted to them, and that such friendships can become “backup options” or interfere with future romantic relationships. She therefore views cross-sex friendships as more likely to create complications than benefits.

Then she argues that Allah is All-Knowing and All-Wise and therefore knows what is best for human beings even when people do not understand the reasoning behind particular rules. She claims that Islam does not prohibit men and women from interacting altogether, since they inevitably interact at work and socially, but establishes boundaries to prevent temptation and possible wrongdoing. She cites lowering the gaze, avoiding being alone together, avoiding flirtatious or deliberately attractive speech, but isn't it possible to have friendship while following these guidelines?

She also mentions keeping interactions purposeful rather than simply talking for companionship, and maintaining dignity and respect.

But she did not quote any Quran verse or hadith as a strong proof of friendship being haram from an Islamic perspective.

Keeping all her secular reasonings aside, from a purely Islamic point of view, is it haram to befriend someone of the opposite sex? If I have friends of the opposite sex, is it obligatory upon me to end my friendship with them, or no?

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u/Eastern-Following571 — 8 days ago

About modest swimsuits...

I think this swimsuit should be pretty modest based on how Dr. Khaled Abou El Fadl and Javed Ahmed Ghamidi (linked in the subreddit wiki article on híjab) described satr. But I'm worried about the wet clothes sticking to the body and revealing the shapes of bosom and gluteus area. Is it possible to prevent swimsuits from sticking to the body and revealing the body shape? Your advice would be appreciated

u/Eastern-Following571 — 13 days ago

অদূর ভবিষ্যতে সেনাবাহিনী ক্যু করে নির্বাচিত সরকারকে সরিয়ে দেশে সেনাশাসন প্রতিষ্ঠা এবং পরবর্তীতে শরীয়া আইন প্রতিষ্ঠা করার সম্ভাবনা কেমন? পাকিস্তানে জেনারেল জিয়া উল হক যেমনটা করেছিলো?

১৯৭৬ সালে তৎকালীন পাকিস্তানের প্রধানমন্ত্রী জুলফিকার আলী ভুট্টো জিয়াউল হককে সেনাপ্রধান নিযুক্ত করে এবং এর মাত্র এক বছর পর দেশজুড়ে ব্যাপক রাজনৈতিক সহিংসতার সুযোগ নিয়ে জিয়াউল হক ভুট্টোকে ক্ষমতাচ্যুত করে এবং দেশে সামরিক আইন জারি করে। ১৯৭৮ সালে জিয়াউল হক রাষ্ট্রপতির পদ গ্রহণ করে এবং গণমাধ্যম সেন্সরশিপ ও সামরিক আদালতের মাধ্যমে নিজের ক্ষমতা সুসংহত করে। পরবর্তীতে ১৯৭৯ সালে একটি বিতর্কিত বিচারের মাধ্যমে ভুট্টোর ফাঁসি কার্যকর করা হয়।

জিয়াউল হক ক্ষমতায় এসে পাকিস্তানের উচ্চ আদালতগুলোতে শরীয়া বেঞ্চ গঠন করে। পাকিস্তানে কঠোর ব্লাসফেমি/ধর্ম অবমাননার আইন দণ্ডবিধিতে যুক্ত করা হয়। রেডিও টিভি, সরকারী অফিস, শিক্ষাপ্রতিষ্ঠানে নারীদের জন্য মাথায় কাপড় দেওয়া বাধ্যতামূলক করা হয়। বিয়ে বহির্ভূত যৌন সম্পর্ক স্থাপনের শাস্তি হিসেবে অবিবাহিতদের ১০০টি বেত্রাঘাত আর বিবাহিতদের পাথর ছুড়ে হত্যা করার বিধান, মদ্যপানের জন্য ৮০ বেত্রাঘাত এবং চুরির শাস্তি হিসেবে হাত কেটে দেওয়ার বিধান চালু করা হয়।


বাংলাদেশে এরকম কিছু ঘটবার সম্ভাবনা কেমন বলে মনে করেন আপনারা? কিছুদিন আগে আমার পরিচিত কয়েকজন কথায় কথায় আলোচনা করছিলেন যে দেশের রিজার্ভে কিছু টাকা বাড়লেই বিএনপি সরকারের বর্তমান দুর্বল অবস্থা এবং আইন শৃঙ্খলার অবনতির সুযোগ নিয়ে হয়তো সেনাবাহিনী ক্ষমতা দখল করে মার্শাল ল জারি করে ফেলতে পারে, যেহেতু সেনাশাসন থাকলে বিদেশ থেকে আর্থিক সাহায্য আসে না সেই কারণে সেনাবাহিনী আপাতত চুপচাপ আছে কিন্তু রিজার্ভে টাকা আসলেই ক্ষমতা নিয়ে নিবে।

সম্প্রতি সেনাপ্রধান হজ করে আসার পরে দাড়ি রাখছেন, সামরিক অফিসারদের ধর্মীয় অনুশাসন মেনে চলতে আহ্বান জানিয়েছেন, চার খলিফার নামে সেনাবাহিনীতে নতুন ব্যাটালিয়ন গঠন করা হয়েছে, হঠাৎ করে শিখা অনির্বাণ নিভিয়ে দেওয়া হয়েছে - এত অল্প সময়ের মধ্যে এত দ্রুত এসব ঘটনা ঘটতে দেখা, আর তার ওপর সব সেক্টরে জামায়াতিদের আধিপত্য দেখবার পরে প্রশ্ন জাগছে মনে।

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u/Eastern-Following571 — 2 months ago

২০ বছরের সংসার জীবনের ইতি টানলেন জনপ্রিয় চিকিৎসক দম্পতি সুষমা-কুশল | Hospital Crisis | ATN News

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u/Eastern-Following571 — 2 months ago