u/EatYourVeggiesKid

I recently read about ElevenLabs startup, and they said, they expect from their sales people to bring 20x their salary (a person earning $100k/year is expected to bring $2mln for the company) or they are fired. Which personally, sounds like modern-day slavery.

That same article mentioned, that software houses typically generate 5-8 times what they pay their individual employees.

Have you ever encountered those estimates either in private discussions or in articles of reputable source?

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Btw. this estimate (5-8x) shows market value of the work you do. So if you're doing a freelance/consulting gig, your billable rate should be a multiple of your full-time employment hourly.

I recently read about ElevenLabs startup, and they said, they expect from their sales people to bring 20x their salary (a person earning $100k/year is expected to bring $2mln for the company) or they are fired. Which personally, sounds like modern-day slavery.

That same article mentioned, that software houses typically generate 5-8 times what they pay their individual employees.

Have you ever encountered those estimates either in private discussions or in articles of reputable source?

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Btw. this estimate (5-8x) shows market value of the work you do. So if you're doing a freelance gig, your billable rate should be a multiple of your full-time hourly.

I recently read about Eleven labs startup, and they said, they expect from their sales people to bring 20x their salary (a person earning $100k/year is expected to bring $2mln for the company) or they are fired. Which personally, sounds like modern-day slavery.

That same article mentioned, that software houses typically generate 5-8 times what they pay their individual employees.

Have you ever encountered those estimates either in private discussions or in articles of reputable source?

---
Btw. this estimate (5-8x) shows market value of the work you do. So if you're doing a freelance gig, your billable rate should be a multiple of your full-time hourly.

The press just writes general stories of 'AI layoffs didn't work and they are rehiring old employees.'

I wonder when those rehires happen, how many people negotiate salary bumps?

The press just writes general stories of 'AI layoffs didn't work and they are rehiring old employees.'

I wonder when those rehires happen, how many people negotiate salary bumps?

The press just writes general stories of 'AI layoffs didn't work and they are rehiring old employees.'

I wonder when those rehires happen, how many people negotiate salary bumps?

The press just writes general stories of 'AI layoffs didn't work and they are rehiring old employees.'

I wonder when those rehires happen, how many people negotiate salary bumps?

The press just writes general stories of 'AI layoffs didn't work and they are rehiring old employees.'

I wonder when those rehires happen, how many people negotiate salary bumps?

The press just writes general stories of 'AI layoffs didn't work and they are rehiring old employees.'

I wonder when those rehires happen, how many people negotiate salary bumps?

After spending 10+ hours setting things up (getting to know the interface, choosing a sign-up template and customizing it, learning how to use my domain and syncing it).

Then spending 40+ hours in 3 weeks creating content that links to my newsletter...

AND... ?

The landing page changes randomly on its own, after two weeks of me not touching it. It changes into random white background with absurdly scaled fonts. Looks like it was done by a 12 year old that started learning HTML.

I write to the them, they fix it. I don't change anything, I don't touch my website landing page on beehiiv at all... and what? In a week it happens again.

Imagine putting all that time to be that f**ed by a amateurish, incompetent company.

Stay away.

After spending 10+ hours setting things up (getting to know the interface, choosing a sign-up template and customizing it, learning how to use my domain and syncing it).

Then spending 40+ hours in 3 weeks creating content that links to my newsletter...

AND... ?

The landing page changes randomly on its own, after two weeks of me not touching it. It changes into random white background with absurdly scaled fonts. Looks like a 12 year old started learning HTML.

I write to the them, they fix it. I don't change anything, I don't touch my website landing page on beehiiv at all... and what? In a week it happens again.

Imagine putting all that time to be that f**ed by a amateurish, incompetent company.

Stay away.

In what types of situations you experienced it first hand?

Examples:

- Client: "I will leave a great review"

I don't pay in the grocery store with reviews.

- Client: "It's a simple job"

If it's so simple, do it yourself.

- Client: "Looking for someone that works quickly"

Seems like you don't have a budget for someone that works well.

What are yours "I would comment on those slave wages or tone-deaf 'negotiation tactics' but it would sound rude" ?

Examples:

- Client: "I will leave a great review"

I don't pay in the grocery store with reviews.

- Client: "It's a simple job"

If it's so simple, do it yourself.

- Client: "Looking for someone that works quickly"

Seems like you don't have a budget for someone that works well.

What are yours "I would comment on those slave wages or tone-deaf 'negotiation tactics' but it would sound rude" ?

Examples:

• "I will leave a great review"

I don't pay in the store with reviews.

• "It's a simple job"

If it's so simple, do it yourself.

• "Looking for someone that works quickly"

Seems like you don't have a budget for someone that works well.
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What are yours "I would comment on those slave wages or tone-deaf 'negotiation tactics' but it would sound rude" ?