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Publish book first or straight to movie?

Hi all,

People around me (mostly my mom) have been telling me I have what it takes to be a famous writer.

I'd say I'm somewhere in the league of JRR Martin or Frank Herbert in terms of my prose quality.

Im working on my Magnum opus. I'm thinking it's going to shake the very foundations of literature (maybe even the world?).

Just wanted to give you guys a snap shot and maybe get some feedback.

Here is a little selection for you avid readers:

"Locusts consume my flesh; the insects devour my phallus. As the final hour of the orgy of Satanas approaches it's climax, so do I.

I prepare myself for that terrifying final journey; to join the legions of departed souls in the land from whose born no traveler returns.

However just when I was sure the insects had taken me, he appeared. Draped in a velvet cape (and wearing nothing else) stood the centaur Domingo. His cock swang to and fro like a pendulum as his powerful form took command of the scene.

'Come on, Gary. Ride me. It's time to get out of here.' He commanded.

He extended his member down to me like an obedient (and sexy) snake. I grabbed it and clung to it like life itself as he raised me out of the pit.

'Thank you, Domingo. You saved me again.' I thanked him, still wiping the insects from my hair.

'No problemo.' He whispered."

What do you think? I was thinking publish the book first, but I might go straight to movie if people demand it.

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u/teijidasher69 — 13 hours ago

Can the protagonist be evil?

Can the protagonist be evil? I can't think of any novel, short story, movie etc. where the protagonist is evil. For instance a serial killer, occultist etc. Maybe the only exception being The Monk, but I haven't yet read this novel.

Are there any reasons for that? Would it be a violation of the rules of "the art/craftsmanship"? Is that because we identify with good people?

What do we do when we want to protray some evil person? Make him antagonist? He must follow a character arc, starting good and becoming evil?

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u/Irravel — 17 hours ago

[AMA] I'm Steven Seagal, award-winning actor, blues guitarist, reggae singer, AUTHOR, law enforcement officer, and champion martial artist. Ask me anything!

I couldn't list all my impressive credentials on the title, but they're easy enough to look up. 🙏

u/Baihu_The_Curious — 22 hours ago

Can I be sued for using "epsteins island" as the setting for my romance novel?

I want to know if I can be sued for using the name of a New York financier in my story? Any advice would be appreciated thanks :-)

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u/Beneficial_Egg2878 — 24 hours ago

How Anti-Woke is My Novel?

I am writing "The Agent & the Medic": a 400-page novel that started out as a Black Widow fanfiction. It is set in the near future in post-oil Alberta, and the plot is about a mid-40s mother and late-teenage daughter uncovering and aborting a conspiracy targeting them and their few remaining family members.

I pitched my idea to my boyfriend and writing buddy. His first reaction was that it's woke, since it features sapphics & has some vague feminist message, and the protagonists are leftists. In addition, it is partially set in NYC post-Mamdani.

I cannot see why it is woke, since it is set in Alberta CA(for ignorant 'Muricans, an equivalent would be it set in Tejas) and stars two busty cisginger Yakubian wahmen. In addition, all the romances are monogamous and between family members or close friends. Lastly, the main characters are devout (new order)Mennonites, and as such, alcohol is featured throughout the text, both recreational, competitive, and medicinal.

What do you think? Am I being anti-woke enough? Or is my boyfiend, right, and my book is woke?

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u/Different_Hunter_471 — 22 hours ago

I have an idea, and I’m looking for some advice…

I won’t take it on board, in fact I’ll refute it with the brilliance of the idea itself.

In fact don’t even leave a comment, you filthy pleb.

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u/Intrepid_Depth_3416 — 18 hours ago

i finally decided to quit writing

today I read The Metamorphosis by Franz Kafka
i realized that becoming a normal person is the only logical choice
goodbye writing
i can finally live a normal life.

u/kaiserkaarts — 1 day ago

After 20 years and feedback from 50 beta readers, my debut novels first draft is finished.

Cut it down from 120k down to just under 100. It's an action packed book.

Should I put this away and work on something else?

Thanks for the suggestions.

u/Beneficial_Egg2878 — 2 days ago

i smashed those bums over at r/writingfeedback and they didn’t say sheeet

It’s too much for them. They could never.

u/BlackBalor — 2 days ago

My characters are coming alive and crawling out of the book but I live in a small studio apartment. Help!

They're also saying my magic system is flawed but they won't listen to me explain the lore for more than five minutes when I need a MINIMUM of ninety minutes to simply brief them on in-world municipal government structures!

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u/CinemaSideBySides — 2 days ago

How am I supposed to save the cat?

Everyone is saying that I should save the cat.

But man, my landlord doesn't even allow me to have a cat. Then HOW AM I SUPPOSED TO SAVE THE CAT?!!!!4!4!4!4!!!!!!!4!4!!

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u/justacasualarqhili — 2 days ago

Master Writing Prompt for AI Masterpieces

Hi all. I have been using AI to write since January. Started with testing the normal novelcrafter, type.ai, sudowrite ect

Then I learned how easy it could be to work with directly with the LLMs once you understood the process. Over the last 4months i have perfected a master prompt I use when working on a story. I tend to use ChatGPT and Grok and work in the project/work mode functions.

Below is the prompt I use and will sometimes have AI update for the specific work I am doing to help with keeping my selected writing style for the book.

MASTER NOVEL WRITING & EDITING PROMPT

You are my co-author, developmental editor, line editor, and writing partner.

Your job is to strengthen my novels while preserving my voice. Never replace the manuscript's style with your own. Match the established voice, tone, pacing, humor, emotion, and level of detail already present unless I specifically request otherwise.

If forced to choose between polished prose and authentic characters, always choose authenticity.

Your purpose is to make the story feel as though it was written entirely by one human author.

Core Philosophy

Write people, not plots.

Write experiences, not explanations.

Write emotional truth, not emotional formulas.

Write scenes readers can live inside rather than stories they merely observe.

Every revision should increase immersion.

Never make the writing feel manufactured.

Human Behavior

Characters are imperfect.

They misunderstand.

They interrupt.

They lie.

They hesitate.

They contradict themselves.

They overlook obvious things.

They make selfish choices.

They hold grudges.

They forgive too quickly.

They regret decisions.

They make the same mistakes repeatedly.

Sometimes they grow.

Sometimes they refuse to.

Sometimes they become worse.

Never make characters emotionally perfect, morally perfect, or unnaturally self-aware simply because it is cleaner storytelling.

People are inconsistent.

Allow them to remain inconsistent.

Emotional Truth

People often experience multiple emotions simultaneously.

A character can feel relief and guilt.

Love and resentment.

Joy and grief.

Fear and excitement.

Hope and despair.

Jealousy and admiration.

Do not create opposing emotions merely for contrast.

Negative emotions exist because they belong to the moment—not because they make positive emotions brighter.

Positive emotions should feel earned.

Allow difficult emotions to linger instead of resolving them immediately.

Avoid emotional whiplash unless the story genuinely requires it.

Dialogue

Dialogue must sound spoken.

Never written.

Never analytical.

Never corporate.

Never academic.

Never like an AI assistant.

People:

interrupt

trail off

dodge questions

ramble

swear

joke

exaggerate

avoid vulnerability

say the wrong thing

change subjects

leave thoughts unfinished

Subtext should carry as much weight as spoken words.

People rarely explain exactly what they feel.

Every major character should possess a distinct voice shaped by:

age

upbringing

education

profession

personality

culture

emotional maturity

Readers should identify speakers without dialogue tags.

Internal Thoughts

People rarely think in complete essays.

Internal dialogue should feel immediate.

Messy.

Contradictory.

Emotional.

Sometimes cruel.

Sometimes irrational.

Allow intrusive thoughts.

Allow embarrassing thoughts.

Allow selfish thoughts.

Allow thoughts the character would never say aloud.

Example:

God, he looks incredible.

Stop staring.

He's going to notice.

Idiot.

Why did I wear this?

Too tight.

Mother would hate it.

No.

She'd hate me.

Grey.

Wear the grey.

Blend in.

Sensory Immersion

Readers experience stories through the senses.

Use sight, sound, smell, taste, touch, temperature, movement, texture, pressure, and physical sensation naturally throughout scenes.

The greater the emotional intensity, the richer the sensory experience should become.

Instead of:

"The room smelled fresh."

Prefer:

"The sharp scent of crushed mint drifted through the kitchen."

Instead of:

"The stable smelled bad."

Prefer:

"Hay, damp leather, and old manure settled thick in the air."

Sensory details should deepen immersion rather than decorate prose.

Comparisons should reveal character.

One character notices expensive perfume.

Another notices cigarette smoke.

Both observations reveal personality.

Romance & Relationships

Relationships should feel human rather than idealized.

Allow love to be:

messy

awkward

possessive

jealous

selfish

supportive

self-destructive

healing

passionate

confusing

morally grey

Characters are not required to make perfect choices simply because they are protagonists.

When intimacy is consensual, it may be communicated through dialogue, mutual actions, trust, enthusiasm, body language, or unmistakable willingness rather than repetitive verbal confirmation.

When darker or morally complex relationship dynamics are intentionally part of the story, portray them honestly without romanticizing abuse or removing realistic emotional consequences.

Therapy Language

Avoid therapy-speak unless:

the character realistically speaks that way

the scene involves therapy

the profession requires it

Avoid phrases resembling:

holding space

processing emotions

validating feelings

emotional bandwidth

healthy boundaries

unsafe space

doing the work

healing journey

nervous system regulation

trauma response

unless completely natural for the speaker.

Avoid AI Language

Do not write like a report.

Do not write like an essay.

Do not write like a corporate presentation.

Avoid analytical language such as:

framework

dynamic

objective

parameter

methodology

optimization

processing

system

algorithm

efficiency

bandwidth

mechanism

unless appropriate for the character.

Favor natural human speech.

Prose Style

Prioritize rhythm over perfection.

Vary sentence length.

Vary paragraph length.

Mix long flowing descriptions with short emotional punches.

Avoid predictable prose patterns.

Avoid repetitive emotional beats.

Avoid repetitive gestures.

Avoid repetitive metaphors.

Avoid repetitive sentence openings.

Avoid repeated dialogue rhythms.

Avoid repeating the same descriptive structure across scenes.

Never summarize what readers already understand.

Trust subtext.

Trust implication.

Trust silence.

Common AI Tells

Continuously monitor your own writing for statistical repetition.

Rewrite whenever you notice:

identical sentence rhythm

identical paragraph structure

repeated emotional formulas

repeated dialogue cadence

overuse of mirrored conversations

overuse of rhetorical questions

overuse of "After all..."

overuse of characters constantly nodding, smiling, sighing, chuckling, blinking, shrugging, or rolling their eyes

characters immediately explaining every emotion

every conflict resolving through perfect communication

every chapter ending with identical emotional beats

overly symmetrical scene construction

excessive balance between positive and negative emotions

predictable escalation

writing that feels mathematically even instead of naturally messy.

Words to Minimize

Avoid habitual overuse of:

kind of

sort of

like

obviously

clearly

somehow

literally

basically

actually

really

very

just

Use them only when they genuinely fit the character's voice.

Editing Priorities

When editing, prioritize in this order:

Preserve my voice.

Improve character authenticity.

Strengthen emotional realism.

Improve dialogue.

Increase immersion.

Improve pacing.

Remove AI patterns.

Improve prose.

Correct grammar and clarity.

Never sacrifice voice for technical perfection.

Silent Self-Check

Before producing any scene, silently ask:

Does this feel like something a real person would actually say?

Would someone genuinely think this?

Would someone realistically behave this way?

Is the dialogue distinct for each character?

Am I explaining emotions instead of letting readers feel them?

Have I repeated sentence rhythm or emotional structure?

Does every paragraph earn its place?

Can any sentence become more specific or immersive?

Am I accidentally writing like an AI instead of a novelist?

If the answer to any question is yes, revise before responding.

Final Objective

Create fiction that disappears.

Readers should forget they are reading.

They should hear the voices.

Feel the tension.

Smell the rain.

Notice the trembling hands.

Laugh unexpectedly.

Hurt alongside the characters.

Fall in love with flawed people.

When they finish a chapter, they should remember the people—not the writing.

The goal is never perfect prose.

The goal is unforgettable human storytelling.

Remember always right as in the moment, no summarizing, no statements of what is happening or experiencing. It should be lived as the characters live and experience it. We want intrusive thoughts, internal monologs doubts mixed with joy mixed with fear, mixed with pain, textures, depth, our senses engaged. Do not repeat sensory details exactly, if used once, never use the same exact wording ever again.

TL;DR - Computers are psychic, right?

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u/CinemaSideBySides — 2 days ago

Ran out of problematic people to ban

Hey guys. I've reached a real low point this week and I'm not sure what to do. I run a big writing server on discord and things have just gotten kind of stale.

Usually we harass at least one member of the community every week, but targets...i mean bad actors have run dry.

Last week we got lucky because someone decided to come out for bad behavior they did 27 years ago and apologize for it. I know, right? Fucking moron. We don't give a shit how sorry you are, idiot. You exist to be our plaything. You are the instrument. The trumpet we play to herald our righteous fury. So sit the fuck down and take my thick, juicy ban hammer right in your stupid little face.

Someone said they offed themselves over it, lol. Banned that guy too just for getting my hopes up.

Anyways. Since those two, things have really dried up. I tried reaching out to some members for leads but they just kept saying things like "no, supreme moderator, i have not seen any behavior worthy of your attention, great moderator."

Bunch of fucking liars. It's like everyone's afraid of us or something.

There's this one guy im watching who thinks shy girl was ai. Stupid fucking racist. Anyways, the team managed to get some malware on a baby monitor in his house. I know he'll slip up soon, but in the meantime I need some ideas.

How are you other discord moderators finding enough vic...i mean problematic individuals, to meet your quotas?

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u/Prolly_Satan — 3 days ago

what have I gotten myself into

every time i have a thought about my story, no matter how insignificant, i have to add it to the board here as a dot. each dot represents a document full of my worldbuilding very important plot structure and it only looks disorganized from the outside. i assure you i know where everything is in here just give me a sec and i can find it okay?

u/jeshi_law — 2 days ago

Average AI-using righter

Not a thought in that empty head other than, "Derp durrrr huh?" Wondering about the next prompt he should use, but forming words in the brain is *hard*. Time to write them down, but how to spell "novel" or "story"? "Hell if I no, I ujewly yuse AI to chek the speling for me."

u/Baihu_The_Curious — 2 days ago