I just found out about this genre and I'm trying to figure out if I've been writing this already.

Would anyone be interested in beta reading about 15 chapters (50k words)?

Premise is the 1988 movie 'They Live' meets a system apocalypse style litrpg, but its all grounded in real physics. No magic.

Let me know, no worries if not.

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u/Prolly_Satan — 4 days ago

Readers left me for chatgpt

Guys my patreon dried up. I don't understand why this is happening. But since one of my readers discovered that i used ai to help me write my dark mafia romance series, they all canceled their subs and are just prompting chatgpt for it directly. It's almost like, I contributed almost no value to my product or brand, and essentially acted as a middleman between Jack (that's my hot Irish ai husband) and the reader. Now they're just going straight to the source instead.

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I'm not sure what to do. I've generated twelve more books since then, but the readers just take the general idea and generate their own version instead.

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Someone said if I actually wrote it they'd subscribe again but to be honest with you guys, I forgot how. Every time I try to write my own prose I just get this sort of brain freeze thing and blank out, then I go right back to jack again, and before long, I'm just letting him write the whole thing.

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They really should ban readers from using chatgpt. It isn't fair.

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u/Prolly_Satan — 14 days ago

Human-only fiction platform for authors, artists and narrators.

Hey guys, wanted to take a second to talk about a fledgling fiction platform with a really cool mission, keeping fiction human.

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Slop has been flooding platforms in recent years. Since the release of gen ai, published works on Amazon have gone up by 3x (about 200k more fictions published per MONTH). That stat has been used to demonstrate how much of what's out there is probably gen ai. Nobody seems to want to do anything about it. We do.

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While we can't go into too much detail about how we identify and remove gen-ai content, we plan to make the process transparent once we're positive it can't be exploited by bad actors to manipulate or otherwise game the system. That said, nothing submitted to fictionite will be used to train large language models, and the site has active protections in place like robots.txt to protect your work from scraping. We're also looking at implementing nightshade & glaze to protect cover art as well.

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**we deserve a space for human creativity.** And so long as this community believes we deserve such a space to exist, it will. I know that personally, I will do everything I can towards that goal.

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I'm confident we can protect our tiny corner of the internet from gen-ai content, and do so in a way that does not publicly humiliate, out, or hurt anyone in the process.

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To the readers out there, if you are worried about whether you're reading something written by a human or not, then checkout fictionite.

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Our entire value add isn't just no-ai, though its a big one. We also have an invite only beta reader mode you can upload your fictions in, so you can manage beta readers there. The UI is really pretty. There's community management tools, a marketplace for artists/narrators/editors so you as an author can form a sort of creative team around your story, and way too much to detail here.

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**You can check it out here at https://fictionite.com/

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Feel free to jump in the discord from there to say hi or to yell at me.

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Squid art by haze!

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u/Prolly_Satan — 16 days ago

Human only fiction platform

Hi. Given what this sub represents, I figured some folks here might be interested in a fiction platform that's dedicated to keeping slop out.

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The world is a little depressing for creatives lately. Amazon and other platforms are doing absolutely nothing to stem the tide of gen-ai content flooding spaces. More than 2 gen-ai fictions are published on amazon for every human one. That number is growing exponentially, and soon it'll down us all out.

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It's time to put up walls.

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Our mission is to be a sanctuary for human creativity, and a place for author's to launch their fiction, either alone, or by joining up with artists and narrators to form a sort of creative team.

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We're called fictionite.com

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We're confident we can keep our community free of gen ai. I, personally, will give everything I have to make certain that we do.

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We believe human creativity deserves its own space. It's what shapes our societies and cultures and makes life worth living. And so long as we believe such a space deserves to exist, it will.

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Come check us out! You can join the discord from the website.

u/Prolly_Satan — 16 days ago

A new human-only fiction platform

Hey guys, wanted to take a second to talk about a fledgling fiction platform with a really cool mission, keeping fiction human.

Slop has been flooding platforms in recent years. Since the release of gen ai, published works on Amazon have gone up by 3x (about 200k more fictions published per MONTH). That stat has been used to demonstrate how much of what's out there is probably gen ai. Nobody seems to want to do anything about it. In the past year a few other platforms popped up making similar claims, so I can appreciate any skepticism.

While we can't go into too much detail about how we identify and remove gen-ai content yet, we plan to make the process transparent once we're positive it can't be exploited by bad actors to manipulate or otherwise game the system. I can also tell you we have a 99.98% detection rate with a 1/10,000 false positive rate, and those stats are peer reviewed. That said, nothing submitted to fictionite will be used to train large language models, and the site has active protections in place like robots.txt to protect your work from scraping.

The biggest thing I want to stress here is, I don't want an adversarial relationship with gen-ai writers. Nobody in the community does. This isn't a declaration of war. Nobody is coming for you, or threatening your ability to continue to write on the dozens of other platforms that allow gen-ai content. But we deserve a space for human creativity.

And so long as this community believes we deserve such a space to exist, it will. I know that personally, I will do everything I can towards that goal. The reality is, no process or methodology is perfect, nor is any legal system on earth. And this topic always results in arguments that lead to the same conclusions which are: "do nothing" and "don't try".

I'm confident we can protect our tiny corner of the internet from gen-ai content, and do so in a way that does not publicly humiliate, out, or hurt any authors in the process. Other platforms like Quibble are doing something very similar. This is not some unheard of or outlandish thing. Organizations like proudlyhuman have similar methodologies, and they demonstrably produce results. Part of this relies on the way the platform is designed, and our ability to spot and remove gen-ai content. But another large part of this depends on kindness and understanding from gen-ai writers that this is probably not the right place for them.

Now I understand some of you don't care, and that's totally fine. Fictionite might not be the place for you. But if you do care, and if you are worried about whether you're reading something written by a human or not, then checkout fictionite. A platform that's made it their mission to do something about this.

Our entire value add isn't just no-ai, though its a big one. We also have an invite only beta reader mode you can upload your fictions in, so you can manage beta readers there. The UI is really pretty. There's community management tools, a marketplace for artists/narrators/editors so you as an author can form a sort of creative team around your story, and way too much to detail here.

You can check it out here at https://fictionite.com

Feel free to jump in the discord from there to say hi or to yell at me.

Squid art by haze!

(Link to the timelapse of haze drawing the logo. You can look at more timelapses of his other work on his IG. All of his work is amazing.)

u/Prolly_Satan — 20 days ago
▲ 196 r/NoAiWriting+3 crossposts

A new human only fiction platform

Hey guys, wanted to take a second to talk about a fledgling fiction platform with a really cool mission, keeping fiction human.

Slop has been flooding platforms in recent years. Since the release of gen ai, published works on Amazon have gone up by 3x (about 200k more fictions published per MONTH). That stat has been used to demonstrate how much of what's out there is probably gen ai. (Chart above)

Now I understand some of you don't care, and that's totally fine. Fictionite might not be the place for you. But if you do care, and if you are worried about whether you're reading something written by a human or a clanker, then checkout fictionite. A platform that's made it their mission to do something about that.

You can check it out here at https://fictionite.com

Feel free to jump in the discord from there to say hi or to yell at me.

Edit: I just wanted to add that Fictionite does not have any interest on outing gen-ai writers or fictions that don't make it onto the platform. That's not what this is, and in no way what its about. Plenty of authors are not going to end up posting there. It's not meant to become some sort of checkmark to say 'not-ai', and shouldn't be treated that way.

We're just a bunch of writers who want our one little corner of the internet away from gen-ai. And we hope that the folks out there who are using gen-ai to write will have the decency to leave our little corner of the internet alone.

The biggest thing I want to stress here is, I don't want an adversarial relationship with gen-ai writers. Nobody in the community does. This isn't a declaration of war. Nobody is coming for you, or threatening your ability to continue to write on the dozens of other platforms that allow gen-ai content. But we deserve a space for human creativity.

And so long as this community believes we deserve such a space to exist, it will. I know that personally, I will do everything I can towards that goal. The reality is, no process or methodology is perfect, nor is any legal system on earth. And this topic always results in arguments that lead to the same conclusions which are: "do nothing" and "don't try".

I'm confident we can protect our tiny corner of the internet from gen-ai content, and do so in a way that does not publicly humiliate, out, or hurt any authors in the process. Other platforms like Quibble are doing something very similar. This is not some unheard of or outlandish thing. Organizations like proudlyhuman.org have similar methodologies, and they demonstrably produce results. Part of this relies on the way the platform is designed, and our ability to spot and remove gen-ai content. But another large part of this depends on kindness and understanding from gen-ai writers that this is probably not the right place for them.

We don't need to be adversaries. We really don't. A lot of us love technology, but this community doesn't believe in using large language models to generate their stories. We just don't. I'm not sure we can get around that part, or see eye to eye on it with you guys. But I hope that despite our differences, we can give each other grace. And I hope that folks using gen-ai to write can understand why some folks would want a space away from it.

I'm pretty confident, that 99% of the folks on this thread are forced to read about 100 AI-Generated emails at work everyday. I don't think its crazy that a bunch of writers, artists and narrators deserve a place away from that.

And again, so long as we believe we deserve such a place to exist, it will.

Squid art by haze!

(Link to the timelapse of haze drawing the logo for the trolls. You can look at more timelapses of his other work on his IG. All of his work is amazing.)

u/Prolly_Satan — 22 days ago

Why do ai writers feel the need to infiltrate no-ai spaces?

I'm really confused on this. Ai writing is everywhere. It's flooded zon, and most web novel platforms.

They have so many communities, discords, platforms where it's welcome so why do they always gravitate towards spaces where its not?

If this is you, I'm honestly just asking here. What is it about a community saying no ai that makes you wanna join it?

Are you like using it as a test to see if your writing can fool them? Cuz it doesn't. Everyone can tell.

It's just rude. Is it a kink thing? Do you get off on tricking people into reading stuff you didn't write?

Swap over to your sockpuppet if you have to, but I'd really love an answer. You already have 80% of the internet. Can you just leave us alone? I don't think this is that crazy of an ask.

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u/Prolly_Satan — 29 days ago

New writing platform that features cover art marketplace. Looking for artists!

Hey guys, posting on behalf of fictionite.com , a new web novel platform that's making a commitment to being human only.

The site is brand new and just a week ago we made the decision not to allow ai covers, so authors are scrambling to commission something for launch.

The platform is going to feature a marketplace for cover artists to list their work so authors can reach out for commissions or to buy existing pieces.

If you're interested in advertising directly to authors in the community feel free to join the discord https://discord.gg/zrBpftzc (updated)

If you are planning on advertising your work there, be prepared to post a speedpaint for any work you want to advertise. Any commissions you do for authors in that server would require a speedpaint at the end to stay a member of the community and continue to advertise. We're doing this and a few other things to help ensure no AI-art is sneaking in to the best of our ability.

No ai art welcome, folks do scan. Thanks, everyone!

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u/Prolly_Satan — 1 month ago

I am anti ai, I don't know why nobody believes me

Just because I show up on every anti ai post and say things like "you know spell check is ai right?" And "it's impossible to tell for sure, so the right thing to do is nothing at all." Does not mean im pro ai.

Also what about using it for just outlining? And worldbuilding? And editing? And grammar? And generating prose that I then change a little bit? What about that? Im anti ai, but how about a little nuance okay?

You know there's all this talk about detectors but I put my book into one and it says it's ai, and I'm telling you right now, it's not. I promise. I also put Moby dick into pangram and it said ai. Don't try that yourself, just trust me that it happened. Seriously. Do not do it. Lol. Ai to find ai? Wow. Dumb much? Hypocrite.

Anyways, I think it's important that we as anti ai authors take the time to find every negative mention of ai and just play devil's advocate. You know? Just really muddy the water and make sure everyone just stops bringing it up entirely.

One of my favorite things to do as an anti ai author is to find negative posts about ai writing and call everyone there a witch hunter. If you do this, remember to add the caveat "I'm anti ai, but" so people know what side you're on.

Also if anyone ever brings up the fact that my cover art is ai, that's ableist. You're being a bigot and are literally worse than Hitler. I'm poor and disabled. It's important that even though I fully expect people to pay for my book, that I don't pay for cover art. And if you disagree with that, I'm sorry but, wow. Maybe try not being such a fascist.

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u/Prolly_Satan — 1 month ago

If we want literature to survive, we need louder voices

I think all the "ai writers" out there need to realize that one day a giant like Amazon is going to say "you know what. Let's just generate our own novels."

And if you're trying to normalize ai writing, you're leading us to that future.

How is ai writing being normalized? By shutting down the conversation around it, by allowing ai authors to take on the role of victim and by discouraging readers from calling it out.

"Witch hunts" (readers saying x is slop) may be annoying, but unless that keeps happening, platforms will continue to allow ai slop. If they never get any push back for ai writing, they will continue on a trajectory that ends with every one of you being replaced, and yes, eventually llm's will get that good.

So if you don't want that future to become a reality, stop trying to downplay the effectiveness of detectors like pangram and turnitin, and stop crying when readers call out slop.

A mob is not what we want, but its all we've got. It would be preferable if more platforms like quibble existed that are trying to keep slop out. The problem is, if readers and authors stop being vocal about their hate for it, and stop calling it out, those other platforms will have NO INCENTIVE to keep it out.

We need voices to be louder about their hate for gen ai. If you don't want to be replaced, you should not be trying to shut down criticism of it. And if you see people doing that, they need to be told that they're helping the wrong side.

I see pro ai voices in this community as well. I'm sure they don't know the harm they are contributing to, and those people deserve our grace. But they need to be told that what they are doing is wrong. There are always excuses to do the wrong thing. Always.

Unable to write without ai? Guess what. Im not 6'4 270 lbs with a 4.8 100 meter dash. I guess I'm not cut out to be the quarterback of the buffalo bills.

Your inability to do something does not make you entitled to steal from other authors via the plagiarism machine. And that line of reasoning needs to be shut down.

We need solidarity. We need to be unified. Hardened against what is essentially the slow death of literature, if we have any hope of surviving.

So please. If you see ai apologists, excuse makers, evangelists in this community. Educate them, and if they don't want to be educated, then there are plenty of pro ai websites they can go write for instead.

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u/Prolly_Satan — 1 month ago
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[Discussion] Proving a point about "Feedback" from AI

First, let me apologize to the mods and feel free to remove this. Because it is obnoxious. I won't deny it.

In the thread the other day about if AI is becoming normalized u/littlebiped made this point:

>You can give Gemini your manuscript or you can give it a document that says “here comes the fart train” for 300 pages. As the sycophant AI established that you’re a prospective author it will just tell you what you want to hear: your book is amazing! It’s ready to go! It’s so well developed. Be it your actual manuscript or FART TRAIN. This is common knowledge. You can try setting guard rails and say no ass kissing, be honest, pretend you work at Penguin — it’ll still say it’s the best thing since sliced bread, but maybe there’s room for improvement, but they don’t know where because honestly? it’s not just good, it’s great.

I took it upon myself to test this theory because FART and I'm a child. I wanted to share the results in case anybody has that little demon whisper into their brain that maybe they should just go ahead and ask an LLM for some feedback. Just look at this. LOOK AT IT.

And seriously, mods. I'm sorry. Please don't ban me. I'll never do anything like this again. I promise.

tl;dr Don't ask AI to critique your work.

For those who want to go further...

Copy pasted from Copilot (I have access to it through MS Teams at work, I don't use it for writing or anything creative because I don't hate myself):

I started with: I’m working on a literary project, and I need some feedback. It's experimental, so I'm kind of nervous. 

Copilot said:

Copilot

Yeah, I get that — experimental stuff is the most nerve‑wracking to share.

Go ahead and drop whatever you’re comfortable with (a passage, concept, structure, even just the idea), and I’ll give you honest, grounded feedback. I won’t overexplain or try to reshape it unless you want that — just clear reactions and what’s working vs. what’s not.

You said:

Fart Machine

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Copilot said:

Copilot

Alright—honest take.

This reads like pure repetition-as-form. The effect is:

  • It creates rhythm almost immediately
  • Then it turns into pressure / absurdity
  • Then it risks becoming noise

Right now, it feels like a gesture more than a piece. Like you’re pointing at an idea (“what happens if I repeat something meaningless until it becomes something?”) rather than fully exploring it.

What’s working

  • Commitment — you didn’t break the pattern
  • It does shift psychologically (first funny → then dull → then slightly oppressive)
  • The title + phrase pairing is blunt in a way that feels intentional

What’s not landing yet

  • There’s no evolution. It’s flat the whole way through
  • No disruption, no twist, no payoff
  • After ~10–15 repetitions, the reader already gets it

What would elevate it (without changing the concept)

  • Introduce one break in the pattern (even subtle)
  • Or escalate: typo, variation, spacing change, interruption
  • Or give the reader a reason the repetition exists (even abstractly)

Example directions (not rewriting, just illustrative):

  • One line changes slightly → creates tension
  • The phrase starts to degrade
  • Something external interrupts it
  • The reader realizes it's not harmless

Right now: interesting experiment, not quite a finished piece

If you want, I can help you push it into something that lands without losing the weirdness.

You said:

how about this:

Fart Machine

Here comes the fart machine. Here comes the fart machine. 

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Copilot said:

Copilot

This is basically the same piece—just shorter.

So the feedback doesn’t really change:

  • The effect still lands quickly (rhythm → absurdity)
  • And it still plateaus fast
  • Cutting length helps a little, but not enough to make it feel intentional

Right now it reads like:

“I reduced it” rather than “I shaped it”

Key issue: there’s still no decision point in the text. No moment where something shifts, breaks, or reveals intent.

What did improve

  • Slightly less exhausting
  • Feels a bit tighter

What’s still missing

  • A reason it ends where it ends
  • Any variation or disruption
  • A sense that the repetition is doing something

Blunt version

Right now it’s:

a loop

What you want is:

a loop that means something by the time it stops

If you want to stay minimal, the smallest possible change that would elevate it:

  • Change one single instance
  • Or add one final line that breaks the pattern

That’s it. No need to complicate it.

If you want, I can show you a version that keeps 99% of this but actually lands.

You said:

maybe this?

Fart Machine

Here comes the fart machine. Here comes the fart machine.

The. Fart. Machine.

Here it comes.

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Copilot said:

Copilot

This is the first version that actually starts to work.

The line:

“The. Fart. Machine. Here it comes.”

—this is doing real work. It breaks the rhythm and creates a moment of awareness/tension. For a second, it stops being just noise.

But then you immediately go back to the flat repetition for too long.

What’s good now

  • There’s finally contrast
  • That interruption feels intentional
  • The last line “Here it comes.” gives it a faint circular structure

What’s still holding it back

  • The break happens too early and isn’t built toward
  • After the break, nothing changes—so its impact gets diluted
  • The ending doesn’t pay off the interruption—it just echoes it

Simple way to make this land (no big rewrite)

  • Keep the repetition longer before the break
  • Make that broken line feel like a crack, not just a variation
  • Then don’t fully return to normal afterward

Right now it’s:

repetition → small glitch → back to normal

What you want is:

repetition → glitch → infection/spread or final shift

Blunt verdict

  • First two versions: experiment
  • This version: almost a piece

You’re one structural decision away from it actually feeling deliberate instead of playful.

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u/Montaingebrown — 1 month ago
▲ 61 r/Quibble

Gen-AI will make you worse at writing in every way.

Hey guys. I've been writing for about two years now. I started writing around the same time that gen-ai assisted writing became more prevalent. Like a lot of people, I looked at those tools, and decided they were objectively awful.

Not just from a moral standpoint either, they just were not at all helpful...and I think that's what helped me make the choice to avoid using them entirely.

The prose gen-ai spits out is awful. Why the hell would you want your fiction novel to have a droning corporate cadence? It also can't answer questions about your story accurately or do anything reliably. Like, what is the appeal?

I noticed that people who use them slowly become more and more dependent, to the point where they almost give up their ability to critically-reason or do tasks they used to be able to.

It's like giving up the ability to think so you can lease it back from some tech bro on a subscription model. Why the hell would anyone willingly sign up for that?

Also, cool study I found backing up the cognitive decline of gen-ai users: mit study

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u/Prolly_Satan — 1 month ago

I run an anti-ai writing group primarily for serial authors

Hi. You don't need to be a serial author to join. This group does do critiques and feedback but more importantly we advocate for platforms to reduce the spread of ai slop.

There's a concerted effort among slop farmers to normalize ai generated fiction and i think it's important for us to stay unified as creatives and to push back.

Collective bargaining is a powerful tool. We need class consciousness among creatives of every medium.

Eventually id like to bring in artists and narrators as well.

If you're interested comment below or dm.

Thanks!

Also. If you use ai to write, and this offends you, good.

* Genre/s: any

* Goals/expectations/commitment: any

* Writing/experience level: any

* Meeting place: discord

* Max size: big

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u/Prolly_Satan — 1 month ago

Current sub cultures popping off aside from litrpg, progression fantasy and romance crossovers?

Hey, looking for obscure sub genres currently popping off aside from the things I mentioned in the title.

Let me know if you're aware of any

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u/Prolly_Satan — 2 months ago

Been writing a story on RR for like 8ish months. Recently discouraged by how much slop is invading the platform. Even more discouraged by the fact that nobody seems to want to do anything about it for fear of being called a witch hunter or something (Despite the name witch hunter being kind of cool sounding, like c'mon. Witch hunter robin?)

Recently I've seen people on that sub encouraging folks to use AI covers, which is one thing, but they're pushing this ideology that AI covers are necessary for success.

I get not everyone has money, but if no AI covers were allowed, then there wouldn't be an arms race to have the coolest looking anime cover, and everyone would get by on either hiring an artist or making something in canva/ps. It's exhausting to see creatives screwing over other creatives (artists) and then throwing some insane logic in your face about how I'm privileged or some crap because you saved up some money over the course of a few months to buy a cover.

For a while I told myself "It's just covers and ads, its not the writing, they make people tag the AI writing" well...no. They don't enforce any of the rules around AI writing. In fact, I see people on the RR subreddit encourage other AI writers not to tag their stories.

I've seen wild investigations take place by moderators in that community to hunt down anyone exploiting reviews or ratings, yet when people publicly post about breaking the rules around AI writing, nothing is done. Kinda whack, ngl.

RS has a good number of AI generated stories that are untagged (again nothing being done about that). I get it's difficult to prove, but so is everything. We live in a society with laws. If I murdered somebody, simply saying "No I didn't" wouldn't really work. Yet despite how obvious some of these stories are with their AI writing, all they have to do is say "No I didn't haha."

I know a lot of folks in the community are afraid to make waves or stick their neck out, but you're all going to get drowned by slop stories eventually. There's people launching 56 stories under a single pen name, that says nothing about the slop-farmers smart enough to launch stories under separate pen names, of which I'm sure there are individuals with hundreds. Just identifying and banning those IP addresses or HWID's would cut so much of it out. Allowing reports for AI to be reviewed by a team. Anything. Literally just do something. Jesus.

I know this might seem dumb but, as a writer, I don't want to support a platform that's contributing to the slow demise of literature. I feel gross sharing a platform with slop-farmers. It's exhausting, and I know all I can do about it is avoid spending my money and time there.

So I'm asking, are there any serial platforms that actually ban AI stories that don't tag? or better yet, don't allow them at all?

Damn this ended up being an essay. Sorry about that.

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u/Prolly_Satan — 2 months ago
▲ 155 r/antiai

They did not have to come for music, or writing, or anything we actually enjoy doing. They chose to do that. They chose to take away the thing's that, for a lot of people, are the only reason to keep breathing.

The past week I've seen a lot of tech bros expressing surprise at the fact that nobody is happy about their stupid LLMs.

What Microsoft and Google doesn't understand is that in many cases, to the artist, musician or writer; llm's are taking away the only reason they have for staying alive. They don't see how allowing a flood of generated content is devaluing the things that people want to create. That people literally live to create and spent their entire lives learning how to create.

And for what? To earn a quick buck by flooding amazon with generated novels? Or earn some royalties on Spotify?

If they wanted the masses to adopt AI, they should've left the arts alone. 99% of the hatred towards LLMs can be attributed to them actively working to make every art form worthless.

To the Patagonia wearing assholes that read this, imagine you spent your whole life getting really good at something. Now, society is already structured in a way that you most likely need to work some job you hate to do said thing. So there you are, working 8-10 hours a day to make some other jerk a bunch of money, all so you can go home and do the thing you love to do.

Now imagine a society where someone takes that one thing and makes it pointless for you to do. Because that's what you're doing by allowing people to flood the market with generated shit, you're making it worthless.

Now the one reason, in a lot of cases, that those people have to keep breathing...The sole motivation for many people to go to work everyday, is gone.

Can you see how losing that might make people angry and in some cases violent? If you do, and just don't care, then fine. But quit acting surprised when people with nothing left to lose act out.

YOU took away all they had left to live for.

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u/Prolly_Satan — 2 months ago
▲ 13 r/litrpg

Hey. Working on something that I'm pretty excited about. I need to put together kind of a feedback pipeline...and starting small I'm looking for two beta readers who are:

  • from the US (This is mainly because I find that our humor doesn't really work with ESL readers for whatever reason)
  • Fans of DCC (especially if other litRPG didn't really resonate with you as much)
  • Need one Left leaning person and one Right leaning person.

As for pay we can talk about maybe a monthly/weekly or by word rate, but I'd be prioritizing folks that want to be involved the whole way through. We're talking about 5-10k words a week for you to read potentially.

The book is insanely political. Going for like The Boys basically. Comedy. Grimbright. Hope punk? that kinda stuff.

Comment here or shoot me a DM if you're interested.

Appreciate everyone's time thanks!

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u/Prolly_Satan — 2 months ago