u/Huge_Candy748

For some reason, I feel like a lot of Ronaldo fans prefer the idea and image that marketing created around him. You know — the whole “hard work and discipline” narrative. And yeah, I admit his discipline in maintaining his physique is impressive, but a lot of footballers train extremely hard and never received even half the marketing he did for it. For example, many people act like Messi doesn’t even train, when in reality he’s also very disciplined. Then there’s the whole “winner mentality” thing. But when he lost a second-tier tournament as a veteran player, instead of staying to accept the runner-up medal, he left. And I saw a lot of people defending him by saying he just had a “winner mentality.” And then there are the edits people make of Ronaldo, where they basically combine multiple plays from different matches just to make everything look more dramatic and impressive. So are they really defending CR7 himself, or are they defending the idea of CR7 that was sold to them? Almost like they want to be that type of person, and for some reason they project themselves onto him, so when someone insults him, they feel personally attacked too. I don’t know if I’m explaining myself clearly.

At least in my case

1 — Make it clear from an early episode that he’s the villain. 2 — Show at least one death caused by him. Not necessarily getting his hands dirty himself, but making it obvious that he’s a manipulative, sadistic psychopath. 3 — Explore his leadership over his accomplices and followers more. 4 — Develop his backstory and his relationship with Emily Birch further. It was disturbing and unsettling, and it really gave off “Stockholm syndrome” vibes.

Part of me likes to think that something similar happened to barrels as to GTA diamonds IV

Where after so much death and drama in the end a tramp gets the diamonds

It would be quite funny and poetic That after all the garbage and death that was in those barrels So that none of those involved enjoy them and some random is the one who Get it and enjoy it by being in the right place at the right timeGet it and enjoy it by being at the right time in the right place

I mean, Joe has several pretty good intelligence scenes, especially in season 4

But come on most of his murders is pretty stupid and depends a lot on luck

Like when they tried to get rid of Benji or in the fact that Beck would have survived and escaped if it weren't for Paco helping Joe

Even his greatest victim in terms of importance, Tom Lockwood conveniently had very little security at the end of the day.

I say this because today there are people who believe that Joe is at the level of dexter and especially of guys like Red John or Hannibal and they treat the Joe of season 4 as a criminal mastermind

Come on, even the plan against love had a big flaw, obviously the antidote didn't work immediately, so if love had wanted him dead from the beginning instead of talking in a plan, he would have failed

In my case after season 1 and half of season two

I thought Joe was going to become some kind of dexter and Love would be his rita, Until all the atrocities he did before finally exploded

After it was revealed that Love was crazy, I thought they would become serial killers, vigilantes and a toxic hot couple with ups and downs but together raising their son

Until again finally all the atrocities Joe did in Season 1 explode in his face, with Love dying either as his complicit partner or as his killer in an act of redemption

Now that I look back on it, I think the part where Joe looks for the pedophile, what was going for Ellie, made me think that the guy could really change lol

First of all, I clarify that regardless of whether or not he is redeemable, that does not mean that Joe is not a disgusting stalker and serial killer

But I think this is the only "good" thing he did, I would tell about Ellie if it weren't for the fact that between him and love they were in charge of up her life

But Paco's could be said to have improved her although she had one or another trauma, what do you think

They believe that 279 will be their real number of Victims

Because seeing how impulsive trinity really was, I wouldn't be surprised if he killed many more just because he got upset

If criticizing people who think it's a great idea Seriously, to this day I wonder why many see this theory as a masterpiece

If it turned out to be true, it is a matter of watching the program to know that it would have a huge and absurd amount of inconsistencies

Sometimes I think people like that idea simply because Red John didn't turn out the way they expected

If Patrick Jane had been Red John, the entire series would be a guy chasing himself while emotionally ruining his own life just to maintain an unnecessarily complicated performance. It sounds cool in theory but come on, it would be poorly executed

Now that I'm rewatching the series

I realized that almost every time we see muscle man's past the guy is someone successful and Popular

And in output 9b you can see that the guy could be a university teacher

Seriously, what the hell happened to end up like it endedSeriously, what the hell happened to end up the way it ended

I’ll admit, I expected something like a Patrick Bateman-type figure mixed with a cult leader. A rich, intelligent psychopath who, deep down, was still just a spoiled daddy’s boy with way too much free time and a fragile ego. And to be clear, I thought this before it was revealed that Red John had been killing for decades.

1. “YOU’RE WRONG, me debate you and tell you how things really are: your ‘analysis’ is very wrong. Joe did not kill Love because he saw that Love was not weak, and that is the part many people misinterpret. Joe killed Love because he saw that she only killed on a whim or out of possession, and not for real reasons like Joe does. He killed her to protect his son Henry and Marianne. I hate when people make cheap analyses based only on the superficial.”

2. “Honestly, I do not understand how there are ignorant people who do not even know how to analyze Joe. Joe always loved his partners and NEVER saw them as a copy of his mother, who, if they did not fit his supposed ‘idealization,’ he killed. Joe always loved his partners, but everything always went wrong. With Beck, he killed her by accident because he wanted her to stay still and squeezed her neck too hard, and he...”

3. “What? You’re wrong, dude. The one who does not know the character is you. Joe’s way of loving is not toxic, and much less obsessive. If it were, Joe would kill Beck as soon as he saw her again, just like Love was with Joe. I recommend watching the series called ‘La Reina de Lágrimas’ because there appears a character there who does love in a TOXIC and OBSESSIVE way.”

4. “It is so ridiculous how ignorance can be so huge that people do not pay attention to the details. The only thing Joe admits is that he likes killing ABUSIVE people; he says so at the beginning of 5x01 when he is in the bathroom. He is not like Dexter, who had to control his ‘impulses’ to kill. The only thing he said was that he missed killing ABUSIVE people, and he felt like the urge to kill...”

5. “[Partially cut off / not fully readable in the image:] ‘Hallucinations, with Love... was she dangerous, Mary... because of Joe’s dissociation... and it was all his fault... do you want me to... better? I’m a psych... all I’m saying is that your analyses are wrong.’”

6. “Because of his dissociation caused by extreme stress, he had to accept that he liked killing bad people, because Joe was afraid of imagining that he liked that and of becoming a killer ‘for no reason,’ as you say, but in the end that was not the case and he ended up being selective with his victims. As for Beck, he always regretted it, and even in 5x01, when he returns to his bookstore, he remembers Beck and how they met, and he had a look of sadness when remembering her, which only supports my point about...”

7. “...what happened to Joe was that he did it because people misinterpreted him, and that in the end Joe followed his ‘real’ ca...” (cut off in the screenshot)

8. “...nonsense in a public place, the same with Joe: at that moment he felt the ‘desire’ to kill that guy who was there in the bathrooms with Joe because he was a guy who had wanted to hurt Kate, and the fact that he wrote it as fantasies of how to kill Bob or some other... ‘Beck? I’ll show you’ was more like to scare her and enjoy seeing her face of fear, a way to vent the frustration caused by Bronte. Literally, Joe found out that Bronte was only with him because of the Beck case, and that is why he got too angry, especially when he saw that because of...”

At least in my case when he slept with Sarah Lyn I assume that if the series continued it would be that type where there would come a point where all the shit that the protagonist did explodes in his face

I'm curious if it's something that the series included or if it's also in the book

I see it as very likely that it happened in the book since I heard that that Joe is more evil and pathetic than the one in theI see it as very likely that it happened in the book since I heard that that Joe is more evil and pathetic than the one in the series

In my case it was when Eliot and his wife offered him a job and he rejected it because he felt slighted

I mean, you're capable of killing someone and getting into drug trafficking for your family, but you're not able to leave your ego and accept a much safer job, bro.

Admito que la única razón por la que quería que fuera Red John era para poder contar chistes con Val Pelt.

Primero Dan Hollenbeck, luego Craig O'Laughli

Y finalmente el Jefe Red John

Habría sido una mierda tan dolorosa como graciosa.

First of all you're both a shitty person

But seriously, sometimes it surprises me how it is that there is never a consensus that both were horrible people and they spend their time justifying one while demonizing the other

I Say Love already had two victims before she met Joe

And Joe is Joe ​

For me it's the second, the murder of Bosco and the "tiger tiger" scene They are spectacular

The Red John of the first two seasons was extremely scary

>!At first, the reveal disappointed me. Over time, I understand the message, and I’ve grown to like more and more that Thomas McAllister was Red John. Except for the screen time—come on, he’s your main villain. You already spent a good part of the series building him up, making it hard to actually see him in action. We should have finally gotten a full season showing a real face-off between Red John and Patrick Jane. I rewatched episode 3 of season 6, and Xander Berkeley does an exceptional job. They should have given him more screen time. Maybe not explain his origin, but at least show some of his crimes and atrocities before finally giving him an ending that shows how pathetic and cowardly he really was. I feel like they completely wasted an excellent actor!<

>!&#x200B;!<"I don't want to sound like one of those idiots, Morena Baccarin is a very beautiful woman. But for some reason, in this role, I never understood why all the men in the series were crazy about her. She didn't strike me as particularly charismatic, or dominant, or smooth-talking, and for some reason I don't understand, not even exceptionally beautiful or sensual, even though Morena Baccarin is exceptionally beautiful and sensual."