u/Iced-TeaManiac

Every other playerbase tells you their character sucks. There's the questionable idea that if you call a character shit enough, Netease will hear and it'll lead to buffs. And so they run slander campaigns for their character. There is no "underrated", "untapped potential", it's just "sucks and needs buffs"

Fantastic players on the other hand, try to convince you their character (who everyone can agree is shit) is actually not shit. Every new season with another D tier placement in the tier list, it's "You guys are sleeping on Mr F". If you tell an Iron Fist player their character is actually good, they'd fight you on it. If you tell a Fantastic player their character is actually good, they'll thank you. I don't understand

The other gems for leaving Phos alone for ten thousand years

Some character playerbases are notorious for calling out how unfair it is that x character can do xyz. When you point out how their character can also do xyz they're quick to say that for their character it's a necessity, that it's part of their skill expression, and if you can't deal with it you're bad.

Spiderman and Hulk players do this a lot, but let me talk about Spiderman.

From the bottom of my heart, I do not think Spiderman should have his pull, mainly for the pitfalls kills. I think it's a cheat, I think it's bullshit, I don't think it's as hard to pull off as they make it sound. But then, a Spiderman player would obviously go on to justify it. In the same breath, a Spiderman player will look at Wanda and say it's so unfair how she has her auto aim. I don't play Wanda, but I've never had an issue with it because even if it's so easy, it's also just so weak.

Or even for Hulk. A second life when he ults, a chance for a second life when he dies, a bubble that farms his ult like crazy, giving him probably the fastest charging tank ult, the only transformation tank ult with CC immunity while Cap, Rogue and Peni just have to eat whatever CC people throw at them during theirs, can (well could) juggle you for ages during his ult, and yet for some reason for them it's still unfair to them that enemy can CC him during his ult

I think people would be better off accepting that all characters have the right to some kind of cheat. I play Cap and even I acknowledge that his passive sprint and leap are things that others might find bullshit

That being said, Daredevil is objectively a bullshit character and they need to gut him. I don't get why he gets the mobility of a dive character with the sustain of a brawl character and the damage of a poke character