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Tori Amos

I thought people would appreciate the address of Thiel in Tori Amos’ recent album. The album follows a tech-billionaire’s wife coming back to her humanity against the dark enlightenment, questioning her role in it, and transforming into a dragon as to fight fire with fire, effectively.

‘The album follows the story of Tori trapped in a world run by billionaire tech moguls and lizard dragons, who threaten democracy through corporate greed and authoritarianism. 

Amos says: “Jane Mayer writes about the genesis of this in Dark Money, which is one of the most important books people need to read if they’re asking, ‘How did we get here?’. 
“This has been going on since the Seventies.

“As Mayer documents, figures like the Koch brothers — and I use that as an umbrella term for a wider movement — helped shape it, along with super PACs [organisations that spend millions supporting political candidates] and all the rest. 

“It seems there was an understanding that progressive teaching in universities had to be excavated, cut back and penetrated by a very tight right-wing philosophy that is now upon us.’

“On this record, I had to take a personal journey and look at the effects of what this very small cabal of men is doing — and there are women involved too, we can’t get confused about that. 

“There’s Cambridge Analytica, the involvements of the Mercers, Rebekah Mercer [the right-wing US heiress and political donor] and all those interconnections.” 

The album’s story sees Amos’s character flee and reunite with her daughter’

(The Sun, 2026) (a shockingly informative article for The Sun lol)

The last few lyrics are from her 2007 album American Doll Posse, that sets out a critique of Bush’s presidency and other structures of power (music industry, western patriarchy) through locating the split female psyche through Ancient Greek archetypes.

‘American Doll Posse documents the lives of five women through their retrospective songs. Each girl represents a different part of the female psyche and the record explores their individuality as well as how strong and powerful they all are as a unit. Individually they all embody different female archetypes, but together they are the balanced female essence’

(Cream Magazine, 2007)

Sorry for the long-winded slightly unexplained post, but still I thought some of you would appreciate it.

u/Mysterious-Shape8302 — 4 days ago
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Big Wheel

Is this song as divisive amongst fans as I think it is?

Big Wheel is a favourite of mine. To me it is a myriad of fuck-off’s and fuck-you’s to those in positions of power that believe they have right to control others, to posses them in a shiny box.

I know that some find the M I L F call and response aspect a bit cringe, however I disagree. It’s a reclamation of the aspect of womanhood that sees women simultaneously put on a pedestal, but also shoved off. The album is a reclamation of the aspects of the female experience in the west (and at large the traumatic effects that disenfranchisement and severance has on individual people in powerless positions), and this section is a proponent of the journey into reclamation that transpires across the album. It’s a righteous call for attention. Not in a bratty egotistical way, but in a way of taking back space. It is about dropping politeness and pretence to give fire back to a lost sense of agency, a lost voice. It’s a song I find a great relation to.

If anything, I see it as a sister to Crucify and Silent All These Years, among others.

‘I’ve been on my knees, but you’re
So hard to please,
Did you take me in,
So you are a superstar,
get off the cross we need the wood’

Sorry that got a bit long-winded, but all in all, I think the song rocks! What do you all think?

u/Mysterious-Shape8302 — 11 days ago

Dannii - Club Disco

Does anyone else feel that this would’ve been a great first single from the album? It’s just as good as All I Wanna Do and I Begin to Wonder imo

u/Mysterious-Shape8302 — 15 days ago

Masochism - tracklist

I know it’s been discussed to death , but here’s my take on the Masochism tracklist.

It kinda works in opposition to the NT,MT tracklist, in that it gets more ‘hopeful’ as it progresses - ending with Guardian… ‘I want to be free from the dark that lives deep inside me of, free from the eyes that I see watching over me’. I feel Masochism is about self-discovery and liberation explored through pain and harm and lust.

I pray for rain - interlude , is this https://youtu.be/Rs0d5uC4oDY?is=6WsKv3p13J5nfcW4

However it turns out that this isn’t even a Sky song 😭😭. I kept it in thought as to represent washing away the pain in a sort of spiritual bath.

Disc 2 would be deluxe tracks.

Let me know what you think!

u/Mysterious-Shape8302 — 16 days ago

Boys for Pele: tracklist

There was a really good discussion on another post recently over Boys for Pele, especially about the arc of the album from confusion, to anger, to confused anger, to loss, acceptance…

With albums I love, I try to add in the peripheral tracks into the tracklist to see what can transpire from it, so here’s my attempt with Pele!

It was difficult, as it’s such an impenetrable album, so I’ll include explanations next to each b-side/extra track I included (I couldn’t get them all in)

  1. Beauty Queen / Horses

  2. Blood Roses

  3. Father Lucifer

  4. Professional Widow

  5. Mr Zebra

  6. Marianne

  7. !! Hungarian Wedding Song

  8. Caught a Lite Sneeze

  9. !! Fire Eater’s Wife / Beauty Queen

  10. !! Sister Named Desire

  11. Muhammad My Friend

  12. !! Alamo

  13. Hey Jupiter

  14. Way Down

  15. Little Amsterdam

  16. !! Sucker

  17. Talula

  18. !! Walk to Dublin (sucker reprise)

  19. Not the Red Baron

  20. Agent Orange

  21. Doughnut Song

  22. ITSTOHV / Rookery ending

  23. To the Fair Motormaids of Japan

  24. Putting the Damage On

  25. Graveyard

  26. Twinkle

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Hungarian Wedding Song

It felt right to place this before CALS to home in on a very quick dissolution of a relationship or a love.
Transitions out of the memory of Marianne, into the relationship with Trent also, homing in on the anger:

“When you said you’d marry me, I thought you meant you’d want to”

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Fire-Eater’s Wife / Beauty Queen

This just sounds so so hot to touch doesn’t it! With the calls to Inanna in CALS, I felt this is the ‘steaming off’ after that song, and the inclusion of BQ brings through the thread of reminiscing and recalculating (if that’s the right word) the past. The vocalisation in BQ also feels like a cooling down/ steaming off of the chants in CALS.

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Sister Named Desire

This further moves into the fire-y sisterhood and the feminine shadow side present in the album, and comes to be a precursor for the exploration of women in patriarchal narratives in MMF:

“They say the girl lost her sway that day,
Teach me about them old, old worlds, big brother man”

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Alamo

Continues the exploration of the feminine in patriarchal narratives and in the church. It doesn’t ’conclude’ this exploration, but I feel like there’s only so much she can explore in that element of the album before she knows she has to confront the loss of the relationship in her inner life, that leads into Hey Jupiter:

“Alter that Altar,
Making a play,
Somebody invent the telephone line”

Plays well into ‘no one’s picking up the phone’

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Sucker

Transitions out of Little Amsterdam, she could run away with man’s fire, but she knows she has to confront her actions towards these men (but not by way of sympathy to them) as to understand her place in these relationships. This transitions into Talula, which is an further exploration of anger and confusion with the way of man and the ‘old world’. Also lots of harpischord:

“Well I think I’m just going to stay right here,
Cause it could be fun,
I think the wolf’s a vegetarian,
And you’re a sucker”

Walk to Dublin (Sucker reprise)
All too relevant to the past set of songs:

“I’ve got a girl in my pocketbook,
And some proverbs,
Gonna take it baby,
Books and killings and somethings happening,
I’m property of my family” (professional widow, little Amsterdam…)

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Rookery ending

Who doesn’t love a little extra ditty. This is where the clearing almost, the coming out of the fog and steam, occurs; the acknowledgment that ‘it’s’ over:

“And right there for a minute,
I knew you so well” (callback to CALS, at the smallness of it all in the grander scheme, yet in those moments, it is everything)

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To the Fair Motormaids of Japan

Although this is my favourite Tori song, I find it hard to transcribe or translate lyrically, but we all know exactly what she means through her singing and Tori-isms. All these random encounters and hair-dos she notices, you feel collecting all these things through memory will somehow bring back the feeling of the relationship when you were both the most in love, but you know it can’t be grasped or held again. Transitions right into PTDO: it’s ’glue stuck to your shoes’, another song that focuses on the ‘still life’ aspects of the relationship:

“The planes that I have died on,
Trade you for another cloud”

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Graveyard

I’m heading back into the memories one final time for now with my toolkit that keeps me safe, and I’m coming back out of it intact, but I’m closing the chapter. Transitions into Twinkle, a closer we all know encapsulates BFP all too well ‘boys so hard, but I know a girl twice as hard’:

“I’m coming in the graveyard,
To sing you to sleep now”

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u/Mysterious-Shape8302 — 1 month ago

So can we finally agree…

That these are her top 5? 🤭

  1. Impossible Princess: the strongest and most unrestrained presence of her ‘voice’, that if anything was the career reset that allowed her to go onto create even greater, ‘truer’, music

  2. Body Language: experimental in its blend of dance-pop and white girl RnB, with songs that are sonically and structurally complex! Such a strong palate of songs

  3. Fever: a cultural, artistic monolith. The flagship for cool, trendy nu-disco, whilst still having traces of her experimental musical influences and sound all over. I feel like this was her way of continuing the dance of Impossible Princess, without compromising really anything.

  4. Light Years: breezy, successful, camp, European: Kylie in four words

  5. Disco (extended): pure euphoria throughout, and a statement that Kylie doesn’t just ‘reinvent’ herself as she slinks between albums, but constantly builds on what she has already mastered. Disco has a real self assured maturity to it, and that is to no cost of the euphoric dance-ability, and relatability of the album.

u/Mysterious-Shape8302 — 1 month ago

Tori and soothing

Tori is often remembered as a raw, truthful, confessional, expressionist artist, but I feel it’s not mentioned enough just how soothing she is.

I feel the way the songs come to her through shapes and colours and scents etc, is what makes the songs so soothing sometimes, like just how ‘natural’ they are.

Maybe I’m just super high lol but what do other people think? For example, I find hey Jupiter really peaceful to listen to, even though it is a song I’ve situated myself in many times, as I imagine lots of other people have. It’s just the melody of it just seems to almost be fluid and cosmic in a way that feels reassuring I guess.

I think what I’m trying to say is that she’s actually quite the optimist.

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u/Mysterious-Shape8302 — 2 months ago

Alexis Strum - Still Standing

Thought you guys would appreciate that Alexis Strum’s Addicted (the album that originally contained ‘still standing’, and Rachel Steven’s ‘nothing good about this goodbye), is out for the first time on cd / vinyl!!

It’s a great album, and thought people here would appreciate it as a Kylie rarity to have in ur music selection etc.

If anyone’s heard the album, I think this is probs the most suitable place to discuss it! I’d recommended the track ‘addicted’, it’s peak xenomania, without being xenomania lol

u/Mysterious-Shape8302 — 2 months ago

X

I know the rarities and demos etc from X have been discussed to death, but I was curious, has she ever explained a meaning behind the tracklist (as in the ordering/selection/curation)?

Has she ever addressed how many tracks from this time have emerged?

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u/Mysterious-Shape8302 — 2 months ago

Bang

Been listening to this one a lot lately, and does anyone else think that lyrically, this is one of her most beautiful?

‘Then the heavens opened and then,
I heard voices,
Joined in hosannas,
And their tower of confusion,
Could not drown the light from your star’

I feel like it picked back on those cosmic threads woven into Venus and Scarlet, and is a real call out to humanity. Someone wrote on here that they theorised the artwork for Native Invader onwards alludes to her becoming a medicine woman figure, or something along those lines. I know at this time she delved more into her Native American history and spirituality.

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u/Mysterious-Shape8302 — 2 months ago
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I recently made a post about the dark nature of Abnormally Attracted, and someone wrote that they saw Abnormally Attracted and Doll Posse as sister albums!

I felt inspired to combine the two into one long album: My Posse Can Do

I feel both albums thematically surround questioning what is not immediately answerable, addressing what is glaring obvious but what goes unmentioned, emotional blackmail, dark unsatisfying fantasy, bargaining with the self and with the other, betrayal from those who provided you with trust and security, lining up possibilities and hopes.

Considering the length, I tried to divide it up into ‘acts’, as a tribute to her novel-like storytelling across pretty much every album.

I know not everyone warmed towards them, however I feel the Doll’s are essential to understanding Tori’s *entire* discography, so I tried to attribute them to the Abnormally Attracted songs also (this was the most fun part hehe - I included emojis to try break it up a bit so it’s not just one wall of text)!

Let me know what you think!

‘My Posse Can Do’

33 Songs

2 hours, 8 minutes

ACT 1 - Recognition

  1. Yo George (Isabel 📸)
  2. Give (Pip ⚖️)
  3. Big Wheel (Tori 🐓)
  4. Welcome to England (Tori 🐓)
  5. Bouncing Off Clouds (Clyde🪡)

ACT 2 - Action

  1. Mr. Bad Man (Isabel 📸)

  2. Fast Horse (Pip ⚖️)

  3. Body and Soul (Pip ⚖️ and Santa💄)

  4. Fire to Your Plain (Santa💄)

  5. Code Red (Tori 🐓)

ACT 3 - Questioning and Longing

  1. Maybe California (Tori 🐓)

  2. Oscar’s Theme (Santa 💄)

  3. Curtain Call (Tori 🐓)

  4. Fat Slut (Pip ⚖️)

  5. Girl Disappearing (Clyde🪡)

  6. Abnormally Attracted to Sin (Santa💄 and Isabel 📸)

ACT 4 - Withdrawal

  1. Starling (Tori 🐓)

  2. Digital Ghost (Tori 🐓)

  3. That Guy (Santa💄)

  4. Teenage Hustling (Pip ⚖️)

  5. Police Me (Santa💄 and Pip ⚖️)

ACT 5 - Power and Control

  1. Father’s Son (Tori 🐓)

  2. Smokey Joe (Pip ⚖️)

  3. Devils and Gods (Isabel 📸)

  4. Strong Black Vine (Isabel 📸 and Pip⚖️)

  5. You Can Bring Your Dog (Santa💄)

  6. Beauty of Speed (Clyde🪡)

ACT 6 - Answers

  1. Flavor (Santa💄)

  2. Ophelia (Clyde🪡)

  3. Velvet Revolution (Pip ⚖️)

  4. My Posse Can Do (Tori 🐓)

  5. Lady In Blue (Tori 🐓 and Isabel 📸)

  6. Dragon (Santa💄)

Breakdown for people that read this far:

Tori [10 songs]🐓

Big Wheel / Welcome to England / Code Red / Maybe California / Curtain Call / Starling / Digital Ghost / Father’s Son / My Posse Can Do / Lady In Blue

Isabel [6 songs]📸

Yo George / Mr. Bad Man / Abnormally Attracted to Sin / Devils and Gods / Strong Black Vine / Lady In Blue

Clyde [4 songs - sorry Clyde]🪡

Bouncing Off Clouds / Girl Disappearing / Beauty of Speed / Ophelia

Pip [9 songs]⚖️

Give / Fast Horse / Body and Soul / Fat Slut / Teenage Hustling / Police Me / Smokey Joe / Strong Black Vine / Velvet Revolution

Santa [9 songs]💄

Body and Soul / Fire to Your Plain / Oscar’s Theme / Abnormally Attracted to Sin / That Guy / Police Me / You Can Bring Your Dog / Flavor / Dragon

u/Mysterious-Shape8302 — 2 months ago