u/Natural_Shape7468

young michael only answering questions when janet parrots it to him and only looking at janet

2x bc it was long asf.

As far as i can tell he only did this twice in interviews. In 1980 and 1981 with john pidgeon and steve rosen. You can watch the full audio interviews and also john and steve’s retelling of the experience calling it ‘bizarre’ and how confused they were. Steve thought he was being pranked. According to them both janet and michael didn’t look at them ONCE and only at each other. Janet was 14 and 15 in these interviews.

George michael says michael did the same thing after thriller, only speaking to him through his manager during a meeting for a charity proposal he had and felt that michael was very rude. Some type of power play? forced strangeness? We know he did a lot of stuff on purpose for the ‘eccentric’ title but this was before thriller. Or genuine shyness/anxiety and natural weirdness. So unique.

u/Natural_Shape7468 — 1 day ago

Thoughts on his relationship with omer? The most unique special friend

Called omer his son

Omer called michael dad

His nickname was little michael

Omer lived with michael at neverland, bahrain, ireland, and the house where michael died.

Omer’s parents, who worked for michael, lived with omer and michael but moved back to the norway without omer when he was young so michael was his guardian basically. Omer would go back and forth.

Omer Was in the ‘family’ row at Michael’s funeral

Michael’s kids call omer their brother.

Michael’s nephews and nieces call omer their cousin.

Omer Lived with the family at hayvenhurst after Michael died

Omer was in jackson family pictures

Omer’s changed his middle name to michael

He basically raised this kid and he’s still heavily involved with the family.

I think michael grew attached to him and basically treated him like the first child he wanted until prince came along and genuinely started seeing him like a son. Michael’s view on parenthood was very warped, he even said he’d adopt lmp’s kids and even she was weirded out 😭. In the rabbi tapes he said he loves his kids just like he loves any other kid and he knows it’s odd but he views all kids as equal even stranger’s kids. so i can see how he probably considered omer his son even though he has parents and considered him his second dad. This is if you assume omer isn’t a victim of course. I personally don’t think he was simply because of how involved he is with the jacksons still and his middle name and nickname still being Michael. But if you think he was a victim it gets even deeper and I can’t delve into that.

Very unique relationship tho he never did this with any other ‘special friend.’

u/Natural_Shape7468 — 3 days ago

Michael and Misogyny

All from the rabbi shmuley tapes. Read before reading my post.
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In many of his songs, Michael Jackson portrays women in a rather negative light.

For example:

- 'Walk Right Now'
- 'Working Day And Night'
- 'Billie Jean'
- 'Leave Me Alone'
- 'The Way You Make Me Feel' (in particular, the music video)
- 'Streetwalker' (even the song's title is derogatory)
- 'Abortion Papers'
- 'Dangerous'
- 'Give In To Me'
- 'Who Is It'
- 'Superfly Sister'
- 'Blood On The Dance Floor'
- chicago
- Jane is a groupie (unreleased.)

I find it funny how he always mentions women cheating in his songs and how cruel they are but he can understand when men cheat on their wives? And the wives ruined his brother’s lives? Jermaine has a rape case, randy and jackie both beat their wives. His dad beat and cheated on his wife (his mother!) but he gets why men cheat bc women do mean things…

He even has songs about women in dangerous situations like smooth criminal and little susie. Both abt a woman/girl being killed.

More examples of his misogyny:

He called ‘evil’ women witches like madonna. In the glenda tapes he even calls latoya’s a witch and that she has ‘too much weave,’ (while he wore wigs and extensions all his life… right)

He tried to pressure lisa marie presly into having a baby to the point that they divorced. He even threatened her saying If she doesn’t do it, debbie rowe will.

He used debbie rowe as a vessel. Didn’t even let her see her kids when she wanted visitation rights in the 2000s.

Fired his kid’s long time nanny for getting too close to his kids.

Bob jones and james safechuck both alleging that michael had a ‘slogan’ he liked to say: No wenches, bitches, heifers and hoes.

His porn collection that featured women in bondage, chains, gagged, and other aggressive sexual acts. Same sexual acts he was so disgusted with madonna having pictures of.

Janet saying michael would call her fat, hog, pig and slut. (He says it was to get her to lose weight so she doesn’t get bullied.)

Many of michael’s alleged victims said michael would tell them to not crush on girls and to stay away from their mother bc theyre ‘shifty’

Being friends with and publicly supporting r kelly until his death.

u/Natural_Shape7468 — 4 days ago

why do you think of their relationship?

They had their problems and I do think their marriage was a publicity stunt. Only on Michael’s part tho she genuinely seemed infatuated with him. I think somewhere along the line tho he did end up loving her (i think he’s bi) but he wanted his famous presly-jackson super child and she wouldn’t budge so he bailed.

While married to a pregnant debbie rowe, michael and lisa were seen hanging out multiple times (and even kissing each other over his mask😳) and lisa said they were on and off for 4 years. She also said that in the mid 2000s he’d call a few times and once cried to her when she said she felt indifferent to him.

Their relationship is very interesting but I THINK for the most part, he was a user. He used her name and their marriage to get the child molestation allegation heat off him as well as gay allegations. And wanted to use her as a vessel for his super child. I also think that was the only time he considered using his own dna to have kids.

u/Natural_Shape7468 — 5 days ago

Why dont wars end?

Is a whole population hoping and wishing a war theyre experiencing ends very differently to actively manifesting? Quite hard to imagine you already have it when youre avoiding being killed

What abt mass manifestipn?

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u/Natural_Shape7468 — 5 days ago