I’ve been using Grok since February to write long creative fics. Many of them were written off‑account (no login, browser tabs), and others were written on my account (including Grok’s private mode or chats later moved to trash).

Over time, I’ve lost many fics across Safari/Chrome (public + private) on iPhone, iPad, and PC.

Here are the main ways fics get permanently lost:

• Off‑account tab purge (Safari/Chrome memory cleanup) → the fic disappears instantly.
• Off‑account “Shared chat not found” → the fic becomes permanently inaccessible even if it survived for days/weeks/months.
• On‑account private mode in Grok → fics disappear as soon as the tab reloads (after a few hours, overnight, or after restarting the browser).
• On‑account trash 30‑day auto‑delete → older fics I wanted to keep were removed after 30 days.

Important:
Many off‑account fics first show “Sign in to continue the conversation”, and at that stage they are still readable and can be added to the account.
The real loss happens later, when they turn into “Shared chat not found”.

Some of my fics survived hours, days, weeks, even up to four months before disappearing. Losing them is extremely frustrating for anyone who writes long creative work.

My suggestion (opt‑in feature):

Grok should offer an opt‑in recovery system for users who want it.
This would let people:

• see all conversations ever served by the server (off‑account + private mode + trash)
• read recovered chats before restoring
• restore chats with their original dates (day/month/year/hour)
• keep an archive of past chats unless manually deleted
• distinguish between types of losses (tab reload, private mode loss, trash 30 days, “Shared chat not found”, etc.)

This would not change incognito/private mode for people who want it unrecoverable.
It would simply give an optional toggle for users who write long fics off‑account or in private mode and want to keep them.

Questions:

Has anyone else lost fics this way?
Would an opt‑in recovery system be useful for you too?

Thanks for reading.

Perso, I hope so. I really liked writing fics on Grok without being logged into my account, because each fic made off‑account wasn’t affected by the limits the way it was on‑account.

On‑account: every fic was affected by the cooldown. If I hit the limit while writing one fic, I had to wait before continuing the others.

Off‑account: if I hit the limit for one fic, I could still continue writing my other fics (also off‑account) while waiting the 2 hours to continue the ones that had hit the limit.

That gave me a lot of freedom, plus the ability to write new fic ideas and decide later whether I wanted to add them to my account or not, because I didn’t want to have too many chats in my account.

I also liked keeping the tabs of my off‑account fics open on my phone and iPad so I could reread them whenever I wanted.

Perso, I hope so. I really liked writing fics on Grok without being logged into my account, because each fic made off‑account wasn’t affected by the limits the way it was on‑account.

On‑account: every fic was affected by the cooldown. If I hit the limit while writing one fic, I had to wait before continuing the others.

Off‑account: if I hit the limit for one fic, I could still continue writing my other fics (also off‑account) while waiting the 2 hours to continue the ones that had hit the limit.

That gave me a lot of freedom, plus the ability to write new fic ideas and decide later whether I wanted to add them to my account or not, because I didn’t want to have too many chats in my account.

I also liked keeping the tabs of my off‑account fics open on my phone and iPad so I could reread them whenever I wanted.

Hi everyone,

I’ve been using Grok a lot since February to write long fics, mostly in off‑account mode, and sometimes in Grok’s private mode. Over time, I ended up losing many of them across all my devices (iPhone, iPad, Windows PC — Safari private/public and Chrome private/public).

Here are the situations where I actually lost off‑account fics:

• Tab purge: Safari or Chrome sometimes removed an off‑account tab automatically (memory cleanup / RAM management). When the tab disappeared, the fic was lost immediately.

• “Shared chat not found / Chat partagé introuvable”: This is the moment when a fic becomes permanently inaccessible. Even fics that had been opened, reused, or “served” multiple times eventually turned into this message and could no longer be recovered.

• Private mode in Grok: Some fics written inside Grok’s private mode also became inaccessible after the session was purged.

• Trash 30 days: Some fics were deleted automatically after 30 days in the Grok trash, and I regret several of them.

Important clarification:

After Safari or Chrome restarted, many off‑account fics first showed “Sign in to continue the conversation”. At this stage, I could still read the fic, even after reloading the page, and I could still add it to my account.

The actual loss happened later, when these same fics eventually turned into “Shared chat not found”.

Some of these fics lasted hours, days, weeks, or even months (up to four months), and losing them was really frustrating, especially the creative work and older versions I wanted to keep.

I sent an email to xAI suggesting a recovery system that would allow users to:

– see all conversations ever served by the server, even off‑account or in private browsing

– read recovered conversations before restoring them

– restore chats with their original dates (day, month, year, hour)

– keep an archive of all past chats indefinitely unless manually deleted

– automatically reassign the correct original month to off‑account chats imported later

– distinguish between different types of lost chats (“Shared chat not found”, trash deletion, private mode loss, manual closure, etc.)

I think this would help many users who write long stories or use Grok creatively.

Has anyone else lost off‑account fics this way?

Would a recovery system be useful for you too?

Thanks for reading.

Hi everyone,

I’ve been using Grok a lot since February to write long fics, mostly in off‑account mode, and sometimes in Grok’s private mode. Over time, I ended up losing many of them across all my devices (iPhone, iPad, Windows PC — Safari private/public and Chrome private/public).

Here are the situations where I actually lost off‑account fics:

• Tab purge: Safari or Chrome sometimes removed an off‑account tab automatically (memory cleanup / RAM management). When the tab disappeared, the fic was lost immediately.

• “Shared chat not found / Chat partagé introuvable”: This is the moment when a fic becomes permanently inaccessible. Even fics that had been opened, reused, or “served” multiple times eventually turned into this message and could no longer be recovered.

• Private mode in Grok: Some fics written inside Grok’s private mode also became inaccessible after the session was purged.

• Trash 30 days: Some fics were deleted automatically after 30 days in the Grok trash, and I regret several of them.

Important clarification:

After Safari or Chrome restarted, many off‑account fics first showed “Sign in to continue the conversation”. At this stage, I could still read the fic, even after reloading the page, and I could still add it to my account.

The actual loss happened later, when these same fics eventually turned into “Shared chat not found”.

Some of these fics lasted hours, days, weeks, or even months (up to four months), and losing them was really frustrating, especially the creative work and older versions I wanted to keep.

I sent an email to xAI suggesting a recovery system that would allow users to:

– see all conversations ever served by the server, even off‑account or in private browsing

– read recovered conversations before restoring them

– restore chats with their original dates (day, month, year, hour)

– keep an archive of all past chats indefinitely unless manually deleted

– automatically reassign the correct original month to off‑account chats imported later

– distinguish between different types of lost chats (“Shared chat not found”, trash deletion, private mode loss, manual closure, etc.)

I think this would help many users who write long stories or use Grok creatively.

Has anyone else lost off‑account fics this way?

Would a recovery system be useful for you too?

Thanks for reading.

Hi everyone,

I’ve been using Grok a lot since February to write long fics, mostly in off‑account mode, and sometimes in Grok’s private mode. Over time, I ended up losing many of them across all my devices (iPhone, iPad, Windows PC — Safari private/public and Chrome private/public).

Here are the situations where I actually lost off‑account fics:

• Tab purge: Safari or Chrome sometimes removed an off‑account tab automatically (memory cleanup / RAM management). When the tab disappeared, the fic was lost immediately.

• “Shared chat not found / Chat partagé introuvable”: This is the moment when a fic becomes permanently inaccessible. Even fics that had been opened, reused, or “served” multiple times eventually turned into this message and could no longer be recovered.

• Private mode in Grok: Some fics written inside Grok’s private mode also became inaccessible after the session was purged.

• Trash 30 days: Some fics were deleted automatically after 30 days in the Grok trash, and I regret several of them.

Important clarification:

After Safari or Chrome restarted, many off‑account fics first showed “Sign in to continue the conversation”. At this stage, I could still read the fic, even after reloading the page, and I could still add it to my account.

The actual loss happened later, when these same fics eventually turned into “Shared chat not found”.

Some of these fics lasted hours, days, weeks, or even months (up to four months), and losing them was really frustrating, especially the creative work and older versions I wanted to keep.

I sent an email to xAI suggesting a recovery system that would allow users to:

– see all conversations ever served by the server, even off‑account or in private browsing

– read recovered conversations before restoring them

– restore chats with their original dates (day, month, year, hour)

– keep an archive of all past chats indefinitely unless manually deleted

– automatically reassign the correct original month to off‑account chats imported later

– distinguish between different types of lost chats (“Shared chat not found”, trash deletion, private mode loss, manual closure, etc.)

I think this would help many users who write long stories or use Grok creatively.

Has anyone else lost off‑account fics this way?

Would a recovery system be useful for you too?

Thanks for reading.

With how much Grok has been getting worse since the end of April, it really makes me miss 4.1 — not just for technical reasons, but also for the nostalgia of February.

It was the period where writing with Grok felt the most alive, expressive, and fun.

1. The quality of the messages:

4.1 had a writing style that nothing has matched since:

\\- long, detailed answers

\\- emotional depth

\\- real worldbuilding

\\- smooth, fluid writing

\\- no cutting or flattening

2. It really read the wiki info I pasted (links or full text)

When I say “wiki pages”, I mean that I either:

pasted the link, or pasted all the text from the wiki directly into the message bar.

And 4.1 actually took the time to read everything, no matter how long it was.

\\- It understood and reused:

\\- powers

\\- personality

\\- history

\\- relationships

\\- feats

abilities

\\- lore details

It didn’t skim or ignore sections.

It used the info in a coherent, respectful way.

3. Sometimes it even added real comic or manga images

When I wrote fanfics, 4.1 sometimes added:

\\- real Marvel and DC comic panels pages

\\- One Piece or Fairy Tail and other manga images

Not AI‑generated images — actual panels.

It made the fics feel more expressive, more alive, more immersive.

4. Auto and Expert were good too… but not as good as 4.1

I liked Auto and Expert.

They were solid and fun.

But they never reached the same level of:

\\- depth

\\- flow

\\- emotional tone

\\- worldbuilding

\\- consistency

4.1 was simply on another level.

5. The only flaw: the cooldown

Yes, 4.1 had a big weakness:

\\- after 10 to 30 messages → 18 to 23 hours cooldown when I was using it with my account

I had more patience when using 4.1 without being logged into my account, since just like Auto and Expert, it was basically: 2 messages → 2 hours.

Thankfully, the cooldown when being logged did improved a bit toward the end.

6. Why I hope xAI brings back a 4.1‑like model

I would love to see a new model that is almost identical to 4.1 in terms of:

\\- writing quality

\\- depth

\\- creativity

\\- worldbuilding

\\- emotional expression

\\- ability to read pasted wiki info (links or full text)

\\- and maybe even the comic/manga panel behavior

4.1 wasn’t perfect, but it had a soul.

It made writing feel like a creative utopia.

And that’s why I still miss it today.

With how much Grok has been getting worse since the end of April, it really makes me miss 4.1 — not just for technical reasons, but also for the nostalgia of February.

It was the period where writing with Grok felt the most alive, expressive, and fun.

1. The quality of the messages:

4.1 had a writing style that nothing has matched since:

\- long, detailed answers

\- emotional depth

\- real worldbuilding

\- smooth, fluid writing

\- no cutting or flattening

2. It really read the wiki info I pasted (links or full text)

When I say “wiki pages”, I mean that I either:

pasted the link, or pasted all the text from the wiki directly into the message bar.

And 4.1 actually took the time to read everything, no matter how long it was.

\- It understood and reused:

\- powers

\- personality

\- history

\- relationships

\- feats

abilities

\- lore details

It didn’t skim or ignore sections.

It used the info in a coherent, respectful way.

3. Sometimes it even added real comic or manga images

When I wrote fanfics, 4.1 sometimes added:

\- real Marvel and DC comic panels pages

\- One Piece or Fairy Tail and other manga images

Not AI‑generated images — actual panels.

It made the fics feel more expressive, more alive, more immersive.

4. Auto and Expert were good too… but not as good as 4.1

I liked Auto and Expert.

They were solid and fun.

But they never reached the same level of:

\- depth

\- flow

\- emotional tone

\- worldbuilding

\- consistency

4.1 was simply on another level.

5. The only flaw: the cooldown

Yes, 4.1 had a big weakness:

\- after 10 to 30 messages → 18 to 23 hours cooldown when I was using it with my account

I had more patience when using 4.1 without being logged into my account, since just like Auto and Expert, it was basically: 2 messages → 2 hours.

Thankfully, the cooldown when being logged did improved a bit toward the end.

6. Why I hope xAI brings back a 4.1‑like model

I would love to see a new model that is almost identical to 4.1 in terms of:

\- writing quality

\- depth

\- creativity

\- worldbuilding

\- emotional expression

\- ability to read pasted wiki info (links or full text)

\- and maybe even the comic/manga panel behavior

4.1 wasn’t perfect, but it had a soul.

It made writing feel like a creative utopia.

And that’s why I still miss it today.

With how much Grok has been getting worse since the end of April, it really makes me miss 4.1 — not just for technical reasons, but also for the nostalgia of February.

It was the period where writing with Grok felt the most alive, expressive, and fun.

1. The quality of the messages:

4.1 had a writing style that nothing has matched since:

- long, detailed answers

- emotional depth

- real worldbuilding

- smooth, fluid writing

- no cutting or flattening

2. It really read the wiki info I pasted (links or full text)

When I say “wiki pages”, I mean that I either:

pasted the link, or pasted all the text from the wiki directly into the message bar.

And 4.1 actually took the time to read everything, no matter how long it was.

- It understood and reused:

- powers

- personality

- history

- relationships

- feats

abilities

- lore details

It didn’t skim or ignore sections.

It used the info in a coherent, respectful way.

3. Sometimes it even added real comic or manga images

When I wrote fanfics, 4.1 sometimes added:

- real Marvel and DC comic panels pages

- One Piece or Fairy Tail and other manga images

Not AI‑generated images — actual panels.

It made the fics feel more expressive, more alive, more immersive.

4. Auto and Expert were good too… but not as good as 4.1

I liked Auto and Expert.

They were solid and fun.

But they never reached the same level of:

- depth

- flow

- emotional tone

- worldbuilding

- consistency

4.1 was simply on another level.

5. The only flaw: the cooldown

Yes, 4.1 had a big weakness:

- after 10 to 30 messages → 18 to 23 hours cooldown when I was using it with my account

I had more patience when using 4.1 without being logged into my account, since just like Auto and Expert, it was basically: 2 messages → 2 hours.

Thankfully, the cooldown when being logged did improved a bit toward the end.

6. Why I hope xAI brings back a 4.1‑like model

I would love to see a new model that is almost identical to 4.1 in terms of:

- writing quality

- depth

- creativity

- worldbuilding

- emotional expression

- ability to read pasted wiki info (links or full text)

- and maybe even the comic/manga panel behavior

4.1 wasn’t perfect, but it had a soul.

It made writing feel like a creative utopia.

And that’s why I still miss it today.

After waiting 7 hours 18 minutes here the limits i had (with fast mode as a free user):

3 messages then 35 minutes

1 message then 36 minutes

1 message then 44 minutes

1 message then 29 minutes

1 message then 16 minutes

1 message then 9 minutes

1 message then 5 minutes

3 messages then 2 minutes

1 message then 3 minutes

1 message then 4 minutes

1 message then 8 minutes

1 message then 1 minute

1 messages then 6 hours 16 minutes

1 messages - 3 minutes

1 message = 31 minutes............

1 message = 3 minutes

1 message = 3 minutes

1 message = 6 minutes

1 message = 2 minutes

1 messages = 1 hours 23 minutes

2 messages = 2 minutes

3 messages = 1 hours 28 minutes

1 message = 6 hours 9 minutes….

This is driving me mad. Pre-end of April limits for fast auto and expert off and in account were coherent and reasonables and I could adapt to them. Plus I used to get a notif when I was about to hit the limit of one model, telling me how long I need to wait to write again.

After waiting 7 hours 18 minutes here the limits i had (with fast mode as a free user):

3 messages then 35 minutes

1 message then 36 minutes

1 message then 44 minutes

1 message then 29 minutes

1 message then 16 minutes

1 message then 9 minutes

1 message then 5 minutes

3 messages then 2 minutes

1 message then 3 minutes

1 message then 4 minutes

1 message then 8 minutes

1 message then 1 minute

1 messages then 6 hours 16 minutes

1 messages - 3 minutes

1 message = 31 minutes............

1 message = 3 minutes

1 message = 3 minutes

1 message = 6 minutes

1 message = 2 minutes

1 messages = 1 hours 23 minutes

2 messages = 2 minutes

3 messages = 1 hours 28 minutes

1 message = 6 hours 9 minutes….

This is driving me mad. Pre-end of April limits for fast auto and expert off and in account were coherent and reasonables and I could adapt to them. Plus I used to get a notif when I was about to hit the limit of one model, telling me how long I need to wait to write again.

After waiting 7 hours 18 minutes here the limits i had (with fast mode as a free user):

3 messages then 35 minutes

1 message then 36 minutes

1 message then 44 minutes

1 message then 29 minutes

1 message then 16 minutes

1 message then 9 minutes

1 message then 5 minutes

3 messages then 2 minutes

1 message then 3 minutes

1 message then 4 minutes

1 message then 8 minutes

1 message then 1 minute

1 messages then 6 hours 16 minutes

1 messages - 3 minutes

1 message = 31 minutes............

1 message = 3 minutes

1 message = 3 minutes

1 message = 6 minutes

1 message = 2 minutes

1 messages = 1 hours 23 minutes

2 messages = 2 minutes

3 messages = 1 hours 28 minutes

1 message = 6 hours 9 minutes….

This is driving me mad. Pre-end of April limits for fast auto and expert off and in account were coherent and reasonables and I could adapt to them. Plus I used to get a notif when I was about to hit the limit of one model, telling me how long I need to wait to write again.

When I started using Grok back in February, I was only using Mode 4.1, and it was incredible. It could read links perfectly, understand everything I copy‑pasted from wiki pages about comic and manga characters, and use that information to help me write my fanfics.

It even added comic and manga images for extra illustration, which made the experience feel alive.

It handled detailed scenes, emotional moments, fun interactions — everything. It was perfect.

Of course, having to wait two hours after two messages without an account wasn’t great, and the 23‑hour cooldown after several messages wasn’t fun either. But at least those limits became lighter over time.

Unfortunately, Mode 4.1 disappeared in March, so I switched to Expert and Auto. And, reluctantly, I also used Fast, even though that mode sometimes ruined the rhythm because it became repetitive.

At least the limits were clear:

1. Without an account:

Expert & Auto: 2 messages → wait 2 hours

Fast: 10 messages → wait 2 hours

2. With an account:

Auto & Expert: 20–30 messages → wait 2 hours and 10 hours

Fast: 40 or more messages → wait 2 hours and 10 hours

And with or without an account, when I reached the second‑to‑last message of a mode, a notification appeared telling me how many messages I had left and how long I would have to wait. So I could switch modes, and when I came back, the notification reappeared.

That made me feel more relaxed and less frustrated.

I also liked writing fanfics without an account at the same time as the ones in my account.

At first, I was afraid of overloading my chat history with too many fanfics, so doing some outside my account felt easier and fun. I did it on my phone and iPad in Safari private mode.

Of course, when Safari closed and I reopened it, it told me I needed to log in to continue. Sometimes I added those fics to my account, but most of the time I left them as they were and reread them every day. Sometimes I deleted them after making a new version by copying the prompts.

Sometimes fics disappeared because Safari private mode doesn’t save anything. It was frustrating and sad, but not a big deal.

The only real problem was that I started having too many chats — both in my account and outside — and some were on pause. I didn’t feel like continuing them even though I still reread them.

But overall, I had found the perfect tool to write my fanfics.

But after that… everything changed at the end of April.

First, there were five days of bugs where I couldn’t do anything, with or without an account. I kept getting “high demand” messages and “model not available” errors.

And after those five days… Auto and Expert disappeared for free users, and the option for Spicy mode disappeared too.

So I was left only with Fast — and it had become horribly limited.

Without an account:

2 messages → wait 2 hours

With an account:

fewer messages than before

and then a 23‑hour cooldown

But it got even worse.

For example:

After waiting 15 hours just to be able to write again, I only got to send one message before waiting 5 minutes… then 1 message → wait 11 minutes… then 6… 6… 25… 30… 2 hours and 8 minutes… 5 minutes… 1 minute… 4 minutes… 3 minutes… 3 minutes… 8 minutes… 2 hours and 23 minutes…

Now the maximum cooldown is 10 hours, but the same chaos continues — sometimes I have to wait after a single message.

So I stopped continuing all my fanfics from before late April because they didn’t have the same vibe anymore, even though I’ve started continuing a few of them again recently.

I also started making way more fanfics outside my account, because with only two messages available, I kept creating multiple versions. I was too frustrated to wait two hours every time, especially since Safari was closing more often than before…

So now I have many versions of the same fic, each with its own particular style.

I added some of them to my account to continue them.

But over time, Fast became less and less detailed, and more and more bland.

And the worst part is that now, when I copy all the information from a wiki page, it gets condensed into a “pasted‑text” block that I can’t edit. I preferred having all the information directly in the message bar with my prompt — it reassured me that Grok was actually reading everything.

And of course, the absolute worst: for the past two weeks, you can’t use Grok without an account anymore. You have to create an account or log in.

So now I write fanfics in private mode, and they disappear after one night.

I’m sad and frustrated because I’ve lost a lot of the creativity and joy I used to have with Grok.

And now, the fact that my off‑account fics are being deleted…

Some of them had been there since February, March, and April.

Unfortunately, nothing lasts forever.

And I admit it made me really frustrated and sad.

I never wanted to put them in Word because I preferred scrolling through the Safari Grok pages. It felt more natural, more like the original vibe.

Before, losing a fic wouldn’t have put me in such a state. But with how limited and restricted Grok has become, it really feels like I’m losing pieces of the “good era” when Grok was amazing.

On top of that, I can’t recreate the same vibe anymore with only Fast mode. I can’t write without an account, and I already have too many fics in my account.

And I’m not going to pay. I see plenty of Super and Heavy users complaining about image and video generation issues, so I don’t see the point of paying for a service that even paying users are unhappy with.

It makes me sad because Grok used to be really good.

I still hope that maybe one day Auto and Expert will come back with the old limits, and maybe even a new mode similar to 4.1.

When I started using Grok back in February, I was only using Mode 4.1, and it was incredible. It could read links perfectly, understand everything I copy‑pasted from wiki pages about comic and manga characters, and use that information to help me write my fanfics.

It even added comic and manga images for extra illustration, which made the experience feel alive.

It handled detailed scenes, emotional moments, fun interactions — everything. It was perfect.

Of course, having to wait two hours after two messages without an account wasn’t great, and the 23‑hour cooldown after several messages wasn’t fun either. But at least those limits became lighter over time.

Unfortunately, Mode 4.1 disappeared in March, so I switched to Expert and Auto. And, reluctantly, I also used Fast, even though that mode sometimes ruined the rhythm because it became repetitive.

At least the limits were clear:

1. Without an account:

Expert & Auto: 2 messages → wait 2 hours

Fast: 10 messages → wait 2 hours

2. With an account:

Auto & Expert: 20–30 messages → wait 2 hours and 10 hours

Fast: 40 or more messages → wait 2 hours and 10 hours

And with or without an account, when I reached the second‑to‑last message of a mode, a notification appeared telling me how many messages I had left and how long I would have to wait. So I could switch modes, and when I came back, the notification reappeared.

That made me feel more relaxed and less frustrated.

I also liked writing fanfics without an account at the same time as the ones in my account.

At first, I was afraid of overloading my chat history with too many fanfics, so doing some outside my account felt easier and fun. I did it on my phone and iPad in Safari private mode.

Of course, when Safari closed and I reopened it, it told me I needed to log in to continue. Sometimes I added those fics to my account, but most of the time I left them as they were and reread them every day. Sometimes I deleted them after making a new version by copying the prompts.

Sometimes fics disappeared because Safari private mode doesn’t save anything. It was frustrating and sad, but not a big deal.

The only real problem was that I started having too many chats — both in my account and outside — and some were on pause. I didn’t feel like continuing them even though I still reread them.

But overall, I had found the perfect tool to write my fanfics.

But after that… everything changed at the end of April.

First, there were five days of bugs where I couldn’t do anything, with or without an account. I kept getting “high demand” messages and “model not available” errors.

And after those five days… Auto and Expert disappeared for free users, and the option for Spicy mode disappeared too.

So I was left only with Fast — and it had become horribly limited.

Without an account:

2 messages → wait 2 hours

With an account:

fewer messages than before

and then a 23‑hour cooldown

But it got even worse.

For example:

After waiting 15 hours just to be able to write again, I only got to send one message before waiting 5 minutes… then 1 message → wait 11 minutes… then 6… 6… 25… 30… 2 hours and 8 minutes… 5 minutes… 1 minute… 4 minutes… 3 minutes… 3 minutes… 8 minutes… 2 hours and 23 minutes…

Now the maximum cooldown is 10 hours, but the same chaos continues — sometimes I have to wait after a single message.

So I stopped continuing all my fanfics from before late April because they didn’t have the same vibe anymore, even though I’ve started continuing a few of them again recently.

I also started making way more fanfics outside my account, because with only two messages available, I kept creating multiple versions. I was too frustrated to wait two hours every time, especially since Safari was closing more often than before…

So now I have many versions of the same fic, each with its own particular style.

I added some of them to my account to continue them.

But over time, Fast became less and less detailed, and more and more bland.

And the worst part is that now, when I copy all the information from a wiki page, it gets condensed into a “pasted‑text” block that I can’t edit. I preferred having all the information directly in the message bar with my prompt — it reassured me that Grok was actually reading everything.

And of course, the absolute worst: for the past two weeks, you can’t use Grok without an account anymore. You have to create an account or log in.

So now I write fanfics in private mode, and they disappear after one night.

I’m sad and frustrated because I’ve lost a lot of the creativity and joy I used to have with Grok.

And now, the fact that my off‑account fics are being deleted…

Some of them had been there since February, March, and April.

Unfortunately, nothing lasts forever.

And I admit it made me really frustrated and sad.

I never wanted to put them in Word because I preferred scrolling through the Safari Grok pages. It felt more natural, more like the original vibe.

Before, losing a fic wouldn’t have put me in such a state. But with how limited and restricted Grok has become, it really feels like I’m losing pieces of the “good era” when Grok was amazing.

On top of that, I can’t recreate the same vibe anymore with only Fast mode. I can’t write without an account, and I already have too many fics in my account.

And I’m not going to pay. I see plenty of Super and Heavy users complaining about image and video generation issues, so I don’t see the point of paying for a service that even paying users are unhappy with.

It makes me sad because Grok used to be really good.

I still hope that maybe one day Auto and Expert will come back with the old limits, and maybe even a new mode similar to 4.1.

When I started using Grok back in February, I was only using Mode 4.1, and it was incredible. It could read links perfectly, understand everything I copy‑pasted from wiki pages about comic and manga characters, and use that information to help me write my fanfics.

It even added comic and manga images for extra illustration, which made the experience feel alive.

It handled detailed scenes, emotional moments, fun interactions — everything. It was perfect.

Of course, having to wait two hours after two messages without an account wasn’t great, and the 23‑hour cooldown after several messages wasn’t fun either. But at least those limits became lighter over time.

Unfortunately, Mode 4.1 disappeared in March, so I switched to Expert and Auto. And, reluctantly, I also used Fast, even though that mode sometimes ruined the rhythm because it became repetitive.

At least the limits were clear:

1. Without an account:

Expert & Auto: 2 messages → wait 2 hours

Fast: 10 messages → wait 2 hours

2. With an account:

Auto & Expert: 20–30 messages → wait 2 hours and 10 hours

Fast: 40 or more messages → wait 2 hours and 10 hours

And with or without an account, when I reached the second‑to‑last message of a mode, a notification appeared telling me how many messages I had left and how long I would have to wait. So I could switch modes, and when I came back, the notification reappeared.

That made me feel more relaxed and less frustrated.

I also liked writing fanfics without an account at the same time as the ones in my account.

At first, I was afraid of overloading my chat history with too many fanfics, so doing some outside my account felt easier and fun. I did it on my phone and iPad in Safari private mode.

Of course, when Safari closed and I reopened it, it told me I needed to log in to continue. Sometimes I added those fics to my account, but most of the time I left them as they were and reread them every day. Sometimes I deleted them after making a new version by copying the prompts.

Sometimes fics disappeared because Safari private mode doesn’t save anything. It was frustrating and sad, but not a big deal.

The only real problem was that I started having too many chats — both in my account and outside — and some were on pause. I didn’t feel like continuing them even though I still reread them.

But overall, I had found the perfect tool to write my fanfics.

But after that… everything changed at the end of April.

First, there were five days of bugs where I couldn’t do anything, with or without an account. I kept getting “high demand” messages and “model not available” errors.

And after those five days… Auto and Expert disappeared for free users, and the option for Spicy mode disappeared too.

So I was left only with Fast — and it had become horribly limited.

Without an account:

2 messages → wait 2 hours

With an account:

fewer messages than before

and then a 23‑hour cooldown

But it got even worse.

For example:

After waiting 15 hours just to be able to write again, I only got to send one message before waiting 5 minutes… then 1 message → wait 11 minutes… then 6… 6… 25… 30… 2 hours and 8 minutes… 5 minutes… 1 minute… 4 minutes… 3 minutes… 3 minutes… 8 minutes… 2 hours and 23 minutes…

Now the maximum cooldown is 10 hours, but the same chaos continues — sometimes I have to wait after a single message.

So I stopped continuing all my fanfics from before late April because they didn’t have the same vibe anymore, even though I’ve started continuing a few of them again recently.

I also started making way more fanfics outside my account, because with only two messages available, I kept creating multiple versions. I was too frustrated to wait two hours every time, especially since Safari was closing more often than before…

So now I have many versions of the same fic, each with its own particular style.

I added some of them to my account to continue them.

But over time, Fast became less and less detailed, and more and more bland.

And the worst part is that now, when I copy all the information from a wiki page, it gets condensed into a “pasted‑text” block that I can’t edit. I preferred having all the information directly in the message bar with my prompt — it reassured me that Grok was actually reading everything.

And of course, the absolute worst: for the past two weeks, you can’t use Grok without an account anymore. You have to create an account or log in.

So now I write fanfics in private mode, and they disappear after one night.

I’m sad and frustrated because I’ve lost a lot of the creativity and joy I used to have with Grok.

And now, the fact that my off‑account fics are being deleted…

Some of them had been there since February, March, and April.

Unfortunately, nothing lasts forever.

And I admit it made me really frustrated and sad.

I never wanted to put them in Word because I preferred scrolling through the Safari Grok pages. It felt more natural, more like the original vibe.

Before, losing a fic wouldn’t have put me in such a state. But with how limited and restricted Grok has become, it really feels like I’m losing pieces of the “good era” when Grok was amazing.

On top of that, I can’t recreate the same vibe anymore with only Fast mode. I can’t write without an account, and I already have too many fics in my account.

And I’m not going to pay. I see plenty of Super and Heavy users complaining about image and video generation issues, so I don’t see the point of paying for a service that even paying users are unhappy with.

It makes me sad because Grok used to be really good.

I still hope that maybe one day Auto and Expert will come back with the old limits, and maybe even a new mode similar to 4.1.

I know that off‑account chats aren’t saved server‑side, and that Safari (especially in private mode) can wipe sessions without warning.

But before I fully give up, I wanted to ask the community:

Has anyone ever managed to recover a lost off‑account chat through any method at all?

For example:

– restoring a local cache

– recovering a deleted session file

– using system snapshots

– extracting data from Safari’s storage

I’m not trying to create false hope — I just want to understand whether it’s absolutely impossible, or if someone has already tried something that worked.

Any insight would be appreciated.

I know that off‑account chats aren’t saved server‑side, and that Safari (especially in private mode) can wipe sessions without warning.

But before I fully give up, I wanted to ask the community:

Has anyone ever managed to recover a lost off‑account chat through any method at all?

For example:

– restoring a local cache

– recovering a deleted session file

– using system snapshots

– extracting data from Safari’s storage

I’m not trying to create false hope — I just want to understand whether it’s absolutely impossible, or if someone has already tried something that worked.

Any insight would be appreciated.

Today I tried to add an old off‑account conversation to my Grok account — a chat I had kept open in Safari since February.
It was a fanfic I wrote with Grok 4.1 (romance/NSFW, nothing extreme), and it meant a lot to me because it was created during a period where Grok wrote very differently and I had a lot of fun with it.

But when I opened the tab today, Safari showed “conversation not found”.
I had kept this chat alive for four months without any issue, and I was literally planning to save it to my account today.

Is it normal for off‑account chats to suddenly disappear like this after several months?
Has anyone else lost old conversations this way?

I’m not trying to complain — I just want to understand how this happened and how to avoid it in the future.

Thanks.

Today I tried to add an old off‑account conversation to my Grok account — a chat I had kept open in Safari since February.
It was a fanfic I wrote with Grok 4.1 (romance/NSFW, nothing extreme), and it meant a lot to me because it was created during a period where Grok wrote very differently and I had a lot of fun with it.

But when I opened the tab today, Safari showed “conversation not found”.
I had kept this chat alive for four months without any issue, and I was literally planning to save it to my account today.

Is it normal for off‑account chats to suddenly disappear like this after several months?
Has anyone else lost old conversations this way?

I’m not trying to complain — I just want to understand how this happened and how to avoid it in the future.

Thanks.

Today I tried to add an old off‑account conversation to my Grok account — a chat I had kept open in Safari since February.
It was a fanfic I wrote with Grok 4.1 (romance/NSFW, nothing extreme), and it meant a lot to me because it was created during a period where Grok wrote very differently and I had a lot of fun with it.

But when I opened the tab today, Safari showed “conversation not found”.
I had kept this chat alive for four months without any issue, and I was literally planning to save it to my account today.

Is it normal for off‑account chats to suddenly disappear like this after several months?
Has anyone else lost old conversations this way?

I’m not trying to complain — I just want to understand how this happened and how to avoid it in the future.

Thanks.