Weekly Song Discussion - Where the Circle Ends

Where the Circle Ends - Waiting (1999) - Eyeball Records

Lyrics:

Mountain ranges

Morning red bathed ridges

Stab up at the trembling blue horizon

Grey slides lazily off rooftops

Lands on the incandescent ground and dies

A flock of little men touch down on the thin surface of porch light

Dawn's foot-soldiers return to march the twilight across our faces

Skylights ignite and explode

Scattering shards of April around the room

No one even lives here

We're too busy crashing our cars every morning in the same house

Paving the same roads

Unwilling to walk them

And even when we extend ourselves, its only to be included

In a moment that stands still

And so often we don't struggle to improve conditions

We struggle for the right to say "We improved conditions"

And so often we form communities

Only to use them as exclusionary devices

And we forget that somewhere man is beside himself with grief

And somewhere people are calling for teachers

And no one's answering

Somewhere a man stands, walks across the room, and breaks his nose against the door

And somewhere these people are keeping records

And writing a book

For now we can call it "The Book About the Basic Flaw

Or "The Book About the Letter A"

Or "Any Title That a Book About a Man That No One Cares About Might Have"

And as we turn the pages we call out the sounds of nothing

The sounds of a vanishing alphabet

Standing here waiting

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u/Normal_Confusion1644 — 5 days ago

Weekly Song Discussion - The Dotted Line

The Dotted Line - Waiting (1999) - Eyeball Records

Lyrics:

The angels sing of someone coming down

To wake us from a sleep

This broken TV won't shut off again

Must be some sort of sign for us

That things are going to change

It's hard to dream

Well you'll try hard

In this half-hearted minute

You sleep alone

It's hard to dream

With your heart closed

It's only a matter of time, a matter of time

Before we fade out

That phone is ringing in my head again

I'm too scared to pick up

For fear that this is the call I've been waiting for

Could be some sort of sign for me

That it's time for me to change

It's hard to dream

With your heart gone

In this half-hearted minute

You sleep alone

It's hard to dream

With your heart closed

It's only a matter of time, a matter of time

Before we fade out

Before we fade out

Before we fade out

Before we fade out

It's the turning off

That happens every night

And if we don't stop soon

We will never wake up again

Computers lie

They keep us in our lives

If I'm paranoid

It's 'cause they're watching us

The phone is tapped

The phone is tapped

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u/Normal_Confusion1644 — 14 days ago

Weekly Song Discussion - Dying In New Brunswick

Dying In New Brunswick - Waiting (11/08/1999) - Eyeball Records

Lyrics:

You told me on your birthday

All the thins that this place had done to you

And in the streets you walk

You hide your face 'cause they don't believe it's true

They say "it doesn't happen that often"

But it's happening right now

I'm writing you this letter to let you know

"I'm not all right"

And in this city the streets are paved with hate

So you can cry yourself to sleep tonight and say

"No, there aren't enough love songs in the sky"

You're counting down the days 'til you can say

"Bye-bye, city, bye-bye"

You're walking down on Union

You see the roads and know they're a part of you

They say "it doesnt happen that often"

But it's happening right now

I'm writing you a second time to let you know

"Nothing here has changed"

The streets, still paved with hate

So you can cry yourself to sleep tonight

Will you look back on this night as the day that ruined your life?

Will you look back on these city streets and say

"Oh, God, what happened?"

With these city streets I hide my face

I turn away when you look at me

And every night when I'm trying to sleep

I feel your hands all over my body

You stripped away the street signs

And you shot out all the stop lights

You smashed away the buildings

What would you have left?

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u/Normal_Confusion1644 — 20 days ago

Weekly Song Discussion - In Transmission

In Transmission - Waiting (11/09/1999) - Eyeball Records

Lyrics:

This sunlight cutting through the open fields.

Can't be communicated by radio waves.

And through this flashlight keyhole memory.

Receive a thousand signals and can't respond.

So keep your hands to yourself.

And relay the message to your friends that nothing's wrong.

Reverse reception on this lifeless satellite.

Push this button.

End the transmission.

So keep your hands to yourself

In this transit station reconnection to our lives.

In transit like my voice cutting through this line.

It's the same old song broadcasted on the radio.

Saying I'm not worth your time.

End the transmission.

This absence is making relations come undone

it's breaking air waves I'm losing you in the transmission...

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u/Normal_Confusion1644 — 27 days ago

New meds didn't take.

Was having some good days and wanting to connect again and turns out the meds weren't working properly for me. So upset. 3 weeks to get off them with no substitute until I'm off fully off the original medication. This sucks. I want to connect with folks and it's nearly impossible when you're so depressed. It's written all over my face. I look tired and beat down because I am. On top of that I feel like I could never talk about this. Im not looking to be that dude who's like I'm so and so I have depression but what the fuck do I do if I want to be in a long term relationship one day. Thanks for listening.

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u/Normal_Confusion1644 — 1 month ago

Weekly Song Discussion - Ian Curtis

Ian Curtis - Waiting (11/08/1999) - Eyeball Records

[Verse 1]

We listened to the open sound

Your voice projected on the radio dial

"Lie with me" I said

And lying's what she always did and always will

[Refrain]

All these thoughts keep leading back to him

[Verse 2]

(There are no words in songs)

And no signs from Cinema

No city skyline

No paper scraps and no unfolding at five o' clock

Your voice skips as it always did and always will

[Refrain]

All these thoughts keep leading back to

[Verse 3]

It's the light from your sunless room

Scattered in pieces all around you

Recession of these thoughtless forms

Reciting every line

As a way of life

And a way of death in time

[Pre-Chorus]

We heard Ian Curtis kill himself again in your bed

We heard Ian Curtis kill himself again in your bed

We heard Ian Curtis kill himself again in your bed

[Chorus]

In these 24 hours, we stretched into a room

Filled with "heart and soul" (Isolation)

This is the way

Step inside (Isolation)

And march in the procession of empty hearts

[Outro]

(Isolation)

Love has torn us apart

(Isolation)

Love has torn us apart

(Isolation)

Love has torn us apart

(Isolation)

Love has torn us apart

(Isolation)

(It's a part of you a part of me in time)

Love has torn us apart

(Isolation)

(It's a part of you a part of me in time)

Love has torn us apart

(Isolation)

(It's a part of you a part of me in time)

Love has torn us apart

(Isolation)

We're falling apart together

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u/Normal_Confusion1644 — 2 months ago

Weekly Song Discussion - This Side of Brightness (PLUS UPDATE!)

This Side of Brightness - Waiting (11/08/1999) - Eyeball

[Verse 1]

I saved it up

Stitched all these dead end streets

Into the sewn up seams of my

Heartstrings unwind (Unwind)

Unwound

Like a petal pulled from an open flower surrounds

By fields where children sigh but don't make a sound

And don't

[Chorus]

Break it off

This searching for what we may never find

And that says it all

I hope that we will make it through

[Verse 2]

The heartbreak that comes

With just living through one day

All the good times that pass

All the friends we lose in a lifetime on our way

[Bridge]

Here in this life

We seem so lost

On this side of brightness

We don't know where to go

UPDATE: Hey! So I'm a little neurotic (a lot) and I've made an outline of the songs we'll hit. Obviously some will spark more discussion than others but they will be there if you feel the urge to discuss when the time comes. I'm doing it in chronological order. If something is missing let me know. I picked out some singles, etc. to cover but there's quite a bit out there. If ya'll really feel strongly about skipping demos or live tracks let me know. I would love to personally. All feedback is welcome. We could always combine the Waiting bonus tracks on one thread. Also including lyrics now. I find them online so if something if off there let me know. Otherwise I'd say we have some solid weeks ahead of us!

This is my in progress outline. Now I know we skipped 1999 Summer Tour EP but we could always pivot back to it. Not sure how in depth we want to get here.

1999 Summer Tour EP (07/1999) - Self-released

 

Waiting (11/08/1999) - Eyeball

 

1.       Porcelain

2.       This Side of Brightness

3.       Ian Curtis

4.       Introduction

5.       Streaks in the Sky

6.       In Transmission

7.       Dying in New Brunswick

8.       The Dotted Line

9.       Were the Circle Ends

 

2015 reissue 7” vinyl/CD bonus tracks

1.       This Side of Brightness (demo)

2.       Dying in New Brunswick (demo)

3.       Mass as Shadows

 

Split with Waterdown (2001)

 

Full Collapse (04/10/2001) - Victory

 

1.       A0001

2.       

 

Five Stories Falling (10/22/2002) - Victory

 

Evacuate (Negative Approach cover) from Tomorrow Seems So Hopeless (01/23/2003) - Eyeball

 

War All the Time (09/1/6/2003) - Island

 

Ný Batterí from Hard to Get Volume 1: An Island Rarities Compilation (10/14/2003) - Island

 

A Hole in the World (acoustic) from Punk Goes Acoustic (10/21/2003) - Fearless

 

Live from the SoHo & Santa Monica Stores (11/11/2003) - Island

 

Live in Detroit - (2004) - Island

 

A City by the Light Divided (05/02/2006) – Island

 

Kill the House Lights (10/30/2007) - Victory

 

Thursday / Envy (11/04/2008) - Temporary Residence

 

Common Existence (02/17/2009) - Epitaph

 

Doves (2010)

 

No Devolución (04/12/2011) - Epitaph

 

Daytrotter Session (2011) - Daytrotter

 

Full Collapse (Live) (04/22/2022) – Velocity Records

 

War All the Time (Live) (06/30/2022) – Velocity Records

 

Application For Release From The Dream (2024)

 

White Bikes (2024)

 

Taking Inventory of a Frozen Lake (2025)

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u/Normal_Confusion1644 — 2 months ago

Is this normal?

I was seeing a psychiatrist weekly, slowly getting off one medication and onto another. We added an augmenter or whatever at one point. Next meeting we up that and then she says she won't be available for a few weeks. But what about our schedule? My mood is dipping and she told me the augmenter would work immediately. But I'm not noticing that. My paranoia is up, depression and anxiety through the roof. Like she just abandoned me. Is it normal though for this to happen? I'm not saying they can't go on trips but weeks and during the middle of a med adjustment feels cruel. Thanks.

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u/Normal_Confusion1644 — 2 months ago

Looking for Models - Central/South Jersey

Male photographer looking to meet up with models for photoshoots in the central and south jersey areas. Message if interested. I can share more details, social media, etc. Thanks.

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u/Normal_Confusion1644 — 2 months ago
▲ 1 r/lonely

Understimulated

I'm so understimulated from lack of human interaction. I'm trying to talk to folks at work say in the elevator or something but I just get looked at like I have six heads. Please talk with me. I'm willing to pay for company at this point and sadly I can afford to being a functional pos. Thanks.

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u/Normal_Confusion1644 — 2 months ago

Weekly Song Discussion - Porcelain

Beginning of a weekly thread going through each song in order from album to album. First song being Porcelain from Waiting.

The opening feels very reminiscint of how folks described and praised the band early on with dynamics (soft to loud to to soft, etc.) I won't cloud the top post too much but just wanted to express this before I forget. Discuss!

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u/Normal_Confusion1644 — 2 months ago

Weekly song and/or album discussion?

Getting back into this band and was wondering if folks on here would be interested in a weekly song discussion starting from Waiting and going chronological fast to an end (lol). Just a weekly discussion on each song and then when we reach the final track of an album we'll discuss that album as a whole? I think it could be fun and breathe some new life here and it would be interesting to hear the newer folk's takes.

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u/Normal_Confusion1644 — 2 months ago
▲ 2 r/lonely

Family is on vacation / working from home.

Also changing meds so I've been experiencing a large dip in my mood which I expected but it certainly isn't making it easier. I declined the vacation. I was invited but I can't handle much at the moment due to my mental health. And I dont normally work from home but firewall restrictions on the application I'm working make it so this week. I was nervous going into this week and I've handled it well but damn is it odd not talking to or seeing anyone. My therapist told me to try and find things to go to but my area is dead.

Is there somewhere I can go specifically to meet and talk to people in person? Does that exist anymore? I am feeling such an urge to be social (maybe new meds) and I can't fulfill it. It's just me. And it's been just me this past week. It's like that one thing I could really use I can't get. And I dont want to spend too much time on it because I can't control people. I can't make people want to be around me. I plan on asking my therapist if she can help me learn radical acceptance with loneliness. Any one have any luck with that?

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u/Normal_Confusion1644 — 3 months ago

Thursdizzle.net

Any boardies floating around on here? I frequented this site heavily when it was around when I was in high school 2004-2008 and beyond. Made some great connections, was introduced to a lot of new music, and just had a good time in general.

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u/Normal_Confusion1644 — 3 months ago
▲ 5 r/lonely

I'm so privileged but have zero friends.

I'm torn. I'm trying to be grateful. I have a good job (just got a $2 raise. 2 bucks! That's insanely good. Most are like 35 cents I'm told), I have money for a down-payment on a house and then some saved up, and the list goes on. But there's nobody to talk to. I have no friends. I'm not a saint but there's gotta be worse folks than I with friends. Maybe this is what separates me from others? In an era of financial struggle, etc. things really couldn't be any better realistically. But I have all this money saved because I'm functioning with depression. I make it and don't spend any additional income on anything but necessities. So my life the last decade has just been work. Which isn't a bad thing either though. I'm growing so tired of this disconnected world though. Its like we all complain about how disconnected we are and then go right back to it. Are we just holding onto the old world? I'm so lost and wish I had someone to talk to.

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u/Normal_Confusion1644 — 3 months ago
▲ 5 r/lonely

Lonliness crushing me today.

I start my day okay but hours in and not having anyone to talk to wears on me. I just want to go home. I feel so physically heavy. This sucks.

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u/Normal_Confusion1644 — 4 months ago